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The Greater Good Means Too Bad For The Children

Written By : Melissa Clouthier

Senator Lieberman tried yet again to save D.C.’s school children and it fell on the deaf progressive ears of President Obama. Why does President Obama hate children? Why does he treat his own girls one way and act with willful indifference to needy minority kids going to the same school as them?

Read this and be outraged:

Right now, today, some 1,900 Washington children are sitting in calm, safe, orderly classrooms in neighborhoods other than their own, because of this program. The cost, in the scheme of things, is laughably small.

Yet congressional Democrats and Obama are killing it. This week, Lieberman’s colleagues voted down his attempt to attach a voucher-saving amendment to a larger piece of legislation.
It is a scandal. That the children already enrolled in the scheme will be able to finish 12th grade with the scholarship is small comfort; why only them? Why not their younger brothers and sisters, who will not have the same chance? Why leave these children behind?

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Only-some-children-left-behind-88189257.html#ixzz0iXHrtiBQ

When you hear liberals talk about loving the little children, keep in mind that, as usual, they only love some children–mostly their own.

That’s what happens when decisions are made for the greater good. The ruling class gets one set of health care, education, tax break, government deal, home, car, etc. and then the regular folks get what the “greater good” gets–which is usually nothing.

Read more at MelissaClouthier.com and listen to all the latest at LibertyPundits.com

Tom_Paine_1776

Oh, this is the ‘socialism’ you support. Flexible standards you have.

Sorry, no vouchers. Period. End of story.
tblrk2006

Sorry, no vouchers. Period. End of story.
Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 09:24:16

Figures you would elect not to expand a very successful and popular program like this in the DC area. Got to keep those kids nice and stupid so they grow up to vote like you tom.
Mike_M

Liberals hate school choice and have made ending it one of their top agenda priorities while in power. Ohio Governor Ted Strickland ran on a heavy “pro-education” platform then turned around and tried to gut the state’s voucher and charter school programs. He backed down after his proposals triggered massive protests on the statehouse lawn, and the GOP-controlled Senate promised it would never pass.

This was after the liberals launched a 7-year long legal crusade against those same programs while a Republican ran the state. They lost, but barely.

As stated in the article, the latest tactic of the left is to paint vouchers as “religious school subsidies”, when they are in fact vouchers for parents to send their children to a school of their choice. I guess liberals only believe in a parent’s choice to abort their child instead of educating them.
Mike_M

“Oh, this is the ‘socialism’ you support. Flexible standards you have.”

School vouchers are far more capitalistic, you idiot. They take tax money out of the public school system and give it to parents to make their own choice.

It just pisses you liberals off because it gives parents a say over their children’s future while you want them clapped in irons, stuck in failed schools where they won’t learn anything except to beg the government for handouts. It’s also extremely racist, since the vast majority of children helped by school vouchers are minorities.

Why are you such a racist, tom?
tblrk2006

Why are you such a racist, tom?
Posted by Mike_M
2010-03-18 09:38:54

He is just doing what O is telling him to do.
Tom_Paine_1776

You want to go to a private school, you pay for it.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Oh, this is the ‘socialism’ you support. Flexible standards you have.

Talk about irony–some idiot public-school flunkie has no clue about socialism.

Hey moron, you just provided another example of the benefits of vouchers. Thank you for your assistance.

Awaiting claims that Tom is a graduate of a top-tier private school in 5…4…3…2…
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

You want ~~to go to a private school~~ health insurance, you pay for it.
Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 09:47:08

Watch Tom go off the deep end as a result of a very small change.
Tom_Paine_1776

Conservatives: We will offer no assistance when you are hungry, sick or need of shelter, but if you want to go to a parochial school and learn about Jeebus that’s perfectly acceptable.
Mike_M

“Conservatives: We will offer no assistance when you are hungry, sick or need of shelter”

A shabby and pathetic lie. Actually, a lot of churches offer free meals, some offer free clinic services, and the Catholic Church runs a network of homeless shelters and housing assistance programs.

Why, it’s almost as if you’re afraid to have them competing with the government, tom. Afraid those black kids might make it out of the ghetto and stop voting Democrat, tom?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 09:57:15

Yup, when conservatives take over the country and put it under the Pope’s rule people like you will be enslaved to do our bidding and will be forced to worship Jesus.

(Rolls eyes)
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Afraid those black kids might make it out of the ghetto and stop voting Democrat, tom?
Posted by Mike_M
2010-03-18 10:17:41

Tom committed two lies in one post:

1) He is using one of his sockpuppet names.
2) He completely lied about conservatives. Interesting how he never provides any evidence to support his claims.
Tom_Paine_1776

“Actually, a lot of churches offer free meals, some offer free clinic services, and the Catholic Church runs a network of homeless shelters and housing assistance programs. ”

Mike_M,
…and people of differing faiths (on none at all) should have to go to the church for assistance?
tblrk2006

Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 10:23:16

Church is not the only charity. And all private charities out perform the govt equivalent.
Hotspur

Mike_M,
…and people of differing faiths (on none at all) should have to go to the church for assistance?
Posted by Tom_Paine_1776

Um… who’s forcing them, Tom? And if they have such a problem with accepting charity from a church, I would venture to say they have bigger problems. Are they so prideful and hateful that they would refuse assistance from a helping hand? That doesn’t speak well of them.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

and people of differing faiths (on none at all) should have to go to the church for assistance?
Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 10:23:16

The church helps everyone, dumbass. Plus, there are thousands of other private charities that help all people.

Tom, people like you are a hoot! You claim that Jesus doesn’t exist but fear Him tremendously!
tblrk2006

Conservatives: We will offer no assistance when you are hungry, sick or need of shelter, but if you want to go to a parochial school and learn about Jeebus that’s perfectly acceptable.
Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 09:57:15

Democrats: We will make sure you maintain your need for food, care, and shelter from us. If you want to go to a better school, tough shit..your not good enough. Religion is bad.
Hotspur

Posted by tblrk2006
2010-03-18 10:25:10

That too. There are many private charities. Tom just has no argument and reacts as any liberal would: stupidly.
Mike_M

“…and people of differing faiths (on none at all) should have to go to the church for assistance?”

Which is more just tom, a person having the choice to go to a church for assistance, or forcing me to assist that person through the government against my will by confiscating my property?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

You want to go to a private school, you pay for it.
Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 09:47:08

Of course…wealth Democrat leaders like Barack Obama have the money to send their children to private schools.

It’s interesting how they promote public schools with their lips but their actions state otherwise.

Do you enjoy bending over and grabbing the ankles, Tom? LOL!
Hotspur

Posted by tblrk2006
2010-03-18 10:28:42

I can do you one better.

Democrats: We will provide for every need, every want, every desire… so long as you bow down and worship us and give your lives in devotion to us.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

CORRECTION: “wealthy Democrat leaders”
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Democrats: We will provide for every need, every want, every desire… so long as you bow down and worship us and give your lives in devotion to us.
Posted by Hotspur
2010-03-18 10:34:08

Good one, just append the following: “We hate the competition.”
Tom_Paine_1776

“I would venture to say they have bigger problems.”

Hotspur,
Like clarity of thinking? That religion is an outdated institution that serves no better than to enslave man in ignorance (i.e. ignore evolution), hide pedophiles and rapists, etc.?
Mike_M

“That religion is an outdated institution that serves no better than to enslave man in ignorance (i.e. ignore evolution), hide pedophiles and rapists, etc.?”

That’s a much better description of teacher’s unions, actually. Plus priests don’t paid 100 grand of taxpayer money a year to sit around in a rubber room after they’ve molested or assaulted a kid like union teachers do.
Hotspur

Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 10:35:34

No, Tom. Like pride. If someone is so prideful they cannot even accept goodwill from a churchgoer, I think they have some serious soul-searching to do. If an atheist offered me assistance, I’m not refusing his help because he thinks the idea of G-d is akin to believing in the Tooth Fairy. I’m going to show some gratitude and humility. That’s what mature people do.

I’m wondering if this applies to you.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Like clarity of thinking? That religion is an outdated institution that serves no better than to enslave man in ignorance (i.e. ignore evolution), hide pedophiles and rapists, etc.?
Posted by Tom_Paine_1776
2010-03-18 10:35:34

Tom, you just demonstrated liberals perfectly. One example: NAMBLA is a huge supporter of the Democratic party.

Our public schools promote secularism and are in terrible shape.

Thank you once again. Keep ‘em coming!
whats_up

That’s a much better description of teacher’s unions, actually. Plus priests don’t paid 100 grand of taxpayer money a year to sit around in a rubber room after they’ve molested or assaulted a kid like union teachers do.

Posted by Mike_M
2010-03-18 10:41:09

No they get transferred to another location so they can molest more kids, or they get put in charge of the kids choir, etc…
whats_up

Our public schools promote secularism and are in terrible shape.

Thank you once again. Keep ‘em coming!

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 10:43:09

No doubt some public schools are in bad shape, others not so much.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

No doubt some public schools are in bad shape, others not so much.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 10:52:30

Name them. That will be one very short list.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

No doubt some public schools are in bad shape, others not so much.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 10:52:30

If you’re going to list some “blue ribbon” schools, save your time. Last year, my wife and I looked at a local elementary “blue ribbon” public school for our children. We found out:

- They don’t teach grammar.
- They teach “new math.”
- Their library contained some books about “modern topics” such as learning about sex. Did I say that this was an elementary school?

We also personally heard children use profanity.

In short, our children are doing better when they were homeschooled than their counterparts.
Mike_M

“No they get transferred to another location so they can molest more kids, or they get put in charge of the kids choir, etc…”

Well good thing school vouchers can be used for any private school then instead of just Catholic ones. No voucher? You’re stuck with the public schools and just f-ed. Often times literally.
whats_up

In short, our children are doing better when they were homeschooled than their counterparts.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 11:02:52

In your opinion maybe they are, then again maybe they arent. Heaven forbid that children use profanity, perhaps they heard it from their parents. Unfortuantly children are learning about sex at a younger age, therefore the schools need to keep up due to many parents not talking about that subject to their children. Its is too bad that schools are required to teach subjects that parents refuse to do, that isnt how it should be but that is the reality. I hope you dont shelter you kids too much, when they get free in the world sometimes that doesnt work so well. Good luck.
whats_up

Well good thing school vouchers can be used for any private school then instead of just Catholic ones. No voucher? You’re stuck with the public schools and just f-ed. Often times literally.

Posted by Mike_M
2010-03-18 11:20:04

Ah so spreading the wealth is okay in this situation, gotcha.
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 10:51:28

That is until the whole scandal goes public and the church purges those rpiests from public service, right WU? Because though they made mistakes they have made moves to correct them. And despite those mistakes they are still one of the largest and most effective agents of charity worldwide.
whats_up

Name them. That will be one very short list.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 10:58:06

You obviously havent done your research then have you. I am not surprised, with your closed minded attitude you wouldnt.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

In your opinion maybe they are, then again maybe they arent.

So now you’re claiming that you know my children better than me. Before you claim that you never said that then how would you know that they aren’t?

Heaven forbid that children use profanity, perhaps they heard it from their parents.

Obviously. Trouble is, the teachers are prohibited from stopping them from using profanity.

Unfortuantly children are learning about sex at a younger age, therefore the schools need to keep up due to many parents not talking about that subject to their children.

Um, elementary schools do not need to have those books in the library in the first place. Again, do I need to repeat that this is an elementary school? What part of “elementary school” escaped you?

Its is too bad that schools are required to teach subjects that parents refuse to do, that isnt how it should be but that is the reality.

Yes, because parents think that the school will do it for them. That is one disadvantage of “free.” Private schools can set higher standards.

I hope you dont shelter you kids too much, when they get free in the world sometimes that doesnt work so well. Good luck.

I guess all of the homeschooling groups plus sports, play dates, etc. aren’t good enough?

Another dose of whats_up’s ignorance.
Mike_M

“Ah so spreading the wealth is okay in this situation, gotcha.”

Already debunked, please try to keep up.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

You obviously havent done your research then have you. I am not surprised, with your closed minded attitude you wouldnt.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 11:23:35

You didn’t answer my question and now you’re running away like coward.

Typical.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Ah so spreading the wealth is okay in this situation, gotcha.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 11:22:24

You do realize that this could be thrown right back at you.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

No they get transferred to another location so they can molest more kids, or they get put in charge of the kids choir, etc…
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 10:51:28

Ah, so using judgmentalism is okay in this situation. Gotcha.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

No they get transferred to another location so they can molest more kids, or they get put in charge of the kids choir, etc…
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 10:51:28

I guess that would make them homosexual pedophiles, huh w_u?

That ought to piss him off!
whats_up

I guess all of the homeschooling groups plus sports, play dates, etc. aren’t good enough?

Another dose of whats_up’s ignorance.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 11:26:12

Oh there is no doubt that many home school children do just fine, however there are also some that have trouble adapting to the society around them because they have been sheltered too much. Much of that is what the parents will allow. I have no problem with you homeschooling, I just hope you understand the pitfalls. Yet you seem to have a problem with those who want to send their children to public schools, why is that?
whats_up

Obviously. Trouble is, the teachers are prohibited from stopping them from using profanity.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 11:26:12

Yes teachers are limited to what punishments that they can use, but to say they are prohibited from stopping them is just plain lying King.
whats_up

I guess that would make them homosexual pedophiles, huh w_u?

That ought to piss him off!

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 11:35:28

Yes you are correct that would make the homosexual pedophiles, why would that piss me off???
whats_up

Ah so spreading the wealth is okay in this situation, gotcha.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 11:22:24

You do realize that this could be thrown right back at you.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 11:28:31

What? It sounds like you are for spreading the wealth when it is for a cause you believe in.
whats_up

And despite those mistakes they are still one of the largest and most effective agents of charity worldwide.

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-18 11:23:02

I see and that forgives them the massive coverup of institutionalized abuse against children for decades? Seriously you cant be making that argument.
whats_up

Its is too bad that schools are required to teach subjects that parents refuse to do, that isnt how it should be but that is the reality.

Yes, because parents think that the school will do it for them. That is one disadvantage of “free.” Private schools can set higher standards.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 11:26:12

So this is actually the schools fault, is that what you are trying to say here? Please man, if the parents would teach these things, then the schools wouldnt have to, place the blame where it belongs, on the parents.
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

I see and that forgives them the massive coverup of institutionalized abuse against children for decades? Seriously you cant be making that argument.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 12:11:19

Did I say that, cum-stain? You’re attacks are based solely on ONE issue with the church, and ONLY one Church at that, while completely overlooking all the good that churches do Catholic and otherwise.
Mike_M

“Oh there is no doubt that many home school children do just fine, however there are also some that have trouble adapting to the society around them because they have been sheltered too much.”

This is an old and debunked anecdote about homeschooling, nothing more. There is absolutely no evidence to support that homeschooled children have any more social problems or difficulties than the general population.
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 12:13:17

It is the schools fault before schools got into the business of teaching sex-ed parents did it and the issues of teeen preganacy were nothing like they are today.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

So this is actually the schools fault, is that what you are trying to say here? Please man, if the parents would teach these things, then the schools wouldnt have to, place the blame where it belongs, on the parents.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 12:13:17

Whats_up,

The more I read your posts the more I’m convinced that you abuse hard drugs. How fucking stupid are you?

Nowhere did I imply that it was the school’s responsibility. I merely stated that more and more parents who send their children to public schools expect that concept.

Of course it’s the parents’ responsibility, dipshit! The problem is, more parents expect public schools as a free entitlement as a glorified babysitting service.

Opening schools for everyone is a double-edge sword. The pros are obvious for higher standards but the con is that the only way to open access to everyone is that the school has to set very low standards.
Hotspur

Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 12:13:17

For once, I agree with you on something: parents should be teaching their kids and not expecting the schools to be the parent.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Oh there is no doubt that many home school children do just fine, however there are also some that have trouble adapting to the society around them because they have been sheltered too much.

I won’t hold my breath for the evidence that you won’t provide to prove that statement.

Obviously, you pay too much attention to the public teachers unions to see reality.

Much of that is what the parents will allow. I have no problem with you homeschooling, I just hope you understand the pitfalls.

Trust me whats_up. If there is one thing I learned on this
site is that I evaluate every situation FAR BETTER than you. If I relied on your standards then my 12 year-old will still be on the first grade level.

Yet you seem to have a problem with those who want to send their children to public schools, why is that?

Um, maybe for the reasons I clearly stated earlier?

Did you get a bad sample of cocaine today? Am I going to have to repeat my statements five or six more times to get my point across?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Yet you seem to have a problem with those who want to send their children to public schools, why is that?

My “problem” is very simple: the system doesn’t work. PERIOD!

I’m interested in solving the problem yet you’re interested in protecting the status quo.

You can try to infer that my children are suffering because they’re homeschooled but they fall flat (again).

Unlike you, my wife and I put our children ahead of the teachers’ unions. Try to spin this as much as you want but that makes you a part of the problem, not the solution.
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

Its an absolute truth that black families want school choice the most and black children suffer from a lack of school choice the most. Its also a fact that every fat cat politician who takes a check from the teachers’ unions to oppose school choice also sends their kids to a private school.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Yet you seem to have a problem with those who want to send their children to public schools, why is that?

If public school is so wonderful, why doesn’t Obama send his daughters to one?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Its an absolute truth that black families want school choice

Once again, the left only supports “choice” when death is one of the choices.
whats_up

It is the schools fault before schools got into the business of teaching sex-ed parents did it and the issues of teeen preganacy were nothing like they are today.

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-18 12:30:01

What utter bullshit, really do some research my friend, do some research.
whats_up

Yet you seem to have a problem with those who want to send their children to public schools, why is that?

My “problem” is very simple: the system doesn’t work. PERIOD!

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 13:02:23

Depends on what part of the country that you are in King, public schools work fine for the majority of the country. Are there problems, sure are and they need to be addressed. If you want to home school your children that is your right, however if your neighbor wants to send their children to public school, WHAT FUCKIN BUSINESS IS THAT OF YOURS?? You seem to want to be able to decide how best to educate your kid, but dont seem to want to give every other parent that choice. How arrogant are you?
whats_up

If public school is so wonderful, why doesn’t Obama send his daughters to one?

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 13:23:29

I dont know, perhaps his choice is not to, what does that have to do with anyone else’s choice?
whats_up

Did I say that, cum-stain? You’re attacks are based solely on ONE issue with the church, and ONLY one Church at that, while completely overlooking all the good that churches do Catholic and otherwise.

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-18 12:21:11

And you seem to want to give them a pass because of all the good that they do.
whats_up

Yet you seem to have a problem with those who want to send their children to public schools, why is that?

Um, maybe for the reasons I clearly stated earlier?

Did you get a bad sample of cocaine today? Am I going to have to repeat my statements five or six more times to get my point across?

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 12:41:01

I see because YOU have a problem with public schools, then they should be shut down, ya your arrogance is the problem.
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:11:33

So teen pregnancies where higher in the 40s and 50s than they were in the 70-90s?? Because sex-ed didn’t really become the norm until the late 60′s…
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

And you seem to want to give them a pass because of all the good that they do.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:16:56

No but I refuse to condemn an entire organization for a few a bad apples, or more moreimportantly the entire religion for a few bad apples.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

I see because YOU have a problem with public schools, then they should be shut down, ya your arrogance is the problem.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:18:31

When did I claim that schools should be “shut down?” Hold on a moment……(checks posts). Nope, didn’t infer that anywhere.

Whats_up, here’s a suggestion: don’t be a proponent of public schools. You’ve been more stupid today than your usual idiotic self, that IS saying a lot!

Can you please TRY to put some effort into this discussion next time?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

I dont know, perhaps his choice is not to, what does that have to do with anyone else’s choice?
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:15:20

That’s odd, you’re perfectly fine with health care being forced upon the American people. You do a 180 when you replace “health care” with “public schools.”
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

And you seem to want to give them a pass because of all the good that they do.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:16:56

Public school teachers have molested students before. Why do you not demand the same standards for them?

Catholics have banded together to throw out the pedophile priests. When will liberals demand that pedophile teachers be fired and/or imprisoned? (crickets chirping)
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Whats_up, here’s a little reminder from the RWN archives:

http://rightwingnews.com/2010/02/teacher-francisco-olivares-still-on-payroll-despite-molesting-students/?comments=show#comments

It’s easier to throw out a bad priest than a bad teacher.
whats_up

Catholics have banded together to throw out the pedophile priests. When will liberals demand that pedophile teachers be fired and/or imprisoned? (crickets chirping)

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 14:42:53

King,

While some teachers may be out, the majority have been put in prison and fired from teaching. You really should keep up on current events my friend.
whats_up

So teen pregnancies where higher in the 40s and 50s than they were in the 70-90s?? Because sex-ed didn’t really become the norm until the late 60′s…

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-18 14:30:17

Your time line is just a little off, sex ed became the norm in the late 70′s and early 80′s, again try educating yourself.
whats_up

Catholics have banded together to throw out the pedophile priests. When will liberals demand that pedophile teachers be fired and/or imprisoned? (crickets chirping)

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 14:42:53

Sure they have, how many of them have spent time in jail?
whats_up

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 14:38:10

Ah so you dont want to close them, you just dont think that people should be allowed to send their kids there, what about their personal choices in educating their children?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Sure they have, how many of them have spent time in jail?
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:51:49

The vast majority.

You should really keep up with current events, dumbass.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Ah so you dont want to close them, you just dont think that people should be allowed to send their kids there, what about their personal choices in educating their children?
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:53:42

You really are a fucking retard. Is English your second language or do you enjoy being stupid?

Provide the date/time stamp where I made that claim.

Your time line is just a little off, sex ed became the norm in the late 70′s and early 80′s, again try educating yourself.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 14:50:40

Yeah, the same time that teen pregnancies have been skyrocketing.

Try educating yourself before demanding that from others.
whats_up

The vast majority.

You should really keep up with current events, dumbass.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 14:53:55

Bullshit King, please by all means show us that vast majority that has spent time in jail.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Bullshit King, please by all means show us that vast majority that has spent time in jail.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 15:06:56

Glad to…once you provide the same evidence to support your 2010-03-18 14:49:23 post.

Considering your stupidity today, I wouldn’t be surprised if you accidentally post a “Sesame Street” video.

I also notice that you didn’t provide a date/time stamp where I stated that I want all schools to close. If I really did write that you would have provided the stamp by now. Your defeat is acknowledged.
whats_up

Glad to…once you provide the same evidence to support your 2010-03-18 14:49:23 post.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 15:11:30

Well we need a start King, do you think that less than 50% of teachers that have molested children have done time and had their teaching certificate revoked, do you think it is lower than that, higher?

Interesting report by the Boston Grand Jury that investigated Preist abuse, they found that not one priest ever did time. Not one.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Well we need a start King, do you think that less than 50% of teachers that have molested children have done time and had their teaching certificate revoked, do you think it is lower than that, higher?

You made the claim, support it or go fuck yourself.

Interesting report by the Boston Grand Jury that investigated Preist abuse, they found that not one priest ever did time. Not one.

Let’s see….one grand jury representing one diocese within one state in the United States. Yeah, real good detective work there, sheep humper.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Well we need a start King, do you think that less than 50% of teachers that have molested children have done time and had their teaching certificate revoked, do you think it is lower than that, higher?

It looks like whats_up is trying to weasel his way out of the corner. Once again, whats_up put his foot, ankle, calf and knee into his mouth.
whats_up

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 15:29:50

You cant even answer a simple question, thats okay King, we know the answer.

Little has been done to the many, many priests that have abused children world wide for DECADES, very few were even turned in, that is not the case with teachers however and the majority of them that have been caught have done jail time, unlike the good old Catholic Church that knew this was going on and didnt even turn in the pedophiles.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Whats_up, if that’s the best you can do, you lost.

Nice try. The vast majority of teachers have NOT been prosecuted and, in fact, are still employed because liberals (like you) sacrifice children for your union false gods.

Get back to me when you grow a pair and produce actual evidence. I won’t hold my breath.

whats_up = PWNED!

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Hawc18

These vouchers make perfect sense if they work they way I’ve interpretted them to work. A portion of tge public school fund, (a tax on everyone, child or not) is taken from the budget and reassigned to the voucher program. So in essence, a person is taking their contribution back from the public fund they won’t be using to pay for a quality education for their child that steps in tune to their morals and values. If I’m wrong on how this works, please correct me, but that seems like a perfectly fair system.
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didnt even turn in the pedophiles.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 15:32:50

A subject you know well. As you are one.
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What the hell does a discussion of Catholic priests engaging in sexual activity with teenage boys have to do with teaching and vouchers? Other than a pathetic attempt to derail the conversation which the left always looks hideously stupid and spiteful toward kids and poor families in, that is.
whats_up

Nice try. The vast majority of teachers have NOT been prosecuted and, in fact, are still employed because liberals (like you) sacrifice children for your union false gods.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-18 15:37:24

It is really amazing how disconnected from reality that you are King, really sad. I dont know how to respond to such a moronic statement as the one you just made above, your ignorance is astounding.
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Posted by whats_up
2010-03-19 00:45:19

You can provide the statitics to support you CLAIM right??? I mean you’re the one saying teachers have been prosecuted, you can find the raw data that supports it?
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And speaking of sats you also have those stats on the teen pregnancy rates prior to 1970?? That you you SWEAR were higher before sex-ed was introduced in schools??
whats_up

And speaking of sats you also have those stats on the teen pregnancy rates prior to 1970?? That you you SWEAR were higher before sex-ed was introduced in schools??

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-19 08:44:48

Are you just and idiot normally, seriously you should research things before you open your mouth.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/05/1/gr050107.html

here is one of the money quotes:

the rate of teen childbearing in the United States has fallen steeply since the late 1950s, from an all time high of 96 births per 1,000 women aged 15-19 in 1957 to an all time low of 49 in 2000
MediumHeadBoy

Are you just and idiot normally, seriously you should research things before you open your mouth.

And you might want to study English for a while before you post again. Fucking clueless cockholster.
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Posted by whats_up
2010-03-19 10:35:45

You fucking idiot, that’s BIRTHS not PREGANCIES and does not take into account the number of pregnancies that were ABORTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or even those lost to natural causes!!!

Also something the article mention which I found very interesting is that of those teen pregancies in 1950 almost 90% WERE ALREADY MARRIED!

So since UNWED TEEN PREGANCY is MUCH higher today than in the ’40s, while nearly 80% of todays pergnant teens are NOT MARRIED, I’d say Sex-Ed is failing and is a lead cause of UNWED TEEN PREGANCIES.
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Your original post on the schools and parents!!!!

So this is actually the schools fault, is that what you are trying to say here? Please man, if the parents would teach these things, then the schools wouldnt have to, place the blame where it belongs, on the parents.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-18 12:13:17

Back in the Fifties the PARENTS taught their children to get married before getting pregnant, or shamed them into it if they got pregnant before marriage. Along come the sexual revolution, the take over of sex-ed by schools, legalized abortion, and boom now the majority of teen pregancies are OUT OF WEDLOCK!!! Why because SCHOOLS have taken over the responsibility of the parents, and taught the parents they, the schools, can do BETTER.
whats_up

You fucking idiot, that’s BIRTHS not PREGANCIES and does not take into account the number of pregnancies that were ABORTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or even those lost to natural causes!!!

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-19 11:46:21

Jesus you are dumb, for your observation to be true that would have to mean that the abortion rate for teens has gone up, when in fact it has gone down, dont you even research these things? There is no data, none, zilch to support your claim, but being the good conservative that you are you will stick with it no matter what. How can you live in a world where you deny reality on a constant basis?
whats_up

Why because SCHOOLS have taken over the responsibility of the parents, and taught the parents they, the schools, can do BETTER.

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-19 12:14:10

What crap, typical conservative place the blame on the school rather on where it belongs, THE PARENT
whats_up

So since UNWED TEEN PREGANCY is MUCH higher today than in the ’40s, while nearly 80% of todays pergnant teens are NOT MARRIED, I’d say Sex-Ed is failing and is a lead cause of UNWED TEEN PREGANCIES.

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-19 11:46:21

Not only can you not research, you fail basic logic. What the numbers mean is that less teens are getting married. That corresponds to the average age of marriage going up since the 50′s. Now most people wait until their mid 20′s to get married. Seriously look this stuff up before you look so stupid, or better yet stop talking about subjects that you know nothing about.
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

What kind of colossal idiot thinks that the teen pregnancy and abortion rate has gone down since the 1950s? Wait, I guess the kind that posts under the name whats_up and insists on it being true to the point of becoming insulting without the slightest shred of an attempt to offer any facts to support this bizarre fantasy.
whats_up

Posted by Christopher_Taylor
2010-03-19 15:03:41

CT,

I have posted ample facts that this is the case and not one conservative have posted anything that disputes this, but continue to live in your fantasy world, if you have facts that dispute this please by all means bring them forward or stick your head in the sand.
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

Posted by whats_up
2010-03-19 12:27:03

YOU FUCKING RETARD it’s right in the link YOU posted preganacies OUT OF wedlock are 60 percentage higher today than were in the 50′s. YOU can not refute it, there’s a very nice graph on the page YOU posted that shows just that fact.

80% of pregnant teens in 1950 were MARRIED, today it’s less than 20%. Are so stupid that you can’t read a simple graph?? Just because most people are marrying later doesn’t have anything to do with HOW MAY TEENS ARE GETTING PREGNANT OUT OF WEDLOCK.

if you have facts that dispute this please by all means bring them forward or stick your head in the sand.
Posted by whats_up
2010-03-19 15:14:15

YOUR OWN LINK CONTRADICTS your FACTS, MORON.

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