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Obama’s Limp-Wristed Response To The Bloodshed In Libya

Written By : John Hawkins

Gadhafi is a monster who richly deserves to be overthrown by the people of Libya. But, what comes after Gadhafi? That’s unknown. It could be anything from a democracy, to a theocracy, to another dictatorship, to a civil war. There’s a huge leadership void in that country and it’s hard to know who or what will end up filling the gap.

Speaking of leadership, as per usual, you’re not going to find any if you’re looking to the White House. After dragging his feet, Obama finally got around to spewing out a pile of nearly meaningless mush yesterday.

“The suffering and bloodshed is outrageous and it is unacceptable, so are threats and orders to shoot peaceful protesters,” Obama said in his first televised remarks on the situation in Libya. “These actions violate international norms and every standard of common decency. This violence must stop.”

The president said the Libyan government “has a strong responsibility to refrain from violence” and that it must be held accountable, but he stopped short of placing the blame on Gadhafi, Libya’s eccentric dictator who has ruled for 42 years.

Obama said his staff will work with the international community to discuss the volatile situation and the administration is “doing everything we can to protect American citizens,” calling it his “highest priority.”

“The suffering and bloodshed is outrageous and it is unacceptable. So are threats and orders to shoot peaceful protesters,” Obama said in his first public comments on the violence in Libya.

He did not directly criticize Gaddafi and he stopped short of backing sanctions against the oil-producing North African country.

…Obama said he had ordered his national security team to prepare the full range of options for dealing with the crisis.

“It is imperative that the nations and peoples of the world speak with one voice,” he said.

Oh wow, the violence violates “international norms.” Oh, noes! Also, how important is it that the “peoples of the world speak with one voice?” Who really cares what Belgium thinks about what’s going on in Libya?

With such big events afoot in the Middle East right now, it’s tragic that we have such a small man in the White House to deal with what’s happening.

PS: Doesn’t Obama’s response remind you of the Hans Blix, Kim Jong Il conversation from Team America: World Police?

Kim Jong Il: Hans Brix? Oh no! Oh, herro. Great to see you again, Hans!
Hans Blix: Mr. Il, I was supposed to be allowed to inspect your palace today, but your guards won’t let me enter certain areas.
Kim Jong Il: Hans, Hans, Hans! We’ve been frew this a dozen times. I don’t have any weapons of mass destwuction, OK Hans?
Hans Blix: Then let me look around, so I can ease the UN’s collective mind. I’m sorry, but the UN must be firm with you. Let me in, or else.
Kim Jong Il: Or else what?
Hans Blix: Or else we will be very angry with you… and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.
Kim Jong Il: OK, Hans. I’ll show you. Stand to your reft.
Hans Blix: [Moves to the left]
Kim Jong Il: A rittle more.
Hans Blix: [Moves to the left again]
Kim Jong Il: Good.
[Opens up trap, Hans falls in]

PS #2: If Gadhafi somehow survives this, what do you think the odds are that Obama will bow to him? Admittedly, it seems unlikely, but you shouldn’t underestimate how powerful Barack Obama’s unmanly desire to bow to foreign leaders may be either.

Anonymous

“Obama said his staff will work with the international community to discuss the volatile situation and the administration is “doing everything we can to protect American citizens,” calling it his “highest priority.” ”

Yah? Really? Everything possible?
Have you tasked a Carrier Battle Group with getting trapped Americans out?
Has the nearest Marine Expeditionary Unit been alerted and sent in?
Are Force Recon, the SEALs, Airborne, or the Rangers on the ground collecting American citizens for extraction?

Then clearly you are NOT doing EVERYTHING possible to protect American citizens.

Anonymous

wish I could ‘like’ twice!

Anonymous

For some reason, Obama finds comfort in fumbling around the international stage. Wonder how he’ll deal with $4 a gallon gas in a few weeks and his Administration opposing development of our own oil reserves.

Anonymous

He’ll probably go for $5. Many liberals, including members of Obama’s administration have openly expressed their desire to see gas prices rise to extreme levels. I take them at their word.

N0nesuch

Good thing when the Republicans had control of the House, Senate and White Houe they made it easy for the oil companies to drill all those new well or we would be in trouble now… hey wait a minute…

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Yeah it is Bush did lift the moratorium on off shore drilling and Gas prices fell to bad it was so late in his term. But then Obama did nothing to allow more drilling and even killed much of it and gas is going through the roof.

Anonymous

Don’t forget it was the Democrats that blocked drilling in ANWR too.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Yeah it is Bush did lift the moratorium on off shore drilling and Gas prices fell to bad it was so late in his term. But then Obama did nothing to allow more drilling and even killed much of it and gas is going through the roof.
Anonymous

EVERY time this subject comes up everybody wants to try to place all the blame on the “other” side.

That’s complete bull. “BOTH” sides have been impediments in the process, but, that being said, it is liberals that have been the bigger impediment over all. As slow as the Republicans have been moving to get more exploration, more drilling of existing known reserves, and more refineries up (or any other power plant in general) it has been the liberal enviro-whackadoodlles that have lined up in droves to block, impede and out right sue to keep the projects from getting off the ground.

They keep whining. “this does nothing NOW, it only helps ten years down the road” as if that means we shouldn’t build the power plant or refinery.

Well you know what I’ve heard that rant from liberals for OVER TWENTY YEARS NOW. So I have to wonder how much better off we’d be if we had stuffed the liberals down a well back in the Eighties and just explored, drilled, and built what we needed over the years.

I think the new response to a liberal enviro-moron should be, “You’re right, this wont help tomorrow because it will take five / ten / fifteen years to build. SO SHUT THE H#%% UP and GET THE F#$* OUT OF THE WAY!

Anonymous

He’ll probably go for $5. Many liberals, including members of Obama’s administration have openly expressed their desire to see gas prices rise to extreme levels. I take them at their word.
Anonymous

Hey, Penis, I mean DICK, there’s already $4 buck gas where I live. I have a good job and I can afford it. What’s wrong with you? Are you just another slacker Anglo-Saxon, who spends his days and nights bitching and moaning about what Brown and Black get from the government?

Now, to the rest of your rant. How did stupid ass 43 develop or oil reserves? As I remember, and I have the receipts to prove it, gas hit $4 bones a couple of times during his regime. What did you say then? Yeah I thought so, every excuse but placing the blame where it was due. 44 knows helluva lot more about the region than all of you tea-bagging ethnic Europeans. He’s playing it right and as far as the Libyan people are concerned, they’re throwing off the yoke of Amerikan supported tyranny and that’s always a good thing. Better get a horse, because when my cousins get through with the Mid-East, you and others like you will need one to get around

http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants from time to time.
N0nesuch

I remember posts on this site a few years ago applauding how Bush had turned this tyrant around. What a difference a few years make…

Anonymous

Under Bush, he gave up his nuclear program. Under Obama, he is slaughtering his own people. I bet you still believe that this is an improvement.
He knows he has nothing to fear from Obama unless it is getting hit by Obama’s head when the President bows to him.
The trouble in this part of the world started over 3 weeks ago. Why don’t we have a carrier fleet in the Mediterian? Even if Obama wanted to do something about Libya, his own dereliction of duty now stands in the way of him acting.
But you are right about one thing. If we had a President like Bush instead of Obama, the people of Libya wouldn’t be blown to bits in their streets.

http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

The trouble in the region started 3 centuries ago.

Anonymous

Actually, it started about 14 centuries ago.
Lefties cry about the plight of the Palestinians. But they are a recently invented subgroup of Arabs. They have no historical record. Their creation was for just one purpose, exterminate Jews.
When the Arabs invaded Egypt, there were almost 6 million Copts. Today, there are less than a million. Where are the calls claiming genocide. Yet with Palestinians, they didn’t exist a century ago and now there are 10 million of them. One group sees it’s numbers decimated and the world is silent. Another group sees it’s numbers increase and all we hear about is the genocide being committed against them???
I wish I saw a good outcome from all of this. The only hope that I have is for militant Islam to die and be replaced by the belief in Bahai. The Jews and Christians have shed their violent past. The only hope we have is for Islam to follow suit.

http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

The 3 century remark was just in a slightly sarcastic response to the “3 weeks ago” bit. Yeah, the region has been screwed for more than a millennium and there is no signs of it getting better.

And it isn’t like Africa where you can say colonial powers screwed it over (certain areas, not all of it, it is an issue with the fact that the colonial powers had no idea how to properly farm the region and destroyed massive areas of farmland and caused the loss of the information of HOW to farm the land). This region is legitimately in a permanent case of “total screw up” under its own power. The only place that has done well is Israel, and she is demonized for it.
http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

The 3 century remark was just in a slightly sarcastic response to the “3 weeks ago” bit. Yeah, the region has been screwed for more than a millennium and there is no signs of it getting better.

And it isn’t like Africa where you can say colonial powers screwed it over (certain areas, not all of it, it is an issue with the fact that the colonial powers had no idea how to properly farm the region and destroyed massive areas of farmland and caused the loss of the information of HOW to farm the land). This region is legitimately in a permanent case of “total screw up” under its own power. The only place that has done well is Israel, and she is demonized for it.
Anonymous

Actually, the trouble started with a group of high class Anglo-Saxons and Celts thought that their holier than thou religion should be spread to other parts of the world and encroached on Muslim land, sticking their collective noses in someone else’s business or as they say down south, bidness. It got taken to a whole different level with the discovery of oil and the need to fill the West’s addiction to it. Personally, I wish the west would develop alternative energy sources and left the ME the hell alone. Besides in 15 years the Yuan will replace the dollar as the dominate world currency and that’s where the money will be.

D-Vega

Kadaffi didn’t give up those things because he was scared of Bush, he did those things for petro-dollars and deals from Europe. Those dollars are now being used to squash the rebellion.

Secondly, I would agree that if this continues, it may be time to move ships over there in order to convince Kadaffi to stop the slaughter.

Other than that, we don’t have any leverage.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

“Kadaffi didn’t give up those things because he was scared of Bush, he did those things for petro-dollars and deals from Europe. Those dollars are now being used to squash the rebellion.”

Prove it.

D-Vega

The European Union and the United States lifted most of their trade sanctions against the government in Tripoli in 2004. The easing followed Kadafi’s announcement that he was giving up his nuclear ambitions and that Libya would pay compensation to the families of those who died in the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am jetliner over Lockerbie, Scotland. The terrorist act, blamed on Libya, killed 270 people.

As European capitals welcomed Kadafi in from the cold, their companies rushed to his country in search of black gold. Spain and France boast oil interests in Libya, as do Norway and Austria. British-based corporations alone have inked deals worth more than $1 trillion in oil and gas exploration. Libya has also opened its door to British retailers such as Marks & Spencer, which sell their wares to the Libyan middle class.

The most fervent suitor of the Kadafi regime has been Italy, a colonial power in Libya during much of the first half of the 20th century. Italian governments of the last 50 years have all pursued close ties with Tripoli, even after Kadafi’s 1969 coup. Eni, the Italian energy giant, is the No. 1 foreign oil producer in Libya and has maintained an uninterrupted presence there throughout Kadafi’s 41 years in power. The company has promised to invest as much as $25 billion in the country.

The relationship goes both ways: There are major Libyan stakes in Fiat, the Italian bank UniCredit and the soccer team Juventus. Berlusconi has been by far Kadafi’s biggest cheerleader in Europe. He has met with the Libyan strongman probably more times than he has with any other non-European foreign leader — even kissing Kadafi’s hand at one meeting — and defended Kadafi from criticism.

In 2008, one of Kadafi’s sons, Hannibal, was arrested in Switzerland on suspicion of beating up domestic servants. Kadafi retaliated by having two Swiss businessmen in Libya thrown into jail over alleged visa violations. In protest, Swiss officials slapped entry restrictions on senior members of Kadafi’s government, sparking a feud in which Berlusconi repeatedly attacked Switzerland, which backed down early last year.

Berlusconi’s unwavering support has borne fruit for his compatriots. “Only the Italians land any contracts” in Libya, a senior French official complained last year to American diplomats in Paris, according to a cable released by the WikiLeaks website.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-europe-libya-20110224,0,77138.story
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

That proves it was a RESULT of his change, it doesn’t prove he did it GET that result. Berlusconi claimed Kadafi TOLD him he backed down because of OIF.

“US President George W. Bush and other supporters of the Iraq War portrayed Gaddafi’s announcement as a direct consequence of the Iraq War by stating that Gaddafi acted out of fear for the future of his own regime if he continued to keep and conceal his weapons. Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi, a supporter of the Iraq War, was quoted as saying that Gaddafi had privately phoned him, admitting as much.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_al-Gaddafi

So do we believe Berlusconi or you?
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

That proves it was a RESULT of his change, it doesn’t prove he did it GET that result. Berlusconi claimed Kadafi TOLD him he backed down because of OIF.

“US President George W. Bush and other supporters of the Iraq War portrayed Gaddafi’s announcement as a direct consequence of the Iraq War by stating that Gaddafi acted out of fear for the future of his own regime if he continued to keep and conceal his weapons. Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi, a supporter of the Iraq War, was quoted as saying that Gaddafi had privately phoned him, admitting as much.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_al-Gaddafi

So do we believe Berlusconi or you?
D-Vega

I wouldn’t believe Berlusconi, since he has a huge dog in that hunt.

UN and EU sanctions:

1992/1993 The UN Security Council imposes an air and arms embargo and bans the sale of oil equipment to Libya to put pressure on Tripoli to hand over two Libyan suspects in the Lockerbie bombing for trial.

1999 Sanctions are suspended when Libya surrenders them in April 1999.

2003 After Libya agrees to pay $2.7bn in compensation to relatives of those killed in the attack, Britain drafts a Security Council resolution to end UN sanctions. A further Libyan agreement to compensate for the 1989 bombing of a French UTA airliner leads to the resolution being passed on 12 September.

2004 On 20 September, President George W Bush lifted the American trade embargo on Libya. Most of the sanctions were suspended in April, but the president formally revoked those which remained – dealing with general trade, aviation and importing Libyan oil. A freeze on Libyan assets in the United States was also lifted.

In October, European Union foreign ministers followed suit, agreeing to end sanctions, including an arms embargo.

It followed pressure from Italy, which wanted sanctions lifted so that it could supply Libya with hi-tech equipment intended to curb illegal migration.

Libya has also paid the first instalment of a compensation package to non-US victims of the 1986 Berlin disco bomb attack.

This led Germany to call for “a new quality” in EU-Libya ties and Gerhard Schroeder went to Tripoli to hold talks with Colonel Muammar Gaddafi – the first by a German chancellor.
D-Vega

I wouldn’t believe Berlusconi, since he has a huge dog in that hunt.

UN and EU sanctions:

1992/1993 The UN Security Council imposes an air and arms embargo and bans the sale of oil equipment to Libya to put pressure on Tripoli to hand over two Libyan suspects in the Lockerbie bombing for trial.

1999 Sanctions are suspended when Libya surrenders them in April 1999.

2003 After Libya agrees to pay $2.7bn in compensation to relatives of those killed in the attack, Britain drafts a Security Council resolution to end UN sanctions. A further Libyan agreement to compensate for the 1989 bombing of a French UTA airliner leads to the resolution being passed on 12 September.

2004 On 20 September, President George W Bush lifted the American trade embargo on Libya. Most of the sanctions were suspended in April, but the president formally revoked those which remained – dealing with general trade, aviation and importing Libyan oil. A freeze on Libyan assets in the United States was also lifted.

In October, European Union foreign ministers followed suit, agreeing to end sanctions, including an arms embargo.

It followed pressure from Italy, which wanted sanctions lifted so that it could supply Libya with hi-tech equipment intended to curb illegal migration.

Libya has also paid the first instalment of a compensation package to non-US victims of the 1986 Berlin disco bomb attack.

This led Germany to call for “a new quality” in EU-Libya ties and Gerhard Schroeder went to Tripoli to hold talks with Colonel Muammar Gaddafi – the first by a German chancellor.

D-Vega

Kadaffi didn’t give up those things because he was scared of Bush, he did those things for petro-dollars and deals from Europe. Those dollars are now being used to squash the rebellion.

Secondly, I would agree that if this continues, it may be time to move ships over there in order to convince Kadaffi to stop the slaughter.

Other than that, we don’t have any leverage.
Anonymous

Please, its common knowledge that he started that process under 42′s presidency. But since you have a hard on for stupid ass 43, how do you feel that his “Black” pet, Condi Rice, orchestrated the release of the Lockerbie bomber, all so that more oil deals could be done?
Anonymous

Please, its common knowledge that he started that process under 42′s presidency. But since you have a hard on for stupid ass 43, how do you feel that his “Black” pet, Condi Rice, orchestrated the release of the Lockerbie bomber, all so that more oil deals could be done?

StanW

Yeah, says a lot about Obama and how he is viewed on the international stage. What does Quadaffi-Duck have to fear or be concerned with when it comes to the spinless occupant of the Oval Office?

Anonymous

This is just a flat out abdication by Obama. It was bad enough to have to listen to Clinton pine away for some crisis to build his legacy on, but here we have a generational event custom crafted for Obama to knock out of the park (pro-democracy uprisings largely in Africa) and he votes “present”.

Obama could be to North Africa what Reagan was to Eastern Europe, but no. The only question left is whether he’s too ignorant and incompetent to act, or as a liberal he’s in favor of strong-arm dictators wielding absolute power.
Mark

We know Obama’s not going to do anything about it, we’d like to hear what you think he should do John?

Good Ol Boy

I’ll take swing at that question, if you don’t mind. If it were my decision, first and foremost, I would have the CIA working overtime on all available intelligence gathering assets within Libya; finding out who is who, who may be possible future allies of ours, what the various factions intentions are, etc. I’d have the CIA secretly begin funnelling aid to any groups who’re friendly to US interests. Also have the State Dept. meeting with the surrounding nations to gauge their reactions. With that gathered information, I would assess the situation before making any public statements.
While that is going on, I would order a carrier group into the region as a show of strength and to deter violence against our citizens with their borders.
Once that groundwork was laid, and our future Libyan allies well positioned, I’d give a rousing Reaganesque speech about freedom and democracy and the bright future Libya can achieve as our ally.
After that, there’s not much else to do but sit back and hope for the best.

Anonymous

In case you didn’t know, genius, that country was considered closed to intelligence gathering. The last time we developed intel in a closed country, it got us into a war of choice that 1) was ill planned and 2) not paid for 3) allowed Amerikan PRIVATE contractors to rip off the Amerikan people and 4) didn’t have the end result that the rest of us was led to believe. Wanna do that again?

Anonymous

I wish he’d just keep silent on all these revolts. He isn’t going to intervene, he isn’t even going to inspire anyone so just stay out of it.

All that is guaranteed should Obama choose to take a more active role is that he will make it worse.
Proud Infidel

A jellyfish has at least twice as much backbone as that backpedaling bowaholic currently occupying the White House. Under Bush, he surrendered his nuke and chemical weapons programs, and now that he knows what a mega-wimp B. Hussein Obama is, he worries about as much about US intervention as Ayatollah Khomeni did when Jimmeh Kahtuh was President!

Anonymous

Hmm, 44 is a coward. Okay, then what would you call a senile, bad actor, who cut and ran from Lebanon and then dealt weapons to the country that paid for and trained the organization that bombed the marine barracks?
Anonymous

Hmm, 44 is a coward. Okay, then what would you call a senile, bad actor, who cut and ran from Lebanon and then dealt weapons to the country that paid for and trained the organization that bombed the marine barracks?

Joetote

I’m not sure why anyone should be surprised ad this clown’s stance as to the oil situation. consider the fact that it took our boy 8 days to get his head far enough out of his behind to even comment on the Libya situation. 8 days! In the meantime gas prices are flying through the roof! Yet, his so called administration has the gall to believe we the electorate are really dumb enough to accept their claims that inflation is not happening!

During his campaign, Obama was quite comfortable lecturing the electorate on the fact that he felt it was ok if gas prices when up to $5 a gallon or more. didn’t matter to our wanna be dictator! Now as the Mid-East goes up in flames and he openly shows his disdain for Israel, he steadfastly refuses as you note to allow us to tap our own vast natural resources.

His ideology dictates we as a country must be destroyed and become beholden to the third world garbage that is now and has been calling the shots in the U.N. for years.

Our president is nothing more than a follower of a failed Marxist/Socialist system and on top of that every move he makes is also apparently aimed at supporting every radical Muslim order out there.
Joetote

I’m not sure why anyone should be surprised ad this clown’s stance as to the oil situation. consider the fact that it took our boy 8 days to get his head far enough out of his behind to even comment on the Libya situation. 8 days! In the meantime gas prices are flying through the roof! Yet, his so called administration has the gall to believe we the electorate are really dumb enough to accept their claims that inflation is not happening!

During his campaign, Obama was quite comfortable lecturing the electorate on the fact that he felt it was ok if gas prices when up to $5 a gallon or more. didn’t matter to our wanna be dictator! Now as the Mid-East goes up in flames and he openly shows his disdain for Israel, he steadfastly refuses as you note to allow us to tap our own vast natural resources.

His ideology dictates we as a country must be destroyed and become beholden to the third world garbage that is now and has been calling the shots in the U.N. for years.

Our president is nothing more than a follower of a failed Marxist/Socialist system and on top of that every move he makes is also apparently aimed at supporting every radical Muslim order out there.
Anonymous

Libya is another one of those 3 AM phones calls mentioned by hillary – and, once again, “You Lie!” hussein is asleep (or hungover from the booze and drugs of yet another taxpayer-funded party.)

Gadhafi and “You Lie!” hussein – these muslims really stick together, don’t they?
Anonymous

Libya is another one of those 3 AM phones calls mentioned by hillary – and, once again, “You Lie!” hussein is asleep (or hungover from the booze and drugs of yet another taxpayer-funded party.)

Gadhafi and “You Lie!” hussein – these muslims really stick together, don’t they?
Joetote

From the Washington Post:

“President Obama‘s top economic adviser said Thursday the White House is monitoring the spike in oil prices as a result of uprisings in Libya, but said that recent fluctuations aren’t likely to derail the U.S. economic recovery.”

Now can someone please tell me how runaway oil prices that are basically due to the ineptness of the CIC (Clown In Chief) will not or cannot effect the current economy? Good Grief! They actually expect us to believe these lies!!!!!

Joebritton

Lybia produces only 2% of the world’s oil. If prices spike it will only be due to exploiters of the geopolitical situation.

http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

So, tell me, what would happen to the US economy if within a matter of days 2% of it disappeared? Do you understand the damage that would cause? Everything connects in an economy (which is why human beings are too incompetent to ever regulate it, information overload). Shrink it down to a single industry, and it works the same. That 2% can cause massive changes around the globe. The oil companies are barely keeping up with demand as is. A 2% drop in supply is MASSIVE damage, decreasing supply and increasing demand, causing a sharp spike in the value of the product, in this case oil.

But, off course, you subscribe to the idea that man can somehow regulate trillions of commercial interactions per day without screwing it up completely and totally, so your probably aren’t intelligent enough to understand this.

Joebritton

Would you also criticize Obama for abdicating his world leadership role and voting against the Security Council sanction against Israel to stop their settlement building in the Palestinian territories, or continuing what is essentially a 40 year military occupation and colonialism that is funded by the US?

The Palestinians are another Middle East people seeking democracy, freedom and self-determination.

Anonymous

Between 1948 and 1967, the Palestinians territory were illegally occupied by the Egyptians and Jordainians. Where were the UN resolutions condemning this practice? At anytime during these years, they could have made a homeland for the Palestinians on the land they brutally occupied. Why didn’t they?
And during this period, the illegally occupation by these Arab thugs of the peaceful Palestinian people constructed 261 settlements. Shouldn’t all of these settlements also be destroyed?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YWXM6Q6QGELGTT334IQMWB774Q David

For that matter if everyone in the Arab world is so concerned about the Palestinians why don’t they allow them to settle in any of their countries and give them citizenship? Why are so many Palestinians still in refugee camps?
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YWXM6Q6QGELGTT334IQMWB774Q David

For that matter if everyone in the Arab world is so concerned about the Palestinians why don’t they allow them to settle in any of their countries and give them citizenship? Why are so many Palestinians still in refugee camps?

Joebritton

Because their homeland is in Palestine. Palestinians are not Jordanians or Syrians or Lebanese. I know all Arabs look alike to you, but the truth is they are quite distinct in their culture and language.

Anonymous

Actually, one of the most common names in Gaza today is Al-Masri. Masri means Egyptian. Yet according to you, people with the surname of Egyptian is a Palestinian???

Joebritton

Why didn’t they make a home? Because their homes were in what became the state of Israel, from which 80% of them were ethnically cleansed in 1948, and which UN Resolution 194 (passed in 1948), the right to return, was promised.

And those alleged Palestinian settlements you talk about, which were also present in other surrounding Arab countries, were actually Palestinian refugee camps run by the UNWRA. Israel presently sits on the homeland of the Palestinian people, their homeland for over 1,400 years. And when the Palestinians return to the homes and villages they were ejected from forcibly, those refugee camps will be destroyed.

Joebritton

PS: Did you know that after the passage of UN Resolution 194, many Palestinians believed that they were legally able to return to their homes and villages in what was now Israel. As reported by Halper (founder of the ICAHD), 3-5,000 Palestinians were murdered when they attempted to go back to their homes and villages. The murderers were the Israeli border police. Nice reception, no?
Anonymous

No where in the 1949 resolution was the right of return promised. It states that those wishing to live in peace can return. Please show me a Palestinian document where they ever promised peace. Here is the UN document.
http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/c758572b78d1cd0085256bcf0077e51a?OpenDocument
As for your lame explanation about the 260 settlements the Jordainians and Egyptians illegally built, they are not the refugee camps. They are actually new towns and settlements that weren’t on any maps and the refugees were prohibited from occupying them. Instead, new “Palestinians” were imported from other areas to create facts on the ground. The refugee camps that were created are still in existance and the rights of these people is suppressed by their Arab brothers.
As for UNRWA, that is the organization that has most suppressed the PLO-Arabs. All the refugees in the world are under UNHCR except for the PLO-Arabs. They have their own separate organization with it’s own special rules. In 1952, the UN did a study on refugees around the world. At that time, the PLO-Arabs made up 4% of the world’s refugees. THe PLO-Arabs are the only people that are still refugees to this day.
When you look at a map from a century ago, all you see for this region is Ottoman Empire. When the Ottomans were defeated in WWI, the region was divided by the European powers. The British Mandate for Palestine was designated as a home for the Jews. In 1922, the British Mandate for Palestine was divided with the Arabs getting 80% of the land and the Jews getting 20%. The Arabs didn’t accept this and illegally emigrated into the Jewish section. This is where the PLO-Arabs were born. They don’t have a history of living in the land for 1400 years. 90% of them came into the region in the 1920s and 30s. The Jews agreed to divide this small section of land and the Arabs again rejected this. How many times do the Arabs have to say no to peace before you realize that have no desire for peace?
I would like to ask you one question. Why is 94% of the middle east and 22 Arab nations not enough and 6% and 1 Jewish nation too many?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YWXM6Q6QGELGTT334IQMWB774Q David

From what I can see, they are mainly seeking kill as many Jews as they can.
Anonymous

You do realize that most of the “Palestinian” settlements are on the boarder of Israel correct. So if Israel only controls (at best) 50% of the boarder space how come there are walls, manned check points, and security patrols all the way around the “Palestinian settlements?

The answer is that their Muslim “brothers” don’t want them either.

Doesn’t that say something about a people to you?

Anonymous

Operators are standing by, so VOTE NOW:

Gadhafi vs. charlie sheen — which one of these despicable, depraved clowns is funnier?

Just think: if sheen overindulges on coke and hookers and gadhafi leaves his cushy ruler-for-life gig in Libya, the C(ertified)B(iased)S(ocialists) network will have an immediately replacement to star in “Two and a Half Men”.
Martin4058

If a Lybian in Tripoli was to ask me to translate what Obama said, I would simply reply “Sorry guys, you’re on your own”.
Crescent Crusher

I slam Islam. Islam is lam(e). Is lam(b) tasty like pork? I slam(dance) to the “Moose limb” minaret prayer call music. My favorite square dance word is “Ramadan-a-ling-dong.”
Mad Mohammad Masher

Howard Stern should invite Hillary over to his show and have her demonstrate using the Lybian Sybian. I’m sure our Muslim terrorist enemies would call that torture if they were forced to view that…
Anonymous

Obama is not a President. He is not a Leader. He is not even a Man. He is a DISGRACE!

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