I agree that there are a lot of leftist mysoginists out there. But I've also been kind of alarmed over the last year or two at the number of conservative identifying men I know who are lining up w/ the Men's Rights Movement. I don't find anything inherently wrong w/ the issues Men's Rights Movement is involved in, but you can't go to any website where these issues are discussed without being comletely mortified by the attitude of the posters there (especially in the comments sections) about women, and specifically American women. And these sites almost always end up being tangetially linked to “game” sites where the tone is even worse than the MRM posts.

It's a real issue that manhood has a tough time finding a workable role in modern society, even moreso in metropolitan areas, but the solution is NOT for men to act like a) whiny little girls or b) the absolute lowest common demonator of the worst stereotypes about men. We need to do better, regardless of our political ideologies.

Christopher Taylor has some great and insightful posts about masculinity and the modern male over at his site, Word Around The Net.

Also, one of my favorite guy sites addresses these issues fairly often: http://www.artofmanliness.com.

All special interest liberal groups are like that. Black conservatives are simply whitey's pawns if you ask the NAACP. Most of these groups operate under the guise of special interest groups, when in reality they are just fronts to help them spread their liberal agendas.

It's not that they hate women necessarily. They just don't tend to think of them as human. Women are tools that are useful at times to implement their policies.

But what do you do with a tool that doesn't do it's job? You scream at it, throw it away and storm off (if you're a liberal at least).

That's all it is. Women who don't perform as expected are essentially defective tools to them. To be blamed for their failures, cursed out, and replaced.

Pres,

At least you can admit that there are Conservative men out there that are hating on women. Unlike Melissa who cant convince herself that Conservative men can do no wrong. It is troubling no matter what your beliefs. Women deserve respect for being human beings.

Melissa never said Conservative men can do no wrong, crthns. The voices in your head are lying to you again.

Did your prescription run out again?

And where do you get that idea, it's not like she even mentions conservative men, one way or the other? Or do you ASSUME that becuase she doesn't scour the internet for conservative male misogyny, that she wouldn't condemn it?

Learn to R E A D!!

“One thing I realized early on in this business is that the supposed haters were not the conservative, white, middle-aged males. Those were my readers.”

Learn to R E A D!!

“One thing I realized early on in this business is that the supposed haters were not the conservative, white, middle-aged males. Those were my readers.”

Piss off, Martha!

U R reading and weeping, R U stan?

By definition, a liberal can not be a misogynist.

By Definition? Are you serious?

Just like “by definition” a black person cannot be racist, right?
Please…
Sarah Palin and Michele Malkin would like to have a word with you about that comment.

TR

While Conservatives (and this – sadly – includes Conservative women) enjoy keeping “the little woman” in “her place”. And that place is subservience.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Liberal

A liberal is not and can not be a misogynist, by definition. Facts of life.

And name for me ONE Democrat that is currently a by-definition Liberal, Huron.

Yeah, that's what I thought!

Well, they are the Democratic Party. Not the Liberal Party.

It depend on which specific set of liberal's you are talking about DUMBASS, since they are all seperate definitions. One can be POLITICALLY liberal, and still be a misogynist, because the two not necessarily overlap. Thanks for proving yet again, you failed Basic English.

Does Melissa talk about ALL conservative males, retard, or just her readers in that statement, I see simple logic is way over your head again!! It's logical that since she didn't include ALL then she was talking only about the ones who were readers, and therefor that subset was NOT misogynist. EPIC FAIL!

You need to learn to read for comprehension!!!!

Does Melissa talk about ALL conservative males, retard, or just her readers in that statement, I see simple logic is way over your head again!! It's logical that since she didn't include ALL then she was talking only about the ones who were readers, and therefor that subset was NOT misogynist. EPIC FAIL!

You need to learn to read for comprehension!!!!

Dear Lord, it is painful that you are so ignorant, and amusing that you are so proud of it. Your concept of logic is so limited as to be meaningless. Much as are you.

Proof please, other than the voices in your head.

Pot meet kettle.

Please show us all your brilliance, marthtwat, show us how Melissa says ALL consevative males are free missogynism.

“free missogynism. ” lol

Ooooh I had a typo, how will I ever get over this blow to my self esteem?

So I see you couldn't actually counter the facts.

So you can''t name even one by-definition Liberal.

Thanks, huron, you and your moronic definition are dismissed!

Two typos, dummkopf.

The “fact” (if you knew how to read) is the statement “One thing I realized early on in this business is that the supposed haters were not the conservative, white, middle-aged males.”

You know – she is even using English.

True, by definition a liberal is not a bigot.

However that's the traditional definition of liberal which has nothing to do with what modern people identify as liberal.

Modern liberals tend to be quite bigoted, hiding it only when necessary to achieve some particular end.

I think she must not have been paying attention during the 2008 election.

The sexism directed at Palin by Obama supporters was quite intense.

No even to consider the sexism directed at Hillary as well. Obama did not care who he crushed in order to win.

That doesn't state anything about all conservatives.

For it to do so it would have to be stated that every single conservative read her blog. I do not think that is the case.

“One thing I realized early on in this business is that the supposed haters were not the conservative, white, middle-aged males. Those were my readers.“

You conveniently left our this little part of her commentary, where she is talking ONLY about her readers, and since not every conservative male reads her blog, she is not in fact including them all.

So again YOU are taking one sentence, out of context, to support your lies. Next you'll try to tell us the sun rises in the west!

Yeah, there's nothing conservative about hating women, but there are a lot of men out there who really bash women. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of problems with American women because of our culture and the almost total loss of the concept of what femininity and womanhood really means, but that doesn't excuse some of the really angry rhetoric out there.

It would be good if you could admit that many on the left are very hateful toward women if they happen to stray from the leftist plantation.

Good, but highly unlikely.

No, it is you who takes an independent sentence out of context and extrapolates its meaning.

So much for your “logic”.

The concept of what femininity and womanhood are depends upon the individual woman. That's one of the points about women being subjugated.

I agree that there are a lot of leftist mysoginists out there. But I've also been kind of alarmed over the last year or two at the number of conservative identifying men I know who are lining up w/ the Men's Rights Movement. I don't find anything inherently wrong w/ the issues Men's Rights Movement is involved in, but you can't go to any website where these issues are discussed without being comletely mortified by the attitude of the posters there (especially in the comments sections) about women, and specifically American women.

I've never heard of this “Men's Rights Movement” myself, but whatever.

First of all, I question whether the supposed anti-woman attitude of these “Men's Rights” websites is any worse than the anti-male attitude of any given feminist website.

Second, is there any reason to believe that this alleged anti-woman attitude is anything but a reaction to the anti-male attitude of mainstream feminists? What I mean is, is there any evidence that these men actually believe the things you claim you've heard them say about woman?

Okay, let's say we believe you.

According to the definition that you just cited, by definition a liberal ALSO cannot favor gun control, welfare, clean air regulations, zoning laws, Affirmative Action, or single-payer healthcare.

All of those things constrain individual freedom, and a liberal, by the definition you cite, is someone who is “favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.”

Kinda like the liberals who said Sarah Palin should've resigned from the campaign so she could go home and concentrate on her children?

The concept of what femininity and womanhood are depends upon the individual woman.

Right. That must be why feminists talk down to and insult women who choose to be stay-at-home mothers or who just disagree with feminism in general.

Sadly, many on the left are, which sort of makes your attempt to make the dictionary definition into reality even more pathetic.

Why, yes, to one woman feminine might mean being a tree, and to another it might mean being a rainbow of silver mist from Venus!

Relativist idiot.

Which is why “liberals” should be called “statists,” as Mark Levin calls them.

Flagged for moving the goalposts. You know fully well the modern vs. classical definition of liberal.

Which is why Sarah Plain is in front and center. Oh, wait…

Wow. Pwned in a couple of posts.

And I'd like for you to admit that there was (and is) disgusting misogyny and vile slander on your side against Palin. Admit it.

Learn to ARGUE!!!

But that would mean that the people who call themselves “liberal” today have anything at all in common with those who coined the term, and we all know that certainly isn't true.

Oh look martha the emotional liberal, schooling me on 'logic'. More epic fail, by the original queen of EPIC FAIL.

Or is it backlash against the feminizing of men and the metrosexualization movement. A move back towards strong masculinity that of course goes about two steps too far into macho asshole, instead of just strong and competitve male.

Just ask an aborted baby girl what the left thinks of women. Oh wait you can't, because she's dead.