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Wisc. Teachers Protest Working an 8-Hour Work Day
Written By : Warner Todd Huston

Green Bay TV reported on June 21 that the teachers union in Green Bay, Wisconsin is incensed that the school district is demanding that teachers work an extra half hour a day, making their hours a set 8-hour day, or a 40-hour work week. In turn, this absurd ire displayed by teachers is incensing local Green Bay residents.

“They need to be the professionals that they are supposed to be. They sound like a bunch of idiots and they look like a bunch of idiots, they make the rest of us look bad,” said a listener to the Vicki McKenna Show.

Naturally the teachers union president assumes all you Green Bayers are stupid, that you don’t understand the issues, and says that she won’t listen to her critics, anyway.

In the report, Toni Lardinois, president of Green Bay Teachers Union, threw up the straw man factoid that some teachers voluntarily give 10 and 11 hour days to their job. The proper reply to this factoid is a hearty “so what”?

Yes, it is good that some dedicated teachers, all of whom are on salary, spend more time at work than they are obligated by their contracts. But the fact is they are not obligated to spend more than 7-1/2 hours a day at work. And the target are the many more teachers that give only the bare minimum required. That is what the school board is trying to rectify.

Even so, what is the whining going on here? These taxpayer paid for, government employee teachers are upset that they have to work an 8-hour day like everyone else does? How does that win them any sympathizers in the general public?

Hopefully it won’t. Hopefully, these pampered, highly paid public employees will at least find they have to work the same number of hours that the people paying their salaries have to work!

With some Wisconsin teachers making over $100,000 a year in average annual compensation, one would think they’d be smart enough to keep quite and suffer the small indignities, eh?

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  • JUorer

    Let’s not forget that they get the summers off as well as spring and winter breaks.

  • Anonymous

    Forty hours a week?! Egad, man, what kind of slave-driver are you?!

  • Hologram5

    WOW, wish I only had to work 36 hours per week and got paid for 40, that’s be really nice…

    • Anonymous

      Ditto!

    • Anonymous

      Ditto!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      I wish I only had to work 9 months a year, no weekends, had dozens of “holidays” off and just needed to show up 36 hours a week….

      Then I could send any medical bills I had to someone else to pay because my totally free retirement package with totaly free healthcare must be paid by someone else….

      Golly what a horrible imposition that kinda job would be…..

  • Martin Hale

    OK, since the union president didn’t mention that the district had actually agreed to a negotiated seven and a half hour day, then I’m guessing that this subject isn’t in their contract – which means that the FLSA rules governing work days and work weeks would be controlling.

    In most contracts covering FLSA exempt employees (teachers are definitely FLSA exempt employees), stuff like this tends to fall under the management rights clause.  For those who aren’t familiar that’s a blanket clause which essentially says that management reserves the right establish whatever work rules they see fit in order to manage their operation – hours of operation would be one of those rules.

    Long way of saying that the union likely doesn’t have a leg to stand on in this case.

    • Anonymous

      Good point, well said!

    • Anonymous

      Good point, well said!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      Martin you alway have such great posts. Liked for being awsome!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      Martin you alway have such great posts. Liked for being awsome!

  • Anonymous

    Warner what proof do you have that the majority of teachers dont spend more than the required 7 and a half hours.  You have made a blanket statement without any proof whatsoever.  But then again what do you expect from a man that cant tell the difference between a resident of Green Bay and one of Milwaukee.  From the article you cited:

    On the Vicki McKenna Show today, Milwaukee listeners weighed in on the
    issues dealing with the Green Bay Teachers Union, and some took personal
    shots at the teachers.

    “They need to be the professionals that
    they are supposed to be,” said one listener. “They sound like a bunch of
    idiots and they look like a bunch of idiots, they make the rest of us
    look bad.”

    You do know that Milwaukee and Green Bay are seperate cities correct? 

    • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

      About the same amount of proof you have the any teachers work more than the 7.5 hours? 

      And you do realize this is a blog where opinions are given just as frequently as facts like on MSNBC and CNN?

      • Anonymous

        Then perhaps it should be called Right Wing Opinion and not NEWS.  This is not reporting whatsoever, it is intentionally LYING.

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          Prove it! The head of the teachers union was upset. 

          MSNBC calls itself news and more than half of it’s content is OPINION when you rail about them?

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          Prove it! The head of the teachers union was upset. 

          MSNBC calls itself news and more than half of it’s content is OPINION when you rail about them?

    • Anonymous

      If they work more than the required 7.5 hours, they shouldn’t care. If they’re working so much, they’ll still continue to exceed the minimum requirements.

    • Anonymous

      If they work more than the required 7.5 hours, they shouldn’t care. If they’re working so much, they’ll still continue to exceed the minimum requirements.

  • Anonymous

    Warner what proof do you have that the majority of teachers dont spend more than the required 7 and a half hours.  You have made a blanket statement without any proof whatsoever.  But then again what do you expect from a man that cant tell the difference between a resident of Green Bay and one of Milwaukee.  From the article you cited:

    On the Vicki McKenna Show today, Milwaukee listeners weighed in on the
    issues dealing with the Green Bay Teachers Union, and some took personal
    shots at the teachers.

    “They need to be the professionals that
    they are supposed to be,” said one listener. “They sound like a bunch of
    idiots and they look like a bunch of idiots, they make the rest of us
    look bad.”

    You do know that Milwaukee and Green Bay are seperate cities correct? 

  • Anonymous

    Oh yes and those making over $100,000 are in Milwaukee and not in Green Bay, no bias here.

    • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

      But both are in WI which is the subject and title of the post! Did you even read Warner’s piece?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

        Of course the commie didn’t… He cant afford to shatter his delusions and face reality just like the kenyan fool.

        • Anonymous

          You wouldnt know reality if it hit you in the face.  You live in a fantasy world where the most needy are denied and those that are fine are given more, interesting philosophy.  How anti-christian of you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

        Of course the commie didn’t… He cant afford to shatter his delusions and face reality just like the kenyan fool.

      • Anonymous

        Did you read the post?  The actual article talks about teachers from Green Bay, but now according to you idiots on the right, it Wisconsin (as in all or most) teachers that are against this.  Why the exagerration?  Afraid your message isnt getting through, simply cant report the truth, must be tough being a conservative.

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          Must be tough to be so stupid that you you are pointing out the sliver in our eyes from behind the plank in yours.

          • Anonymous

            Take care of your own house first bthewolf.

  • Anonymous

    “Even so, what is the whining going on here? These taxpayer paid for,
    government employee teachers are upset that they have to work an 8-hour
    day like everyone else does? How does that win them any sympathizers in the general public?”

    did you even read the article Warner, that is not what they were upset about, from the article you cited:

    They don’t feel like the district made enough of an attempt to discuss the issue before taking it to the board.

    “Hopefully
    the district and the school board will realize its the conversations we
    can have together, that will help us to solve the problems we see now,”
    said Lardinois.

    This is what they were upset about.  Again no bias in your article at all.

    • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

      According to the law the district doesn’t have to discuss this. Read Martin’s post!

      • Anonymous

        I am not disputing that, I am disputing Warners biased opinion (touted as fact) that teachers were upset that they had to work 8 hours.  The article clearly states that was not what they were upset about.  However continue to lie, makes you look like the idiots that you are.

        • Anonymous

          You stated as fact that David Duke voted for Bush in 2004. You have no credibility and are sexually interested in children by your own admission.

          Flagged for trolling.

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/C3IKAXMRVZNEU5BZKUD7LK6WBA Pete Moss

            Honestly Tricky, do you still jack off to the same picture of Mamie Eisenhour?

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          Where id I lie what_a_tard? and What does Warner tout in his article as fact that isn’t? Teachers are upset about the changes as mentioned in the news report by the head of the teachers union, himself a teacher I’m sure!

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          Where id I lie what_a_tard? and What does Warner tout in his article as fact that isn’t? Teachers are upset about the changes as mentioned in the news report by the head of the teachers union, himself a teacher I’m sure!

      • Anonymous

        I am not disputing that, I am disputing Warners biased opinion (touted as fact) that teachers were upset that they had to work 8 hours.  The article clearly states that was not what they were upset about.  However continue to lie, makes you look like the idiots that you are.

  • Anonymous

    I have no problem paying teachers generous salaries.

    I just wish they’d earn it.

    There are plenty of hardworking teachers who care and should be rewarded.  They should be the ones making a 100 grande a year.  But they aren’t, generally to ‘earn’ that amount you need to be an administrator.

    We would be far better served in this country by paying actual teachers more, firing 90% of administrators and keeping a close eye on the remaining 10%.  And of course make all pay above some minimum level merit rather than seniority based.

    /I’d also like to see them have a major in whatever field they’re teaching and a minor in education.  At least for the high school level. 

  • opchromiterok

    When I was in high school, the photography teacher would always reek of alcohol. He would release his class about 10 minutes before school ended so he could beat traffic. His class consisted of doing absolutely nothing (well… if you consider gambling and talking to your friends to be “absolutely nothing”). When he got up to go to the bathroom every day, the entire class would rush his gradebook to give themselves A’s.

    He was finally fired last year for letting students in his class smoke marijuana.

    The worst part? He sued the school to challenge their decision to fire him. The district couldn’t afford the lawsuit, so they gave him a $25,000 settlement.

    This is how bad things have gotten in California. Teachers unions are enabling this sort of behavior, and it’s ruining our education system. Hopefully other states might maintain some sort of right-to-work system…. it’s gotten ridiculous here.

    • Anonymous

      Bullshit, no district is enabling teachers to drink while on duty and let their students out early. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

        You lying about it still wont make it true commie…..

        Granted you are to stupid to function outside of your delusions so it’s obvious why you need to lie to cover up your idiocy.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

        You lying about it still wont make it true commie…..

        Granted you are to stupid to function outside of your delusions so it’s obvious why you need to lie to cover up your idiocy.

      • Anonymous

        Tell us about David Duke and Bush in 2004. BTW, did you beat that molestation rap?

      • Anonymous

        Well… this one is. You obviously don’t have a lot of experience with the California educational system.

      • Anonymous

        Well… this one is. You obviously don’t have a lot of experience with the California educational system.

      • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

        Prove it!

        • Anonymous

          You show me any district in the country that allows teachers to drink on duty, ANY ONE.  You idiots on the right made the claim, but once again you simply make things up out  of thin air.  You know what, I like that approach and since is seems to be your SOP, I think I will start to do the same.  The modern Conservative is anti-Christian and going against God’s teachings.

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            Dumbass, no one claimed the teacher was allowed by the district to do this, so much as the district was powerless to stop it! But you are the one played the card of ALLOWED!  Pull your fucking head out of your ass.

          • Anonymous

            Yes they did, simply read up four posts, how fucking stupid are you?

          • Anonymous

            The teacher let his students smoke pot in class, and that’s what finally got him “fired”. But that doesn’t mean the district was condoning it.

            The fact was that he knew how to exploit the system. Lots of teachers do. It’s nearly impossible to fire a teacher when they have tenure.

          • Anonymous

            The teacher let his students smoke pot in class, and that’s what finally got him “fired”. But that doesn’t mean the district was condoning it.

            The fact was that he knew how to exploit the system. Lots of teachers do. It’s nearly impossible to fire a teacher when they have tenure.

          • Anonymous

            The teacher let his students smoke pot in class, and that’s what finally got him “fired”. But that doesn’t mean the district was condoning it.

            The fact was that he knew how to exploit the system. Lots of teachers do. It’s nearly impossible to fire a teacher when they have tenure.

          • Anonymous

            The teacher let his students smoke pot in class, and that’s what finally got him “fired”. But that doesn’t mean the district was condoning it.

            The fact was that he knew how to exploit the system. Lots of teachers do. It’s nearly impossible to fire a teacher when they have tenure.

      • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

        Prove it!

    • Anonymous

      Bullshit, no district is enabling teachers to drink while on duty and let their students out early. 

  • opchromiterok

    When I was in high school, the photography teacher would always reek of alcohol. He would release his class about 10 minutes before school ended so he could beat traffic. His class consisted of doing absolutely nothing (well… if you consider gambling and talking to your friends to be “absolutely nothing”). When he got up to go to the bathroom every day, the entire class would rush his gradebook to give themselves A’s.

    He was finally fired last year for letting students in his class smoke marijuana.

    The worst part? He sued the school to challenge their decision to fire him. The district couldn’t afford the lawsuit, so they gave him a $25,000 settlement.

    This is how bad things have gotten in California. Teachers unions are enabling this sort of behavior, and it’s ruining our education system. Hopefully other states might maintain some sort of right-to-work system…. it’s gotten ridiculous here.

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