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October 07, 2009
McQ CBO Says Baucus Bill Won’t Add To Debt – But It Will Leave 16 Million Uninsured
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The Washington Post's "Capitol Briefing" breathlessly announces:

A health-care reform bill drafted by the Senate Finance Committee would expand health coverage to nearly 30 million Americans who currently lack insurance and would meet President Obama's goal of reducing the federal budget deficit by 2019, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

The bill would cost $829 billion over the next decade, but would more than offset that cost by slicing hundreds of billions from government health programs such as Medicare and by imposing a 40 percent excise tax on high-cost insurance policies starting in 2013.

All told, the package would slice $81 billion from projected budget deficits over the next 10 years, the CBO said, and continue to reduce deficits well into the future.
That, of course means:
And the CBO report lends a huge political boost to the Finance Committee's work: distinguishing it as the only one of five bills drafted by various congressional committees that meets every important test established by President Obama and key Democratic leaders.

-- It would cost less than $900 billion over the next decade;

-- It would vastly expand coverage; and

-- It would keep Obama's pledge that health reform will not increase budget deficits by "one dime" now or in the future.
Whooo hooo! Happy days are here again!

A couple of things to remember: In 1967, official estimates said Medicare would cost $12 billion in 1990. The actual price was $110 billion. And it and Medicare now have about 50 trillion in unfunded future obligations. Secondly, the reason it doesn't add to the deficit is it cuts Medicare and will force businesses to either pay an excise tax or drastically cut benefits for those who have what the elite have determined are "Cadillac" plans. Of course what that means is if you like your plan, you can keep it, but your no longer going to like your plan (because it could cost you up to 40% plus more to maintain that plan).

And then there's this: I thought the whole stated purpose of this "reform" was to ensure the uninsured were insured. Yet the CBO report says:
By 2019, CBO and JCT estimate, the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured would be reduced by about 29 million, leaving about 25 million nonelderly residents uninsured (about one-third of whom would be unauthorized immigrants).
So 16 million US citizens remain uninsured. But fear not - CBO has figured that into the equation as a revenue raiser:
... penalty payments by uninsured individuals, which would amount to $4 billion;
Not to mention you could be spending a year in jail as well.

And those unfair "Cadillac plans" will add to that revenue stream as well (except, apparently, if it is a union plan):
....penalty payments by employers whose workers received subsidies via the exchanges, which would total $23 billion;
And here's what to be really careful of when assessing this boondoggle that still leaves people uninsured (but does provide yet another law to put people in jail):
The proposed co-ops had very little effect on the estimates of total enrollment in the exchanges or federal costs because, as they are described in the specifications, they seem unlikely to establish a significant market presence in many areas of the country or to noticeably affect federal subsidy payments. As a result, CBO estimates that of the $6 billion in federal funds that would be made available, about $3 billion would be spent over the 2010–2019 period.
As the CBO once said on its initial scoring, this bill would have to run, unchanged, for 10 years for it to unfold, cost wise, as they're saying it will unfold. That means co-ops, not the public option.

If the public option is included, all the savings supposedly found in this bill go out the window and costs skyrocket. And Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid say that the final bill will have a public option.

[Crossposted at QandO]
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  • No need to "offset" a tax cut, the resulting economic activity is enough to deal with any loss in tax revenues. Looks pretty good otherwise.
  • “Small Bill” Proposal for Sensible Health-Care Reform
    To make health insurance more accessible, affordable, and portable — without threatening the quality of care or the preexisting insurance of millions of Americans:

    1. End the unfair tax on the uninsured (and self-insured), giving them a tax-break similar to that which is already available to those with employer-provided insurance. Provide refundable and advanceable tax-credits of $2,000 per person, up to $5,000 per family. LEAVE EMPLOYER-PROVIDED INSURANCE, ITS TAX-EXEMPT STATUS, AND THE REST OF THE TAX CODE, INTACT. (Increase in government spending: none. Average reduction in taxes: $34.5 billion/year (see * below), offset by using unallocated economic stimulus funds.)

    2. Allow Americans to buy insurance across state lines. Allow Americans to shop for coverage from coast to coast — whether from lower-mandate states at lower prices, or from higher-mandate (additional-coverage) states at higher prices. Allow plans bought in one state to be transported to another. (Increase in government spending: none.)

    3. Expand Americans’ ability to keep their insurance when they leave their job. COBRA allows former employees to pay the costs of their insurance premiums (including the employer’s former share) and thereby keep their insurance in effect, but only for 18 months. Expand COBRA by 12 months, allowing people to keep their insurance for up to 30 months if they have not yet secured a new job with an employer-sponsored plan. (Increase in government spending: none.)

    4. Allow lower premiums for healthier lifestyles. Existing federal regulations ban private companies from offering more than a 20 percent discount to those who eat and drink in moderation, exercise, or don’t smoke. Such regulations handcuff private efforts to reward healthier lifestyles and to thereby cut health costs — and they should be eliminated. (Increase in government spending: none.)

    5. Cut costs by preventing runaway malpractice lawsuits. Relieve doctors from having to practice defensive medicine, by capping punitive damages at $250,000 per provider and $750,000 total, while continuing to allow unlimited economic damages to compensate for financial loss. (Increase in government spending: none.)

    6. Provide further help for those who are uninsured and have expensive preexisting conditions, by increasing federal support for state-run high-risk pools. Thirty-four states already have pools to help those who have been denied affordable coverage because of prohibitively expensive preexisting conditions, and we should incentivize their establishment in all 50 states. (Federal (DSH) funds currently covering emergency-room care would gradually fund the pools, as reliance on emergency-room care is reduced. Increase in government spending: $15 billion in the first year, gradually dropping to $0.) (See ** below.)

    10-Year Scorecard
    Baucus Bill
    "Small Bill"
    Spending Increases
    $856 billion
    $75 billion
    Tax Increases
    $354 billion
    $0
    Tax Cuts
    $2 billion
    $345 billion*
    Increased Fines
    $47 billion
    $0
    % Americans Insured
    95%
    95% 20-Year Scorecard
    Baucus Bill
    "Small Bill"
    Spending Increases
    $2.9 trillion**
    $0.1 trillion
    Tax Increases
    $2.0 trillion**
    $0
    *All for the uninsured or self-insured

    **According to CBO projections
    Ten-year totals: $15 billion in increased spending in Year-1, gradually declining to $0 in Year-10; average of $34.5 billion per year in tax cuts — all for the uninsured or self-insured.

    *28 million Americans are uninsured (46 million minus 9 mil-lion non-citizens minus 9 million on Medicaid who said they were uninsured (Census)). An estimated 7 million have only self-purchased insurance and aren’t eligible for the self-employed tax-exemption, making 35 (28 + 7) million eligible. With an average tax-credit of $1,600/person, if initially 1/3 and eventually 3/5 of those eligible either already have insurance or buy it, the total tax-reduction would be $19-50 billion/year, and 95 percent of Americans would be insured by year-10. (If that percentage lowers, fewer tax-credits would be given.)

    **A federal survey cited by the CBO indicates that 1-1.5 million Americans are uninsured because of preexisting conditions. Safely assuming twice that many (2-3 million), each would get $5,000-$7,500, plus a tax credit of $2,000, for a total of $7,000-$9,500 per year in federal relief


    Cut and paste from teh Weekly Standard. The Republican version of health care reform.
  • Fact there are more right then left in the us but they couldn't pull it off.
    Fact they have no new ideas and it shows.
    Fact many many many on the right was against medicare when it was started.
    Fact very few if any would vote to end it now. (Political suicide)
    Fact when the public option is signed into law stick a fork in them they are done for the next 40-50 years.
    Fact it scares the shit out of them and they will turn to scorched earth to stop it. To stop their slide to the whigg party part two.

    Its like seeing the bully in school getting his ass handed to him by the school nerd. Everybody thinks the bully is the nerd now, but the bully.

    Stay tuned whigg party part two coming soon to a congress near you.
    Posted by youlieRepubs3
    2009-10-08 01:49:08


    Nixon would call you retarded but that is insulting people who are retarded.
  • With all the screen names you could pick you settle on DICK.


    Apparently reading fails you. Dick Nixon is what Nixon uses on the internet. It has been said, repeatedly, that my first name is Richard. People do call me Dick. And Nixon is either my last or middle name or my nickname, don't ask as you won't be told which.

    Beats the hell out of your original, and factually challenged, user name. Or at least theone you use now after being banned before.
  • Or is his hate speech is different because you side with him?
    Posted by youlieRepubs3
    2009-10-08 16:26:02

    Hate speech? Oh yeah, you leftist oppose free speech unless it fits your views. You come to this site, trolling, making bullshit statments then get all defensive when you get slapped down and proven full of shit. Then you f'n admit you are here again after being banned. Nixon has stepped in dog shit that was cleaner than what you are.
  • Posted by youlieRepubs3
    2009-10-08 17:02:29

    Big ol words from such a young troll. What was your old user name, let_it_be, blackspeak, theroadto60, or gayunemployedmexican?
  • lier


    Gee that hurts. What does that word mean, someone who lays around all day?
  • Im using the same screen name but adding a number after it after ban.

    Go Sherlock go you fail to impress me. Like you fail to impress your wife in bed.
    Posted by youlieRepubs3
    2009-10-08 16:32:04

    So sayeth we all.
  • Come back with something past the 4th grade level.

    Have fun with your search of Dick, Dick.
    Posted by youlieRepubs3
    2009-10-08 15:47:45

    You are the one who admitted to being gay a few weeks ago. Don't be so defensive about it. However, you do realize that it is a lifestyle choice? Don't you?

    As far as your mom giving change back from a ten, why should that make you angry? Unlike you, she does work for that money. Being a liberal, Nixon supposed you want a hand out and expect your mom to sit on that ass drawing a check.

    Sounds like you have problems there, my young padawan troll. Thanks for admitting you used to post here under another user name as well.
  • Well I guess that we can clearly see this leftist troll twit has nothing to offer but hate, bitterness, and insults and should be ignored by everyone as a result.
  • Very possibly.
    Posted by mightysamurai
    2009-10-08 13:09:07

    That may be giving him too much credit, pre-schooler comes to mind.
  • Are you a freakin' 3rd grader?


    Very possibly.
  • Guest
    wylie_e_coyote - that's because he's merely one of those DoJ bloggers who were discussed in a thread yesterday. He's not here to offer wisdom, or POV's or anything else. He's here to disrupt and agitate. And that doesn't take any facts at all.
  • wylie_e_coyote
    Posted by youlieRepubs3

    Are you a freakin' 3rd grader?

    Grow up - you didnt post one flippin' thing of any value to support you socialist medical holocost you adore so much.
  • Obamateur is also planning on amnestying a large cunk of illegal aliens so he can say the plan doesn't cover illegals.

    An Inconvenient Truth.
  • Mike_M
    "Stay tuned whigg party part two coming soon to a congress near you."

    I agree. If a large part of the GOP endorses slavery to big government by voting for Obamacare, they certainly will be abandoned by the base and become unelectable.
  • belacuse
    Fact there are more right then left in the us but they couldn't pull it off.

    Couldn't pull what off? The election? Sorry, but if you are trying to say we should have won because of Palin, well, the unfortunate fact is that no matter how you try to spin it with talks of average life expectancy, we still vote for the President, not the Vice. Not to mention the massive voter registration fraud by Acorn. Or the completely out of control one-sided state run media.
    Fact they have no new ideas and it shows.

    We have plenty of ideas. Here's one, don't force communism on America.
    Fact many many many on the right was against medicare when it was started.

    Yeah, because Medicare didn't turn out to be one of the largest drains on our economy, right?
    Fact very few if any would vote to end it now. (Political suicide)

    And this is exactly why we are fighting against Obama's healthcare - if it gets passed it will be enormously difficult to get rid of. Ask Canada about this.
    Fact when the public option is signed into law stick a fork in them they are done for the next 40-50 years.

    Correction, we are ALL done. Just becuase you are too ignorant to realize the inevitable outcome of socialized healthcare doesn't mean you won't be affected by it. It's pretty sad that even with all the empirical evidence from Britain, Canada, France, etc. you still think it will work here.
    Fact it scares the shit out of them and they will turn to scorched earth to stop it. To stop their slide to the whigg party part two.

    First, it's "Whig". Second, people with no clue about history should probably not bring it up.
  • Stay tuned whigg party part two coming soon to a congress near you.
    Posted by youlieRepubs3
    2009-10-08 01:49:08

    That explains the Democrats looking at gaining 30-40 seats in the House and Harry Reid looking strong in his re eelction. Oh wait, Nixon got that backwards.
  • Posted by youlieRepubs3
    2009-10-08 01:49:08

    Ah, Nixon favorite homosexual poster is here this morning. How are you my gay friend? Thank you for voting in that 17% unemployment rate, sliding dollar, increasing energy costs, and quadrupling the deficit POTUS of yours. Nixon sees your knowledge of electoral workings is only exceeded by the number of total strangers who have sex with nightly.

    And moderators or John, since Nixon unmaksed snohomish as hogground, will he be banned again? Nixon will email Hawkins about this sometime this morning. Did you all know hogground wife fucked Rush Limbaugh? Neither did Nixon til Hogground confessed that fact. Rush dumped her, thus explaining hoggrounds lies about Limbaugh.

    Hogground knows as much about elections as he does about the GOP in the State of Washington, another lie of his that was unmasked under his old user name. One of 7 he has used.
  • Mike_M
    What a crock. Max "Bullsh*t" Baucus wants to suck a trillion dollars out of health care in the form of spending cuts and taxes on existing insurance, and insure more people with the savings? What next, is he going to legislate a perpetual motion engine into existence?

    The ignorance and hubris of the Democrats is beyond dangerous. This bill will, by design or by unintended consequence, drastically reduce the quality of health care in this country. Well, everyone except for members of the Inner Party like Obama and Baucus.
  • youlieRepubs3
    Posted by snohomish
    2009-10-08 00:51:24

    They dont like facts. It scares them, They say they didnt vote for a 72 year old man (McCain) Because he was liberal lite or some crap like that. Even tho they had the biggest conservative since the cowboy actor (Palin) As the number 2 on the ticket. Average Life expectancy: 77.7 years in the us just doing the math Palin has a pretty good chance to just fall into the job. But thay make up reasons why she lost. I guess Obama/Biden was a better Option over Old man McCain/Palin Because that was the choice they had.

    Fact there are more right then left in the us but they couldn't pull it off.
    Fact they have no new ideas and it shows.
    Fact many many many on the right was against medicare when it was started.
    Fact very few if any would vote to end it now. (Political suicide)
    Fact when the public option is signed into law stick a fork in them they are done for the next 40-50 years.
    Fact it scares the shit out of them and they will turn to scorched earth to stop it. To stop their slide to the whigg party part two.

    Its like seeing the bully in school getting his ass handed to him by the school nerd. Everybody thinks the bully is the nerd now, but the bully.

    Stay tuned whigg party part two coming soon to a congress near you.
  • Shut up, hoggo. Nobody cares what you think.
  • Steve, you have to use bit.ly or tinyurl for your links to work on this site.
  • SomeOtherSteve
    Okay, it's time for another one of my messed up links. Now that the CBO posted numbers that the Democrats wanted to see, the bill will move out of the Senate Finance Committee. The facets of healthcare reform that scare conservatives the most won't make it into the Senate bill until reconciliation. Then it's too late.
  • wylie_e_coyote
    Here is the truth on the so-called "neutral" CBO numbers!

    The REAL COSTS will be TRILLIONS more - its simply hidden to people because its simply shifted from the government books to the PRIVATE SECTOR - its a hidden tax!

    People need to know they are being fooled!

    Of course this Bacus/Obamascam is “budget” neutral to the Government; still a fantasy of course since these costs are always low balled by the POLS – the real costs are pushed off to the private sector and hidden in your Higher Premiums! Look at what happened in MA with Rommneycare! Remember, Private Health Insurance and self-pay paitents get over billed due to the Feds rationing/underpayments of Medicare – this will on get worse under Obamacare!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/...

    That Will Raise Health Insurance Premiums On Many Americans. “The thinking behind the tax is that it would raise hundreds of millions of dollars while at the same time curbing health-care spending by leading insurers or employers to stop offering the costliest plans to avoid the tax, or passing the tax on to employees in the form of higher premiums, which might lead employees to seek cheaper plans.” (Chairman’s Mark, “America’s Healthy Future Act Of 2009,” Introduced 9/16/09; Alec MacGillis, “Ahead Of Obama’s AFL-CIO Appearance, Labor Officials Express Concern Over Excise Tax,” The Washington Post’s “Daily Dose” Blog, 9/15/09)

    We need to make sure our GOPers and the mushy D know we are on to this!

    They are lying to us and we KNOW our INSURANCE PREMIUM WILL SOAR DUE TO THIS HIDDEN TAX!
  • tblrk2006
    Wouldn't it be cheaper to just reform tort laws and reform health insurance regulation such as making it possible to sell across state lines?
    Posted by Christopher_Taylor
    2009-10-07 20:03:22


    Yes. And it would work too. But as we all know the whole point of this isnt to fix health insurance or health care....its to own a piece of every americans life.
  • wylie_e_coyote
    In case any of you need to be reminded, oh yeah – Obamacare will freakin get you killed early lol:

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjhmOGU0MD...

    1 trillion = we get to die earlier, poorer, and in alot more pain

    but at least some impersonal techonocratic death pannel will decide for me so I dont have to worry myself with such tough choices

    and they will still give me end of life counseling

    and I get to feel GOOD about myself since my illegal alien neighbors will continue to sponge off me for free care and the local teenagers abortion will be subsidized with my tax $$$$

    Fleece the young, kill off the Elderly early, bankrupt small business, screw the taxpayer - enrich Big Health Insurance, Big Companies, & Big Union - empower Washington POLs so we all have to go begging to them for hanouts for HC like they were Kings & Queens - yeah, sign on to Obamacare ye useful idiots!

    yeah, Obamacare is pimpin’ and hoein’ bro!
  • Wouldn't it be cheaper to just reform tort laws and reform health insurance regulation such as making it possible to sell across state lines?
  • wylie_e_coyote
    Democrats have a corrupt deal to enrich BIG HEALTH Insurance with the millions of new forced customers from the Unconstitutional Individual Mandate, billions in taxpayer subsides and a monoply market:


    "Insure Success? Feed The Donkey"

    Insurance Companies Team Up With Dems To Line Their Own Pockets At The Expense Of Middle-Class Americans

    OBAMA’S INDIVIDUAL MANDATE A GIVEAWAY FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES, BURDENSOME TAX FOR MIDDLE CLASS

    Obama’s Health Care Experiment Includes “Individual Mandate” That Taxes Middle-Class Families Who Can’t Afford Insurance. Joint Committee On Taxation Chief Of Staff Thomas Barthold: “Senator Grassley, the penalty proposed in the Chairman’s mark, is as you observed, it’s structured as a penalty excise tax, we have other penalty excise taxes in the internal revenue code ... We have not done a combined distribution analyses across income to specifically answer your question but to the extent that yes we think that some people would be subject to the penalty excise tax when everything shakes out we would expect that some would have incomes less than $200,000 dollars.” (George Stephanopoulos, “Mandate Or Tax? Grassley V. Baucus,” ABC News’s “George’s Bottom Line” Blog, 9/22/09)

    •Obama’s Assistant HHS Secretary Admits Individual Mandate Is “A Very Regressive Tax.” “The individual mandate offers new options, but it also introduces risks. The mandate is in many respects analogous to a tax. … [T]he mandate will act as a very regressive tax, penalizing uninsured people who genuinely cannot afford to buy coverage.” (Sherry A. Glied, “Universal Coverage One Head At A Time — The Risks And Benefits Of Individual Health Insurance Mandates,” New England Journal Of Medicine, 4/10/08)

    Insurance Companies Fighting For Higher Tax To Bring In New Customers, Generate Windfall Profits. “[i]nsurance companies are pushing back against changes to the latest Senate health-care bill that ease the penalties for Americans for don’t carry health insurance … Senators refining the legislation last week narrowed the scope of a new requirement that all Americans carry health insurance out of concern it penalized people who can’t afford to buy it … The changes mean the new mandate would apply to two million fewer people, largely those with lower incomes … Key industries bought into the measure -- and agreed to absorb cuts in reimbursements -- on the expectation that millions of new customers would be brought into the health-care system.” (Janet Adamy and Greg Hitt, “Insurers Fight Bid To Ease Penalties In Health Bill,” The Wall Street Journal, 10/6/09)

    No Wonder Obama Attacked Hillary Clinton Over This Tax During Campaign. "Senator Clinton believes the only way to achieve universal health care is to force everybody to purchase it ... and my belief is the reason that people don't have it is not because they don't want it, but because they can't afford it." (Michael Luo, "Check Point," The New York Times, 2/22/08)

    SO DON’T BELIEVE DEMS’ RHETORIC ON INSURANCE COMPANIES …

    Obama Says Government-Run Health Care Will Keep Insurance Companies Honest. “Now, I have no interest in putting insurance companies out of business … I just want to hold them accountable. And the insurance reforms that I’ve already mentioned would do just that. But an additional step we can take to keep insurance companies honest is by making a not-for-profit public option available in the insurance exchange.” (President Barack Obama, Remarks To A Joint Session Of Congress, U.S. Capitol, 9/9/09)

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) Calls Insurance Companies “Villans” “Of course they’ve been immoral all along in how they have treated people that they insure … they are the villains. They have been part of the problem in a major way.” (Richard Cowan, “Pelosi Lashes Out Against Insurance Companies,” Reuters, 7/30/09)

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) Says Government-Run Health Care “Must Include A Mechanism To Keep Insurers Honest, Create Competition …” (Alex Koppelman, “But What Kind Of Public Option Is Reid Promising?” , 10/2/09)

    BECAUSE INSURANCE COMPANIES POURING MONEY INTO DEMS’ COFFERS

    Senate Finance Committee Democrats And Their PACs Received At Least $4,106,814 In Contributions From The Health Insurance Industry In The 2008 Cycle. (Center For Responsive Politics Website,, Accessed 10/6/09)

    And They’ve Already Received At Least $3,275,796 In Contributions From The Health Insurance Industry For The 2010 Cycle. (Center For Responsive Politics Website,, Accessed 10/6/09)

    In 2008 Cycle, Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) And His Glacier PAC Received At Least $1,111,035 From The Health Insurance Industry. (Center for Responsive Politics Website,, Accessed 10/6/09)

    In 2010 Cycle So Far, Sen. Baucus And His Glacier PAC Have Received At Least $954,425 From The Health Insurance Industry. (Center for Responsive Politics Website,, Accessed 10/6/09)

    In 2008 Cycle, Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) And Her New Century PAC Received At Least $403,718 In Contributions From The Health Insurance Industry. (Center For Responsive Politics Website,, Accessed 10/6/09)

    In 2010 Cycle So Far, Sen. Lincoln Received At Least $217,900 In Contributions From The Health Insurance Industry. (Center For Responsive Politics Website, , Accessed 10/6/09)

    In 2008 Cycle, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) And His Impact PAC Received At Least $345,250 From The Health Insurance Industry. (Center For Responsive Politics Website, , Accessed 10/6/09)

    In 2010 Cycle So Far, Sen. Schumer And His Impact PAC Received At Least $254,000 From The Health Insurance Industry. (Center For Responsive Politics Website, Accessed 10/6/09)

    This is corruption - Big Government/Big Health Insurance/Democrats conspring to fleece the young, ration care to the elderly, close small businesses, and tax us out of exsistance!!!


    Well, guess who didn’t support AND viciously attacked supporters of Individual Mandates during last years Democratic primaries?


    I you said President Obama and VP Biden, give yourself an A!
  • wylie_e_coyote
    Contrary to popular opinion in the media, the Individual Mandate, not the so-called public option is the key to stopping Obamcare in its tracks. Stop the Individual Mandate and the whole bill will unravel for lack of funding and mandatory participation in the scheme!


    This is a very dangerous period because Nationalization will still occur even without an overt government run insurance plan like this "public option" provision everyone keeps fixating on - Wyden/Bennett and the Bacus bill are prime examples of this.


    Individual Mandates to buy private insurance sound like a “free market” solution and “individual responsibility” but in this context they are not – they are simply a front for a government run system. Many conservatives can be easily fooled by this faux “private” front (Mitt Romney was) .


    Here are the core elements what will be contained in the “health care reform compromise” after the so-called “public option” is in all likelihood dropped:


    (a) Federal Regulation aka HEALTH CZAR/DEATH PANELS


    (b) Employer/Individual Mandates aka NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE


    (c) Government Subsidies aka MIDDLE CLASS MEDICAL WELFARE


    With the Federal Government setting the rules, forcing everyone to participate, and is paying the bills for most of the middle class through subsidies how is this anything other than Nationalization?
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