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Will Obamacare Put Abortion Providers in Schools?
Written By : Warner Todd Huston

In a section innocuously titled “School-Based Health Clinics,” the House bill, H.R. 3200, seems to set up Democrats to invite groups like Planned Parenthood into our schools to serve as a school “health clinic.” (‘Sec. 399Z-1. School-Based Health Clinics.)

And even more insidiously the bill provides for these “clinics” to be initiated immediately — effective date to be July 1, 2010 — whereas much of the rest of H.R. 3200 does not take effect until 2013. Why the rush? If one were cynical, one might think that the fast tracking of these “clinics” was meant to catch critics off guard. After all, if these “clinics” are slipped into our schools before anyone is aware of them, it will be harder to get them out or to protest the whole deal beforehand.

Here is how Sec. 399Z-1 begins:

‘(a) Program- The Secretary shall establish a school-based health clinic program consisting of awarding grants to eligible entities to support the operation of school-based health clinics (referred to in this section as ‘SBHCs’).

And what sort of group is “eligible” to serve as an in-school clinic? Why any group that the Secretary of Health and Human Services decides will qualify, of course. All they have to do is “submit an application at such time, in such manner, and containing such information as the Secretary may require.”

Even more eyebrow raising is the fact that this bill requires these clinics to “establish a network” to offer services after school is closed, too.

‘(iii) the SBHC will provide on-site access during the academic day when school is in session and has an established network of support and access to services with backup health providers when the school or SBHC is closed;

Apparently these clinics will assume there are no parents or families responsible for kid’s healthcare services. Who needs parents? We have Obamacare and his in-school clinics to take care of kids in AND out of schools.

And, as is the case throughout this bill, all determinations as to what should or must be done is left to “the Secretary” meaning that all determinations rest as a matter of law with the Secretary of Health and Human Services and, therefore, the White House. No local involvement, no teachers, school boards or parents need bother trying to affect these requirements and arrangements.

A naked power grab is the end result.

Now, remembering that the White House and its administration is the ruling authority, in this political climate we must realize that groups like Planned Parenthood will certainly be considered a qualifying agency worthy of being placed in our schools.

Does anyone doubt that Kathleen Sebelius and President Obama could be expected to be favored with a contract for being an in-school healthcare service? Certainly they would.

Once again we see a very controversial proposal slipped into this bill in hopes that the massive size of this thing will be so overwhelming that people simply cannot possibly catch every one of them.

We also see a big payback to Obama supporters that would otherwise not have enough legitimacy to gain access to our children otherwise.

But let’s take another step back here. I am against abortion and despise Planned Parenthood. But say you are a lefty and love both. Then imagine that a solidly anti-abortion president takes office and his Secretary decides to de-certify your beloved baby killing agencies and they put in abstinence only or religiously based “clinics.” Would you be happy about it? Of course you wouldn’t.

The only real solution is not to have government mandating these sorts of things in the first place, right, center, or left!

(Cross posted at HealthcareHorseRace.com.)

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  • Robert_Ingersoll

    An amazing leap from the House Report text to the inclusion of Planned Parenthood. Considering that no school to my knowledge can dispense any drugs (prescription or over the counter) to a child without a parents written permission, I doubt that any action without that parents consent would be anything but consultative. Nice headline grabber though. Always pose the obscenely extreme as a question.

  • TheBaud

    Considering that no school to my knowledge can dispense any drugs (prescription or over the counter) to a child without a parents written permission, I doubt that any action without that parents consent would be anything but consultative.

    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2009-09-11 09:00:16

    Except for the fact that many states have laws where a child can be given an abortion without parental notification. But you already know that and are simply being deliberatly ignorant.

  • Mike_M

    Gee, I thought this bill was about getting people affordable health insurance? Guess that was another lie.

    Even in the cases where parents still have the right to know what the state does with their children, that little problem has already been addresses. ACORN will be empowered by this bill to conduct door to door home visits to address health issues…surely including pressuring parents into signing the needed forms to allow their children to be treated in these co called clinics. Don't you care about your child? What kind of parent are you that wouldn't allow the school to treat your child if they got sick or injured? You are a fit parent, aren't you?

    Still disagreeing? Well Obama has thought of that too when he proposed a civilian security force larger than the standing military.

  • CoolCzech

    I don't know whether or not Obamacare will put abortion clinics right smack in the middle of schools or not. HOWEVER, I'd venture to speculate that most Liberals would have no problem with that whatsoever. They'd probably think it was just neat that your daughter could get her abortion during Study Hall without your knowledge.

    Anybody ever wonder why it is kids can risk permanent sterility from abortion-related complications without your permission or even knoweldge, but you need to sign a permission slip to let the schooo nurse give them a freaking aspirin?

  • CoolCzech

    Schooo = school, btw…

  • TheBaud

    Posted by CoolCzech 2009-09-11 09:54:08

    And now, there is this…

    "Anti-abortion activist shot in front of Owosso High School"

    http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2009/09/antiabortion_activist_shot_in.html

    We always knew that the pro-abortion crowd were death-merchants. Now, they are killers of adults as well.

  • whats_up

    We always knew that the pro-abortion crowd were death-merchants. Now, they are killers of adults as well.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-11 09:59:11

    Hmmm, just like the anti-choice crowd huh, it truly is sad when someone is killed, there is no justification for that. Was your outrage as high for the abortion doctor that was killed Baud?

  • TheBaud

    Was your outrage as high for the abortion doctor that was killed Baud?

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 10:10:03

    Yes, it was, what's up. You do not protest murder by USING murder. The killer of the abortion doctor was loudly and immediately criticized by Christians and anti-abortion activists all over this country. And even that did not stop the pro-death crowd from painting the entire movement with this one man's action.

    We'll see if this incident even garners a front-page mention anywhere. Do you think Obama will order extra protection for abortion protestors?

  • CoolCzech

    Wow, an anti-abortion protestor shot, huh?

    I'm sure Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann will dwell on this incident at least as long as they did on Joe Wilson's exasperated exclamation during The Won's upteenth healthcare sales pitch, huh?

    NOT!

  • whats_up

    Out of curosity does anyone know why an anti-abortion protester would be protesting in front of a high school?

  • TheBaud

    Out of curosity does anyone know why an anti-abortion protester would be protesting in front of a high school?

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 10:26:58

    Perhaps he was exercising his 1st Amendment Right to be able to protest, whats_up. Or are you looking for some kind of justification for his killing here?

  • whats_up

    Perhaps he was exercising his 1st Amendment Right to be able to protest, whats_up. Or are you looking for some kind of justification for his killing here?

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-11 10:29:12

    No, just wondering why he would be protesting outside of a high school?

  • Robert_Ingersoll

    Except for the fact that many states have laws where a child can be given an abortion without parental notification. But you already know that and are simply being deliberatly ignorant.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-11 09:11:39

    Apples and oranges. What we are discussing are actions involved in a school setting, where practices are so rigid that a teenagers have been strip searched for giving an over the counter drug to another student, if you want to include extremes. To suggest that abortions would be suggested in a school setting is beyond willful ignorance and only intent is to distract from the original intent.

  • TheBaud

    No, just wondering why he would be protesting outside of a high school?

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 10:33:18

    Interesting that you are so pissy about him protesting abortion at a school, yet did not even wonder what someone would have a gun at a school!

  • CoolCzech

    Out of curosity does anyone know why an anti-abortion protester would be protesting in front of a high school?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 10:26:58

    Gee, you think it might be to dissuade young High School tramps from killing their own unborn children?

  • TheBaud

    To suggest that abortions would be suggested in a school setting is beyond willful ignorance and only intent is to distract from the original intent.

    Posted by Robert_Ingersoll 2009-09-11 10:34:05

    As I said before and you proved yet again, you are an idiot.

    The law in many states says that a minor can have an abortion WITHOUT parental notification. Since those laws went into effect, there have been stories about girls using school nurses to get the procedure done. And if Planned Parenthood gets in, that will become the norm.

    Pretend it will never happen if you want. The rest of us will continue to live in reality.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    We always knew that the pro-abortion crowd were death-merchants. Now, they are killers of adults as well.

    I think they prefer the term retroactive abortion, Baud.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    Do you think Obama will order extra protection for abortion protestors?

    Again, you're not using the proper Liberal terminology. They might call it protective custody.

  • CoolCzech

    BTW, has anyone picked up on the latest Tom Friedman editorial in the NY Times, in which he opines that what America REALLY needs is to be governed the same way the "enlightened" regime in Beijing governs Commie China?

    Friedman thus spirals down into the same liberal "elistist" mentality that was so fond of Mussolini and Stalin 50 years ago.

    And people think I exagerate when I point out the current American regime's fascistic tendencies.

    Never thought liberals would openly embrace totalitarianism, either, did you, Robert_Ingersoll?

    so don't talk to us about things Liberals would supposedly "never" do.

  • whats_up

    come on Robert, 30 years ago who would have thought the day would come that a 12 year old could legally get an abortion without her parents' knowledge?

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-11 10:43:15

    Without their knowledge, or without their permission Cool?

  • tblrk2006

    Why does obama need to do this?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/58233-…

    Dont people want his masterful plan? I guess he just knows whats best for us and we should just let him do all the deciding.

  • TheBaud

    Without their knowledge, or without their permission Cool?

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 11:07:58

    BOTH!

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    No, just wondering why he would be protesting outside of a high school?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 10:33:18

    Did you read the article? According to the article the victim was not on schools grounds but was either across the street or in adjacent yard.

  • D-Vega

    Do any of you all know why this guy was even shot?

    Baud is already blaming pro-choicers. There was another shooting nearby that is related.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    Without their knowledge, or without their permission Cool?

    Can't speak for other states but in CA, it can be without either knowledge or permission. The law specifically shields school nurses from having to tell the parents.

    Apples and oranges. What we are discussing are actions involved in a school setting, where practices are so rigid that a teenagers have been strip searched for giving an over the counter drug to another student, if you want to include extremes. To suggest that abortions would be suggested in a school setting is beyond willful ignorance and only intent is to distract from the original intent.

    Not apples and oranges at all. In CA it is common that school nurses provide referral information to Planned Parenthood for their full range of "services", and further that they can dispense birth control devices without parental notification.

  • TheBaud

    Baud is already blaming pro-choicers. There was another shooting nearby that is related.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-11 12:22:08

    The Left is legendary for blaming the Right, the ENTIRE Right, for any incident like this that happens to them. I will make a prediction on this indident.

    1) The suspect they have in custody will be portrayed as a Right-Wing nut, in spite of all evidence placing him decidedly on the Left.

    2) Blame will be heaped upon the victim for carring a sign, or being near school property, or for any number of things.

    3) When #'s 1 and 2 fail, the Left will say, "Oh well, the Right brought this on themselves for the abortion doctors killed."

    Still no word from Obama on this issue. Has the National Guard been called out yet?

  • D-Vega

    You may end up looking like a fool, Baud.

    I'm would not start making predictions until all the facts come out.

    And even when the facts come out about right-wing killers, I don't blame the entire right.

    Show some class & prudence.

  • TheBaud

    Show some class & prudence.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-11 12:35:37

    Said by the asshole that brought his wife into a classless discussion on prostitutes. You are a joke, D-Vega.

    I fully expect you and your friends on the Left to go out of your way to make this anything other than the killing of an abortion foe. And while you yourself may not blame the entire Right for the abortion doctor killing, that is completely out of step with the bulk of Liberals in this country.

    Trust me, D-Vega, you are not that important.

  • whats_up

    1) The suspect they have in custody will be portrayed as a Right-Wing nut, in spite of all evidence placing him decidedly on the Left.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-11 12:32:51

    What evidence is that Baud? What evidence is there that places him decidedly on the left? This may simply be a case of random murders, since the suspect in custody admitted to another murder that took place today, but by all means show us this evidence that you have that he is left leaning politically.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 12:46:33

    Calm down, little bitch. I said 'will be', as in 'in the future'. I said clearly that it was a prediction. We'll see how it turns out.

  • CoolCzech

    Without their knowledge, or without their permission Cool?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 11:07:58

    Either is disgusting, but as a matter of fact a 12 year old can go in front of a stranger that happens to be a judge and get their "permission" to get the abortion without the parents ever knowing about it.

  • whats_up

    Calm down, little bitch. I said 'will be', as in 'in the future'. I said clearly that it was a prediction. We'll see how it turns out.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-11 12:49:14

    Yes we will, perhaps it would be prudent of you to get all the facts before you make your "predictions", just a thought.

  • whats_up

    Either is disgusting, but as a matter of fact a 12 year old can go in front of a stranger that happens to be a judge and get their "permission" to get the abortion without the parents ever knowing about it.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-11 12:53:22

    Yes they can, thankfully. No minor should have to be forced by their parents to have children.

  • TheBaud

    Yes we will, perhaps it would be prudent of you to get all the facts before you make your "predictions", just a thought.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 12:54:54

    Are you so ignorant as to not know what a prediction is, whats_up? If you have all the facts, a prediction is not needed.

    But you advise has been noted and will now be dismissed.

  • D-Vega

    Said by the asshole that brought his wife into a classless discussion on prostitutes. You are a joke, D-Vega.

    Stop lying, Baud. YOU were the one who brought up my wife in a discussion.

  • CoolCzech

    By the way, whats_up, I like the way you completely ignored my MAIN point, which was: the Left ALWAYS, ALWAYS pushes every issue you can imagine to an utterly unimaginable extreme. 30 years ago, if anyone said Roe vs. Wade would lead to minors getting abortions without parental permission, people like Robert would accuse them of "extreme" rhetoric.

    But are 12 year olds deciding on their own to abort any more radical a proposition that abortion clinics right inside of a High School?

    And by the way, D-Vega and whats-up: would you have any qualms about such a clinic? And whatever your answers… WHY??

  • TheBaud

    Stop lying, Baud. YOU were the one who brought up my wife in a discussion.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-11 12:59:20

    "Sorry Smelt, but I am happily married", said by you BEFORE my comment about your wife and after your comment about how women could learn some things from prostitutes.

    You are a terrible liar, D-Vega. And a classless prick!

  • CoolCzech

    Yes they can, thankfully. No minor should have to be forced by their parents to have children.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 12:57:03

    No minor should have been having sex to begin with, but that is obviously something verboten for a Leftist like yourself to say. What if the minor, instead of bearing the child and simply giving it up for adoption, gets the abortion without ever hearing from her parents that they love her even if she DID get abortion? Don't you think most kids might seek the abortion out of fear of parental dissaproval?

    And what if the child suffers an abortion-related complication that leaves her sterile? Keep your abortionist away from our children, whats_up. It's your warped personal values that you've been pushing for decades that created the massive problem of illegitimacy in this country to begin with.

  • CoolCzech

    edit: even if she did get an abortion, or HAVE THE BABY.

  • D-Vega

    The "sorry, smelt" had nothing to do with the discussion or the POS comment you made about my wife, Baud.

    AND, I said I was married. That refers to me. YOU said my wife could learn something from prostitutes, which is bringing my wife into the discussion.

    You were also chastised for it by one of the few conservative people with class on RWN.

  • whats_up

    No minor should have been having sex to begin with

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-11 13:04:16

    You are right, they shouldnt, but they do. I dont agree with abortion, I think it abhorrent, however I think it worse that we would force women, minors or not, to do thinks with their body that they dont want to do. You like to play slippery slope arguments CC, can you imagine where that line of though will take us, soon the government would be telling women that they must have children.

  • TheBaud

    AND, I said I was married. That refers to me. YOU said my wife could learn something from prostitutes, which is bringing my wife into the discussion.

    You were also chastised for it by one of the few conservative people with class on RWN.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-11 13:05:52

    Oh, you pathetic Liberals do love to revise history.

    YOU claimed that women could learn a lot from prostitutes.

    YOU then claimed to be happily married.

    I then asked what your wife (that you had already brought into the conversation) could learn from prostitutes.

    YOU then denied you were married to a women.

    A few posters criticized me, but others agreed that YOU had crossed the line.

    YOU then later admitted that you were married to a woman, but that I had no way yo know that, so I was still wrong.

    Face it D-Vega. This was an incident of your own making and you are too much of a whiney little bitch to admit you were wrong. So feel free to go fuck yourself.

  • TheBaud

    You like to play slippery slope arguments CC, can you imagine where that line of though will take us, soon the government would be telling women that they must have children.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 13:17:26

    How moronic can you possibly be, whats_up?

    A 12-year-old child is not mature enought BY LAW to drink, drive, vote, enter into a contract, or a host of other things. Adults are prevented BY LAW from dispensing medicine or giving anything other than life-saving medical treatment to that same child without parental notification and permission. But suddenly and magically, if a child is pregnant, the parents are taken out of the equation, the sate steps in, and that same child instantly becomes mature enough to decide to kill her unborn baby?

    Seriously?

  • D-Vega

    Face it D-Vega. This was an incident of your own making and you are too much of a whiney little bitch to admit you were wrong. So feel free to go fuck yourself.

    Whatever, Baud. My wife was never part of any equation in terms of prostitution until you made it so.

    You stooped to a lowlife comment and then didn't have the balls to stick to it.

  • smelvertising

    This was an incident of your own making and you are too much of a whiney little bitch to admit you were wrong.

    Wow, Vega still arguing about that schooling he got over that classy show of misogyny of his?

    Next up, provided he doesn't go back home, he'll be redefining "is" on his calling Ann Coulter a transvestite. Again.

  • http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

    As always, it boggles the mind that liberals think school children shouldn't even be given headache pills without parental permission, but those same children should be allowed to get an abortion without parents even knowing about it.

  • smelvertising

    balls to stick to it.

    Dear coward,

    Please stop talking about the courage that people other than you have. You are only ridiculing yourself, because you are a proven coward with a track record of running away from arguments you cannot follow through.

    On second thought, carry on.

    Best regards,

    Smelvertising or, as you know from the amount of epic-level smackdowns I've given you, "your daddy".

    PS: you're still not good enough, and never will be.

  • TheBaud

    You stooped to a lowlife comment and then didn't have the balls to stick to it.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-11 13:31:17

    Next time, perhaps you'll have enough class to leave your wife out of conversations where you are demeaning women. But being the classless asshole that you are, I doubt you are able.

    Again, please go fuck yourself, D-Vega.

  • CoolCzech

    Let's stop it with the wife thing already. There are enuff incredibly upsetting things being done to our country by a Presidential Low Life that one second calls Sarah Palin and the entire Republican Party liars and the next whines about being quite accurately called out by Joe Wilson for lying without having to get personal.

  • whats_up

    As always, it boggles the mind that liberals think school children shouldn't even be given headache pills without parental permission, but those same children should be allowed to get an abortion without parents even knowing about it.

    Posted by mightysamurai

    2009-09-11 13:34:47

    This does disturb me, I think the parents should be notified in almost all instances, however their permission should not necessarily be required. I also think that there should have to be a mandatory 48 hour waiting period once that decision is made.

  • D-Vega

    Let's stop it with the wife thing already.

    Indeed. Further proof of the right's class when it comes to demonizing their opponents. And then they gasp with righteous indignation at the slightest insult to their ideas, methods or flavor of the week.

  • CoolCzech

    This does disturb me, I think the parents should be notified in almost all instances, however their permission should not necessarily be required. I also think that there should have to be a mandatory 48 hour waiting period once that decision is made.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 13:42:34

    You know, perhaps in certain freaky set of circumstances, such as a father raping his own daughter, it probably shouldn't be absolutely required that the daughter have her own incestuous rapist's permission.

    But it seems absolutely morality mandatory to me that all parents should – in the even a judge is asked to decide – have some input into his decision making process.

    And it goes without saying that 99.999 percent of the time, in fact ONLY the parents should have the right to give permission for such a thing.

  • TheBaud

    Indeed. Further proof of the right's class when it comes to demonizing their opponents. And then they gasp with righteous indignation at the slightest insult to their ideas, methods or flavor of the week.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-09-11 13:52:47

    You lie, you demean women, you are incapable of admitting you were wrong, you attempt to revise history, and then you have the gall to lecture us on class?

    And the righteous indignation you should be slamming is the whines coming from President Thin-Skinned and his classless collegues that think they can apply rules to Republicans, but not to Democrats.

    Oh, and before I forget, go fuck yourself, D-Vega!

  • D-Vega

    I misposted this comment from the JW thread:

    A minor of 12 should not be getting an abortion without parental involvement, as the parent(s) is/are the guardians of such minor. They feed, house and clothe the child, so…

    You could make the argument that at 16 it could be considered, but I think only as a matter of emancipation.

    Health clinics at schools are a good idea, as this is not something new. Abortion referrals being instituted as the norm are not good ideas.

  • CoolCzech

    come on Robert, 30 years ago who would have thought the day would come that a 12 year old could legally get an abortion without her parents’ knowledge?

    You would have said anyone that raised the fear was guilty of “willful ignorance and only intent on discration.”

    We have all grown up witnessing how liberals forever stretch the boundaries of human standards of acceptable behavior.

  • airfr8er

    I think it abhorrent, however I think it worse that we would force women, minors or not, to do thinks with their body that they dont want to do. You like to play slippery slope arguments CC, can you imagine where that line of though will take us, soon the government would be telling women that they must have children.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 13:17:26

    So you think a minor should be able to get an abortion without parental consent because the fetus is actually not a child but a part of the minor girls body correct? So if a kid wants to get his leg cut off and have a wooden peg installed so he can look like that cool pirate he saw on t.v. you are ok with that? How about if a kid wants his body tatooed yellow so he can look like sponge bob. Fine by you! It's his body after all. crnths, you give idiots a bad name.

  • whats_up

    And it goes without saying that 99.999 percent of the time, in fact ONLY the parents should have the right to give permission for such a thing.

    Posted by CoolCzech

    2009-09-11 13:55:26

    Sorry CC totally disagree with this statement, no one including parents should be able to tell a women, no matter her age, what she can and cant do with her body.

  • whats_up

    So you think a minor should be able to get an abortion without parental consent because the fetus is actually not a child but a part of the minor girls body correct? So if a kid wants to get his leg cut off and have a wooden peg installed so he can look like that cool pirate he saw on t.v. you are ok with that? How about if a kid wants his body tatooed yellow so he can look like sponge bob. Fine by you! It's his body after all. crnths, you give idiots a bad name.

    Posted by airfr8er

    2009-09-11 15:05:30

    Lets not pretend that this is make believe air, this is serious stuff, no one should be forced to carry a child against their wishes, no one.

  • airfr8er

    Lets not pretend that this is make believe air, this is serious stuff, no one should be forced to carry a child against their wishes, no one.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 15:11:00

    One clump of cells is not equal to another WU? Ok how about a spleen? Maybe an apendix?

  • airfr8er

    no one should be forced to carry a kidney against their wishes, no one.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 15:11:00

  • whats_up

    2009-09-11 15:11:00

    Posted by airfr8er

    2009-09-11 15:23:21

    Thats right, they shouldnt be FORCED to, thanks for seeing the light.

  • airfr8er

    So 14 year old Sally whats_up decides that she wants a kidney removed, no need to get permission from daddy whats_up. Just head to the school nurse and get a ride to the hospital. Done deal.

    P.S monday is hug a moron day, so if anybody comes up to you whats_up, don't freak out. they are not trying to steal your helmet.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    no one should be forced to carry a child against their wishes, no one.

    No human being should be killed for the sake of another one's temporary inconvenience. Otherwise, god help the next tall person who sits in front of me in a movie theater.

  • whats_up

    No human being should be killed for the sake of another one's temporary inconvenience. Otherwise, god help the next tall person who sits in front of me in a movie theater.

    Posted by CavalierX

    2009-09-11 16:02:16

    Cav,

    I understand that you would force a woman to do something with her body that she doesnt want, why do you hate women so much that you would do this?

  • TheBaud

    I understand that you would force a woman to do something with her body that she doesnt want, why do you hate women so much that you would do this?

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 16:24:32

    Woman #1: "I want to have unprotected sex whenever I want to, but I don't want to get pregnant."

    Woman #2: "I want to eat whatever I want to, but I don't want to get fat."

    Both of these women are living in a fantasy world. And you are being a prick on purpose. Rail against nature all you want, whats_up. It changes nothing.

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    Whether this bill would actually establish abortion clinics in schools, it certainly makes it easy to do so – and given President Obama's love of infanticide it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out it happened.

    Hey, what's up, why do you hate children so much you insist on them being killed legally? What do you have against babies that you lust so strongly for their deaths, what kind of sick, bloodthirsty monster are you?

  • http://www.conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/ reelman

    PRO-LIFE ACTIVIST MURDERED (lionized?)

    ….As to the reason for the killing of pro-life activist Jim Pouillon, Harlan Drake has told police that he was “offended” by Pouillon’s anti-abortion messages. Neighbors of Jim Pouillon say that he was a quiet man in recent years but his checkered past was a result of his boisterous protests. They have commented that some might not have agreed with his message or his graphic displays of aborted fetus’ on his protest signs but he was quiet man in his older age….”…off Drudge Report 9.11.09

    CRAWFISH NOTE: If only the victim was an ACORN-ite holding Pro-Abortion signs, if only, if only.

    Now the secular socialist media has to do an anal and garbage exam of the victim. The media will be frantically searching for snide and direct ways to demean the victim. Ever hear of a liberal activist in terms of “his checkered past due to boisterous protests”? I thought not.

    This will not be a lionizing effort but a low level smear campaign to somehow convince America the victim asked for it, deserved it, was a weirdo and really had no freedom of expression. This is what passes for journalism in America now…IF it gets more than 45 painful seconds this week…such is modern liberalism.

    http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish

  • whats_up

    Hey, what's up, why do you hate children so much you insist on them being killed legally? What do you have against babies that you lust so strongly for their deaths, what kind of sick, bloodthirsty monster are you?

    Posted by Christopher_Taylor

    2009-09-11 16:30:11

    I dont insist on them being killed, I hate abortion, I wish women would not have them, but again I will not force that decision on them, why would you?

  • TheBaud

    but again I will not force that decision on them, why would you?

    Posted by whats_up 2009-09-11 16:38:42

    It is not a decision, it is murder. I'm sorry some women get pregnant when they don't want to, but killing the child is not the answer. That is, unless you think the answer to a whiney infant who won't sleep through the night is also to kill the child.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    I understand that you would force a woman to do something with her body that she doesnt want

    Of course, the woman (and the man) accepts the risk of pregnancy that comes with having sex. I am forcing no one. But I'm not for killing innocent human beings without good reason, either.

  • airfr8er

    whiney infant

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-09-11 17:14:01

    Wait, were you referring to a kid or whats_up?

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    Sorry CC totally disagree with this statement, no one including parents should be able to tell a women, no matter her age, what she can and cant do with her body.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 15:09:40

    No feamle under the age of 18 IS A WOMAN, THEY ARE CHILDREN and hence unable to legally consent to any action. And you seriously beleive that a 12 yr old has enough judgement and to make an informed descesion about KILLING HER CHILD??? WTFU WU ARE REALLY THAT FUCKING STUPID??? (Oh look who I'm talking too!)

    You are officially the most amoral person I've encoun tered here, and that's saying something!

    You can go FUCK YOURSELF, WU! May God have mercy on your soul, because I cannot forgive such an amoral jackass.

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    but again I will not force that decision on them, why would you?

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 16:38:42

    No instead you allow them to force their desision to MURDER their unborn child on an iinocent. Yeah that's so much better.

  • http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

    This does disturb me

    No it doesn't. If it did you'd be doing something about it. But you aren't.

  • http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

    I understand that you would force a woman to do something with her body that she doesnt want

    Yes, we want to force women to not murder their own children. What horrible monsters we are.

  • TheBaud

    Guns don't kill people. Left wing and right wing political nut cases do.

    Posted by snohomish 2009-09-11 22:53:45

    Can't even condemn the murder or the murderer without saying "well, you do it to".

    Please join D-Vega in the Go-Fuck-Yourself Club!

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    I don't insist on them being killed

    Not any more than someone who thought killing Jews was awful but you would argue for Nazis to have the right to kill Jews. Cause it would be so mean to tell them no, when they really want to.

    You want babies to die, monster. You want infanticide to continue, helpless infants murdered in the womb.

  • TheBaud

    I condemed politcal nut case fanatic murderers across the board.

    Posted by snohomish 2009-09-12 11:44:57

    Sorry, not buying your pathetic bullshit.

    When the abortion doctor was killed, the murderer was condemned by the Right WITHOUT CONDITION OR RESERVATION. None of this "well you guys do it too" quisling shit that you tried to put out.

    You and all the worthless pricks on the Left could care less about this person that was killed and are too cowardly to admit that what the murderer did was wrong.

    Continue to fuck yourself. It is all you are good for!

  • CoolCzech

    Sorry CC totally disagree with this statement, no one including parents should be able to tell a women, no matter her age, what she can and cant do with her body.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-09-11 15:09:40

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