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Testy President Gets Testy With Gov. Jan Brewer

Written By : William Teach

Obama is not particularly happy when people write bad things about him, because he is the anointed one. He’s the only one that can say bad things about people and/or throw them under the bus. Everyone else is just supposed to sit there and take it when Obama bad mouths them (see SOTU 2010 when he abused the Supreme Court for one)

(The Politico) It was a tense moment on the tarmac.

President Obama, alighting from the stairs of Air Force One in Phoenix this afternoon, was greeted by Arizona Governor Jan Brewer, who handed him an envelope and the two exchanged what appeared to be some heated sentiments. At one point, she pointed her finger at him.

Asked afterward what happened, Brewer said, “He was a little disturbed about my book, Scorpions for Breakfast.

“I said to him that I have all the respect in the world for the office of the president. The book is what the book is. I asked him if he read the book. He said he read the excerpt,” she said, according to a pool report. “He didn’t feel that I had treated him cordially. I said I was sorry he felt that way but I didn’t get my sentence finished. Anyway, we’re glad he’s here. I’ll regroup.”

She didn’t get her sentence finished because Testy President decided he would walk away. Since Obama and the Democrats continually blame Bush, imagine the way Bush would be treated had Bush pulled this stunt with a sitting US governor in their own state…..except, Bush wouldn’t pull this.

The pool reporter, POLITICO’s Carrie Budoff Brown, said the scene was far from the norm. Aside from the pointing, they appeared to talk over each other and he appeared to walk away from her while they were still talking.

Brewer said the president brought up the book.

The book includes a passage in which Obama wasn’t particularly cordial to Brewer (via Hot Air)

“It was though President Obama thought he could lecture me, and I would learn at his knee,” the governor wrote, calling his tone “patronizing.”

“He thinks he can humor me and then get rid of me,” Brewer wrote.

Questioned about the different description, the governor said she did not lie.

“I mean, we weren’t yelling at one another, screaming at one another,” she said.

“But it was a pretty one-sided conversation,” Brewer said. “He was, I believe, condescending. And he was lecturing me about what we were going to do and how we were going to do it.”

As Allahpundit writes, being condescending, patronizing, and testy just sounds so unlike Obama. Doug Powers points out that Obama has had a similar exchange with Bobby Jindal. Wizbang wonders why Obama is so touchy. Nice Deb has lots of videos. Unshockingly, Outside The Beltway says Brewer was wrong for not just sitting there and taking Obama’s scolding. I guess she should have also gotten back in the kitchen and made Obama a sandwich, too.

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Anonymous

Good. Everybody’s getting sick of Obama rolling into town like the Emperor and dumping all over the states and their elected leaders.

Now, we all know the Romney “shoe shine” picture was phony (he was getting wanded), but this is the kind of tarmac photo I want from my Republicans.
Anonymous

Good. Everybody’s getting sick of Obama rolling into town like the Emperor and dumping all over the states and their elected leaders.

Now, we all know the Romney “shoe shine” picture was phony (he was getting wanded), but this is the kind of tarmac photo I want from my Republicans.
Anonymous

He doesn’t recognize his community organizer instructions , GET in their face !
Thin skinned don’t even come close .
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http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I can understand strong words, on either side of the aisle.

But there’s a certain lack of respect when it comes to sticking your finger in the face of someone. Whether or not they were having a disagreement, she should have a little more respect for at least the office of the President.

But it doesn’t surprise me, and it doesn’t surprise me that the right will cheer her on. Disrespecting Obama is what they had first and it will be what they have last.

Anonymous

There’s a certain level of disrespect as well when the President gives guns to Mexican cartels, refuses to police the border, then sues the state when they take measures to protect themselves.

You know, but Jan Brewer waving her finger in the face of your deity is a much bigger insult in the eyes of you libs.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

The President didn’t give and guns to Mexican cartels and didn’t refuse to police the border.

He did sue the state, which was correct and that will be vindicated when he wins the case.

Brewer, or anyone, wagging their finger at the the President is the height of disrespect and insecurity on her part.

Anonymous

The President didn’t give and guns to Mexican cartels and didn’t refuse to police the border.

We’ve been over this, D-Vega. Fast&Furious was an Obama administration program. He owns it, whether he knew it was happening or not.

If he knew it was happening then he willingly sold guns to Mexican cartels for God knows what reason (but probably to justify new gun control laws) in which case he does not deserve Brewer’s respect. If he didn’t know it was happening then he’s incompetent and can’t handle the job of the President, in which case he also does not deserve Brewer’s respect.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I don’t know the facts, and neither do you.

This topic, however, is about the Governor of Airzona being so insecure, and the inability to get her point across, she feels the need to disrespect the President in such a fashion.
Anonymous

“I don’t know the facts”

No, you apparently don’t. But you don’t need to. It’s a simple syllogism. Either Obama knew about Fast&Furious, or he didn’t. If he didn’t, then he’s incompetent and unfit for the office of the President. If he did, then at best he’s an accessory to murder.

As for the topic of Gov. Brewer, I find it interesting that you have only criticized her behavior and completely excused Obama’s behavior.

Like I said, in order to get respect you have to give it. Obama did not give the proper respect to a duly elected state governor. He rolled into HER state and acted condescending and patronizing, but the only criticism you have is for Gov. Brewer.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

He may not have known because it was being kept from him by the local AG or Holder himself.

I excused Obama’s behavior? What behavior, specifically?
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

So then you don’t know that she feels insecure, you assume that based on what little you do know, and then presume to pronounce judgment. And you think Brewer was being disrespectful?!?! Your assumption of her insecurity is the height of arrogance, and rudeness.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I still know more than you do. Look at that picture. No need for that unless she is insecure.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

BULLSHIT Vega, now you’re reading minds and/or playing amateur psychologist you cannot KNOW why. You are inferring. You are doing what you are trying to accuse the rest of us are doing ASSUMING!!!
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Oh, so now ASSUMING is wrong and shouldn’t be done unless I have proof? Who woulda thunk?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Oh, so now ASSUMING is wrong and shouldn’t be done unless I have proof? Who woulda thunk?
Anonymous

“He may not have known because it was being kept from him by the local AG or Holder himself.”

So he’s incompetent, has no business being President, and does not deserve Brewer’s (or anyone’s) respect. Thank you.

“I excused Obama’s behavior? What behavior, specifically?”
By not criticizing bad behavior, you are tacitly excusing it. This is not hard to understand, D-Vega.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I do criticize bad behavior, when it’s warranted.

I still await Daryl Issa’s report.

Just admit that no matter what Obama does, you guys will complain about it. It’s been shown time and time again.

Liberals at least are being more critical of him, and praising him when necessary. You guys are a broken record and this proves it.
Anonymous

“I do criticize bad behavior, when it’s warranted.”

According to this very thread, no. No you do not.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Yes, I do.

I see a pic of a governor (don’t matter who it is) in the face of the POTUS (don’t matter who it is) sticking their finger in his face, and I think “Man, that’s rude. That’s the President and you are a governor. Have some respect for the POTUS and some respect for your position. Don’t do that publicly, because it makes you look bad. ”

You see Obama, and someone being rude to him, and you say “Hooray! We need someone to be mean to Obama! He must and does deserve this!”
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Yes, I do.

I see a pic of a governor (don’t matter who it is) in the face of the POTUS (don’t matter who it is) sticking their finger in his face, and I think “Man, that’s rude. That’s the President and you are a governor. Have some respect for the POTUS and some respect for your position. Don’t do that publicly, because it makes you look bad. ”

You see Obama, and someone being rude to him, and you say “Hooray! We need someone to be mean to Obama! He must and does deserve this!”
Anonymous

“Yes, I do.”

No, you don’t.

You see a picture of a woman apparently pointing her finger at a man while talking. If you were basing your “observation” on this alone and nothing else, you would have no reason to conclude that she was pointing in a rude manner.

The fact that you have concluded that she was rudely pointing is iron-clad proof that your “observation” is colored by your own biases. If this were a picture of two people you had never seen before you might conclude that they were having an argument, but you would have no reason to assume that either was being especially rude to the other just because one of them happened to be pointing. People point for all sorts of reasons. But because you know that Obama and Brewer don’t like each other much, you assume that she was being rude, while at the same time dodging questions about Obama’s own behavior.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Oh, so I made a conclusion based on my bias?

Do you realize how much like a nincompoop you sound?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I don’t know the facts, and neither do you.

This topic, however, is about the Governor of Airzona being so insecure, and the inability to get her point across, she feels the need to disrespect the President in such a fashion.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

No the topic is “WHAT did Obama say that pushed Brewer to finger pointing?”

What did Obama say that was so rude that Brewer had to point her finger?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

What makes you think he did anything? Maybe she is just rude.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Because HE has a history of this, Brwewer not so much.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

No, he doesn’t. Sorry.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Because HE has a history of this, Brwewer not so much.
Anonymous

“What makes you think he did anything? Maybe she is just rude.”

What makes you think she is “just rude”? What makes you think Obama didn’t do something to make her angry?

Oh right, because you’re an Obamawhore.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

He doesn’t Teach links to 2 specific instances alone, and there are other examples.

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

The President didn’t give and guns to Mexican cartels

Not personally but his personal policy caused it to happen, and he must take responsibility for what his agencies do regardless.

He did sue the state, which was correct and that will be vindicated when he wins the case.

The suit was absurd, ridiculous, and tyrannical crap. A state should never be sued for simply enforcing federal law that the federal government chooses not to.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Firstly, I don’t know whether it was his personal policy. We should find out.

Secondly, the federal government isn’t choosing to not enforce the law. That’s crock of crap.

The states don’t have jurisdiction over immigration law.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Really?!? You should tell that to DoJ at the Fed and state levels.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

There is more security at the border than under Bush. And Obama deported more people in his first two years than Bush did in eight.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

That doesn’t ansewr my question!!! WTF?!?!
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Firstly, I don’t know whether it was his personal policy. We should find out.

Secondly, the federal government isn’t choosing to not enforce the law. That’s crock of crap.

The states don’t have jurisdiction over immigration law.
http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

Firstly, I don’t know whether it was his personal policy. We should find out.

Well the spokesman for the Justice Department said it was back in 2009, maybe he was lying.

The states don’t have jurisdiction over immigration law.

We’ve been over this before, Vega. The state governments are required to enforce federal laws. That’s why the sheriff pulls you over for breaking the federal speed limit on interstate highways.

Anonymous

Respect is earned, not given. Barack Obama has shown himself unworthy of respect on numerous occasions. He has no right to expect it on command.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Like I said, the office of both the governor’s office and the POTUS deserves more than a finger wagging. It’s highly disrespectful and illustrates she couldn’t make her point without it (which means insecurity).

But like I said, I am not surprised. The only reason why Newt is surging is because people feel he will be the rudest and most obnoxious.

Anonymous

Like I said, the office of both the governor’s office and the POTUS deserves more than a finger wagging.

Not when the person occupying the office of the POTUS rolls into your home state and starts lecturing you as though you were a small stupid child.

That’s the other thing about respect. In order to get it, you have to give it in return. If Obama wants to roll into town and disrespect people right to their faces, he shouldn’t be surprised when they disrespect him right back.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

You don’t know how the conversation went, samurai.

You do know she stuck her finger at him.

She is the one, according to documented proof, who was acting petulent.
Anonymous

“You don’t know how the conversation went, samurai.”

Neither do you, but you seem to have no problem assuming that Brewer is lying and was just being a snippy bitch for no reason.

“She is the one, according to documented proof, who was acting petulent.”

Right. Because there’s nothing petulant about walking away from someone in the middle of a conversation like Obama did.

Can you not get your tongue out of Obama’s anus for five damn minutes?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I didn’t call her a snippy bitch, you did. Maybe he angered her. Still no reason to act that way. She should have more control and be a little more secure than to disrespect the President in that manner.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

The picture does not PROVE that Obama wasn’t being petulent. It only proves she was pointing her finger. Since we don’t know his words you are again making assumptions based on what you SEE.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

uh, yet you are making a conclusion. I have a photo, you have NOTHING.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

The picture does not PROVE that Obama wasn’t being petulent. It only proves she was pointing her finger. Since we don’t know his words you are again making assumptions based on what you SEE.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

I’m not making a conclusion, I don’t WHy she did it, I only that YOU are assuming why she did it. I’m offering conjecture as conjecture. You are offering a picture as proof with NO way to support your assertion about what caused the scene.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I didn’t discuss the cause. I discussed the result. And that is rude no matter how you slice it.
Anonymous

“I didn’t call her a snippy bitch, you did. Maybe he angered her. Still no reason to act that way.”

So you finally admit it. Even if Obama was intentionally being an ass, only Brewer was in the wrong. Obama can be rude to anyone he pleases but no one is allowed to be rude to him.

“She should have more control and be a little more secure than to disrespect the President in that manner.”

Obama should have more control and be a little more secure than to fly all the way to Arizona just to whine at someone who criticized him. But you don’t care about that. He is the Obamessiah and Shall Not Be Questioned.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I didn’t admit anything. I said “maybe”. I don’t know what transpired.

The thing is, you DON’T EITHER. And yet you made the assumption it was Obama’s fault.

Just admit you are an anti-Obama whore and we’ll leave it at that.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I didn’t admit anything. I said “maybe”. I don’t know what transpired.

The thing is, you DON’T EITHER. And yet you made the assumption it was Obama’s fault.

Just admit you are an anti-Obama whore and we’ll leave it at that.
Anonymous

“I didn’t admit anything. I said “maybe”. I don’t know what transpired.”

Actually what you said was that even if Obama did something rude that made her angry with him, she was still the one in the wrong. Not Obama for provoking her, she was wrong for not showing the proper respect and devotion to the Obamessiah. THAT is what you said, D-Vega.

“The thing is, you DON’T EITHER. And yet you made the assumption it was Obama’s fault.”

I made a hypothesis based on his history of rude behavior. You looked at a picture of a woman pointing and immediately jumped to the conclusion that she was being rude, despite admitting that you have no idea what they were actually talking about.

If you don’t know what they were talking about, why would you assume she was pointing in a rude manner? If we’re judging solely by the photo, then for all you know she could have been pointing at a pretty bird that just flew by off camera.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

If you don’t know cause, Vega, you cannot assume rude. There are perfectly polite reasons to point.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

We don’t know them though, do we?

What I am saying is that picture is disrespectful to his office. And I have NEVER seen anyone do that to a President, sitting or otherwise.
Anonymous

“We don’t know them though, do we?”

We don’t know what? We don’t know any other reasons for one person to point at another person? Considering I personally listed several reasons she might have been pointing, I think it’s safe to say you are lying through your teeth.”What I am saying is that picture is disrespectful to his office.”How so? All you have is a picture of Brewer pointing at Obama. Are you saying it’s always impolite to point at President Obama?If Brewer was pointing out a piece of broccoli in Obama’s teeth, that would be “disrespectful to his office”? What if she was pointing and saying “You know Mr. President, you’re a real swell guy”? Would that also be “disrespectful to his office”?”And I have NEVER seen anyone do that to a President, sitting or otherwise.”

So the fact that you, personally, have never seen anyone point in the general direction of the President “proves” that it’s always rude to do so?

I’ve never seen anyone give the President a high-five. Is that “rude” now too?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

You seem to be losing it and overcompensating here in terms of your explanation. The FACT is that you all (not only here but all over the rightosphere) made a conclusion simply based on the fact it was Obama.

And YET, you are literally falling over and drooling trying to excuse an obvious rude gesture that was caught on film.

You seem to be caught in a web of hypocrisy and stupidity. Sorry. Have a nice weekend.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

You don’t know how the conversation went, samurai.

You do know she stuck her finger at him.

She is the one, according to documented proof, who was acting petulent.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

(repost)

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

While I agree that respect is earned, the position and office of the president ought to be treated with respect and honor even if the man in it is ill deserving. Its like in the military, as I’ve said over and over: you salute the rank, not the man.

Anonymous

Respect is earned, not given. Barack Obama has shown himself unworthy of respect on numerous occasions. He has no right to expect it on command.
http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

Perhaps Obama could have started out by showing respect for the duly elected governor of Arizona, instead of flying into her state and whining at her. Plus walking away like a petulant teenager.

gfchicago

William, you give Obama too much credit. I was thinking more like a petulant 5 year old that throws a temper tantrum when he doesn’t get his own way.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Again, you weren’t privvy to the conversation, Teach. You don’t know how it went.

You do know she definitely acted petulent, because there is no need to act so disrespectful to the President. It’s a clear sign of insecurity.

Anonymous

Again, you weren’t privvy to the conversation, Teach. You don’t know how it went.

Neither do you. So where do you get off assuming that Brewer was “acting petulant”? There are a thousand and one reasons why someone might point their finger at another person. Why are you assuming that Brewer was doing or saying anything disrespectful at that moment?

Oh right, because you’re an Obamawhore.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Are you looking at the same photo?

And you guys certainly assumed a lot about Obama on this post. I have a photo, and you’re saying I am assuming?
Anonymous

Yes, I’m saying you are assuming.

You have a photo of a woman pointing at someone. Precisely what does that “prove”?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

That he is being rude and disrespectful.

Plus, this is the President, which is bigger than one man.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

How do you know she wasn’t pointing out a glob of mustard on his chin or food in his teeth, you ASSUME you know why she pointed the finger.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

And what did you guys do?
Anonymous

“That he is being rude and disrespectful.”

So it’s your contention that there is absolutely no possible reason for one person to point at another person except to be rude?

“Plus, this is the President, which is bigger than one man.”

So the President is allowed to be rude to others but they must always respect him back. Got it.

“And what did you guys do?”

We made an educated hypothesis based on Gov. Brewer’s testimony and Obama’s prior behavior toward people who have been critical of him in the past.

You however saw a photo of a woman pointing in the general direction of someone and immediately jump to “OMG SHE WAS SO RUDE U GAIZ!!”
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

We didn’t assume I conjectured based on HIS past actions that he was as bad as she was.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

LOL. Okay. You conjectured.

http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

You weren’t privy, either, yet that didn’t stop you from saying that Brewer was rude.
http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

You weren’t privy, either, yet that didn’t stop you from saying that Brewer was rude.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

The picture doesn’t lie, Teach. He may have called her a #$%^, he may been very polite.

But we know she was rude.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Walking away while someone is still talking is also rude, which apparently you are overlooking. Most polite people have to be pushed to get to the pointing fingers level. So what did Obama say that pushed Brewer?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

If someone started pointing their finger at me, I would walk away also.
Anonymous

How do you know she was rude? Again, there are a thousand and one reasons why one person might point their finger at someone. Why do you automatically assume that Brewer was being rude but Obama was not?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

uh, there’s a photo showing she was rude.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

uh, there’s a photo showing she was rude.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

So pointing a finger is ALWAYS rude??? that’s a hell of an suumption in and of itself.!!!
Anonymous

“uh, there’s a photo showing she was rude.”

No, there’s a photo showing she was pointing. For all you know she could have been pointing to him and saying “You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.” At least, if we’re judging solely by the picture. If we’re also judging by the testimony of Gov. Brewer, then Obama was being rude to her.
President Friedman

Maybe she was playing the old “you’ve got a little something on your shirt” trick on him, and rather than look down and get poked in the face, he just decided to walk away.

Given the lack of details we have on the actual conversation, that is just as likely as any other hypothesis…
Guest

PF, you ever see a governor in a POTUS’s face like with their finger pointing?

Unless Obama called her a wench as old and dusty as rural Arizona, Brewer should be ashamed.
Guest

PF, you ever see a governor in a POTUS’s face like with their finger pointing?

Unless Obama called her a wench as old and dusty as rural Arizona, Brewer should be ashamed.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

PF, you ever see a governor in a POTUS’s face like with their finger pointing?

Unless Obama called her a wench as old and dusty as rural Arizona, Brewer should be ashamed.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

You should be ashamed for making assumptions.
Anonymous

“PF, you ever see a governor in a POTUS’s face like with their finger pointing?”

I’ve never seen a governor offering the President a strawberry either. So what?

Unless you’re prepared to argue that there is absolutely no good reason to point at another human being except to be rude you have no reason to assume anything based solely on the picture.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

There is a picture right there, dude. That is rude to do to the POTUS. The POTUS is also an American institution, not just Obama.
Anonymous

Reasons I just came up with off the top of my head for why Gov. Brewer might have been pointing:

- Something caught in Obama’s teeth.

- Mustard on his shirt.

- He forgot to straighten his tie.

- Using the word “one” in a sentence with accompanying gesture.

- Picture was taken just after she finished scratching her nose.

There. That’s five different reasons for why she might have been pointing in the general direction of Obama that don’t involve her being rude. Yet you automatically assume that she was.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

You seem to be falling over yourself making excuses for Brewer, and yet you JUMPED to conclusion when it came to Obama. You are the one who’s a whore.
Anonymous

“You seem to be falling over yourself making excuses for Brewer,”

On the contrary, I’m not making any excuses at all. I’m positive that Brewer was pointing at Obama because they were having an angry argument, which was sparked by Obama’s rude and condescending attitude towards her. I’ve arrived at this conclusion based on the testimony of Gov. Brewer.

YOU on the other hand have nothing but a photograph to “prove” your point. Yet you immediately jump to the conclusion that Brewer must be the rude one, based solely on a single snapshot in which she appears to be pointing at Obama. All I did was suggest a series of equally plausible explanations for why Brewer might have been pointing her finger in the general direction of Obama. If you were really judging solely by the photo and nothing else you would admit that those explanations are just as plausible.

But you don’t. You immediately ASSUME that Brewer was being “rude”. And then you accuse others of assuming.

Logic. You’re doing it wrong.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Again, ONLY if what YOU assumed of the conversation is accurate. And if someone acts disrepectful to me whether it’s you or POTUS or Queen Elizabeth, I’ll not take it lying down. Brewer stood up to the Bully in Chief. Who, in turn, could only throw a tantrum and walk away. (My take on the event as accurate as yours.)

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Nope. Because you have no idea of what transpired in the conversation.

We do know, for a fact, that she was rude and disrespectful because we have a photo.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Pointing finger is ALWAYS rude? Where the fuck did you learn manors?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

In that picture it is. If I were talking to you like that, you would be fine and wouldn’t consider it rude?
Anonymous

“In that picture it is. If I were talking to you like that, you would be fine and wouldn’t consider it rude?”

If you were talking to me like what? As you yourself admitted none of us knows the content of their conversation. So you have no basis to assume anything about how she was talking.

But you do anyway, because you’re an Obamawhore.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Like I said, you’re the whore. You’re the one who made assumptions based on NOTHING.

I made an OBSERVATION based on DOCUMENT proof.

But that’s the standard M.O. for you guys. Act obnoxious, rude, lie if you have to, and then blame someone else when you are called on it.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Like I said, you’re the whore. You’re the one who made assumptions based on NOTHING.

I made an OBSERVATION based on DOCUMENT proof.

But that’s the standard M.O. for you guys. Act obnoxious, rude, lie if you have to, and then blame someone else when you are called on it.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

How was he talking, how was she talking? We don’t know, the words were supposedly loud, but maybe they were talking over noise, they are an airport tarmac.

The whole point anyone is making, besides you, is that it’s all assumption.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

No, the assumption you guys made is that Obama was rude and got what he deserved. You can’t have it both ways.
Anonymous

“I made an OBSERVATION based on DOCUMENT proof.”

No, you made an ASSUMPTION based on a photograph that was colored by your own biases.

You have a photo of a woman pointing at someone. If you were to base your opinion solely on this photo, not on your feelings about Brewer or Obama, you have no reason to automatically assume rudeness.

Instead, you are doing the opposite. You are letting your own personal feelings about Brewer and Obama influence how you interpret this photo. According to you, there is no possible explanation for why Brewer would point at Obama except that she was being rude. Why? Because you hate Brewer and love Obama.

Anonymous

You know her behaviour was uncalled for because *you* were privvy to the conversation, right? I mean, you’re not a hypocrite are you?

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

But there’s a certain lack of respect when it comes to sticking your finger in the face of someone.

Well, I think its probably more respectful to not, and its something that used to annoy me about President Clinton. At the same time, in the heat of a discussion, it happens so I’m not too concerned about it. What is more significant to me is that the president of the United States would so hilariously display exactly what he complained about being called.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Are you telling me that is not disrespectful based on the picture alone? No conclusions or assumptions, but looking at the picture alone?

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

I clearly said in plain English “I think its probably more respectful to not” so what exactly are you challenging here?

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I thought you meant it’s more disrespectful to not point your finger.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I thought you meant it’s more disrespectful to not point your finger.

Anonymous

Obama getting testy with Brewer? I think you got it backwards, Teach!

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

The fact that Obama went to AZ for this conversation proves HE was testy. But then facts and reality were never your strong suits fizzle.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

He went to AZ for other reasons.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Really, more assumptions from Vega? He invited Brewer to talk to him, so HE went to AZ for the conversation, among other things. Otherwise he could have just avoided her all together.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

No, he went to AZ to sell the policy points he made in the SOTU.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

But found it necessary to speak to Brewer why? Oh yeah to bitch about her book!!
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Which is his friggin’ right.
Anonymous

“Which is his friggin’ right.”

Whether or not it was his “right” is irrelevant. It was bitchy and rude of him to do it.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Your premise is irrelevant. Because you don’t know how it went down.

You are a walking hypocrisy, samurai. Just admit that as long as it disrespects Obama, you’re all in. I am embarrassed for you.
Anonymous

Yes, Obama now knows he should have avoided her. Brewer is one nasty woman. Imagine being married to her and getting her finger shook at you when you disagree.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Brewer is nasty really! You have a pretty broad definition of nasty if pointing a finger is all it takes. And I’sd marry long before I’d LOOK at the First Wookie.

Anonymous

Are you blind or just plain stupid. I think it is the latter.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Well let’s see there was NO need for him to talk to her was there but there he was making a point of meeting her on the tarmac. If he hadn’t asked her to be there she wouldn’t have been. Or do you think she asked to speak to him?

Anonymous

Ah yes, the patented Fiza “Nuh uh!” defense.

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

President Obama is the ultimate example of the “participation trophy” generation. He’s in a position he didn’t earn, was raised with continual assurances of his greatness, and unable to stand even the slightest criticism or damage to his vast ego.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Excuse you, he earned his position.

Anonymous

Apparently the word “earn” must be defined differently in your dictionary.
Anonymous

Apparently the word “earn” must be defined differently in your dictionary.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

You should look it up, then.

Anonymous

I did. It means “to gain or incur deservedly in return for one’s behavior or achievements”. Obama has no achievements and his behavior back in 2008 was undeserving of any political office, let alone the office of the President.

He did not earn it. He was given it.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

I know you guys believe that. It’s why you can’t accept he’s President. It’s why some of you are determine to prove he’s not even American.

However, the FACT is a candidate EARNS the votes in the primary and EARNS the votes in the election.

He did so. To the tune of a majoriity of the vote. The biggest margin for a Democrat in decades. More votes than anyone has gotten in history.

he “gained” those vote “deservedly” for his “behavior” and “achievements”.

I don’t care if you can’t accept that. You still gotta deal with it.
Anonymous

“However, the FACT is a candidate EARNS the votes in the primary and EARNS the votes in the election.”

So the mere fact that someone has something can only mean that they earned it? In that case, will liberals stop whining about “unearned profits”? (No, of course you won’t. what a silly question.)

Saying that Obama “earned” the Presidency is like me saying I “earned” $1,000 because someone walked up and shoved a wad of ten $100 bills into my hand.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

You don’t EARN the presidency, Vega. It’s a contest that he won. It was a vote based on how well he sold himself.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

uh, that’s earning it.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

No earning it would be actually deserving it for the experience he had and brought to the position. No politician EARN’s the post.
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

All politicians earn their post, unless the election was fixed. It’s a competition.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

You really do need to learn the meaning of words. We’ve had this argument with you before and you have been proven wrong several times.

Politicians do NOT earn their office.

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

I’d argue that he did not. He was handed the presidency by a protective and incredibly supportive press, in an election season when people hated Republicans, against an opponent no one liked, larded up with a gigantic amount of cash (much of which was foreign money). He didn’t earn it, or the previous position (he even ran unopposed for state legislature). He’s been given everything, never had to fight or work hard, and throws a fit whenever he faces opposition.

http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Nonsense. The guy came from humble beginnings. And worked very hard to to even get his education.

Would I have liked for him to have MORE experience? Sure. But to say he didn’t earn his Presidency is more rightwing sour grapes.

What’s going to be the excuse if he is reelected? The media?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Nonsense. The guy came from humble beginnings. And worked very hard to to even get his education.

Would I have liked for him to have MORE experience? Sure. But to say he didn’t earn his Presidency is more rightwing sour grapes.

What’s going to be the excuse if he is reelected? The media?

Anonymous

Hey, can I see the results of his hard work getting educated? Where would that be posted?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

Harvard.edu.

J.D. Magna Cum Laude

Thanks for playing.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

I don’t see his transcripts. Hell I don’t even see proof he even attended the school.
Anonymous

Nonsense. The guy came from humble beginnings.

The guy was shuttled off to live with his well-to-do grandparents in Hawaii and attend one of the state’s most prestigious private schools.

You’ve been pushing this “humble beginnings” line since 2008. It wasn’t true then, and it isn’t now.

And worked very hard to to even get his education.

How would you know? Have you seen his transcripts? Could you send us a copy?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

- That’s a myth. Obama came from humble beginnings which is well-documented. Please submit your proof (of course you won’t) that he was well-to-o.

- Secondly, he GRADUATE MAGNA CUM LAUDE FROM HARVARD LAW. That’s a publicly documented FACT. You think they thought he may one day become President?

So we had the Birthers (and still do), and now we have the Transcriptors.

“I don’t believe it! Harvard is conspiring! Even if he produces them I will call them a forgery!”

What a joke.
Anonymous

“Obama came from humble beginnings which is well-documented.”

No, his father came from humble beginnings. Obama spent his childhood living with his wealthy grandparents and attending a prestigious private school. He then went on to attend one of the premier Ivy League universities. He was privileged by every definition of the term.

“- Secondly, he GRADUATED MAGNA CUM LAUDE FROM HARVARD LAW.”

I guess you’ve never heard of things like “grade inflation” before. Since no one has ever seen his transcript and no one has yet come forward to say they knew him in college we have no idea what kind of student he really was.

This wouldn’t even be an issue were it not for the fact that George W. Bush’s college transcripts were big news back in 2004. So why all the obfuscation now?
Anonymous

“Obama came from humble beginnings which is well-documented.”

No, his father came from humble beginnings. Obama spent his childhood living with his wealthy grandparents and attending a prestigious private school. He then went on to attend one of the premier Ivy League universities. He was privileged by every definition of the term.

“- Secondly, he GRADUATED MAGNA CUM LAUDE FROM HARVARD LAW.”

I guess you’ve never heard of things like “grade inflation” before. Since no one has ever seen his transcript and no one has yet come forward to say they knew him in college we have no idea what kind of student he really was.

This wouldn’t even be an issue were it not for the fact that George W. Bush’s college transcripts were big news back in 2004. So why all the obfuscation now?
http://www.vega.com/ Vega – Poli-Cultural Humorist

“Grade Inflation”????

What a load of garbage, dude. You sound like a Birther. Stop your nonsense.
Anonymous

“What a load of garbage, dude.”

How do you know it’s a load of garbage? Have you seen the transcript? Have you spoken to anyone who knew Obama when he was in college and can testify to his academic abilities?

You brought this on yourselves, you know. You made a huge deal about Bush’s college grades back in 2004, and now you have a liberal President who refuses to even let people see his grades.

JoeBritton

Just who is this lady?

“Brewer became Governor of Arizona as part of the line of succession, as determined by the Arizona constitution.
Born in California, Brewer attended Glendale Community College where she received a radiological technologist certificate, but never earned a degree. She has served as a State Senator and State Representative for Arizona, from 1983 to 1996. Brewer also served as Chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, before running for Arizona Secretary of State in 2002.”

I’ve met radiology technicians, the people who put you those scans then press buttons. Ah, now we see where the finger came from. More,

“In response to the various personal attacks launched against her (for her bigotry against Hispanics), many of which called her a Nazi, she responded: “Knowing that my father died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany, that I lost him when I was 11 because of that… and then to have them call me Hitler’s daughter. It hurts. It’s ugliness beyond anything I’ve ever experienced.”

Well with Hitler it was Jews; with you honey, it’s Hispanics.
JoeBritton

Just who is this lady?

“Brewer became Governor of Arizona as part of the line of succession, as determined by the Arizona constitution.
Born in California, Brewer attended Glendale Community College where she received a radiological technologist certificate, but never earned a degree. She has served as a State Senator and State Representative for Arizona, from 1983 to 1996. Brewer also served as Chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, before running for Arizona Secretary of State in 2002.”

I’ve met radiology technicians, the people who put you in those scans then press buttons, but never a failed one. Is that a hard course of study? However, now we see where the finger came from. More,

“In response to the various personal attacks launched against her (for her bigotry against Hispanics), many of which called her a Nazi, she responded: “Knowing that my father died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany, that I lost him when I was 11 because of that… and then to have them call me Hitler’s daughter. It hurts. It’s ugliness beyond anything I’ve ever experienced.”

Well with Hitler it was Jews; with you honey, it’s Hispanics.

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

John Hawkins, please ban this filth.

Anonymous

Agreed. He isn’t even entertaining anymore. He’s just irritating.

Martin Hale

I’ve met radiology technicians, the people who put you in those scans then press buttons, but never a failed one.

Poor, addle-pated Shergald. Once again he enters the breech to comment on that which he plainly doesn’t understand.

In a number of medical disciplines, licensure, certification or registration is independent of any recognised degree e.g. AA/AS, BA/BS, MA/MS. Disciplines requiring licensure are almost always regulated by the State Board of Licensing. Certification or Registration might be run by either the State, or by a professional body. All that is to say that in some disciplines, people can become licensed certified or registered without having to accomplish any particular academic programme. For these disciplines, not having a degree does not make one a “failed” anything. Not obtaining the appropriate certification, licence or registration does.

But I’m wasting my time telling you this, you don’t care one jot about facts or reality – you have an agenda to flog.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Can you source this drivel?

Joetote

Just a reminder here! He is the President. HE IS NOT A KING! As Gov. Brewer
said, she’ll respect the office, but she sure as hell does not have to respect
the man, especially when the man is someone who seems to feel he is a king.

This President has more than once shown his disdain for the groveling
masses, preferring to threaten rather than govern. After listening to his Bull
S… session the other night, the only thing I can see is he now feels he is in
fact the dictator he wants to be. What I saw harkens back to the days of
Hitler, Stalin or whatever dictator you care to mention. For you libbies out
there, I’m not referring to him as a murdering scum as Hitler was. However
since most libbies refuse to even learn history, Hitler was a great orator who
managed to fool the public with his lies while amassing power. When confronted,
he pulled exactly what President Bozo did with Gov. Brewer. He talked down to,
threatened, etc. and always took umbrage to anything bad written or said about him.
That is historical fact! Of course, the leftists and for that matter the
establishment RINO scum don’t bother to learn from the facts. Only power
counts.

In this country we have the right to stand up to and speak out against those
who would want to destroy our way of life. Gov. Brewer did this, first in her
book and then face to face with the President. A citizen of the United States
stood her ground to a wanna be tin horn dictator! Good for her. How sad that so
many in this country refuse to stand for their basic rights!
Joetote

In reading all of the below comments. one thing really strikes me as odd. The poor little boy in the White House is supposedly being shown a lack of respect by the mean lady in Arizona! Moron Alert. The clown spoke down to the people of this country in the most demeaning, condescending tone, one of which was akin to a no count dictator reminding everyone who is in charge and for the rest to basically go to hell and there are people defending this no count when a person stands up to him? what in the hell am I missing here? This bozo has demand the office of the President to the point that no one around the world has any respect for us any more. the fact that Gov. Brewer had the brass kahonies to actually stand up to him is not only refreshing but reminds us he is not a king! Again good for her!
Joetote

Lets put this another way. Today here in Vegas, a radio station was asking if you would have your picture taken with the President whether you liked him or not. I said no because I feel he is such an embarrassment to the office and the country that I could not remotely stand by someone who I feel is against everything I and our founding fathers hold dear!

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