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January 19, 2010
John Hawkins Quasi-Live Blogging The Brown/Coakley Race: We Win, They Lose!
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9:11: Fox has now called it for Brown. In other words, the Coakley campaign just drove into the drink at Chappaquiddick.

9:12: Howard Dean just blamed George Bush if Coakley loses. He also says it's CERTAINLY not Barack Obama's fault.

9:13: I have to admit, I was still a little nervous about this election going in. The thing that reassured me? When the Coakley campaign and the Democratic Party were fighting over who was responsible for losing the race while people were still voting.

9:14: Tonight, I am watching and enjoying The Rachel Maddow show. She's putting on a happy face, but...

9:22: Per Mary Katharine Ham on Twitter, Coakley has conceded.

9:31: Chris Matthews is a guest on Maddow now. Matthews thinks this was all about the deficit. Maddow thinks it was about the public correcting for the large Democratic majority. There's a grain of truth there, but they're ignoring the elephants in the room: Obama & socialized medicine.

9:32: Oh wow. Chris Matthews just admitted the CBO numbers for the health care bill are going to dramatically understate the cost.

9:34: I'm going to write a post on this tomorrow, but were I betting, I think the odds are that Brown's win will kill Obamacare.

9:40: Hilarious tweet from liberal film critic, Roger Ebert: "Massachusetts to Teddy: "F--k you." Ha, ha, ha!

9:42: The crowd at Scott Brown's headquarters is chanting, "Yes, we can" and "John Kerry's next!"

9:46: It wasn't even close enough for the Dems to try to steal it. So, how long do the Dems take to seat him and can Kirk vote in the interim? Republican legal eagles say Kirk is no longer eligible to vote after today. If so, there's no reason for Dems to drag their feet.

9:55: Via Twitter: @hambypCNN: Jim Webb: 'only be fair & prudent we suspend further votes on #hc legislation until Brown is seated."

10:13: "The problem is this we are spending almost a trillion dollars and folks are telling me I should vote yes and we will fix it later. You wouldn't buy a car for a trillion dollars and say yeah, it doesn't run but we will fix it later." -- Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.)

10:17: From the comments section: "What? No dancing Snoopy? I think this totally deserves it." -- Barph633 | Good point! If anything short of a Republican getting elected as President deserves a Dancing Snoopy, this does:



10:22: The Democrats got to try out their favored 2010 strategy in this race: They yelled "Teabaggers, Palin, and Bush" over and over. It failed.

10:26: Almost to a man, rank and file House Dems have said tonight they will NOT vote for the Senate bill. -- NBC's Luke Russert on Twitter

10:27 Fuller quote from Democratic Senator James Webb: "In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated."

10:31: This has got to be a grand moment for Scott Brown. A month ago, almost no one thought he had a chance in hell to win. Now, he's a rock stah!

10:33: Know what would be super hilarious? If Brown sent a special thanks out to Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, and the Tea Party movement.

10:33: Scott Brown says he talked to Kirk and he "has completed his work as a senator."

10:36: "This one's for you, Mary Jo." -- Rush Limbaugh

10:41: "Obama did for Coakley the same thing he did for Chicago's Olympic Bid." -- StanInTexas, from the comments section

10:43: Brown gives a shout out to John McCain, which reminds me that Brown will one day probably make conservatives want to claw their eyes out in frustration. Well, best not to think about that now.

10:45: From Twitter -- hahahaha!

"RT @jeisman: I feel like we lost Ted Kennedy all over again."

"gutito21 Turns out Ted Kennedy wasted his life"

"@Bobblespeak: Brown: "I will be a worthy succesor to the great Ted Kennedy. By crushing all that he stood for."

"dalmaer That is how you treat Ted Kennedy? Screw you Mass. I hope this causes a second curse on the Red Sox :)"

10:48: Scott Brown is dropping the bomb on socialized medicine -- which should remind people that it was the pivotal issue of the campaign and even in Massachusetts, health care is a huge loser despite the fact that Dems across the country have been using Ted Kennedy's death to sell it.

10:50: Libs across America must be choking on the USA! USA! USA! chants during the Brown victory speech.

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  • StanW
    Stan, I never said it was okay for anyone to do it, I just didn't know about the ONE writer for the Boston Globe magazine who said that.

    I mean, you are comparing apples to oranges here. Rush Limbaugh is the de facto head of your party.

    Posted by D-Vega 2010-01-21 00:22:14

    It is hilaruos how you do that Vega. You scream to high heaven about Rush using Mary Jo's name, you completely ignore the number of people on the left doing the same thing, and then blow it all off with "I never said it was OK"!

    Sorry, not buying it. If it is wrong to use Mary Jo's name for political purposes, then it is wrong. She does nto belong to the Left to use and abuse as you see fit. The quote I gave was one small bu egregious example of what was said about Mary Jo by the Left to lionize Kennedy in his death. A girl he left to die while the protected his legacy.

    But martin is right, all you have proven ONCE AGAIN is what a pathetic partisan hack you are and how you can run back to your Liberal masters and tell then that you stood up to Ruch Limbaugh on the Right Wing board.

    Good, little one. You did your duty well.

    De Facto head of our party? You seem to think that if you tell that lie often enough, it will become the truth. I wonder where you learned THAT trick?
  • Guest
    Rush Limbaugh is the de facto head of your party.
    Maybe in your mind that's what Rush is, but I don't think that's the case in reality, any more than either Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann are the de facto head of the Democratic Party or Larry King is the de facto head of the Dinosaur Party.

    Saying that Rush is the de facto leader of the Republican Party is really nothing more than hyperbole to try to make a point in a debate, and I think you know it is. Rush is an entertainer who's paid to attract an audience so that the advertisers who buy time on his show can flog their products to that audience. The same is true for Matthews, Olbermann, Hannity, and anyone else on teevee, radio or in print. They are all grist for the mill of capitalism - they supply the content that ultimately brings the potential customers in the figurative door. To elevate any of them to the status of actually exercising control over party policy, party decisions and party apparatus, is what I'd expect to hear from some hide-bound paranoid conspiracist, and frankly I really thought you were more together than that.

    Wait a second...NYC...liberal...outspoken...are you really Rosie O'Donnell going incognito?

    What is obvious is your strong dislike, bordering on hatred, for Rush. We all got that - several years ago when you first made the point.
    So I guess Rush Limbaugh is free to be an inconsiderate, pompous prick who has exploited this woman's death over and over and over again for his own political & ratings purposes then.
    Yep. That just about sums it up. Well, except the 'political' part, because most of us understand that Rush would rather drag his balls across a mile of broken glass and barbed wire than to actually commit to being a working politician.
  • D-Vega
    Stan, I never said it was okay for anyone to do it, I just didn't know about the ONE writer for the Boston Globe magazine who said that.

    I mean, you are comparing apples to oranges here. Rush Limbaugh is the de facto head of your party.

    +++

    Nixon, I'm no fan of Byrd. He should've been gone a long time ago. The KKK was/is a terrorist group.

    So I guess Rush Limbaugh is free to be an inconsiderate, pompous prick who has exploited this woman's death over and over and over again for his own political & ratings purposes then. Since Robert Byrd was once a KKK leader.
  • The same goes for Robert Byrd, the other go-to punchline when all else fails.


    Yeah, he never was a leader of a domestic terror group, was he Vega?
  • CoolCzech
    Libliever,

    I don't know about optimistic, but I get nompleasure from watching Obama crash and burn because he's going too far left. Healthcare was an existential threat to conservatives: an incredibly huge expansion, bound to cost far more than projected, blowing up an already obscene deficit. Worst of all: all understand that it would be irreversible. That's why the Dems are so hellbent on getting it done, come hell or highwater.

    Look at the ramifications:

    America transformed into a European Welfare State, with the sluggish growth, permanently high unemployment rate, and societal decay we can see in Europe.

    America would be on the road towards losing its superpower status, as entitlements eat up too many resources to sustain the military. Europe could do that, because we shielded them. But if America goes that way, who'll step into the breach?

    No, socialization would destroy America as the dynamic, optimistic, powerful symbol of democracy the world knows. And there would be no going back, ever.

    Now, that said, if Obama abandons the goal of socialism, of course no one wants him to have a failed presidency. I can understand he's liberal and will pursue some liberal goals I oppose. I can accept that, even as I argue against them. It's theexistential threat, the one to emmasculate America forever, I can't abide.
  • StanW
    Stan, don't try to turn tables.

    I am not silent when something bothers me. Are you really comparing some obscure writer for the Globe to Rush Limbaugh?

    Posted by D-Vega 2010-01-20 17:54:00

    I'm simply asking a question, Vega. Why is it OK for the Left to exploit Mary Jo, but not the Right? I know you are not silent when something bothers you. But you are silent on the Left's use of Mary Jo's name. So by your own admission, that does not bother you. Only when the Right uses her does it become an issue for you.

    You try to play yourself off as principled and above it all, but you are nothing but another pathetic liberal party hack.

    You want the Right to forget the past and stop remining you of it? That's rich. Why don't you tell Obama that Bush is not President any more and that HE needs to accept soem responsibility for the state this country is in.
  • D-Vega
    Stan, don't try to turn tables.

    I am not silent when something bothers me. Are you really comparing some obscure writer for the Globe to Rush Limbaugh?

    That is the technique, find one single liberal anywhere that has done something, and that means conservatives can do it constantly and its okay.

    He 'occasionally uses' her? That's called exploitation and he should be ashamed. And you can't assign something that happened 40 years ago to me and my positions now. It's only a ruse to demonize an idea.

    The same goes for Robert Byrd, the other go-to punchline when all else fails.

    It's the Alinsky technique, right? After all, conservatives talk more about Saul Alinsky than any leftist I've ever met in my entire life.
  • StanW
    I didn't say anyone using her to make a political point is appropriate, Stan.

    Posted by D-Vega 2010-01-20 17:36:51

    No, you were loud and vocal when someone on the Right uses her name, and abjectly silent when the Left does it. I even gave you an example above and an opportunity to denounce it. But you simply returned to even more vigorously slam Limbaugh.

    But thanks for the admission of your double standard. Limbaugh occasionally uses Mary Jo to point out how the Left will support whatever scum happens to have that little-d after their name. He does the same by bringing up Robert Byrd's KKK past. The Left could abuse her name "10,000 times tomorrow" and you would not bat an eye. But Limbaugh says it once and you are in indignant righteous mode.

    Typical.
  • D-Vega
    I didn't say anyone using her to make a political point is appropriate, Stan.

    But even if the left used it 10,000 times tomorrow, it would be dwarfed by the amount of times just Limbaugh has used it to exploit any issue under the sun. He should be ashamed that he doesn't have the dignity to show some class on a good day for conservatives. He still needs to stoop. Because that's who he is.
  • StanW
    Maybe you can explain how this Republican victory is "for Mary Jo"? In what way did this election bring peace to her, or celebrate her life or even bring her justice?
    Posted by D-Vega 2010-01-20 17:06:11

    So the Right using Mary Jo to make a political point is classless, but the Left using Mary Jo to make a political point is fine with you, Vega?

    Sounds like a double standard to me.
  • D-Vega
    One thing you can count on Rush Limbaugh for;

    Even in the face of victory, he still appeals to the least common denominator.
  • D-Vega
    Politically exploiting a women's death over 30 years ago after an election in MA that didn't have Ted Kennedy running (since he's dead) seems cheerworthy of you?

    One good thing about Kennedy's death is that the "Mary Jo Jingle" can't be used anymore as a punchline for conservative meanderings.

    Maybe you can explain how this Republican victory is "for Mary Jo"? In what way did this election bring peace to her, or celebrate her life or even bring her justice?
  • "This one's for you, Mary Jo"?

    Stay classy, Rush.
    Please explain how this is classless. Unless you think merely mentioning Mary Jo Kopachene when she must be forgotten somehow is wrong. Seriously, explain to us what was wrong with that statement. I cheered when I read it.
  • For one healthcare overhaul will flatline.
    Posted by libliever
    2010-01-20 09:32:02

    Hopefully not.
    Nixon is for sensible reform, such as tort reform, making insurance more accesible across state lines, fraud reduction, cost reductions due to unecessary bureaucracy, etc.

    Tax breaks for self employed and people who don't have insurance for their insurance premiums, expanding the deductions for medical expenses, and purging the government programs for benefits for all illegal aliens would help.

    A true bi partisan approach in the daylight would be a big improvement. Maybe Obama will reach across the aisla instead of shunning the right. But sadly, he won't. Another lie from Obama.
  • Guest
    Gopher? Wow that takes me back. It sounded so cool to be able to search document directories on other people's computer systems and download files. Too bad that's just about all gopher did. It always struck me funny that protocols and applets like gopher, finger, archie, and telnet, which were viewed as big technical advancements, all ended up as the little b*ast*rd step-siblings of http and the www.

    Tim Berners-Lee made all those other protocols and applets his protocol's b*tches.
  • StanW
    "This one's for you, Mary Jo"?

    Stay classy, Rush.
    Posted by D-Vega 2010-01-20 14:28:46

    Almost as classy as the Liberal columnist that said Mary Jo would have been proud of what Teddy had become and would have felt her sacrifice was worth it.

    Now THAT is classy!
  • D-Vega
    "This one's for you, Mary Jo"?

    Stay classy, Rush.
  • D-Vega
    I first started working with Gopher in 1991.
  • Guest
    Yeah, you could say I'm a veteran of Usenet. I started using BBSs back in the late seventies (300 baud modems were all the rage back then) but the long distance charges were steep. I was teaching part-time at the time at the local four-year college, (which was already part of Darpanet) and the IS (back before it became IT) guy invited me to explore this new-fangled medium called Usenet back sometime in the 1982-1983 timeframe. Having enjoyed BBSs, it seemed like a natural to me. So I got hold of B News and started cruising Usenet. So I was a fairly early adopter of Usenet and was around Usenet for all the big events there: the switch from UUCP to NNTP; the Great Renaming; the unruly imposition from beneath that is the alt.* hierarchy; the Great Flame War and all manner of invasions, trolls, flame wars and generally bad behaviours.

    You're right that it was hairy on Usenet, especially between '95 and 2000. By then I was the master of the killfile and so I never got too perturbed by trolls because I only ever saw their first post :-). But, I sure did learn how to toast someone's behind with class and style. Not that I'd consider bringing those skills out of retirement here...

    Speaking of killfiles, I've been slowly working on modifying a Greasemonkey script I found in order to to develop a more robust killfile for forums such as this one. The problem I'm having is that the script has to be different for each site I visit because they all have different CSS structures and different formatting. I'll get there someday and when I do, I'll make the script available to other Greasemonkey users. Our current crop of trolls could comment to their hearts content and I'd never ever know, let alone care.

    Interesting coincidence: Over New Year's weekend, I downloaded a copy of my favourite newsreader, XNews, and got a trial account at Giganews. I just wanted to see what's there these days. Murray, it ain't pretty at all. Spam as far as the eye can see and mostly screeching jackals flaming each other in the groups. It looks as though the only groups which are prospering are the ones from which people can illegally download movies, pr0n and music.

    Sad, 'cause it used to be such fun at one time.
  • MediumHeadBoy
    Gee, if I didn't know better I might think Jack Off was one of them there hoe-moe-phobes.
  • Guest
    "...alt.syntax.tactical..."

    So Murray - you're a veteran of Usenet, then?
  • Mike_M
    "There is NO sarcasm here at all but you guys almost sound optimistic provided Obama does more or less what you outlined."

    As you libs never shut up about: "you won the election". Nobody here expects to see anything in the way of a conservative agenda until at least 2011. But believe it or not, there is still some common ground for reform in many areas, and everybody knows the era of endless government spending is over.

    (One of the keys here is that the government has so overspent, it's shaken the faith of the rank and file liberal in its ability to be an everlasting font of giveaways and entitlements. You're going to destroy the dependency you worked so hard to create.)

    Politics is judo, and the Dems have overreached and are off balance. They're going to take a header unless they pull back. As I outlined above, there's a lot that both parties want. So Obama should concentrate on that, and get a little extra to advance his agenda. The current Obamacare Takeover and Tax Bill is a hopeless abomination, but if he actually tries to produce legislation that will help people I can live with a giveaway or two to the other side.

    Once we destroy you in 2012, then we can talk about running the liberal agenda off the table...but we'll still have to keep some moderation in mind or risk giving it right back.
  • libliever
    Posted by CoolCzech
    2010-01-20 09:42:44

    Posted by Mike_M
    2010-01-20 11:04:25

    There is NO sarcasm here at all but you guys almost sound optimistic provided Obama does more or less what you outlined.
    Am I reading you wrong?
  • Mike_M
    Posted by CoolCzech
    2010-01-20 09:42:44

    Not bad. I think overall Obama has to start treating Congress as a friendly yet competitive rival instead of marching lockstep with them like he has been.

    I would advise him to ride Congress hard on health care. Declare the current legislation to be a hopeless sell out to special interests, promise to veto it, and demand they go back to the drawing board. Concentrate on the national insurance exchange, Medicare cost reform, plan portability and tax breaks (things both parties want), and the GOP would probably eagerly hand him the public option (which the liberal base wants) in exchange.

    Even from a liberal point of view, he has to present some sort of endgame for intervention in the financial and automotive industries. He doesn't stand a shot at reelection unless unemployment is 8% or below by 2012, and nobody is going to start hiring until the government stops mucking around. Even if he pulls some crap like bonus taxes or executive pay caps, he has to just do it and announce an end to the bailouts and restrictions or the economy is going to remain weak and uncertain.
  • sluggo
    Well it didn't take too long for Jackoff to add his typical intelligent comment
  • StanW
    with his pants down with an underage gay lover.
    Posted by Jack Schite 2010-01-20 10:40:16

    Doubtful, Barney Frank does not share.
  • Jack Schite
    It's only a matter of time before Briwn falls in the time honored republican traditIon, with his pants down with an underage gay lover.
  • CoolCzech
    Obamacare is dead, dead, DEAD. Sen. Webb & Lieberman are saying as much, Barney Frank of all people said it explicitly.

    What's amazing is, I thought it was dead after VA & NJ... I just couldn't imagine that the Democrats would continue their Lemming Lock-Step March Over the Cliff, and yet against all reason they did. Well, "Ted Kennedy's Seat" is apparantly the first one to go over that edge.

    Now, I happen to think that losing the supermajority is probably the best thing to happen Obama in 12 months. He now has all the excuse he needs to get away from the hyper-liberal agenda that has the entire nation in open rebellion: Sovietcare, Crap&Trade, Card Check. All of these things are political poison, and pursuing them any further guarantees Barak will be a one-term wonder. His face might make it to a coin or bank note one day, for skin tone’s sake, but he would be remembered as the ultimate mediocrity – and frankly, be an impediment to any other black guy being elected President again for a long, long time.

    If I were his advisor, I would say:

    1. Shelve Obamacare for now; quietly approach the Republican leadership regarding what they WOULD support. I suspect that if he had added tort reform and insurance deregulation to the mix, he would have easily gotten the small handful of Republican votes he would have needed to pass healthcare reform months ago. But NOW he also needs to ditch the personal mandate, and the “panels” with irrevocable powers to make fundamental healthcare decisions for us.
    2. Just forget Cap & Trade. If he just can’t help himself, but MUST damage our economy to limit supposedly harmful carbon emissions, I suppose using the EPA is his best route.
    3. Forget Card Check. It’s dead, and going nowhere.
    4. Try really, really hard to find some other issue – one that even Republicans can get behind – to supplant healthcare as his “signature” issue. I suppose some sort of immigration reform, but done in a way that doesn’t include amnesty because that just fires up the Republican base/tea partiers all over again.
    5. Whatever future legislation he pushes, HE needs to take ownership of, from the get to: HE needs to propose a model bill, THE bill – not just say he wants a bill, any bill, on the issue and allow Pelosi to write it for him.

    Is Obama constitutionally capable of actually doing any of this? I doubt it. A leopard can't change its spots. I would bet money thathis destiny is indeed to be a failed one-termer, albeit one always fondly remembered for having been "the first."
  • libliever
    Posted by Christopher_Taylor
    2010-01-20 00:43:23

    Brown the new black, redlining a democrat out of deep blue MA, has got to smart.
    I think the ramifications of this will be profound.
    For one healthcare overhaul will flatline.
  • MediumHeadBoy
    Hmm... no Jack Off or Cretins Cleese. I suppose it's too much to hope that they both went and offed themselves, huh?
  • RtWingNtCase
    I will now happily shout to the world that I was wrong. Pass the crow and get out the mea culpa signs. I wanted to get excited but thought there was no way in hell that a Republican could win in MA, not even in this disastrous electoral year for them. Basically, I didn't want to get my hopes up, only to see them get crushed.

    I was galactically wrong, and others here were right. Only a rare few times in my life have I ever been so happy not to be right.

    Now let's not get cocky - we need to take it back all the way to November and get enough votes to really muddle up the works. Then start getting prepped for 2012 and President Palin(or Jindal, or Pawlenty, or take-your-pick).

    Our own arrogance cost us in 2006 and 2008, as well as getting away from conservative principles. Let's not make that mistake again.
  • Well I don't really call that a win for conservatives, but it is a loss for the left and the Democrats. They can still pass the Government Health Care Takeover Act of 2010, but there's a distinct possibility after this that the shaky Democrats who signed on will back away now, having seen a 100% guaranteed win for them go to the Republicans because the people are so angry.
  • Rappin'
    Three alarms... Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts. This is the BEGINNING! We have embarked on a journey which will culminate in a return to the Constitution as written. Enumerated powers, what a concept. Secure the borders, tax us fairly, allow us our freedom, and we will surpass every nation on earth... Again! As for the rest of government's paternalism, individuals are preeminent in this nation. If I'm on a hill and government is in a valley... What does that make government? Below me.
  • Wow.. did Ezra Klein just say this was lose/lose for the Democrats?

    I think he just implied that if they go through and push this ObamaCare bill, they're going to have a pissed off electorate come November. If they don't pass this bill, they're going to be noted for their "failure" to get any major legislation through.
  • FranklinR
    Chris Matthews isn't feeling that tingle up his leg now ...

    he's feeling pee going down!
  • RWNReader2
    Obama is not smart enough to go the Clinton route.


    Yuval Levin's comment in the Corner summed it up best:

    It is a mark of the degree of political malpractice the Democrats have been guilty of over the past year, of the degree of their overreach and recklessness, that being left with 59 senators—a huge majority by any measure, and the same majority they had when Obama was inaugurated a year ago—is now somehow enough to make it seem as though they are powerless and is likely to kill the core (and almost the entirety) of their domestic agenda, and leave them rudderless and reeling.

    They are of course not in fact powerless at all. But they have adopted an agenda that only a supermajority could pass (if that, even a supermajority couldn’t pass cap and trade), and with every indication of public opposition have only intensified their determination to pursue it, putting themselves on the wrong side of independent voters while persuading themselves that people would come around because this health care bill is something liberals have wanted for three generations. They have made it impossible for themselves to change course without a massive loss of face and of political capital. But however costly, that change will now need to come. You have to wonder if the people responsible for setting this course—and especially Rahm Emanuel and the House and Senate leadership—will still be standing when it’s all done with.
  • Bildo
    Now this was a true Boston Tea Party. Gentlemen, tomorrow is going to be a good day.
  • Chokeley was done with or without Obama. The woman is an empty pantsuit. The only reasons to vote for her were sexism, partisan politics, gullibility and blind ignorance.
  • Mike_M
    "Obama did for Coakley the same thing he did for Chicago's Olympic Bid."

    And Craig Deeds in Virginia. He's become electoral poison, even in states that voted for him.
  • Time to pour it one. And get ready for the Administration to ratchet up their personal attacks on Sarah Palin, and every other conservative. Also, look for a massive increase in moby activity on the right side of the blogosphere starting shortly.

    Racism accusations for all.

    And watch Reid and Pelosi play the system and pass a plan with no other vote. November will be a bloodbath for the left if they do so. Chappaquiddick care will be a very heavy stone for every Democrat to carry in their campaigns this fall.

    Time to give your money and your time to Conservative candidates and groups.
  • Bill_Dalasio
    To our Democratic readers:

    Don't worry. This isn't in the least bit a sign of things to come in the midterms. Coakley ran a terrible campaign. The voters were angry with George W. Bush. The Democrats will be just fine if they stay the course. They should just keep doing the same things they've been doing and they'll be sure to keep their majorities.

    Wait. No. The reason Brown won was because liberal voters were angry that the administration hasn't been liberal enough. The administration and Congress should tack left. They should go with the left-wing plans, no matter how badly it polls.

    /hoping to regain Congress in November
  • StanW
    Obama did for Coakley the same thing he did for Chicago's Olympic Bid.

    And I do not think this election will have any effect on the arrogance of Reid and Pelosi.
  • mr2trucker
    Obama is not smart enough to go the Clinton route.
  • Mike_M
    Time for Obama to decide whether he becomes Jimmy Carter (a totally worthless one-term loser) or Bill Clinton (compromising his way to a positive approval rating and a shot at a second term). This election proves his aggressive liberal agenda is dead in the water.

    This was a coup to be certain, but Obama and the Dems are still in charge and the damage they've done has yet to be repaired. Maybe this stops the bleeding for a while, but until they either introduce positive legislation or leave office we're still $12 trillion in debt, GM is still a nationalized company, and the unemployment rate is still double digits.

    Oh yeah, and screw you Harry Reid.
  • D-Vega
    I wouldn't go that far, safari. It's a huge win, but don't start s____ing each others' d____ just yet.
  • D-Vega
    Congrats and good luck to Brown.
  • Safari_Man
    This is a political earthquake -- an 8.9 on the Richter scale. This time, the things that trapped in the rubble are the Marxist policies and Fascist control freaks of the statists in DC.
  • StanW
    Where are all of our trolls? They seem to be missing...
    Posted by mr2trucker 2010-01-19 21:55:39

    They are whining and crying and cursing every person to the right of Dan Rather for this loss. They think their world is coming to an end.

    And tomorrow, when they dare speak of this, they will call it a big meaningless nothing and go right back to singing the praises of ObamaCare and AGW.
  • BROWN AND DEM EXCUSES

    Okay, the Republican stomped the socialist party gal into the ground in the state of Kennedy, Frank and Kerry. How will the demo-socialists react? How will Obama react?
    If history is an indication Obama will be mad and the rest will simply make up (talking point) excuses. Here are some excuses heard Monday. “Voters are mad at the previous administration…Coakley ran a sorry campaign…Obama came in too late”, yada, yada, yada.
    What they will NOT admit is the reality that voters rejected Obama-ism, they rejected 4x the debt, they rejected 2x the jobless, they rejected gov-meant HC, they rejected citizen rights for terrorists, they rejected the transparency lie, they rejected the daily arrogance of the Obama hacks and the Reid-Pelosi attitude. Maybe not every voter rejected all of these but the sum total was fatal.
    History also teaches us (or should) that when voters see the ugly terrifying face of arrogant secular socialism the demo-socialists start losing at the polls. Carter left a bitter failure in denial. Clinton had a Republican congress plus Morris to save his economy and 2nd term.
    What you will NOT hear is the socialists admitting any of the above rejections. Its always somebody else that “made them lose”.
    Its never the tax and spend wild-eyed vote-buying antics they love so much. Sadly, they have 3 more years to create excuses while ignoring “we the people”.
    http://conservablogs.com/theconservative
  • William Teach
    There are going to be quite a few call outs from work tomorrow among the Left due to world class binge drinking tonight.
  • mr2trucker
    Where are all of our trolls? They seem to be missing...
  • CoolCzech
    9:32: Oh wow. Chris Matthews just admitted the CBO numbers for the health care bill are going to dramatically understate the cost.

    And yet and never said a word that his network didn't report it; indeed he supported it ANYWAY.

    Unpatriotic, duplicitous POS.
  • CoolCzech
    So America will remain America, after all.

    Not some quasi-European abomination. Take THAT, Liberal Bitches!!
  • William Teach
    I had trouble finding a good animated Snoopy dancing, but, how bout a video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQX2B67KL4

    Or a Calvin and Hobbes dancing? http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/wteach/ba...
  • i flipped over to MSNBC, just to see... and you could just see Maddow wanting to go hug Coakley and say "I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I really tried to get them to vote for you!"
  • William Teach
    Carl Cameron from Fox News, hanging at the Brown campaign, says Coakley called Brown to concede. Woopeeeeeeeee!

    How long till she un-concedes and wants recounts and claims fraud and stuff? Am I being uncharitable?
  • Barph633
    What? No dancing Snoopy? I think this totally deserves it.
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