So, Obasocialist Care Passed. What Next?

Written By : William Teach

First, the supporters, also known as Constitution and freedom haters, most of whom do not even understand the legislation (including those Congress people who voted for it,) will get to gloat a bit. Fine. You won. Barely. I’m not quite sure how one can call a 219-212 vote a victory, when the bipartisanship was on the side of voting against the bill (34 Democrats vote in favor of less government and more freedom). Has there ever been such a sweeping piece of legislation passed that affects every American’s life passed with such a narrow vote? No.

What happens now? First of all, as Michelle Malkin points out, three states, South Carolina, Virginia, and Florida will file federal Constitutional lawsuits. Nine other states are expected to follow suit, no pun intended.

John at Powerline points out

The health care bill’s taxes will go into effect promptly, but its substantive provisions are, for the most part, deferred for four years. This means that we have plenty of time to repeal the legislation. Sure, it will take a new Congress and new President. But repealing this disaster of a bill will by a rallying cry for the American people for years to come. Moreover, even if the Republicans only take over the House in November, and not the Senate, won’t it be possible to throw roadblocks in the way of the bill’s implementation? Won’t budget appropriations be necessary to sustain the various federal tentacles the bill seeks to establish? What will happen if the House simply refuses to fund them?

If Republicans are smart, and they have done a very good job in highlighting the problems with this legislation, as well as sticking together through this whole mess, taking the position of the majority of Americans, they will beat the drum right up through the November elections. There is a great chance for retaking at least the House, and perhaps the Senate. If they do retake at least the House, they need to pass quick and dirty legislation repealing what Andrea Tantaros calls the “biggest abuse of power and arrogance Washington has ever seen” on a daily basis. If they do not control the Senate, it gets killed there. If they control both, it goes to Obama, who will veto it. And would have to veto it on a daily basis, further eroding his standing with We The People.

At that point, Republicans could work towards passing common sense legislation that addresses the actual issues, using what Ann Coulter calls “free market solutions.” Yes, they might have to compromise and include some measures Conservatives might not like, the stickiest being, most likely, a way to insure those with pre-existing conditions. There could even be some type of tiny government exchange for people like that. Time will tell.

Some on the right are pessimistic about the ability of the Republicans to do away with Obasocialist Care because it can be very hard to get rid of entitlement programs. Well, good news! Most do not kick in for years. But, the taxes do. Let’s take a look at the timeline, via my horrible Dem House member’s (Brad Miller NC-13) website. In 2010 we get quite a bit of action, most being taxes and infrastructure

Immediate Access to Insurance for Uninsured Individuals with a Pre?Existing Condition
Small Business Tax Credit
Eliminating Pre?Existing Condition Exclusions for Children
Prohibiting Rescissions (most people, including Republicans, have no problem with stopping insurance companies from dropping people who get sick and have been paying their premiums)
Eliminating Lifetime Limits and Restricting Use of Annual Limits
Covering Preventive Health Services. All new group health plans and plans in the individual market must provide first dollar coverage for preventive services.
Extending Dependent Coverage

I’m not going to list every one of the things that kick in in 2010, as the rest are simply infrastructure and taxation. The above are the toughies to do away with, not that they want to do away with rescissions.

Mark Steyn stays on the sunny side of the street

Longer wait times, fewer doctors, more bureaucracy, massive IRS expansion, explosive debt, the end of the Pax Americana, and global Armageddon. Must try to look on the bright side . . .

Which is why Republicans and pundits on the right need to continue to beat the drum on this issue right up to the election and beyond. Democrats, once they get done with their gloating, will shift to a mindset that “this is done. It’s passed. We’re moving on. Stop looking in the past.” They will look towards Cap and Tax, amnesty, and other big government legislation. Don’t. Let. Up!

Crossed at Pirate’s Cove

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Bildo

I wouldn’t have a problem with most of the items listed if they were part of a comprehensive overhaul that addressed cost issues. The problems I have with the bill are:

1. Required coverage: People should have the right to not carry insurance if they choose, and the public should have no obligation to care for them if they become ill.

2. Taxation: This is nothing more than a transfer of income. It’s not a wealth transfer, because wealth is not being taxed; it is an income transfer. They are taking my hard earned money and spending it for someone else’s benefit. The wealthy get wealthier while the middle class gets raped.

3. Turning healthcare into a “Right.” What they are really saying is that they have the Right to take money and property from one person and give it to another of their choosing. That is not compassion, and it is not a “Right”. It is tyranny.

4. Requiring that businesses provide health insurance or be penalized. This will decimate small business. Some businesses are just too small to be profitable if you require this massive new cost. Small manufacturers, who have to compete with companies in Asia that don’t have this cost, will simply shut down. Larger companies will send even more jobs overseas. Ex: Caterpillar’s announcement that this bill will increase their insurance costs by 25% ($100 million) in the first year. One of the few manufacturing industries where the U.S. is still dominant and this law will kill it. Expect Cat to close plants and deport a lot of jobs starting in late 2011.

5. Kills off individual policies. I have a HSA, high deductible policy, and I love it. It’s cheap; $100 per month. It has a $5,000 deductible, and it allows me to put $2700 per year into an HSA tax free. I can use that money for any medically related expense. This law will destroy the HSA, and I’ll have to eventually sign up for the government plan. It will cost me more money, and will not perform as well for me.
Power_System_Oper

Check the OP’s “immediate impact list.”

Everything on that list became an issue because some bad actors in the insurance industry chose to put short term above the interests of their customers. Such bad apples taint the whole barrell. A basic principle of business is that putting customers first will head the business toward the path of long term profitability. If bussiness associations would police their own holding the business community to high ethicl standards, there would be little clamor from the public for governemnt intervention. How to do that you might ask? It sort of falls into “get out in front” category. Ethical business should be pro-active and very aggressive with informing the public of bad actors in the business community. Shine a bright lighat, and the rats quickly leave.
D-Vega

What’s next?

Financial Reform, Immigration Reform, Education Reform and Energy Reform.
http://www.thepiratescove.us William_Teach

Say, PowerSO, what would you say about a bad actor that denies over 5% of insurance claims?
Mr_e_m_t

In reply to the question of what should be next:

Throw the treasonous bastards in jail for overthrowing our constitution and our government. They all took oaths to uphold and protect and should have their jobs taken from them immediately.

It is not open for debate anymore.
CoolCzech

What’s next?

November elections. Obamacare repeal. Department of Education and Department of Energy dismantled. Obama defeated. EPA brought to heel.
Smithwick

What other rights (since healthcare is a right now apparently) are mandatory? Did you have to own a gun, carry a sign, refuse to testify against yourself?

The only potential silver lining in this is that it riles up enough people to hand a supermajority to the republicans along with the whitehouse. And that they actually use that momentum to get this and other onerous measures The One has implemented (and likley will implement in the future) thrown out.

Alot of ifs there. Not feeling too confident right now.
Power_System_Oper

Cool Czech: “November elections…Department of Education and Department of Energy dismantled.”

Good luck with that. Not anytime soon unless the 150 or so other spineless GOP members of the House of Representatives get on board with Rep Paul Ryan’s detailed plan of specific spending cuts which will balance the federal budget without having to raise taxes. Fat chance of that ever happening. They and their Leader Boehner only desire to use conservatives in order to regain majority status so that they can then be the ones who deal out the pork rather than Peolosi and her minions.

“Eliminate the Department of Energy.” Where have I heard that one before? Oh yes, that was one of Ronald Reagan’s favorite campaign promises to conservatives. Then once RR became President, it was “adios amigos..its under the bus with you.”
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