“Sweeping” Health System Plans Pass By 5 Votes

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“Sweeping” Health System Plans Pass By 5 Votes

Written By : William Teach

You have to wonder what the Founders, who shed blood to create a new country, would think about this

Handing President Obama a hard-fought victory, the House narrowly approved a sweeping overhaul of the nation’s health care system on Saturday night, advancing legislation that Democrats said could stand as their defining social policy achievement.

I’m not quite sure how this is a victory for Obama, considering he had little to no hand in creating this monstrosity, other than some pep talks and spam emails. The victory belongs to Nancy Pelosi. Sort of.

After a daylong clash with Republicans over what has been a Democratic goal for decades, lawmakers voted 220 to 215 to approve a plan that would cost $1.1 trillion over 10 years. Democrats said the legislation would provide overdue relief to Americans struggling to buy or hold on to health insurance.

Just Republicans? By everyone’s reckoning, 39 Democrats voted “no.” And one massively squishy Republican. And the plan, like every government plan, will cost well more than $1.1 trillion, a number the Fish Wrap of Record throws around like it is no big deal.

“This is our moment to revolutionize health care in this country,” said Representative George Miller, Democrat of California and one of the chief architects of the bill.

Hey, a Dem spoke truth! Would sound a whole lot better if you could hear it in a 1930′s Russian or German accent.

Democrats were forced to make major concessions on insurance coverage for abortions to attract the final votes to secure passage, a wrenching compromise for the numerous abortion-rights advocates in their ranks.

In other words, massive bribes, adding billions of pork that will not be part of the CBO scoring of $1.1 trillion.

Many of them hope to make changes to the amendment during negotiations with the Senate, which will now become the main battleground in the health care fight as Democrats there ready their own bill for what is likely to be extensive floor debate.

In other words, you can expect the abortion ban to be stripped out in one manner or another.

But, this all comes down to a simple fact: the entire American health system will be changed on a bare majority vote. Five votes. If this legislation is so super duper fantastic, why were Republicans completely shut out? Why did 39 Democrats say no? You would think that a piece of legislation of this stature would get, nay, would require, more that 215 votes to pass.

Around the blogosphere, most are expecting this to fail in the Senate. But now is the time for the GOP to get its act together and get folks who will run against Democrats across the country in 2010. Now is the time for the GOP to work its tail off to expose this legislation for what it is: an extremely costly push for single payer and control over individual lives, private companies, and Central government.

On the good side, we have time to get Republicans elected who can immediately, their first day in office, to void this horrendous craptacular legislation before this horrendous craptacular legislation takes effect.

Crossed at Pirate’s Cove

CoolCzech

Wrenching compromise on abortion my ass: restoring abortion funding will be the first betrayal of America should this thing be enacted.
Jack Schite

Do you think the founding fathers envisioned companies profiting from health care at the same time there is inadequare coverage for a huge percentage of the population?

Why do you always put profit over people? Because you think business has more ethics than the average person I guess. Business ethics means paying as little out for actual health care as possible while pocketing the difference a profit.
http://www.comics.com/editoons/asay/ Zheldon

Yay, we are so headed toward that socialist utopia of equal misery. Cannot let anyone have any level of “the easy life”.
William Teach

I’ll ask again, Jackie: can you tell us exactly how this 1,900 page bill will actually lower costs? Details.
Hawc18

The founding fathers envisioned a country where the people where allowed to keep what they toiled for, Jack. Instead we’ve come to the point where what we toil to make for ourselves is taken from us and spread out to whomever claims the most need at the moment. MY dollars should go to the health and well being of MY family, and those I care about. If anyone would care to be charitable to a stranger who thinks their handout is a right, by all means, go ahead. I prefer to keep my money where it belongs and deal with any company I know will profit me the best, without our ever expanding govt making my decisions for me. I was born with a fully functioning mind, and I’m very able to make my own decisions, as are anyone else.
kingofsiam

If it only passed the house by 5 votes, there is no way it will pass the senate without major, major changes.
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

Now we need to replace that knucklehead Republican who voted for it. He’s better than William “freezer cash” Jefferson who he replaced, but he’s not good enough if he votes like this.
tblrk2006

Posted by Jack Schite
2009-11-08 09:49:50

The founding fathers would not have had an opinion on the subject b/c the govt they set up didnt get involved in such matters.

“A huge percentage of the population?” I didnt know 5% of the population was considered huge? You got your math screwed up dude.

If I was you I would drop out of the obama school of business b/c it isnt the real world.
http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

Do you think the founding fathers envisioned companies profiting from health care at the same time there is inadequare coverage for a huge percentage of the population?

Yes, the Founding Fathers did, in fact, envision people making profit. That’s why they put that whole “right to private property” thing in the Constitution.

Speaking of the Constitution, you should probably read it some time. Or at least have your mom read it to you, since I know you have such trouble with those pesky multi-syllable words.

Why do you always put profit over people? Because you think business has more ethics than the average person I guess.

Why do you always put government control over individual rights? Because you think the government can do no wrong, I guess.
Rose

You have to wonder, is the Senate willing to do what it takes to ensure that the American People do NOT HAVE to take matters into their own hands?

There have been too many Tea Parties – warning shots across the bow – we’ve shown we are ready to do what it takes to NOT MERELY PROTEST towards empty, deaf skies – but to do what it takes to HALT this hi-jacking of a nation!

The House Dims are absolutely insane – drunk with power that is not legitimately theirs, and acting like pre-teens who broke into their father’s liquor cabinet.

But this is far more serious than a drunken spree.

I fear for this nation if the Senate doesn’t shut this down. pronto.

God help us now!
Rose

Posted by kingofsiam
2009-11-08 12:00:58

Because of “reconciliation”, it will NEVER pass the Senate WITH ENOUGH “Major changes”.

This time, the rubber has slammed into the road with all the force of WW3. There is NO ROOM anymore for being a tire dragged by the neck of an overly feisty work animal.

Sure some of you city dudes don’t know what that is, but I’m not likely to back online for a long while to explain it to you.

You can no longer hang onto America “as you know it” and be MERELY a slow drag on the DIM MARXIST Party, without BOTH STOPPING and ALSO DISMANTLING the damage they have done.

You will lose everything that RESEMBLES anything you care about if you merely holler and squeal for naught.

You best get yourselves and your neighbors to your city halls and state capital buildings and make sure your “elected representatives” understand it is time to UNDO the MESS.

IF THEY EXPECT TO STAY OUT OF JAIL.

You do anything less at this point, and you caqn forget any threat of “payback” in the 2010 elections, that will be a bark with NO bite left in it, by next year – at THIS rate.
smelvertising

God help us now!

It is starting to look like He is the only authority that can stop this slide right now.

On the other hand, He didn’t give us free will so we could surrender it for the comfortability of slavery. I’m not hopeful that He will come and save us from our just desserts again.
Iokobos

“Do you think the founding fathers envisioned companies profiting from health care at the same time there is inadequare coverage for a huge percentage of the population?”

This is a flawed question, since the idea of health care insurance didn’t come around until the 1960′s. Prior to that people paid out of pocket and because taxes were low enough and people knew what the medical costs were there were no issues like we see today.

Additionally, the Founding Fathers did not have welfare to non-workers on the brain. They came from a world where you didn’t eat if you didn’t work, unless individual people were willing to offer charity. There was no charity or entitlements from the government.

Lastly, what is so bad about profit? Profits aren’t static; they pay people’s salaries, they are used to buy goods and services, they are invested into the economy and either create more jobs or fund innovation. Meanwhile government taxes take from the productive and give to the slackers who don’t know how to handle money.
William Teach

I wonder how many people Obama could personally provide health insurance with $7+ million he is worth? Why doesn’t he put his $$ where his mouth is, Jackie?
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

They’re all millionaires in congress, but the simple expedient of spending their own money to help people they think need it never occurs to a one of them. Always gotta be other peoples’ money.
http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

Do you think the founding fathers envisioned companies profiting from health care at the same time there is inadequare coverage for a huge percentage of the population?

The Founding Fathers would rightly have concluded that it’s none of the Federal government’s business.