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Obama’s Speech Coverage On RWN Vs. Poll Numbers? Can I Call It Or What?
Written By : John Hawkins

After I liveblogged Obama’s speech 6 days ago, here’s what I wrote:

Summary: My initial impression was that this speech is not going to be helpful to Obama. At best, I think it may give him a short, temporary burst. But, it was too generic, too much of the same old, same old. Much of it was laughable. We’re going to pay for the plan by cutting waste. Do it for Ted, blah, blah. Obama needed a game changer here. Although his delivery was good, it was tired rhetoric. Grade: D-

Now, here’s the latest from Rasmussen Polling:

Following President Obama’s speech to Congress last week, support for his health care reform plan increased steadily to a peak of 51% yesterday. However, the bounce appears to be over. The latest daily tracking shows that support has fallen all the way back to pre-speech levels.

Forty-five percent (45%) of all voters nationwide now favor the plan while 52% are opposed. A week ago, 44% supported the proposal and 53% were opposed. (see day-by-day numbers).

The latest figures show that 23% Strongly Favor the plan and 41% are Strongly Opposed. In late August, 23% were strongly in favor of the plan and 43% were strongly opposed. Premium Members can see full demographic crosstabs for results released today, Monday, Sunday, Saturday, Friday, Thursday and, for comparison, late August.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll is another indicator of the speech’s impact, and there, too, the bounce in approval Obama has been getting since the Wednesday night speech appears to have ended. Job Approval ratings are updated each morning at 9:30 EDT.

Told ya so.

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  • CoolCzech

    Even Politico is starting to give up on Obamacare and Obama's chances of being a "transformational President":

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27134.h

    Heh. They mention that it's not clear Obamacare could pass even in the House, where the Dems have a 77 seat majority!

    Cap & Trade is as good as dead.

    The best Obama can hope for is a caretaker Presidency, the sort of thing Bush, Jr. had in mind before 9/11.

    The shame of it is: Obama COULD make some positive healthcare moves, for example by severing the connection between employment and health insurance. But he's too busy beating his head against the Public Option wall.

  • Mike_M

    Right Czech, Obama is petulantly demanding a complete government takeover of health care on his terms alone. There is a ton of room for agreement, but Obama's goal is power and control, not freedom and coverage.

    Both sides are in favor of creating a national market for insurance companies through an exchange or lifting bans on interstate sales. Both sides want to give tax credits for individual and small business plans. Both sides want to make insurance more portable.

    But Obama demands the government be given free reign to rewrite insurance laws and policies. He wants to send bureaucrats into hospitals to decide what equipment is used. He wants to expand public health insurance based on the failed and bankrupt Medicare model to get as many people dependent on the program as possible regardless of the cost. He wants to funnel billions of dollars to ACORN and empower them as a Health Gestapo. He has an unshakeable obsession to control everything from med school loans to who gets treatment. It's all in the bill.

    If this was about health insurance, it would have been happily concluded by now. Obama has made it about his personal quest for power and the enslavement of every American to the chains of Big Government.

  • CoolCzech

    The one thing Obama does NOT want to control are the endless lawsuits that are in fact behind much of spiraling healthcare costs.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    Plus, CC, he's already cut his deal with Big Pharma to allow them their pound of flesh, and as anyone who's remotely involved in purchasing health care benefits knows, it's been the drug costs which have been leading the spiral in health care costs for at least the past decade.

  • Mike_M

    Posted by martinhale

    2009-09-15 14:29:18

    Don't forget Hillary's conrtibution to drug prices. The 1993 Vaccines for Children bill she pushed through Congress that forced drug companies to sell the government vaccines at cut rates (many already provided free vaccines voluntarily) severely damaged the industry, wiping out $1 billion of investment capital, causing some companies to close, and others to move overseas.

    Today only 5 companies in the United States produce vaccines and there are continual problems with availability and safety because of it.

    Ham-fisted mandates and unintended consequences litter the history of government involvement in health care. Now Obama wants to take government involvement to a historic new high with a bill nobody in Congress has read nor has claimed to fully understand.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    Yeah, that and the FDA allowing BigPharma to lock up drugs behind patent protection for longer than the normal patent protection period, simply by applying to the FDA for additional approved uses. It's amazing how many drugs get a second life during the last year of exclusive production. I have no problem with Big Pharma having a few years of premium sales to recoup investment on drug development. But when they get close to a fifteen year shot at it, it seems unfair and anti-competitive.

    Then BigPharma cries poverty, which just strikes me as ludicrous when one considers what they spend on marketing their products to providers and advertising them to providers and consumers alike. Yes, development is an expensive crap-shoot, but there's no legitimate reason to gouge Americans just because you rolled the right numbers.

  • CoolCzech

    So as we can see, even Americ'a sudden seeming inability to even produce enuff vaccines, for God's Sake! is due to…

    Liberal meddling in the economy.

  • arthur_branch

    If I ever run for office I am gonna hire Hawkins as my campaign manager.

  • aharris

    Posted by martinhale

    2009-09-15 14:56:56

    While not specifically defending big pharma, how many of the pharma companies sell to socialized medicine countries and take a loss there due to government-imposed price controls?

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    aharris, I'm not a huge BigPharma hater, but their business practices just don't add up to me as a businessman. Since you mentioned it, they have that whole 'differential world pricing' scheme which punishes Americans by shunting the brunt of the their development costs off on their US customers and then dumping the same drugs in other countries at half to a third the price they sell it for here. They don't just sell drugs in Canada and Mexico to socialised medical systems, they sell them at retail for the same lower price in those countries. If they were taking such a beating at the hands of the socialised medicine programmes in other countries, you'd think they'd have fought to keep the retail price on par with that in the US. But they don't. At best, that's a deceptive practice.

    Then there's the whole marketing and advertising practice they undertake. How many ads for drugs you can't purchase OTC do you see a night on the teevee? One is too many, but on an average night, you might see five or six. Why are they advertising to an audience which can't legally obtain the product being advertised?

    My ex was a provider and I still have boxes of marketing swag given her by pharmaceutical reps. And that doesn't account for the doughnuts, the lunches, the picnics which the drug reps provided for her and her staff. And that doesn't account for the millions of dollars they pay providers to speak favourably about their products during speeches and professional seminars. How about the influential Chief of Psychiatry, I think it was at Emory U Med School who'd been paid several million for touting the wonders of Ritalin. That's shady at best.

    When BigPharma whines about their profits, as a business person, I look at their practices and can't help but think that I would do things a whole lot differently, were I them. I'd be much more receptive to their case if they ran their business in a more straightforward and transparent manner. Instead I see them splashing money around like there's no tomorrow and then simultaneously whinging about their phenomenal development costs.

    It doesn't add up.

    I know your hubby works for one of the larger pharma firms, and hopefully they don't engage in all of the scurrilous practices I've cited above, but a lot of the big pharma companies do, and it's given their market sector a bad reputation. I spent five years in San Diego where Pfizer rules with a heavy hand, and having had friends who held executive roles with them, I have to say that they're one of the worst offenders of the lot. They're also the richest of the big pharma companies.

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