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February 09, 2010
Melissa Clouthier Pro-Life Groups In Wisconsin Illegally Investigated By Government And Police
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Remember when Janet Napolitano included Pro-Life groups in her terrorist lists? Yeah, well, looks like her talk resulted in illegal government action. From Lifenews:

In response to an open records request by the Alliance Defense Fund and Pro-Life Wisconsin, the Middleton Police Department and the Wisconsin Department of Justice, along with the Department of Homeland Security all refused on February 4 to release copies of the threat assessment.

Pro-Life Wisconsin officials told LifeNews.com that the assessment was "inappropriately shared" and should never have targeted pro-life groups.

“The majority of Americans identify themselves as pro-life, and the Middleton Police Department has shown they are out of touch with this peaceful majority,” said Peggy Hamill, state director of the pro-life group. “Pro-lifers are not a minority of the population, nor are they second-class citizens. We refuse to let our First Amendment rights be silenced.”

A few months later in 2009, the Department of Homeland Security’s Office for Civil Rights concluded the investigation was an improper use of department resources.

The conclusion said the department inappropriately directed against activities protected by the First Amendment, in which law enforcement inappropriately engaged in “the collection, retention and dissemination of U.S. person information regarding protest groups which posed no threat to homeland security and… violated [DHS] Guidelines.”

Hamill said DHS destroyed its copies of the report, but the Middleton Police Department retained its copy.

In January 2010 the Alliance Defense Fund, on behalf of Wisconsin pro-life advocates, asked the Middleton Police Department for a copy of the report pursuant to Wisconsin’s open records laws.

The Middleton Police Department refused to disclose the report and further said that the DOJ similarly refused to authorize disclosure of the report, despite the fact that DHS had already determined that the report was an improper investigation of freedom of speech activities.

“This move by DHS illustrates the Obama administration’s goal of silencing pro-lifers. It is disturbing that a local police department has apparently tapped into the security apparatus of the federal government to potentially obstruct free speech,” Hamill concluded.

“Last year, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano unjustly included pro-lifers in a report on domestic terrorism, and here we see her words in action," she said.

It's almost like an enemies list, isn't it?
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  • What possible situation would an abortion save the life of a mother. Please, give us the medical situation in which an abortion is required to save the mother's life. One.
  • Crimsonfella
    Conservatives stand up for life and defend the life of an innocent boy/girl in its mothers womb.Liberals stand up for and defend islamic terrorists who attacked our country on 911. Which team are you on?
  • I have no problem with abortion when saving the life of a mother, do you?
    Posted by whats_up
    2010-02-09 16:49:52

    What about the 98% of abortions that are not to safe the life of the mother, or due to rape or incest. You are all for abortion as a form of birth control, you sockpuppet.
  • StanW
    Posted by whats_up 2010-02-09 16:49:52

    Proof or apologize, asshole!
  • whats_up
    So you didn't read the UN document that proves that abortion is legal in the Phillipines in the case of saving the mothers life.

    Posted by StanInTexas
    2010-02-09 16:41:58

    Kind of hard to read an article if you cant link it right. Also you make that sound like some kind of gotcha moment. I have no problem with abortion when saving the life of a mother, do you?
  • whats_up
    I never said they did, crthns. Why do you lie so much.

    Really?


    Yes, I did. And I would not have gone to the stretch of using that case as a precedent, but the Philippine Supreme Court apparently did.

    Posted by StanInTexas
    2010-02-09 16:01:09

    Yep you did say that apparently the Philippine Supreme Court used this case as a precedent, why do you feel the need to lie?
  • StanW
    I wasnt aware that you were an expert on the Philippine Supreme Court, since you are, perhaps you can show us the ruling where they cite that case as precedent since you said that they did.
    Posted by whats_up 2010-02-09 16:31:11

    I never said they did, crthns. Why do you lie so much.

    So you didn't read the UN document that proves that abortion is legal in the Phillipines in the case of saving the mothers life.

    PUSSY!
  • whats_up
    Yes, I did. And I would not have gone to the stretch of using that case as a precedent, but the Philippine Supreme Court apparently did.

    Posted by StanInTexas
    2010-02-09 16:01:09

    I wasnt aware that you were an expert on the Philippine Supreme Court, since you are, perhaps you can show us the ruling where they cite that case as precedent since you said that they did.
  • StanW
    I have read the decision, have you? There is no precedent set with that case, none whatsoever.
    Posted by whats_up 2010-02-09 15:34:42

    Yes, I did. And I would not have gone to the stretch of using that case as a precedent, but the Philippine Supreme Court apparently did.

    Did you read the UN document on abortion in the Philippines, the one I sited that proved what a liar you are?

    Yeah, I didn't think so!
  • whats_up
    Mike said that case was the precedent, crthns. Reading is fundamental.

    Posted by StanInTexas
    2010-02-09 13:13:02

    I have read the decision, have you? There is no precedent set with that case, none whatsoever.
  • Do you deal in fiction alot?
    Posted by whats_up
    2010-02-09 13:01:42

    David Duke. Bush 2004. Ring a bell, crthns?
  • Guest
    "The Anti-Choice crowd as a whole are terrorists, arsonists, murderers, resort to invasion of privacy, threats, etc. and take the law into their own hands."

    So the best responce you could come up with was to smear the majority of Americans who think abortion is morally wrong. What a tolerant and progressive position for you to take.

    What a joke your ability to actually conduct a debate on any issue is. All dogma, all the time.
  • StanW
    That case does nothing of the sort, in fact it doesnt even mention saving the life of the mother. Do you deal in fiction alot?
    Posted by whats_up 2010-02-09 13:01:42

    Mike said that case was the precedent, crthns. Reading is fundamental.

    Read what the UN has to say about abortion in the Philippines, crthns. Here is the money quote... "Although the Penal Code does not list specific exceptions to the general prohibition on abortion, under the general criminal law principles of necessity as set forth in article 11(4) of the Code, an abortion may be legally performed to save the pregnant woman’s life."
    www.un.org/esa/population/publications/abortion...
  • Kingfisher
    The Anti-Choice crowd as a whole are terrorists, arsonists, murderers, resort to invasion of privacy, threats, etc. and take the law into their own hands.
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll
    2010-02-09 10:25:36


    Wow, talk about desperation to invoke anger. The problem is, we don't respect you so your little tirade is pointless.

    You mean Focus on the Family leaking out information and then watering down the ad so it can act like a victim?
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2010-02-09 10:42:33


    The "story" was started by NOW and Planned Parenthood as a pathetic means of destroying Mrs. Tebow's credibility. The "source" of the story has been liked to NOW which explains why you refuse to provide it. This so-called leak has been discredited which proves, once again, that you get your talking points from the far left.
  • whats_up
    Posted by Mike_M
    2010-02-09 12:34:26

    Mike,

    That case does nothing of the sort, in fact it doesnt even mention saving the life of the mother. Do you deal in fiction alot?
  • Mike_M
    "Abortion is not legal for ANY reason in the Philippines. Try again."

    Wrong again, Captain Wikipedia. Abortion is legal for the purposes of saving the life of the mother, with the precedent set by the 1961 Geluz v. CA Philippine Supreme Court decision.

    Since Tim Tebow is not 49 years old, he could have been legally aborted. I'm sure this intrudes on your liberal worldview that someone who could have aborted didn't, but it does happen from time to time.
  • StanW
    Abortion is not legal for ANY reason in the Philippines. Try again.
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2010-02-09 12:14:39

    I read the story and got the information from Mrs. Tebow. If you have any proof that abortions were illegal in all cases in the Philippines the year Tim was born, feel free to post it. Otherwise, I am going to believe a fine Christian missionary that says her doctor at the time gave her the option to abort and she refused.
  • StanW
    They get around it saying the doctor claimed it was cancer or 'fetal tissue' which would say more the the competency of the doctor than to any abortion issue.
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2010-02-09 10:58:46

    According to the actual story, Mrs. Tebow's life was in jeopardy so an abortion WAS a viable option. She CHOSE not to exercise the option, much to the consternation of the inaccurately named Pro-Choice crowd.

    And as far as the ad goes, all that was said was it was an ad by Focus on the Family and it dealt with the TeBow's decision. It was NOW and the rest that spun it out of control as a threat to Row v Wade. The Pro-Death groups knew it did not prepesent their agenda 1000%, so they tried to smear it. They and you got played, Bobbit. And their and your agend has been exposed for the hate filled lie that it is.

    And it just pisses you off!
  • Mike_M
    "Still waiting on you to provide proof of that Robert."

    Hey let's assume it is true. I find it much funnier that the abortion crowd got played for fools by James Dobson.

    NOW and the pro-abortion groups look like absolute idiots in the wake of this...not to mention hyper-reactionary zealots and death cultists.
  • Realpolitik
    have no problem with murdering children who've done nothing to deserve it.
    Posted by MediumHeadBoy
    2010-02-09 10:34:25

    There are laws in place to punish those who murder children. Let the law take its course.
  • StanW
    You mean Focus on the Family leaking out information and then watering down the ad so it can act like a victim?
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2010-02-09 10:42:33

    Still waiting on you to provide proof of that Robert. But yes, an ad about a woman making a CHOICE in her pregnancy was attacked and demonized by the inaccurately named pro-choice side of the debate, therby exposing them for the liars they are.

    And yes, they are murderers as well.
  • The Anti-Choice crowd as a whole are terrorists, arsonists, murderers, resort to invasion of privacy, threats, etc. and take the law into their own hands.
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll
    2010-02-09 10:25:36

    So the pro choice people support infanticide and murder by your definition.
  • StanW
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2010-02-09 10:25:36

    I may have been a bit hasty, Robert. After the pro-abortion activities concerning the Tebow ad during the SuperBowl this year, it is that side of the debate that has shown itself to be fully Anti-Choice. That being the case, I accept your admission of the crimes of the Left. Now, what are you going to do about it?
  • DCS
    Anti-Choice? How about we give the child in the womb a choice you murdering bastard!
  • MediumHeadBoy
    BTW, Ingertroll, you seem to have forgotten that Stalin was a leftist.
  • MediumHeadBoy
    The Anti-Choice crowd as a whole are terrorists, arsonists, murderers, resort to invasion of privacy, threats, etc. and take the law into their own hands.

    What's so terrible about being murderers? You Anti-Life (hey, you chose the terminology, asshat) douches have no problem with murdering children who've done nothing to deserve it.
  • StanW
    The Anti-Choice crowd as a whole are terrorists, arsonists, murderers, resort to invasion of privacy, threats, etc. and take the law into their own hands.
    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2010-02-09 10:25:36

    What abject BULLSHIT! Are lies the only way you can make a point, Bob?
  • Guest
    So, Bobby - you're pointing out that the pro-life movement has had its share of bad actors. OK. But it seems to me that one can find bad actors in virtually every organisation regardless of their affiliation with any cause, '-ism' or belief. So isn't that just ideological posturing on your part?

    What's probably more to the point, Bobby, is discussing how 'wrong-footed' the local police department got on this issue that even Big Sis's shop slapped their motives down.

    Oh, wait. I see the problem. That issue is way too substantive for you. You always go for the attempted glib one-liners, don't you.
  • Mike_M
    Pretty sad when Obama has to use the Department of Homeland Security to try and prop up his failing platform. Criticize the liberal position and they'll sic the IRS and any other number of Federal agencies on you to shut you up.

    I've actually considered the wisdom of continuing to openly criticize Obama on an open internet forum, but Janet Incompetano and pals are so damn stupid they probably can't figure out how to trace an IP address.
  • William Ayers. Che. Karl Marx. Lenin. Mao.

    Thanks for playing Robert.
  • DCS
    Face it R_I, the right deals with their nutjobs by locking them up and standing behind the law.

    The left makes idols out of them and winds up standing knee deep in bodies.
  • DCS
    Adolph Hitler

    Gee, I wonder which ideology has the higher body count.
  • DCS
    Joseph Stalin
  • DCS
    Pol Pot
  • Nothing like a good coverup by the most transparent Administration ever to start the day off. Waiting on the liberals here to condemn this act by DHS. Also waiting on the "Blame Bush, Patriot Act, Dick Cheney Halliburton!!!11" items as well. Thats you whats_up aka crthns.
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