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Sarah Palin V. Barack Obama: Round Whatever
Written By : Melissa Clouthier

As President Obama pontificates before the UN talking about his four pillars, the first one being disarmament, also known as defanging the West so they’re helpless before an enemy that will never disarm, Sarah Palin talks about what is important to the American people and the economic world: It’s the economy, stupid.

Foreign policy often hinges on economic policy. The guns just back up the message.

Did Sarah Palin’s message work? No one can fully say. The press wasn’t allowed in to hear it. But here are a few of her words via the Wall Street Journal:

“We got into this mess because of government interference in the first place,” the former Republican U.S. vice presidential candidate said Wednesday at a conference sponsored by investment firm CLSA Asia-Pacific Markets. “We’re not interested in government fixes, we’re interested in freedom,” she added.

Is Barack Obama’s speech before the UN working? He is saying some interesting things, but the meta-message, weakness, will trump all words. No wonder the UN members like him, says the UK’s Nile Gardiner:

It is not hard to see why a standing ovation awaits the president at Turtle Bay. Obama’s popularity at the UN boils down essentially to his willingness to downplay American global power. He is the first American president who has made an art form out of apologizing for the United States, which he has done on numerous occasions on foreign soil, from Strasbourg to Cairo. The Obama mantra appears to be – ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do to atone for your country. This is a message that goes down very well in a world that is still seething with anti-Americanism.

It is natural that much of the UN will embrace an American president who declines to offer strong American leadership. A president who engages dictators like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez will naturally gain respect from the leaders of the more than 100 members of the United Nations who are currently designated as “partly free” or “not free” by respected watchdog Freedom House.

The UN is not a club of democracies – who still remain a minority within its membership – it is a vast melting pot of free societies, socialist regimes and outright tyrannies. Obama’s clear lack of interest in human rights issues is a big seller at the UN, where at least half its members have poor human rights records.

The United States has a study in contrasts–as does the world. There will be those who dismiss Sarah Palin’s quaint provincialism and extol Barack Obama’s egalitarian moral equivalence. Eventually, though, a world economy driven into the ground by soft-socialistic policies makes even the most ruthless tyrant hunger for the good old days when there was food and riches and wealth.

It’s a good day for evil world leaders if America goes down the toilet, but it’s a suicidal impulse. Americans, too, might want a softer place to land economically, they might desire big spending Eurpoean social programs, but that makes America weak and beholden to foreign nations. Suddenly, American foreign policy is dictated by dictators and those who hold the economic power.

In the end, Sarah Palin’s speech and philosophy will mean more for American security and sovereignty than President Obama’s empty words to a heedless world. They adore Obama but they disrespect the United States because we are buried in debt.

Foreign policy and economic policy are so wrapped together, one can’t be discussed without the other one. President Obama’s philosophy is making America weak both ways.

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  • BIG

    I'm surprised that President Obama hasn't decided to just give the countries that want nuclear bombs the ones he wants America to destroy. These countries are impoverishing their people trying to invent technology we already have. If we just give them nukes, they will then spend those resources on hopeychangey stuff.

    /sarcasm

  • Robert_Ingersoll

    Palin vs. Obama? Hard to envision it a competition when the looser of the last election quits her first term as governor. Much easier for her to heckle from the audience, than to face the hard decisions.

    And you bring up an interesting point when you mentioned disarmament, after the harangue about shelving the missile defense in Poland, then Russia in kind withdrew the missiles it was going to place in the same region there was a strange silence on RWN. You must have been supporting your Presidents decision with silence, like good Patriots.

  • http://Good_Ol_Boy Good_Ol_Boy

    The UN is not a club of democracies – who still remain a minority within its membership

    Sad but true. All the more reason for the US to withdraw from the Useless Nuisances and form a League of Democracies.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    when the looser of the last election

    McCain was the POTUS nominee of the Republican Party. He lost to Barak Obama.

  • http://Good_Ol_Boy Good_Ol_Boy

    Much easier for her to heckle from the audience, than to face the hard decisions.

    Heh. Sounds like you're describing Al Gore and John Kerry.

  • BIG

    Sarah had better beware. President Obama is receiving praise from a world leader the democrats love. With world support like this, there is noway Obama can lose in 2012.

    Fidel Castro praises Obama on climate change
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_la_a
    It is all over for Sarah now that the world loves America with Obama running the ship.

  • Robert_Ingersoll

    Heh. Sounds like you're describing Al Gore and John Kerry.

    @Good_Ol_Boy,

    Neither of them quit… 'Heh' back attcha.

    McCain was the POTUS nominee of the Republican Party. He lost to Barak Obama.

    @Dick_Nixon,

    McCain was the candidate? Couldn't tell looking at the support from the Republican base.

  • TheBaud

    McCain was the candidate? Couldn't tell looking at the support from the Republican base.

    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2009-09-23 13:01:09

    You are still unable to deal with the fact that our Vice-Presidential candidate had more experience that your Presidential candidate.

    But thanks for the admission that Sarah Palin excited the Republican base like no other candidate in a while. Your fear of her is noted.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Hard to envision it a competition when the looser of the last election quits her first term as governor.

    Which quitter, Kathleen Sebelius or Janet Napolitano? Both quit their previous positions to join Obama's cabinet.

    Let's not forget that both Obama and Clinton quit their Senate seats as well.

    Wanna go there? Knock yourself out, I'm interested in more liberal asskicking today.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Your fear of her is noted.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 13:04:39

    Another liberal afraid of a girl! Just your typical liberal metrosexual.

  • whats_up

    Which quitter, Kathleen Sebelius or Janet Napolitano? Both quit their previous positions to join Obama's cabinet.

    Let's not forget that both Obama and Clinton quit their Senate seats as well.

    Wanna go there? Knock yourself out, I'm interested in more liberal asskicking today.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-09-23 13:08:26

    Ha, this is your reasons, yes they quite to either join a cabinet or be President, remind us again why Palin quit, oh thats right it got too tough, God that was just too easy, cmon King usually you are better than this, weaksauce man, weaksauce.

  • whats_up

    You are still unable to deal with the fact that our Vice-Presidential candidate had more experience that your Presidential candidate.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 13:04:39

    Oh you mean that vaunted foreign policy experience she has because she can see Russia from an Island in Alaska, really man get a clue.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Ha, this is your reasons,

    Which you immediately contradict yourself here:

    yes they quite to either join a cabinet or be President,

    So they're quitters. Thank you for admitting that point.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Oh you mean that vaunted foreign policy experience she has because she can see Russia from an Island in Alaska,

    Two different issues, in a lame attempt by you to lie about Palin. Good think you're too fucking stupid to pull that off.

  • CoolCzech

    Rush is playing excerpts of Obama's speech. I almost came to tears, to think that an American President shares a world view of America more in keeping with of Venezuela or Cuba than Americans… I thought what my father would have thought of this speech, and almost lost it.

    Then Rush played Ka-Daffy's (D-Libya) speech… and this murderrous tyrant's rant sounded like Obama could have given it.

    America's first Unpatriotic President. Nay… America's first anti-American President. What a disgusting, loathsome, hateful spectacle this man is. I expect him to be shitcanned in 2012 – but then he'll travel the world spewing his anti-Americanism for decades to come. Shame, shame.

  • CoolCzech

    Somewhere, I'm sure Hugo Chavez (D-Venezuela) is stroking off to the sound of The Won's anti-American agitprop.

  • TheBaud

    Oh you mean that vaunted foreign policy experience she has because she can see Russia from an Island in Alaska, really man get a clue.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 13:20:36

    Remind me again of what Obama's foreign policy experience was. Or maybe you'd prefer to discuss his experience in public office compared to Palin's.

    No, in your case whats_up, I'm sure you'd be more comfortable attacking her children AGAIN!

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Oh you mean that vaunted foreign policy experience she has because she can see Russia from an Island in Alaska, really man get a clue.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:20:36

    Please post proof that Palin ever claimed to be able to see Russia from Alaska. (that was Tina Fey on SNL, not Sarah Palin, whatatard!)

  • CoolCzech

    "Remind me again of what Obama's foreign policy experience was."

    Well, he DID spend 20 years listening to the Rev. Wright spew anti-White American hatred, you know, about how we oppress the world.

  • CoolCzech

    Whats_up can see Saturday Night Live from his house.

    He thinks that qualifies him to have an opinion on adult matters.

  • BIG

    Remind me again of what Obama's foreign policy experience was. Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 13:25:14

    Obama had much more foreign experience than Palin did. He was able to vacation in Pakistan at a time when Americans weren't allowed entry into that nation. That is quite a trick and I wish we had a free and independent media in America that would have looked into this amazing feat.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 13:28:06

    And on another thread he claimed to use logic and intelligence, My guess is what_a_tard lives SNL.

  • BIG

    Posted by bthewolf

    2009-09-23 13:25:33

    She said it. But Tina Fey's is a lot funnier.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    remind us again why Palin quit

    To spend the next few years kicking Obama's and the Democrats' asses around the block and inspire raw pants-wetting terror in Liberals every time her name comes up. All of which she's doing quite well, to judge by the stink of fear that emanates from all your comments about her. You should probably put down a rubber mat under your computer desk.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    remind us again why Palin quit,

    $500,000 in personal legal fees defending bogus ethics complaints. Unlike Obama, Palin didn't have George Soros' money behind her to pay them.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    Please post proof that Palin ever claimed to be able to see Russia from Alaska. (that was Tina Fey on SNL, not Sarah Palin, whatatard!)

    Sarah Palin stated that you can see Russia from parts of Alaska, which is perfectly true. Tina Fey said that she (playing Palin) could see Russia from her house, which Liberals (being complete morons) immediately attributed to Palin.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    McCain was the candidate? Couldn't tell looking at the support from the Republican base.

    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll

    2009-09-23 13:01:09

    Apparently politics is not your forte'. Palin brought conservatives to the ticket that would not have looked twice at McCain. The fact the election was as close as it was proves that fact.

    Thanks for playing.

  • whats_up

    Obama had much more foreign experience than Palin did. He was able to vacation in Pakistan at a time when Americans weren't allowed entry into that nation. That is quite a trick and I wish we had a free and independent media in America that would have looked into this amazing feat.

    Posted by BIG

    2009-09-23 13:29:58

    Yet another lie from the Right, at no time in the 80's was Pakistan off limits to Americans, it may have been difficult to get in but there were not travel restrictions on Americans, nice try though.

  • CoolCzech

    Guys, when you get ready to listen to snippets of Bambi's UN America Betrayal Speech… brace yourselves.

    Not for the faint of heart.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:47:44

    Prove it.

  • whats_up

    Sarah Palin stated that you can see Russia from parts of Alaska, which is perfectly true.

    Posted by CavalierX

    2009-09-23 13:41:19

    Yep it is true, now how does this qualify her as having foreign policy experience?

  • CoolCzech

    Yep it is true, now how does this qualify her as having foreign policy experience?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:48:42

    What foreign policy experience, exactly, did village idiot Bill Clinton have from the Arkansas State House?

    Don't even get me started on Bambi's ACORN Foreign Policy experience.

  • whats_up

    Posted by bthewolf

    2009-09-23 13:25:33

    Damn are you clueless, do you really need to go over the Gibson interview again, really, you werent embarrased enough the first time?

  • CoolCzech

    whats_up,

    YOU are supporting an anti-American leftist radical tear up America as the world's leading nation… in fact, that fracker just declared in the UN that America is "no better" than Communit China or Cuba.

    Please do NOT talk about "embarrassing yourself."

  • TheBaud

    Yep it is true, now how does this qualify her as having foreign policy experience?

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 13:48:42

    How does Obama's claim that there are 57 states in the U.S.A. qualify him to be President?

  • CoolCzech

    Oh, I forgot: Bill Clinton wasn't a village idiot, he was the "most brilliant President EVER!" Until Obama became the "most brilliant President EVER!" I suppose in between, Kerry must have been the "most brilliant candidate EVER!"

    How come so many "brilliant" Democrats are nothing but common women molestors, liars, America-haters, or Commies?

  • whats_up

    YOU are supporting an anti-American leftist radical tear up America as the world's leading nation

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 13:52:40

    No actually I am supporting my liberal President, which you seem to think makes him un-american, the question is why do you think that those who dont agree with you politically are "un-american", pretty arrogant point of view there.

  • whats_up

    How come so many "brilliant" Democrats are nothing but common women molestors, liars, America-haters, or Commies?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 13:56:04

    Because like their Republican counterparts they are only human.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Yep it is true, now how does this qualify her as having foreign policy experience?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:48:42

    Who said she did? What has been said was that Palin had more executive experience than Biden and Obama added together. She did a better job as Governor of Alaska in her shortened term than Obama will do as POTUS, based on the fact we face a $2 trillion deficit, 10% unemployment (officially), and a degrading of respect internationally, accept for the lovefest from thugs for Obama.

    Again, thanks for presenting your flawed arguments.

  • CoolCzech

    Now, now, TheBaud, Obama was just BRILLIANT as the Editor of the Harvard law journal!

    And quite the editor he must have been, for a guy that chides George Stephenopoulis for actually cracking open a dictionary, for crying out loud!

  • whats_up

    Please do NOT talk about "embarrassing yourself."

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 13:52:40

    No if I was going to do that I would run my mouth off with political predictions, how did those PUMAS do last time their CC?

  • D-Vega

    This is an interesting situation.

    Sarah Palin getting a big paycheck for traveling to a communist totalitarian country to speak to capitalists about how socialistic America has gotten.

    Bad mouthing America to foreigners who are only interested in making money off of the backs of the unfree Chinese people.

    Nice.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Damn are you clueless, do you really need to go over the Gibson interview again, really, you werent embarrased enough the first time?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:50:50

    Well since she claimed that you can see Russia from PARTS of Alaska, and that is actually true, what did she that was wrong or bad? And hate to say it but that's as much or more FPE than YOU or Obambi have.

  • TheBaud

    the question is why do you think that those who dont agree with you politically are "un-american", pretty arrogant point of view there.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 13:56:27

    Again with the 'Projection'. You shoudl really get that checked, whats_up!

  • CoolCzech

    I didn't say "un-American," whats_up: I said ANTI-American. And if there was ANY doubt about that, his UN Agitprop Exercise compeltely dispelled it.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    the question is why do you think that those who dont agree with you politically are "un-american", pretty arrogant point of view there.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:56:27

    Because of their words and actions.

  • CoolCzech

    No if I was going to do that I would run my mouth off with political predictions, how did those PUMAS do last time their CC?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:58:13

    About as well as Kerry did back in 2004, whats_up.

  • whats_up

    Well since she claimed that you can see Russia from PARTS of Alaska, and that is actually true, what did she that was wrong or bad?

    Posted by bthewolf

    2009-09-23 13:58:44

    She didnt do anything wrong persay, she answered a question on foreign policy and what the Russians were thinking with the answer that you can see Russia from Alaska, wrong no, simple minded and idiotic yes.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Bad mouthing America

    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Reminder that whats_up, aka crthns, is a sockpuppet of M88tha. And another poster who was just here the other day.

  • whats_up

    Because of their words and actions.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 13:59:37

    Right Dick, because they dont support your politics that makes them unamerican. Well the arragance of conservatives is on full display today.

  • CoolCzech

    Nice.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 13:58:16

    Almost as nice as Obama espousing Chinese communist propaganda points during his speech to the UN, wouldn't you say?

    Or his eat-shit smile as he bumped fists with Hugo Chavez (D-Venezuela)?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Well the arragance of conservatives is on full display today.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 14:02:53

    Sure thing, m88tha.

  • TheBaud

    She didnt do anything wrong persay, she answered a question on foreign policy and what the Russians were thinking with the answer that you can see Russia from Alaska, wrong no, simple minded and idiotic yes.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 14:00:56

    So again, whats_up. If that one answer to a question in an interview is all you need to know about Palin and her foreign policy experience, then it should be equally true that Obama's claim of 57 states in the U.S.A. makes him unqualified to be President. You are consistent, aren't you?

  • whats_up

    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 14:01:15

    Unless its directed at Conservatives and then those that are dissenting are called traitors and anti-american, interesting.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    No actually I am supporting my liberal President,

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 13:56:27

    You still haven't explained why you voted for a quitter, w_u.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Right Dick, because they dont support your politics that makes them unamerican.

    Loving your country is not political. Except on the left, where said love of country is very weak. The loathing of the US is strong on the left, however.

  • CoolCzech

    "…she answered a question on foreign policy and what the Russians were thinking with the answer that you can see Russia from Alaska, wrong no, simple minded and idiotic yes."

    Posted by whats_up

    gee, whats_up, I didn't realize it was such a mental reach for you Simply BRILLIANT Leftist Looney Tunes to grasp that Palin meant being the governor of a state that actually borders on Russia made her more acutely aware of the importance of following Russian-US affairs.

    But I guess fretting about Global Warming during one of the coldest years on record does that to the Brilliant Mind.

  • CoolCzech

    BTW, "persay" is actually Latin and properly spelled, "per se." Two words.

    Just sayin'. Don't mean nuttin' by it…

  • D-Vega

    Palin meant being the governor of a state that actually borders on Russia made her more acutely aware of the importance of following Russian-US affairs

    That doesn't make any sense really.

    Alaska doesn't border Russia anymore than Florida borders Mexico. She was no more aware of Russian-US affairs than anyone on this site.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    gee, whats_up, I didn't realize it was such a mental reach for you

    "2+2" is a mental reach for w_u.

  • CoolCzech

    Alaska doesn't border Russia anymore than Florida borders Mexico. She was no more aware of Russian-US affairs than anyone on this site.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 14:11:06

    Maybe, mayb not, though the US/Russian boundary lies in the waters off the shore of Alaska. She didn't say "borders," she said you could literally see Russia from parts of Alaska, which pretty much makes the same point.

    EVERYONE including the Left knew EXACTLY what she meant, though naturally the Left continues to disingenously pretend it didn't 'cause that makes it easier to deride her.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    simple minded and idiotic yes.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 14:00:56

    Projection at it's finest!!!!

    Palin meant being the governor of a state that actually borders on Russia made her more acutely aware of the importance of following Russian-US affairs.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 14:07:52

    That says it all!

  • TheBaud

    Alaska doesn't border Russia anymore than Florida borders Mexico. She was no more aware of Russian-US affairs than anyone on this site.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 14:11:06

    Interesting analogy, D-Vega, since Florida is no where near Mexico. I guess if you used two areas that are actually close to each other, like Texas/Mexico or Florida/Cuba, it would further illustrate how valid CoolCzech's point is and how ignorant you are.

  • CoolCzech

    D-Vega, you don't think that the Governor of Florida has, just perhaps, a better perspective on American-Cuban affairs than, say, the Governor of Idaho?

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    She was no more aware of Russian-US affairs than anyone on this site.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 14:11:06

    I'd say knowing what your neighbors are doing is part of the job. Not doing so would be stupid, like the governor of LA not paying attention to the weather during hurricane season.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    I lived in Ft. Lauderdale during the 1980 Mariel boat lift and the Florida government was heavily involved, including foreign policy. It was legitimate since this was a state matter.

    Don't forget, Alaska does border with Canada which means you can see Canada from Alaska. (rolls eyes)

  • D-Vega

    Or Canada from NY.

    The point is, being close to another country doesn't mean you have any special insight into foreign affairs.

    Instead of answering it that way, she should have given an example. Seeing Russia from a distance is meaningless.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Instead of answering it that way, she should have given an example. Seeing Russia from a distance is meaningless.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 15:04:42

    I like her answer as-is. It annoys you more which is a definite plus.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    one thing Palin did not do today, unlike Obama, is throw the Israeli's under the bus. Obamam denounced their settlements in their territory, stating that the US does not recognize their right to their own land.

    Shooting war in the Middle East withing 12 months. 2.5 to one a nuke gets used in it.

    Bank on it.

  • whats_up

    You still haven't explained why you voted for a quitter, w_u.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-09-23 14:04:09

    I didnt, I voted for the winner, and you?

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    she should have given an example. Seeing Russia from a distance is meaningless.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 15:04:42

    In other words you're going to act like a whiny crybaby and nitpick any answer she gives.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    I didnt, I voted for the winner, and you?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:13:51

    Really? Obama won the Senate? Tell that to the press.

  • whats_up

    that Palin meant being the governor of a state that actually borders on Russia made her more acutely aware of the importance of following Russian-US affairs.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 14:14:39

    So now we can add mind reading abilities to your resume along with political predictions. If Palin had meant that, then she would have said that, but she didnt. Thanks for playing.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    there goes crthns with his world famous circular argument.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Thanks for playing.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:16:27

    Now you steal lines, crthnsfwankiem88thabrighthorizonsrealpolitik

  • whats_up

    In other words you're going to act like a whiny crybaby and nitpick any answer she gives.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-09-23 15:14:07

    No we would like to have at least give an intelligent answer, one with a little thought to it, but Palin struggled with that simple concept. Reminds me of her "true american" gaffe in Virginia, not well thought out and simple minded. Worked real well for her, oh wait no it didnt.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 15:16:27

    Still waiting on your answer whats_up.

  • http://quantum-kitty.blogspot.com/ simulacre

    D-Vega,

    Don't take this stand you look like an idiot. Canada is a friendly neighbor, while Russia is anything but a friend. A simple Google search will show you some of the things an Alaskan Governor (as Johnny or Jane on the spot) would have to deal with having a neighbor like Russia:

    http://bit.ly/o7FuL

    http://bit.ly/1a7R1E

    http://bit.ly/3c6K9

    http://bit.ly/ZRMfv

    your ignorance is no excuse for your insolence…

  • whats_up

    I'd say knowing what your neighbors are doing is part of the job. Not doing so would be stupid, like the governor of LA not paying attention to the weather during hurricane season.

    Posted by bthewolf

    2009-09-23 14:37:48

    You would think so, evidently Palin struggled with that concept.

  • whats_up

    D-Vega, you don't think that the Governor of Florida has, just perhaps, a better perspective on American-Cuban affairs than, say, the Governor of Idaho?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 14:19:20

    I would expect that he would, and then would be able to verbalize that, not say that he could see Cuba from an island in Florida.

  • TheBaud

    I would expect that he would, and then would be able to verbalize that, not say that he could see Cuba from an island in Florida.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 15:20:30

    So you concede that she does have the necessary foreign policy experience, and you just didn't like the way she answered the question. Good to know.

    Do you feel the same way about Barak "57 States" Obama?

  • http://quantum-kitty.blogspot.com/ simulacre

    D-Vega,

    Quit being obtuse. Canada is a friendly neighbor, while Russia is anything but a friend. A simple Google search will show you some of the things an Alaskan Governor (as Johnny or Jane on the spot) would have to deal with having a neighbor like Russia:

    http:

    //bit.ly/o7FuL

    //bit.ly/1a7R1E

    //bit.ly/3c6K9

    //bit.ly/ZRMfv

    your ignorance is no excuse for your insolence…

  • D-Vega

    I like her answer as-is. It annoys you more which is a definite plus.

    That's fine. I wouldn't have liked her answer, since it made her a laughing stock because of Tina Fey, and didn't address the question she was given.

    AND, she lost the election. So like her answer all you want.

    In other words you're going to act like a whiny crybaby and nitpick any answer she gives.

    You guys are no position to accuse anyone of nitpicking, considering that everytime Obama takes a crap, there's a conservative blogger there to check how much paper he used.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    No we would like to have at least give an intelligent answer,

    Unlike you that's been proven wrong here so many times.

    one with a little thought to it, but Palin struggled with that simple concept.

    You mean, like struggling to answer a question on the 13th Amendment? LOL!

    Reminds me of her "true american" gaffe in Virginia, not well thought out and simple minded. Worked real well for her, oh wait no it didnt.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:18:00

    Was that the one where Obama claimed that there were 57 states? or was that the location where Obama claimed to see 'so many of our fallen heroes.' Obama's a walking gaffe-machine without his teleprompter.

  • CoolCzech

    If Palin had meant that, then she would have said that, but she didnt. Thanks for playing.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:16:27

    Leave it to you to not get an obvious figure of speech.

    Most everybody knew exactly what she meant.

  • TheBaud

    You guys are no position to accuse anyone of nitpicking, considering that everytime Obama takes a crap, there's a conservative blogger there to check how much paper he used.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 15:22:47

    A better and much more accurate analogy would be that Obama addresses a joint session of Congress and told them that the biggest problem facing the world today is people using too much paper when they crap; and that he is going to demand that people use no more than two sheet per person per crap. Then, he would step to the Congressional men's room, use four full rolls of paper for his 'business', and have the media fawn over him for being such an ecologically aware President, with a few Conservatives bloggers pointing out his abject hypocrisy.

    Glad to have fixed that for you.

  • whats_up

    Most everybody knew exactly what she meant.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 15:24:31

    Yes they did and it shows, thanks for admitting that.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    AND, she lost the election.

    No, dumbfuck, McCain lost the election. Palin made it somewhat close. If you are going to like about this, wait til later when Nixon is out of pocket. But, this sort of bullshit won't get a free pass today. Again, McCain got beat, Palin made it somewhat close. Deal with it, dufus.

  • CoolCzech

    You guys are no position to accuse anyone of nitpicking, considering that everytime Obama takes a crap, there's a conservative blogger there to check how much paper he used.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 15:22:47

    Well, he took a pretty BIG ONE at the UN today, wouldn't you say?

    Tell me, D-Vega: what bothers you lefties so much about America being the world's leading nation? Why SO much joy tearing down your own country at every opportunity?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    remind us again why Palin quit,

    $500,000 in personal legal fees defending bogus ethics complaints. Unlike Obama, Palin didn't have George Soros' money behind her to pay them.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 13:39:44

    Never heard from you on this issue, crthns.

  • CoolCzech

    Yes they did and it shows, thanks for admitting that.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:28:31

    There you go again, confusing Sarah with Tina Fey… do you get ALL your opinion from SNL?

  • whats_up

    So you concede that she does have the necessary foreign policy experience, and you just didn't like the way she answered the question. Good to know.

    Do you feel the same way about Barak "57 States" Obama?

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 15:22:14

    No I dont concede that, I would expect her to, that doesnt mean she does however, I have yet to hear her give a good answer on foreign affairs period, but continue to support her, feel free, hope that goes well for you.

  • whats_up

    Never heard from you on this issue, crthns.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 15:30:08

    So it got tough and she quit, well it gets alot tougher at the national level. If she cant handle Alaska, what makes you think that she can handle the national level?

  • TheBaud

    Never heard from you on this issue, crthns.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon 2009-09-23 15:30:08

    Not sure who crthns is, but I have noticed that whats_up will simply pretend not to notice people that ask him tough questions or asks him for proof. I guess actual thought is too much for him… or her.

  • CoolCzech

    I have yet to hear her give a good answer on foreign affairs period, but continue to support her, feel free, hope that goes well for you.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:30:43

    By amazing coincidence, whatsup, I have yet to hear Obama give a good answer on anything, much less foreign policy.

    What's his Afghanistan policy, again??

  • whats_up

    There you go again, confusing Sarah with Tina Fey… do you get ALL your opinion from SNL?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 15:30:40

    Actually I enjoy listening to Sarah more, its a more humorous, none of its scripted. My favorite was the news report from Alaska about how she was going to pardon a turkey while they killed one in the background, you cant make this stuff up, classic!

  • TheBaud

    No I dont concede that, I would expect her to, that doesnt mean she does however, I have yet to hear her give a good answer on foreign affairs period, but continue to support her, feel free, hope that goes well for you.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 15:30:43

    You just conceded that, whats_up. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    So it got tough and she quit, well it gets alot tougher at the national level. If she cant handle Alaska, what makes you think that she can handle the national level?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:31:47

    You mean liberal Democratic operative will continue to file bogus eithics complaints costing the Palin's a half million of their hard earned dollars in legal fees? No renouncing the bogus ethics barrage from the left, typical morons that they are. Only the left can practice the politics of personal destruction so well, since they can't beat the message, they can only (attempt) to discredit the messenger.

  • whats_up

    You just conceded that, whats_up. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 15:33:58

    Please point out where i "conceded" that, we will wait patiently.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 15:33:58

    Both times he was lying.

  • whats_up

    You mean liberal Democratic operative will continue to file bogus eithics complaints costing the Palin's a half million of their hard earned dollars in legal fees? No renouncing the bogus ethics barrage from the left, typical morons that they are. Only the left can practice the politics of personal destruction so well, since they can't beat the message, they can only (attempt) to discredit the messenger.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 15:34:06

    No I mean like filing bogus suits in mulitiple courts over a birth certificate that is legal and costing the US taxpayers millions of dollars to defend such nonesense, kind of like those birthers on the right are doing.

  • TheBaud

    Please point out where i "conceded" that, we will wait patiently.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 15:35:09

    You said the governor of Florida would understand US/Cuba relationships. So then the governor of Alaska should understand US/Russia relationships.

  • CoolCzech

    "…about how she was going to pardon a turkey while they killed one in the background, you cant make this stuff up, classic!"

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:33:41

    In a way, I agree with you: I don't know what was funnier – how excited liberals got, like little kids looking at a Playboy, or how the Left was shocked to learn to discover that the Turkey they eat for Thanksgiving is actually slaughtered. LOL!

  • whats_up

    You said the governor of Florida would understand US/Cuba relationships. So then the governor of Alaska should understand US/Russia relationships.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 15:36:39

    You're right she SHOULD, however when asked about that relationiship her answer was about seeing Russia from land in Alaska, again classic!

  • CoolCzech

    So, uh, whats_up: what's Obama's Afghanistan policy again?

    And exactly WHAT sort of national healthcare reform does Obama want? Which bill, exactly, does HE support?

    I submit Sarah's Afghanistan policy is crystal clear: Victory.

    And she's already given far clearer answers on healthcare than Obama has.

  • TheBaud

    You're right she SHOULD, however when asked about that relationiship her answer was about seeing Russia from land in Alaska, again classic!

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 15:38:07

    You gave the benefit of the doubt to one governor, but not the other? And you base that all on a single answer in one interview? How pathetically biased can one individual be.

    I suppose you also consider Obama unqualified to be President based upon his 57 state comments, too.

  • CoolCzech

    I suppose you also consider Obama unqualified to be President based upon his 57 state comments, too.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 15:39:53

    Well… it WAS sort of a clue that we might not be dealing with the brightest bulb on the Christmas Tree…

  • CoolCzech

    I suppose if PALIN had mentioned "57 states," whats_up would call that "classic," too?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    No I mean like filing bogus suits in mulitiple courts over a birth certificate that is legal and costing the US taxpayers millions of dollars to defend such nonesense, kind of like those birthers on the right are doing.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:36:37

    Point me out to the millions of dollars spent by the taxpayers.

    You are ok with the public paying that expense, yet when the Palin's have to do so with their own money, you are ok with that. Typical liberal hypocrisy in action.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Obama's policy toward Russia is one of appeasement.

  • CoolCzech

    No I mean like filing bogus suits in mulitiple courts over a birth certificate that is legal and costing the US taxpayers millions of dollars to defend such nonesense, kind of like those birthers on the right are doing.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:36:37

    And all Obama has to do to save the taxpayers all those millions is simply release his original long form birth certificate.

    But he won't, because "he doesn't have to." No better reason than that, nevermind what he called "precious tax dollars."

    In my book, that's pretty F-ed up and Self-Centered. Not to mention deeply disturbing and utterly indefensible.

  • whats_up

    You gave the benefit of the doubt to one governor, but not the other? And you base that all on a single answer in one interview? How pathetically biased can one individual be.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 15:39:53

    No actually I have heard the governor of Florida speak on Cuban American relations so I know that he has some semblance of what is going on, again when Palin was asked we all heard her answer.

  • CoolCzech

    Obama's policy towards Afghanistan seems to be rapidly devolving into DEFEAT. But he's too chickenshit to either make up his mind, or just say so.

    "Present!"

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    No I mean like filing bogus suits in mulitiple courts over a birth certificate that is legal and costing the US taxpayers millions of dollars to defend such nonesense, kind of like those birthers on the right are doing.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:36:37

    So….you're admitting that the requests from the MSM against McCain to provide his birth record was bogus?

    Interesting how quiet you were on the subject. I guess that makes you a birther as well.

  • TheBaud

    again when Palin was asked we all heard her answer.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 15:47:07

    And we heard Obama's thoughts on how many states there are in the United States. And you are still too scared to comment on that, aren't you!

  • CoolCzech

    "…again when Palin was asked we all heard her answer".

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:47:07

    Sarah was answering a question during a hostile interview, not giving a long speech in front of a civil audience. There IS a difference, ya know. Just look at how badly Obama can stumble without his teleprompter.

  • D-Vega

    No, dumbfuck, McCain lost the election. Palin made it somewhat close. If you are going to like about this, wait til later when Nixon is out of pocket. But, this sort of bullshit won't get a free pass today. Again, McCain got beat, Palin made it somewhat close. Deal with it, dufus.

    No, Nixon. She lost. It was the McCain/Palin ticket. That means she lost. That means she has been as successful at national politics as John Edwards.

    She may be popular with the base & a former governor, but so was Howard Dean.

    I'm not going to predict her future. She may be the next President, but for right now she is a proven loser.

  • whats_up

    You are ok with the public paying that expense, yet when the Palin's have to do so with their own money, you are ok with that. Typical liberal hypocrisy in action.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 15:43:18

    Not at all, its too bad that Alaska law doesnt allow for the state to pay for those costs and that is something that should be addressed. That doesnt change the fact that when it got hot, Palin bailed, not for another job, not to go to a presidential appt, she simply bailed.

  • CoolCzech

    She may be the next President, but for right now she is a proven loser.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 15:49:52

    You mean like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton and John Kerry?

    I don't see anyone on right as obsessively frightened of one woman no longer even in office as you lefties are of Sarah Palin.

    I wonder why?

  • TheBaud

    but for right now she is a proven loser.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 15:49:52

    You on the Left sure do obsess a lot over this 'proven loser'.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    That doesnt change the fact that when it got hot, Palin bailed, not for another job, not to go to a presidential appt, she simply bailed.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:51:11

    So you are ok with a politician being forced out from almost going bankrupt over bogus claims made by a Democratic Operative?

    Nice to know you hate democracy.

  • CoolCzech

    History may well record that Obama's precious dream of Cuban-style healthcare was destroyed by two simple words from a Proven Loser Palin, D-Vega:

    "Death panels."

    Sounds like a Winner, to me.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    but for right now she is a proven loser.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 15:49:52

    So you are saying that she had no positive impact on the campaign? you really don't follow politics on the right closely.

  • D-Vega

    You mean like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton and John Kerry?

    Yes. At least Gore was a VP though. But John Kerry & Clinton? There was a reason why they lost.

    I don't see anyone on right as obsessively frightened of one woman no longer even in office as you lefties are of Sarah Palin.

    The only one who is obsessed with Palin is the right. The title of this post is "Sarah Palin v. Barack Obama".

    Palin didn't mention Obama specifically, as far as I know.

    Conservatives are the ones obsessed with their "Great Right Hope."

    Maybe she should at least win a primary state before she is christened the nominee. There was nothing in her speech today that is noteworthy. "We’re not interested in government fixes, we’re interested in freedom." Who isn't interested in freedom? The Chinese?

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    but for right now she is a proven loser.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 15:49:52

    Typical leftist sexist remark. I guess Vega thinks that any woman is a "loser" who doesn't do what they supposed to do.

    Don't complain Vega. If we're racists for opposing Obama then you're sexist for opposing Palin.

  • D-Vega

    So you are saying that she had no positive impact on the campaign? you really don't follow politics on the right closely.

    So the best you can say about her is that McCain would have lost by more if not for her? Like I said, no more successful than John Edwards.

    That's a revolutionary right there. Maybe she can lose by a little in 2012 and consider it a success.

    What if Joe Lieberman would have run with McCain, something that he wanted, instead of Palin? You think McCain would have lost by more? Or won the whole shebang?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    You think McCain would have lost by more? Or won the whole shebang?

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:03:09

    Yes, McCain would have lost by more. Conservatives did not like McCain. Republican does not automatically equal conservative, you are aware of that aren't you?

  • CoolCzech

    The Chinese?

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 15:59:13

    The Chinese COMMUNIST government?

    You think they ARE interested in freedom? Their freedom to invade Taiwan, wipe out the Tibetans, and lock up dissidents, maybe…

  • D-Vega

    Typical leftist sexist remark. I guess Vega thinks that any woman is a "loser" who doesn't do what they supposed to do.

    When a woman fails at an election, she is a loser. There is a winner and there is a loser. Hillary was a loser. And she got a consolation prize. But she is still a loser. Whether she has a penis or not is irrelevant.

    Don't complain Vega. If we're racists for opposing Obama then you're sexist for opposing Palin.

    I don't oppose Palin. I think the hero worship, and the accusations of sexism, and the identity politics she played, sure smacks of hypocrisy though.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    So the best you can say about her is that McCain would have lost by more if not for her?

    What else is the VP nominee supposed to do? Win the whole thing for the ticket?

  • CoolCzech

    Well, for a Loser she sure wiped Obama's clock on "the Public Option," didn't she?

    The poor guy's been hitting the talk and late night circuit ever since… to no avail.

  • TheBaud

    What if Joe Lieberman would have run with McCain, something that he wanted, instead of Palin? You think McCain would have lost by more? Or won the whole shebang?

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 16:03:09

    A lot of 'what ifs' in there. No way to know what would have happened. But the obsession is plain to see here. You on the Left constantly talk about the election in terms of Obama and Palin. Even though McCain was the nominee and running for President, it was Palin that lost. And Palin didn;t lose to Biden, she lost to Obama.

    Is is hilarious watching the Left twitch with fear everytime her name comes up. How does it feel to have this loser besting you on the healthcare debate, D-Vega?

  • D-Vega

    The Chinese COMMUNIST government? You think they ARE interested in freedom? Their freedom to invade Taiwan, wipe out the Tibetans, and lock up dissidents, maybe…

    Thanks, Czech. So then I'll ask you, what the heck is Sarah Palin giving a speech in China, criticizing the US for gov't interference, talking about the lack of "freedom" in the US, while accepting a fat paycheck?

  • CoolCzech

    I think the hero worship, and the accusations of sexism, and the identity politics she played, sure smacks of hypocrisy though.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:05:45

    You SURE you're not confusing her with The One, D-Vega?

    I don't remember anyone callig her the Messiah. I don't recall Nazi-style propaganda art of her image. I don't recall her saying she should be elected because "I may not look like the others on your dollar bills!

    And I sure as hell don't recall MSNBC, Nancy Pelosi, or Jimmy Carter making blanket assertions that anyone that opposes Palin's policy ideas are sexists or Nazis.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    while accepting a fat paycheck?

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:08:42

    So now you oppose a private citizen working for a living. People like you ran her out of office with bogus ethics claims, costing her and her family $500,000 in legal fess, and now you oppose her making a honest living. Please vega, make up your mind.

  • CoolCzech

    Thanks, Czech. So then I'll ask you, what the heck is Sarah Palin giving a speech in China, criticizing the US for gov't interference, talking about the lack of "freedom" in the US, while accepting a fat paycheck?

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:08:42

    She was doing something Obama can't bring himself to do… something he doesn't even believe in, D-Vaga: she went abroad to spread American Values, and loudly proclaiming America the Shining City on A Hill.

    Meanwhile, that pile of turds we have by way of a President just announced at the UN that there is NOTHING better about America than China or Libya or Iran or Venezuela. Shame on him.

  • CoolCzech

    Tell me, D-Vega: does Obama believe that America is Mankind's Last Best Hope?

    He sure has a funny way of showing it, considering he's been called the New Lincoln by the ball-licking Left.

  • D-Vega

    How does it feel to have this loser besting you on the healthcare debate, D-Vega?

    How is she doing that? The biggest obstacle to the bill is Moderate Democrats, not Sarah Palin.

    No one is afraid of Sarah Palin. Its all a ruse to build more and more support for her. Claim victimhood, book another appearance.

    And I never said anything about Obama v. Palin. The title of this post did. Because Palin is the Great Right Hope due to the extreme lack of any leadership coming from Reps.

    So the formula works this way – the right swoons over Palin and her latest generic conservo-speak, the left ridicules it, the right says we are obsessed with her, the left laughs, she books another speech.

  • CoolCzech

    "How is she doing that? The biggest obstacle to the bill is Moderate Democrats, not Sarah Palin."

    don't tell us, D-Vega: Maureen Dowd was the one that said so.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    The biggest obstacle to the bill is Moderate Democrats, not Sarah Palin.

    Thus explaining Obama's monitoring of her Facebook page. And inferring about her in his BS session with the congress.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    I think the hero worship,

    Do you really want to go there about Obama's hero worship, Vega? You alone were willing to kiss Obama's ass anytime during the campaign.

    and the accusations of sexism,

    Change "sexism" to "racism" and you fit Obama perfectly.

    and the identity politics she played, sure smacks of hypocrisy though.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:05:45

    You realize that you've identified Obama again.

    Idiot.

  • CoolCzech

    If I remember, he essentially called her and Republicans and 9I guess) Blue Dog Democrats Liars.

    How uncivil of him.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    it was Palin that lost. And Palin didn;t lose to Biden, she lost to Obama.

    Interesting point. Biden's not in the picture from the left's point of view.

    This is pure hatred, plain and simple because they're afraid of Palin.

    No one is afraid of Sarah Palin.</i.

    This coming from Vega, a proven liar. Of course you're going to say that Vega because your arrogance prohibits you from telling the truth. When you bitch and whine whether anyone can see Russia from Alaska, it is obvious that you're afraid. Hell, you're bitching about Palin taking a "fat paycheck" while Michael Moore rakes in money attacking capitalism. When is George Soros or any Hollywood leftist going to give away their money? Obama is very rich, when will he give away his fortune?

    Dumbass.

  • http://www.2008news.com jimg

    costing the US taxpayers millions of dollars – crthns

    … says the lazy-assed public school teacher who spends his entire workday trolling political websites.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Thanks, Czech. So then I'll ask you, what the heck is Sarah Palin giving a speech in China, criticizing the US for gov't interference, talking about the lack of "freedom" in the US, while accepting a fat paycheck?

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:08:42

    What's wrong with that? Obama's been getting a "big fat paycheck" criticizing other wealthy people for not giving "their fair share" to the poor.

    Same with George Soros.

    Same with Michael Moore.

    Same with Al Gore.

    Same with Bill Clinton.

    Do I need to go on?

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    costing the US taxpayers millions of dollars to defend such nonesense,

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 15:36:37

    Yeah, it's not like the Obama administration authorized Air Force 1 to fly over the Statue of Liberty without informing NY authorities ahead of time, costing millions as a result.

    Gee, nobody would be THAT stupid! :-P

  • D-Vega

    She was doing something Obama can't bring himself to do… something he doesn't even believe in, D-Vaga: she went abroad to spread American Values, and loudly proclaiming America the Shining City on A Hill.

    Hold on a second. Obama has time & time again spread American values to the world, as a candidate & President.

    What Palin did today was talk her country down. If John Edwards went to a communist country and criticized American policies, I'm sure you guys would be shitting bananas.

    Meanwhile, that pile of turds we have by way of a President just announced at the UN that there is NOTHING better about America than China or Libya or Iran or Venezuela. Shame on him.

    You don't really know what you are talking about, Czech. Maybe you should actually read/view the speech instead of following the reactionary talking points.

  • TheBaud

    So the formula works this way – the right swoons over Palin and her latest generic conservo-speak, the left ridicules it, the right says we are obsessed with her, the left laughs, she books another speech.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 16:14:12

    Are you serious? You have no clue about history, do you?

    Sarah Palin energizes Conservatives. The Left attacks her children and her personally. Palin fights back, so the Left gets more vicious. The Right continus to support her. The Left whines "We're not obssessed!"

    So when you post repeatedly that she is a loser and not a part of the deabte, you are only trying to convince yourself. You and the rest of the Left are spending an inordinate amount of time trying to destroy this supposed loser and quitter that doesn't matter.

  • whats_up

    Sarah was answering a question during a hostile interview, not giving a long speech in front of a civil audience. There IS a difference, ya know. Just look at how badly Obama can stumble without his teleprompter.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 15:49:39

    A hostile interview? Really, lets review that "hostile" question:

    GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

    PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

    Wow, what a hostile question.

  • TheBaud

    Hold on a second. Obama has time & time again spread American values to the world, as a candidate & President.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 16:38:36

    So in your world, American Values are pissing off out allies, kissing the asses of our enemies, apologizing for the crime of being an American, and generally turning your back on everything in the past 200+ years that have made us the superpower and beacon of freedom that we are?

    D-Vega, you are a whole different kind of stupid!

  • whats_up

    And I never said anything about Obama v. Palin. The title of this post did. Because Palin is the Great Right Hope due to the extreme lack of any leadership coming from Reps.

    Vega, thats funny, she came in second to Huckabee recently in a straw poll, I dont know right now if she is even the great right hope.

  • TheBaud

    Wow, what a hostile question.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 16:42:35

    Hostile INTERVIEW, you idiot. Learn to read!

  • D-Vega

    So in your world, American Values are pissing off out allies, kissing the asses of our enemies, apologizing for the crime of being an American, and generally turning your back on everything in the past 200+ years that have made us the superpower and beacon of freedom that we are?

    No, but why would you ask that? Obama never did any of those things.

    The only speech that was anti-American today, was Sarah Palin's speech.

  • whats_up

    So you are ok with a politician being forced out from almost going bankrupt over bogus claims made by a Democratic Operative?

    Nice to know you hate democracy.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 15:54:05

    She wasnt forced out Nixon, she quit, it got to rough for her, she couldnt handle it anymore so she left.

  • TheBaud

    No, but why would you ask that? Obama never did any of those things.

    The only speech that was anti-American today, was Sarah Palin's speech.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 16:46:12

    OK, a whole different kind of stupid AND disconnected from reality. Glad you cleare that up.

  • whats_up

    Hostile INTERVIEW, you idiot. Learn to read!

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 16:44:54

    Oh those tough questions, by all means since the transcript is readily availabe please share with us how this interview was hostile, this ought to be fun.

  • D-Vega

    Only for Sarah Palin is any interview NOT kissing her ass a hostile interview.

    Gibson treated her with kid gloves.

    What's she gonna do? Tweet her way to the Presidency?

    At some point she's not going to be able to have such thin-skin, and you all are going to have to stop getting your panties in a bunch.

  • TheBaud

    Oh those tough questions, by all means since the transcript is readily availabe please share with us how this interview was hostile, this ought to be fun.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 16:48:15

    I got a better idea, whats_up. Let's look at the difference between that interview and the interviews by the same person with Biden or Obama. Any questions in there about their foreign policy or political experience? Nope, too busy trying to find out what ice cream they liked.

  • jasamc

    Wow, what a hostile question.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 16:42:35

    You obviously didn't watch the video, and catch Gibson's tone. He was an ass. Let me give you an example:

    "Gee, whats_up, you're brillant."

    Now, just reading the words, it seems like a pretty benign thing to say. But my tone, heard here in this room, makes it clear that you are an inbred, mouthbreathing moron who had the rotten luck to be the illegitimate love child of Andrea Dworkin and Barney Frank.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    She wasnt forced out Nixon, she quit, it got to rough for her, she couldnt handle it anymore so she left.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 16:47:13

    Half a million dollars to defend against bogus ethics complaints. Again, you ignore that fact.

  • D-Vega

    That was a question for Obama throughout the campaign, Baud. You're just not paying attention.

    Not only was Obama interview tons of times, but also had nearly 20 debates against the other Dems, including Hillary Clinton who beat him with the experience line over and over.

    Sarah Palin has two interviews and can't cut it. Not because the questions were so tough, but because the answers were so weak.

    Personally, I don't dislike Palin, even though she doesn't consider me a real American. But yes, the hero worship is nauseating. Not only hasn't she won a damn thing in the "lower 48", but she drove away tons of suburban Americans who were formerly urban dwellers in Florida, Pennsylvania & Ohio.

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 16:50:21

    By all means lets compare, what questions do you feel where asked of Obama that were softballs that werent asked of Palin?

  • jasamc

    So in your world, American Values are pissing off out allies, kissing the asses of our enemies, apologizing for the crime of being an American, and generally turning your back on everything in the past 200+ years that have made us the superpower and beacon of freedom that we are?

    Those are Vega's values. He sees America as a bad place, filled with hateful people. So B Hussein is merely echoing what is in Vega's heart in the first place.

    D-Vega, you are a whole different kind of stupid!

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-23 16:43:56

    Man, I hope you aren't just figuring that out. That boy lies every thread – he lies about lying in the very thread he was lying in!

  • whats_up

    Now, just reading the words, it seems like a pretty benign thing to say. But my tone, heard here in this room, makes it clear that you are an inbred, mouthbreathing moron who had the rotten luck to be the illegitimate love child of Andrea Dworkin and Barney Frank.

    Posted by jasamc

    2009-09-23 16:53:58

    So now we are whining about the tone of the question, really it was so tough for her from one interview and you think that she can handle the real world, your fantasy land just gets bigger and bigger doesnt it. How would Palin handle the real world if she cant handle easy questions from that big bad Charlie Gibson, too funny!!

  • whats_up

    Half a million dollars to defend against bogus ethics complaints. Again, you ignore that fact.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 16:54:26

    Like I said the going got tough and she quit, thats all we need to know.

  • TheBaud

    Sarah Palin has two interviews and can't cut it. Not because the questions were so tough, but because the answers were so weak.

    Personally, I don't dislike Palin, even though she doesn't consider me a real American. But yes, the hero worship is nauseating. Not only hasn't she won a damn thing in the "lower 48", but she drove away tons of suburban Americans who were formerly urban dwellers in Florida, Pennsylvania & Ohio.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 16:54:48

    Here answers were not weak and she made Gibson look like the jerk that he is. That in no way means that he treated her with kid gloves. That is the way Liberals are treated on these interviews. In fact, Dan Rather set the bar for kid gloves interviews with the Clintons.

    Tons of interviews and debates, yet he gets exactly zero questions about his past associations. Read hard-hitting there.

    And your "drove away" comment is utter bullshit. I can't speak for everyone else here, but your moronic "because I say so" continue to prove what a classless prick you are.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Like I said the going got tough and she quit, thats all we need to know.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 16:57:58

    Just like Obama, Clinton, Sebelius and Nopolitono. That's all we need to know.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Like I said the going got tough and she quit, thats all we need to know.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 16:57:58

    Sure thing, marthafwankiecrthns. I know who pulls the string on your sockpuppet now for sure. Hawkins was right.

  • TheBaud

    How would Palin handle the real world if she cant handle easy questions from that big bad Charlie Gibson, too funny!!

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-23 16:57:15

    I'm sure you had the same response for Obama when he tried to get the Justice Department to stop a legal and truthful campaign ad, for which he could not answer. Or maybe the way he has to resort to calling people racists so he doesn't have to listen to their legitimate concerns about his policies?

    Talk to President thin-skinned before lecturing anyone else, whats_up!

  • jasamc

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 16:57:15

    Obviously, Frank and Dworkin were on speedballs next to a leaking reactor during the "Night of Doom".

    The only people openly upset about the questions given them is Barry "Can't I Just Eat My Waffles" Hussein. Palin just kept giving Gibson's smug ass all the answers he could handle. Hell, he was proven to be wrong on the Bush Doctrine question by the very guy who came up with the phrase.

    You're going to have to start figuring out reality there, boy. Your viewpoint of things is not how the rest of the world sees it.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    talking about the lack of "freedom" in the US, while accepting a fat paycheck?

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:08:42

    Considering that politicians have been accepting fat paychecks for speeches within the last few decades, that is an obvious example of hatred by the left.

  • jasamc

    Like I said the going got tough and she quit wasting the taxpayers money on stupid things that provided nothing in return, thats all we need to know.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 16:57:58

    Fixed that for you. You're welcome.

  • D-Vega

    I'm sure you had the same response for Obama when he tried to get the Justice Department to stop a legal and truthful campaign ad, for which he could not answer.

    Obama never did that, as the Justice Dept cannot stop any ad from running anywhere. Stop lying. What he did do was ask the JD to investigate an illegal non-profit that was really a PAC.

    Or maybe the way he has to resort to calling people racists so he doesn't have to listen to their legitimate concerns about his policies?

    Obama has never called critics racists.

  • D-Vega

    Like I said the going got tough and she quit wasting the taxpayers money on stupid things that provided nothing in return, thats all we need to know. Fixed that for you. You're welcome. Posted by jasamc 2009-09-23 17:05:40

    Taxpayer money was only wasted by Palin herself. The majority of the 300K Alaska spent on the investigations were from the investigation that Palin requested – Troopergate.

    You should be asking how did she spend $500K on lawyers if the charges were all bogus.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 17:07:18

    We went throught the issue with the Justice Department a few weeks back, D-Vega. Do you really want your ignorant ass kicked AGAIN on that issue.

    And yes, I know Obama told Letterman that the 'racist' charge was silly. Trouble is, people that report directly to Obama are still doing it, and he is doing nothing to stop them. I give him credit for not getting his hands dirty and allowing his little minions to do what he is obviously to scared to do himself.

  • D-Vega

    We went throught the issue with the Justice Department a few weeks back, D-Vega. Do you really want your ignorant ass kicked AGAIN on that issue.

    Nice try, Baud. I have read both the letter to the JD, and seen the proof to back it up.

    Obama never requested the ad by stopped, because even if he did, the JD has no authority to do that.

    You're lying, as you usually do when backed into a corner of your own ignorance.

  • D-Vega

    Trouble is, people that report directly to Obama are still doing it, and he is doing nothing to stop them.

    Like who? Name me some people who report to Obama who are doing this.

    You said "he has to resort to calling people racists so he doesn't have to listen to their legitimate concerns about his policies". Back it up or STFU.

  • TheBaud

    Back it up or STFU.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-23 17:16:26

    I asked you weeks ago to provide proof to be that Ken Gladney was faking his injuries as you repeatedly claimed. Every time I asked that question, you ran away. Now you are demaning I prove something to you, especially something like this that you already know is true?

    You are a very funny person D-Vega. Try living up to your own standards before you demand them of others!

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    You should be asking how did she spend $500K on lawyers if the charges were all bogus.

    Posted by D-Vega

    A defense was required in all cases. Her and Todd, in case you didn't know, had to work to make a living. And you liberals are ok with her having to spend a half million dollars on defending bogus ethics charges by a Democratic operative.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    You should be asking how did she spend $500K on lawyers if the charges were all bogus.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 17:11:07

    Are you really this fucking stupid, Vega? Somebody accuses Palin of a crime and you're bitching about her lawyers' fees?

    I have an idea. Let's have somebody falsely accuse you of rape. When you hire an attorney to defend yourself of these false charges, we'll claim that you're guilty because you hired an attorney.

    That, ladies and gentlemen, is hatred. It is also proof that Vega doesn't respect other people's rights because defendants have the right to counsel.

  • jasamc

    It is also proof that Vega doesn't respect other people's rights because defendants have the right to counsel.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-09-23 17:31:05

    No, I'm sure he wants it for his people – he just doesn't want it for conservatives.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Like I said the going got tough and she quit, thats all we need to know.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 16:57:58

    She quit because the ethics complaints(by DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES) were interfering with her ability to effectively do her job. Better to leave the job than not be able to do it at the best of your ability while dealing with false allegations. And that's all WE need to know!

  • CoolCzech

    The only speech that was anti-American today, was Sarah Palin's speech.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 16:46:12

    Because she went to Hong Kong, a city with a democratically elected government that safeguards human rights?

    What Red Planet are you living on, guy?

  • CoolCzech

    Obama has never called critics racists.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-09-23 17:07:18

    No, he just has his minions do it and – as the head of the Democratic Party – never tells them to knock it of.

    You know, historically its a true statement that Hitler never ordered the Holocaust… because he knew he didn't have to. But then, he never told anyone to stop, either.

  • Realpolitik

    historically its a true statement that Hitler never ordered the Holocaust…

    Posted by CoolCzech

    Your ignorance knows no bounds.

  • CoolCzech

    "…historically its a true statement that Hitler never ordered the Holocaust… "

    Posted by CoolCzech

    Your ignorance knows no bounds.

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-23 19:24:41

    As I always knew, you're a fracking idiot.

    The fact is, Hitler was very careful to never sign his name to any order dealing with the Holocaust. Not a one. Of course he was complicit up to his evil ass in it, but I defy you to google a single memo signed by him issuing such an order.

    And my point is obvious: in his own evil way, Obama is careful to separate himself from the racist accusations his minions make. But only a freaking moron such as you could for one second think he isn't complicit in it.

  • CoolCzech

    I think an excellent link expounding Hitler's role in putting the Holocaust in motion is:

    http://www.holocaust-history.org/hitler-final-sol

    Now, that site refers to new documents – again, NOT signed by Hitler – that make it very, very clear that Hitler did order the Holocaust – VERBALLY. But NEVER in writing… supreme leader that he was, he wanted his "plausible deniability."

    I was a bit sloppy in saying "never ordered the holocaust," I should have added "in writing."

    But my analogy between the way Hitler and Obama each want their own deniability is clear and strong.

  • jasamc

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 19:44:55

    You forget – you're using facts and logic against a guy who tried to claim the West Point MWR office as his home address; I'm gonna have to say that is a point too far for RP to go.

  • whats_up

    Because she went to Hong Kong, a city with a democratically elected government that safeguards human rights?

    What Red Planet are you living on, guy?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 18:59:07

    You really dont understand how things work over in China do you? They took control of Hong Kong, and while they prescribe to democracy, the candidates have to clear muster with China. You really should keep up on current events sparky.

  • whats_up

    But my analogy between the way Hitler and Obama each want their own deniability is clear and strong.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-23 19:44:55

    Again with the Hitler comparasons, you are beginning to come unhinged, by all means announce this to EVERYONE you know, all of them. You will continue to drive away more and more moderate independents, you will hand the Dems the governing process for years to come, so please tell EVERYONE.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    whats_up is a sockpuppet of a man who is both gay and a nazi admirer. Which is pretty much the same thing, if you ask Nixon.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    You really dont understand how things work over in China do you?

    THat is right! Nixon remembers you claiming to be the expert on all things Beijing!

    Nixon had forgotten that til you opened your mouth about it.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    You will continue to drive away more and more moderate independents,

    Actually, more and more of them daily are deserting Obamateur and leaning Republican, after seeing the total incompetence of the One's Administration

    An Inconvenient Truth.

  • Realpolitik

    I was a bit sloppy in saying "never ordered the holocaust," I should have added "in writing."

    But my analogy between the way Hitler and Obama each want their own deniability is clear and strong.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    A "bit", eh? You have left slop all over the history books.

    Your analogy is clear and wrong.

  • Realpolitik

    Actually, more and more of them daily are deserting Obamateur and leaning Republican, after seeing the total incompetence of the One's Administration

    An Inconvenient Truth.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    LOL, dixon. An inconvenient fallacy.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

    Your analogy is clear and wrong.

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-23 22:29:38

    Your love of Hitler, Nazi's, and cock is very clear. Why aren't you posting under whats_up now? Tired of getting beaten in every argument under that sockpuppet?

  • whats_up

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 22:59:50

    Nixon you are so clueless sometimes that its funny.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Nixon you are so clueless sometimes that its funny.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 23:04:39

    Whats_up, before you lecture other people on being clueless here's a reminder: The 13th Amendment. Remember that?

    If I were you I wouldn't remind other people of being clueless when you have no fucking idea about the U.S. Constitution.

    D_N has *FAR* more knowledge in current events then you. Why don't you do us a favor and put a bullet into your own head?

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Again with the Hitler comparasons, you are beginning to come unhinged, by all means announce this to EVERYONE you know, all of them. You will continue to drive away more and more moderate independents, you will hand the Dems the governing process for years to come, so please tell EVERYONE.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 21:11:00

    By all means, feel free of reminding us how we're driving away independents. Perhaps you can recall a section of "Mein Kampf," you seem to remember that book word by word.

  • Realpolitik

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-09-23 22:59:50

    Poor li'l dixon. Get your hobnails on and come out of the closet.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-23 23:13:44

    Shut up Dildo.

  • CoolCzech

    Your analogy is clear and wrong.

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-23 22:29:38

    Screw you.

    How's that for a feisty retort?

    And the only one you're worthy of, you not-so-closeted fascist.

    Here you are, publicly felating a regime that seeks to illegally use goverment funds to convert the NEA into an Agitprop Art Department.

    YOU support the "rendition of prisoners" to other countries for interrogation – the sort of places that drive over people with trucks to make them talk… and yet you have the nerve to bitch about waterboarding.

    YOU support government letters sent to insurance companies ordering them not to contradict Obama's lies about healthcare.

    YOU support having Americans snitch on their neighbors at flat@whitehouse.gov ( a government site being misused for Mr. Obama's private political interests, btw).

    YOU support foisting a Leftist dictatorship on the people of Honduras.

    YOU support the upteenth liberal betrayal of the Czechs and eastern Europe.

    The only "slop" here is what is flowing out of years, Fascist.

    YOU support shutting down all free media in this country.

  • CoolCzech

    ooops, "years" s/b "your ears."

  • CoolCzech

    Again with the Hitler comparasons…

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-23 21:11:00

    If the shoe fits…

    Not a WEEK has gone by since Obama took power that some complete outrage against the American constitution hasn't taken place or been proposed or darkly hinted at. NOT A ONE.

    The list just goes on and on – SEIU union thugs beating up cripples in wheelchairs for daring to oppose Obama. Asking children to write essays on how to be of help to our Dear Leader (yeah, that did get shot down, thank God). Attempting to co-op the NEA into a personal propaganda department. Political prosecutions of heroic CIA personnel that saved thousands of American lives.

    If Bush did anything like this, the same Left for 8 years called him Bushitler would freak out. But the Left's totalitarian impulses are now unchecked, and it turns out that all these decades that they called conservatives "fascists" and "Nazis" were nothing but Projection of their own desires.

  • Realpolitik

    Screw you.

    How's that for a feisty retort?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 07:58:27

    It has wit which is as tepid as the rest of your post is inaccurate.

  • Realpolitik

    . . . SEIU union thugs beating up cripples in wheelchairs for daring to oppose Obama.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 08:25:53

    LOL. Wipe the foam off your mouth.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by Realpolitik 2009-09-24 08:37:54

    Fantastic reply, Realpolitik. Good to see which side of the issue you fall on. Now, feel free to goosestep back to your bunker.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 08:36:33

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 08:37:54

    STFU Dildo

  • Realpolitik

    STFU Dildo

    Posted by bthewolf

    Wot happened to free speech, bthe?

  • TheBaud

    Wot happened to free speech, bthe?

    Posted by Realpolitik 2009-09-24 09:04:49

    WHAT?

    Do you think this website is the government? And having someone tell use their First Amendment right of Free Speech to tell you to shut up hurts you?

    If you can't stand that, you may need to find a new way to annoy people.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Wot happened to free speech, bthe?

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 09:04:49

    Shut up dildo

  • Realpolitik

    And having someone tell use their First Amendment right of Free Speech to tell you to shut up hurts you?

    Posted by TheBaud

    *Free* speech – not incomprehensible speech.

  • TheBaud

    *Free* speech – not incomprehensible speech.

    Posted by Realpolitik 2009-09-24 09:19:14

    bthewolf's speech, as well as it's meaning, are crystal clear. Why is it that you want to deny him the right to say what he wants to say?

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Wot happened to free speech, bthe?

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 09:04:49

    Shut up dildo!

    This is a private website, you nor I have the right to post, only the privilege, as given by Mr Hawkins. And your posts are mindless drivel, so SHUT UP!!

  • Realpolitik

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-24 09:20:29

    It was your comment which was incomprehensible.

  • Realpolitik

    so SHUT UP!!

    Posted by bthewolf

    Repetitive l'il drone, ain't ya?

  • TheBaud

    It was your comment which was incomprehensible.

    Posted by Realpolitik 2009-09-24 09:23:41

    Ah, typical tactic of the Left, simply dismiss uncomfortable comments. How utterly predictable of you.

    I see why you so adore this president. You are both little fascist wannabee's.

  • Realpolitik

    It was your comment which was incomprehensible.

    Posted by Realpolitik 2009-09-24 09:23:41

    Ah, typical tactic of the Left, simply dismiss *incomprehensible* comments. How utterly predictable of you.

    Posted by TheBaud

    Fixed that for ya.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by Realpolitik 2009-09-24 09:40:29

    Then I suggest a remedial course in reading comprehension. Or, if the multi-syllabal words are confusing you, follow bthewolf's advice and SHUT UP!

  • CoolCzech

    It has wit which is as tepid as the rest of your post is inaccurate.

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 08:36:33

    So you keep bleating.

    Care to explain WHAT is inaccurate about of that?

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 09:40:29

    Shut up Dildo

  • Realpolitik

    Care to explain WHAT is inaccurate about of that?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    LOL, No, folks, I don't make any of this up.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    It was your comment which was incomprehensible.

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 09:23:41

    I understood it, so that makes you the idiot.

  • TheBaud

    I don't make any of this up.

    Posted by Realpolitik 2009-09-24 09:54:43

    Making up stuff is what you do and what we expect of you. What CoolCzech is asking you to do is defend your statement. And it is obvious that you are not up to the task.

    Thank you, you can go now.

  • CoolCzech

    LOL, No, folks, I don't make any of this up.

    Posted by Realpolitik

    2009-09-24 09:54:43

    Realpolitik is a complete, utter troll and should be banned. He simply pulls a Lawrence O'Donnel ("You're a liar, a liar, a creepy liar!") and blithely refuses to explain his own statements.

  • Realpolitik

    and blithely refuses to explain his own statements.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    What do you want to know?

  • whats_up

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 08:25:53

    What utter bullshit, take your pills or go back to the asylum. This from the man that doesnt even know that Hong Kong is controlled by China, have you educated yourself yet there CC? Hey here is a thought, dont like how things are going, you are free to return to your country of origin, dont let the door hit you on the way out. America will be better off once you are gone.

  • TheBaud

    America will be better off once you are gone.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-24 10:18:01

    What a coincidence, I was going to say the same thing to you, whats_up!

  • CoolCzech

    Since when do YOU care about America being better off, whats_up?

    Why don't you educate yourself on the "One Country/Two Systems" status of Hong Kong, guy. And oh – you quite sure Bill Clinton never gave a speech in Hong Kong?

  • CoolCzech

    Bitten off any conservative's fingers lately, whats_up?

    That seems to be the LATEST Liberal tactic, don't it?

  • whats_up

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 10:31:49

    CC,

    I am very familiar with the one country/two systems concept, it was you that seemed to struggle with it, claiming that Hong Kong democratically elects its leaders, cmon man get with the program. Bill did give a speech in Hong Kong, but he didnt blast the American govt or the President in it, you conservatives call that being anti-american and accuse liberal lawmakers that engage in this as being traitors, and yet give Palin a pass, interesting.

  • http://wastingtimewithalex.com/ AlexinCT

    America will be better off once you are gone.

    This an admitance that you and your ideological mates favor those nice special camps that collectivist thugs, sooner or later, set up to deal with those that displease them crthns? Because it would be a breath of fresh air to finally get some honesty from you.

  • CoolCzech

    Hey here is a thought, dont like how things are going, you are free to return to your country of origin, dont let the door hit you on the way out. America will be better off once you are gone.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-24 10:18:01

    Ahhh, note the typical fascist xenophobism & intolerance of diversity of opinion… these guys don't brook dissent.

    Speaking of leaving, I thought you Lefties promised to pack it up and move to Canda 4 years ago. Pity you didn't take your own threats seriously…

    Oh, that's right – the Canucks didn't want you, did they?

    Gee, I wonder why.

  • CoolCzech

    Bill did give a speech in Hong Kong, but he didnt blast the American govt or the President in it…

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-24 10:37:34

    No, but President Obama just blasted the previous American President and American Policy AND American History in front of the United Nationas just yesterday, whats_up. NEVER in the history of this nation has there been anything like it. what a disgrace.

  • whats_up

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 10:43:51

    I was very proud of Obama, see unlike you conservatives we realize that there are times when America hasnt stood shinning on that hill, that we havent lived up to our own ideals, we understand that we have made mistakes. It was a good speech, a realistic speech.

  • whats_up

    This an admitance that you and your ideological mates favor those nice special camps that collectivist thugs, sooner or later, set up to deal with those that displease them crthns? Because it would be a breath of fresh air to finally get some honesty from you.

    Posted by AlexinCT

    2009-09-24 10:39:17

    We dont create camps to put those who disagree with us politcally in Alex, but keep beating that dead horse. Perhaps you can show us just where these supposed "camps" are being built, perhaps you can tell us who has been rounded up, oh wait thats right no one, however should this come to pass I vote that we pick you up first.

  • whats_up

    these guys don't brook dissent.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 10:41:13

    So says that man that accuses everyone who doesnt agree with him politically as being anti-american, too funny!

  • TheBaud

    So says that man that accuses everyone who doesnt agree with him politically as being anti-american, too funny!

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-24 11:00:35

    I would have thought that you and the rest of your Leftist friends would have grown tired of telling that lie, whats_up. Guess not!

  • TheBaud

    see unlike you conservatives we realize that there are times when America hasnt stood shinning on that hill, that we havent lived up to our own ideals, we understand that we have made mistakes.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-24 10:51:30

    Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong! — Steven Decatur

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-24 11:11:10

    Like I said, you dont think America should apologize for anything, I hope that you dont live your personal life that way.

  • Realpolitik

    . . . but our country, right or wrong! — Steven Decatur

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-24 11:11:10

    Ole Steve got that one wrong.

  • TheBaud

    Like I said, you dont think America should apologize for anything, I hope that you dont live your personal life that way.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-24 11:13:02

    Your mind-reading ability is a pathetic as your attitude towards other Americans. America is not perfect, but that does not mean we should be groveling to people around the world, especially murderous dictators and countries that we have saved from their own distruction.

    And if you do truly spend your personal life going around and apologizing to people for your very existance, then that might eplain why you are the miserable person that you are.

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-24 11:27:14

    Good thing that we are not groveling then huh?

  • whats_up

    America is not perfect, but that does not mean we should be groveling to people around the world

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-24 11:27:14

    You are right there, we shouldnt grovel, but we should apologize when we do something wrong, which Obama has done, thankfully.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    You are right there, we shouldnt grovel, but we should apologize when we do something wrong, which Obama has done, thankfully.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-24 11:38:57

    Name the other countries that have apologized for their wrongs.

    (Crickets chirping)

  • whats_up

    Name the other countries that have apologized for their wrongs.

    (Crickets chirping)

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-09-24 11:48:42

    King,

    England, France, Germany, how many more do you need?

  • whats_up

    Name the other countries that have apologized for their wrongs.

    (Crickets chirping)

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-09-24 11:48:42

    King,

    Since when does America care if other countries have apologized? Do we need their approval prior to doing anything, you cant really be expressing that America cant do something until other countries do?

  • CoolCzech

    Since when does America care if other countries have apologized? Do we need their approval prior to doing anything, you cant really be expressing that America cant do something until other countries do?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-24 12:15:58

    WHAT on Earth are you saying, whats_up?

    Didn't Obama just apologized to the Third World Freak Show known as the UN for America not being subservient to world opinion enough? Isn't American "unilaterilism" pretty much ALL you lefties whined about for 8 years?

    Get your talking points straight, guy.

  • CoolCzech

    Name the other countries that have apologized for their wrongs.

    (Crickets chirping)

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-09-24 11:48:42

    King,

    England, France, Germany, how many more do you need?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-24 11:53:12

    Good LORD, whats_up! Do you honestly not see a qualitative difference between America defending itself in the Middle East after 3,000 of us were slaughtered in the streets of New York from, let's say, the Holocaust?

  • CoolCzech

    "…see unlike you conservatives we realize that there are times when America hasnt stood shinning on that hill, that we havent lived up to our own ideals, we understand that we have made mistakes."

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-24 10:51:30

    But unlike ordinary people the world over, you Liberals have a hard time seeing that the good the USA has represented in the world FAR outweighs whatever imaginary faults you assign to her. The nation that saved Europe from Nazism AND Communism has NOTHING to apologize to the decadent, shiftless inhabitants of that dying continent. NOTHING.

    Nor do we have ANYTHING to apologize for to the Russians, that have spent a century now as the scourge of the planet.

    NOTHING.

    Nor do we need to apologize for anything to the BLOOD-Red Chinese, who's hands drip with the blood of North Koreans, Tibetans, and tens of millions of their own fellow countryment. NOTHING.

    Nor do we have ANYTHING to apologize for to the brutal regimes of the Middle East, that have killed hundreds of thousands of their own citizens and like to whip up anti-American sentiments just to divert attention from their own crimes. NOTHING.

    Nor do we have anything to apologize for to the Africans, that enslave their own people down to this very day. NOTHING.

    Nor do we have anything to apologize for to Latin America, that has been run by oppressive regimes of the Right and the Left since the day it emerged from under Spain's thumb. NOTHING.

    Who does that leave, what_up?

  • whats_up

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 13:11:53

    It doesnt matter when something took place, it doesnt even matter if we were defending ourselves or not, if wrong occurs no matter where or when, it should be apologized for, end of story.

  • whats_up

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 13:18:42

    Thanks for pointing out that you dont think we have to apologize to anyone, we allready got that, but I appreciate the reinforcement that you think America doesnt have to apologize, your arrogance is astounding.

  • CoolCzech

    Your coming on hands and knees to the likes of Chavez and Castro and Putin earns you noting but utter contempt in their eyes, what's_up.

    But since you feel such a great need to apologize, how 'bout an apology to Poland and the Czech Republic for Obama's great betrayal just a few days ago?

  • TheBaud

    But since you feel such a great need to apologize, how 'bout an apology to Poland and the Czech Republic for Obama's great betrayal just a few days ago?

    Posted by CoolCzech 2009-09-24 13:28:45

    CoolCzech, this will be the part of the debate when whats_up suddenly has nothing more to add and needs to 'go home', or some other excuse to disguise his cowardise.

    He learned this trick from D-Vega.

  • D-Vega

    Don't try to deflect away from your lying without any backup, Baud.

  • TheBaud

    Don't try to deflect away from your lying without any backup, Baud.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-24 15:59:19

    Ah, the classless prick decided to make an appearance. Got that proof yet, asshole?

  • whats_up

    But since you feel such a great need to apologize, how 'bout an apology to Poland and the Czech Republic for Obama's great betrayal just a few days ago?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-24 13:28:45

    There was no great betrayal, after all the people of the Czech Republic didnt even want said missle shield. No amount of you stopping up an down is going to change the fact that this wasnt a betrayal, sorry sporto.

  • CoolCzech

    Whats_up,

    Need to have the last word, much?

  • http://wastingtimewithalex.com/ AlexinCT

    We dont create camps to put those who disagree with us politcally in Alex, but keep beating that dead horse. Perhaps you can show us just where these supposed "camps" are being built,

    I point out that you sound awfully close to the people that build camps to deal with those that won’t play along, and ask if that's the plan for those of us in the future – based on your assertion that you have plans for CC – and your rebuttal to my assertion you collectivists like to kill those that you don’t like, is this stupefying circular logic framed in the form of question to impugn my logic demanding I produce evidence now of camps to back my assertion up? Do you even see how stupid this makes you sound? You want me to time travel? How about I do it to the past? Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Castro, The Kims, Ho Chi Min. All collectivists, and all had camps. They all also talked like you and believed in the same things.

    perhaps you can tell us who has been rounded up, oh wait thats right no one, however should this come to pass I vote that we pick you up first.

    Thanks for making my point for me again though crthns. Stalin would be proud.

  • http://wastingtimewithalex.com/ AlexinCT

    t doesnt matter when something took place, it doesnt even matter if we were defending ourselves or not, if wrong occurs no matter where or when, it should be apologized for, end of story.

    May I then direct you to the democrats currently destroying the country so you cab preach this gospel to them? Liberals and their stupidity are the only ones that think govelling and appologizing constantly make a difference, instead of real actions. Oh yeah, let me appologize for calling you the a$$ that you are crthns.

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