Election Night 2009: Open Thread

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Election Night 2009: Open Thread

Written By : John Hawkins

(This post will be semi-regularly updated for the next few hours)

8:26

* Bob McDonnell has been declared the victor in Virginia! Woo-ha! Republican takeover!

* The polls have closed in New Jersey, but there aren’t a lot of numbers yet. All indications seem to be that it’s fairly close. This would seem to be an extremely good sign.

This seems pretty darn big: In New Jersey, CNN’s exit poll says Christie won independents 58-33 over Corzine, with indies making up 27 percent of the electorate.

Public Policy Polling notes that their final poll had Christie winning the independents by 23; the exit polls indicate Christie won them by 25. They interpret this as a sign that most Daggett supporters and undecideds went into the Christie pile. PPP’s final poll put Christie up 6 overall.

8:42

* From Newsmax, courtesy of Michelle Malkin.

Democratic pollster Patrick Caddell blew the whistle Tuesday on vote fraud in New Jersey’s race for governor, citing “chicanery” in the bitterly contested gubernatorial race between incumbent Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine and Republican Chris Christie.

“I’m convinced Christie has the votes,” Caddell told Fox News host Neil Cavuto. “The question is whether he has a lead that’s steal proof, as I call it, with all the things going on.”

…Caddell, who has conducted polling for the likes of former President Jimmy Carter, then-Sen. Joe Biden, and former California Gov. Jerry Brown, pointed to unusual absentee-ballot voting patterns in some areas of the state.

“The city of Camden and other areas that are African-American are voting more absentee ballots than they did…in 2008, with the first African-American as a [presidential] nominee. In a gubernatorial race, then I’m sorry, something is…

9:01 PM

It’s too early to put a lot of stock in these results yet, but so far, so good in New Jersey. With 17% of the vote in…

Christie, Chris: GOP 216,458 52%
Corzine, Jon: (i) Dem 171,220 41%
Daggett, Christopher: Ind 22,864 6%

9:05

NY-23 exit polls at 5:00 PM – Hoffman (Conservative): 50.3%, Owens (Dem) 47.2%, Scozzfava (Rep) 2.5%

9:07 “Corzine’s biggest fear: ACORN’s copy machine brks & they run out of ‘recently discovered’ absentee ballots.” — Stephen Kruiser

9:27

New Jersey: With 37% of the vote in…

Christie, Chris: GOP 468,654 52%
Corzine, Jon (i): Dem 367,819 41%
Daggett, Christopher: Ind 50,010 6%

9:38

The early, early, early results in NY-23

Owens: 49.7%
Hoffman: 46.6%
Scozzafava: 3.6%

9:53

Via Jake Tapper:

NJ – 58% precincts reporting: Christie 50.4; Corzine 43.5; Daggett 5.3

10:05

Virginia is a win for the GOP. New Jersey is looking VERY GOOD at this point. NY-23 is still up in the air. The Democrat is definitely overperforming. It’s going to be close and it’s far from clear who’s going to win at this point.

10:09

Good news in New Jersey. Bad news out of NY-23.

“Associated Press says Republican Christie wins NJ governors office. RNC Chair Steele enroute by charter.” — LATimestot

“eeesh… 20% of precincts in, Owens 51%, Hoffman 43%” — AceofSpadesHQ

10:18

21% reporting in NY23 and Democrat Bill Owens is up 8. No sense of which votes are in and which are still out. — RealClearPolitics

10:57

“Two thirds in: Hoffman still down by three” –allahpundit

11:23

NBC has NY-23 for the Democrat. Seems a little early for that.

From Twitter, unverified, about a heavily Democratic seat few people thought would be this close:

#CD10 – Garamendi 50% (4,855 votes) Harmer 45% (4,410 votes) 22 of 34 precincts reporting.

11:33

Unverified, from Twitter: NBC moves back to “Owens leads”

Also,,

The Plattsburgh attorney has 57,050 votes compared to Conservative Doug Hoffman, a Lake Placid CPA, with 54,538 votes.

Dede Scozzafava, a Republican who dropped out of the race Saturday, has 6,982 votes.

There are more than 10,000 absentee votes to still be counted.

Owens now leads in Jefferson, St. Lawrence, Franklin, Clinton and Essex counties.

Hoffman leads in Lewis, Oswego, Oneida, Fulton, Hamilton and Madison counties.

Owens is maintaining a 48 percent to 46 percent lead.

http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

So far so good.. but I still fear Christie will win the NJ election, but Corzine/ACORN will win the inevitable recount, Al Franken style. You know… uncounted ballots will be found in car trunks, garbage cans and under bushes for weeks, and all of them marked for Corzine.
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

Looks like yeah Cav. The other two will be solid defeats for Democrats, looks like as well.
SanChez

Let's hope the early results in NY are showing mostly DIM strongholds
Mike_M

Demolition job in VA.

The voters have clearly sent Corzine home in NJ but I'm sure ballots will be popping out of car trunks and duffel bags for weeks.

NY-23 too close to call.

Looks like Ohio is going to get a craptastic casino scheme written into the state Constitution as well. Can't be all good news.
CoolCzech

Per the New York Times, the current state of the race in NJ:

Christopher J. Christie Rep. 822,518 49.9%

Jon S. Corzine Dem. 722,070 43.8

Somewhere in the fetid bowels of the White House, a knife-wielding ballerina wraps dead fish in newspaper…
RWNReader2

NJ.com (Hawkin's link above) calls the NJ race for Christie with 71% of the vote in.
RWNReader2

you know, I'm beginning to think it's not all bad Obama is ignoring the war in Afganistan. It's looking like every time he picks something to spend his time on, it fails.
CoolCzech

Too bad it's looking like Hoffman is crapping out in NY-23.

Can it be that district was grossly misrepresented as a "solidly conservative" district?
SanChez

The RNC should definitely demand their money back from Scuzzy in NY, even if Hoffman wins.
CoolCzech

Oh well, you may as well brace yourselves for tomorrow's Media Spin:

Virginia: Means NOTHING

New Jersey: Means NOTHING

Obscure District in New York: It wasAll About Obama, Baby!
The_Mutant

From the Politoco, 38.6% reporting…

Owens – 49.8%

Hoffman – 45.1%

Seems to be closing the gap…
http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

It will be tomorrow morning before NY 23 is called. Nixon is confused, we were told all day that it was a traditionally conservative district. By fucking liberals who think Arlen Specter is a far right winger.

Bye Bye Corzine. Nixon sort of liked him at one time. Of course, his old firm made out like bandits on TARP.
redfish

What does this all really mean? Nothing! We still have the same crappy Congress (both parties) screwing the country.

Check out what both of the winning Govs ran on. It is not the same tired party line. They did not run far right either. Both Govs did run right enough to show that the current Congress and President are taking this country down the wrong path for our future and that is why they won.

What is 2010 going to hold and what will the candidates that win run on?
BIG

Christie wins. It doesn't look like the ACORN people could get a union guy out to fix their copy machine.

It is not looking good for Hoffman.
Bildo

Republicans didn't just take the Governor's Mansion in Virginia. It was a clean sweep of the Governor, Attorney General, and Lieutenant Governor all getting over 60% of the vote. Liberalism is dying in Virgina.

Unfortunately, Scozzafava got 5.4% of the vote in the NY-23rd which is looks like is enough to tilt it towards Owens. 74.4% of the vote is counted, so bad news for us on that front.
http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

What it means is fiscal conservatives will be able to make a serious run for whatever position they are running for. Is it a referendum on Obamateur? Maybe, maybe not. New Jersey hurts, Obamateur worked hard for Corzine. Really hard. Karl Rove reviewed all the help they gave Corzine. It has to personally hurt Obamateur.

Virginia has had a shift to the right. For now. If, and a big if, the Virginia State GOP focuses on fiscal conservatism in its 2010 candidates, the state could be prime to go red in 2012 for a fiscally conservative GOP nominee, assuming there is one.

Still, a good night.
Mike_M

Corzine got smacked pretty hard. I doubt even ACORN will be able to fabricate 100,000 votes. NJ going Red has got to scare the crap out of Obama and the Dems.

Looks like Hoffman may not make it. Still a net gain for conservatism though. We're spared another RINO in the House and sent a huge warning to the GOP. But maybe he can still pull it out.
TheRightNut

Still holding out for the NY-23 race but it doesn't look good. But still a good night for the GOP. Let's hope this goes all the way to next November.
SanChez

If the results stay this close, there could be a long drawn-out court battle for NY23
SanChez

If NY haven't seen the evils of the DEMS yet, I think it might be signs that some parts of the country still need to experience more obama pain before they wake up.
http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

The only good part about Hoffman losing is how we get to watch D-Vega, after spending the entire day telling us in no uncertain terms that the NY-23 absolutely, positively did not matter one bit, will now spend the entire day telling us how it was the most important race of the century.
Robert_Ingersoll

Looks like Ms. Palin cant get anyone elected.
SanChez

Here are some lessons learned from NY23:

Newt must go. His idiocy contributed massively to the Dim victory. Add in an RNC full of RINOS.

Palin has clout. Even if Hoffman couldn't pull it off, the close race reflects well on Palin.

Dem underhanded maneuvering pays off better than obama's outright support (as shown in NJ)

Anybody that contributed to the RNC: You feel good about how they are spending your money?
redfish

- Posted by Dick_Nixon 2009-11-03 23:37:24

Virginia has had a shift to the right. For now. If, and a big if, the Virginia State GOP focuses on fiscal conservatism in its 2010 candidates, the state could be prime to go red in 2012 for a fiscally conservative GOP nominee, assuming there is one.

Dearest Dick – You don't live around VA do you? VIRGINIA is a right leaning state and for the most part always has been. The big surprise was how bad the Republican party screwed up the election on the last couple of cycles. Northern VA has grown and that area has shifted to the left but the state (except for college areas) is conservative.

The majority of American people by all accounts are getting tired of the same old politics and negative way the both parties are running for office. The hate filled hard right and left speech is starting to wear thin across the board where we need votes. We had better start being a little – no a lot more open minded about the people we want in our party. The narrow minded view that has previously been held is going to keep the Republicans in the manority.

Got to get to work now. Have a great day. At least we are a bit stronger in a couple of states.
http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

Looks like Ms. Palin cant get anyone elected.

Posted by Robert_Ingersoll

2009-11-04 07:30:40

Go ask ScuzzyFuzzy, who basically threw the race to the Democratic opponent with her endorsement when Sarah Palin nuked her from orbit.

After being endorsed by RINO's and Newt Gingrich, it turned out Scuzzyfuzzy was bought and paid for and threw the election to the person she supposedly campaigned against and opposed.

And it is Mrs. Palin. Learn something before you post here.

Face it, one Facebook post removed the front runner in this race. At least the Rep from that District is openly a Democrat and not a glorified thief.
CoolCzech

I never did understand the idea that Scozzi dropping out of the race would be good for Hoffman:

Scozzi was THE liberal in the race. HER supporters weren't going to go to Hoffman, no matter what… it was entirely predicatble her dropping out would help Owens. It's probably why the Scront dropped out.

I have a hunch that this district simply wasn't as "solidly conservative" as represented – no more than Scront was a "moderate" or even a "conservative" as some illegitimate news services put out. The lesson here is, the Republicans should have nominated the most conservative candidate that they thought the district could accept and went with them from the get-go.

As it was, giving $900K to the Scront to help promote liberalism didn't help Hoffman. Running on a third party line didn't help Hoffman, either. Under the circumstances, though, I think Hoffman did remarkably well even if he didn't quite pull thru. I doubt too many Blue Dogs are taking much comfort from last night's results.
Mike_M

"After being endorsed by RINO's and Newt Gingrich, it turned out Scuzzyfuzzy was bought and paid for and threw the election to the person she supposedly campaigned against and opposed."

Yeah, turns out the interloper that split the vote turned out to be Scuzffvavava…the GOP candidate. If she goes away quietly a month ago (or never runs in the first place), nobody votes for her and Hoffman likely wins. The Republican Party found itself playing Ross Perot in this election. That's got to be embarassing.
CoolCzech

Not quite the Perfect Trifecta I was hoping for going in last night, because Hoffman crapped out, BUT nevertheless a sweet, sweet comeback for the Republicans last night. Dingy Harry has announced Healthcare Reform will now be put off until last year. This effectively means, methinks, it's Dead As a Door Nail. And that Giant Flushing Sound you heard last night was "Cap and Trade" departing the bottom of the Porcelain Bowl for the fetid recesses of Washington's public sewer system. How do you like THEM Apples, D-VEGA?

So, let me celebrate a bit with my homage to Rahm "The Knife" Emanuel:

"Deeds: DEAD! [*THUD* Sound of Steak Knife Stabbing Table]"

"Corzine: DEAD! [*THUD* Sound of Steak Knife Stabbing Table]"

"Healthcare Reform: DEAD! [*THUD* Sound of Steak Knife Stabbing Table]"

"Cap & Trade: [*THUD* Sound of Steak Knife Stabbing Table]"

Brace yourselves for 2010, Liberal Ecoworshipping Socialists! We're Coming For YOU! Oh, and what_up: We're Only Getting Started!
CoolCzech

(uh, healthcare put off until NEXT year, I meant: but of course, by then, it WILL be "last year's news, LOL)
Mike_M

"Looks like Ms. Palin cant get anyone elected"

Neither can Obama. He campaigned heavily for Deeds and Corzine and both got destroyed.
Robert_Ingersoll

He campaigned heavily for Deeds and Corzine and both got destroyed.

@Mike_M,

Obama did campaign heavily for overwhelmingly unpopular Corzine but not for Deeds.

@CoolCzech,

Neither Healthcare Reform is dead (nice of the Republicans to ressurect all the ideas they couldnt get through the Senate when they had control) or Cap and Trade (Republicans will eventually have to show up sometime).
http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

Posted by Mike_M

2009-11-04 08:50:28

Obamateur did have a victory last night. The One is anti gay marriage, and the Maine victory for his cause is a bandaid on that large open wound ripped in his mystique last night.
http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

Cap and Trade (Republicans will eventually have to show up sometime).

Posted by Robert_Ingersoll

2009-11-04 09:14:49

It is safe to say any incumbent who goes for cap and trade and is opposed in 2010 by a fiscal conservative will have a serious issue in getting re-elected. Perhaps political discussion is above your paygrade. Now that Obamateur can focus on healing up after his beating last night, maybe he can make a decision on winning the war in Afghanistan, or was that just another campaign promise to break for the One?
Robert_Ingersoll

@Dick_Nixon,

This is why Afghanistan has been such a complete failure up to today. Please proceed with an agenda ignoring what type of leadership we will leave in place. A couple of election cycles with purple fingers doesn't make a democracy. I applaud the administrations willingness to study the situation as opposed to throwing money and American lives away unnecessarily.
D-Vega

The only good part about Hoffman losing is how we get to watch D-Vega, after spending the entire day telling us in no uncertain terms that the NY-23 absolutely, positively did not matter one bit, will now spend the entire day telling us how it was the most important race of the century.

Heh, heh, heh.
CoolCzech

@CoolCzech,

Neither Healthcare Reform is dead (nice of the Republicans to ressurect all the ideas they couldnt get through the Senate when they had control) or Cap and Trade (Republicans will eventually have to show up sometime).

Posted by Robert_Ingersoll

2009-11-04 09:14:49

Just 'cause you say so don't make it so, Bro.

It's obvious that the Socialists couldn't get it thru Congress at the very height of their power… first they promised before the summer, than by the end of the summer, now by next year. Don't hold your breath, guy.

Cap & Trade was going absolutely NOWHERE even BEFORE last night. Corzine got flushed because even the average liberal voter with kids couldn't afford his taxation approach anymore (I mean, he wanted to raise highway tolls by 800 percent!). You think the lesson from last night is that people want to pay THOUSANDS of dollars, snatched from their kid's food, clothing, and education funds, to indulge your alleged "global warming" fantasies coming off a record cold summer? HAH!

I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi & Henry "Eddie Muenster" Waxman will continue pushing this Anti-American Poison until they utterly expose their party for the pack of deranged leftist looney america Haters they are, but the writing is on the wall: you can add these things to the Equal Rights Amendment as Liberal Westdreams That Won't Happen.
CoolCzech

Is it safe to say that Obama dropped the eye off the ball in Afghanistan so he could go pursue his Cuban-style healthcare debacle, instead?

You Betcha!
whats_up

Neither can Obama. He campaigned heavily for Deeds and Corzine and both got destroyed.

Posted by Mike_M

2009-11-04 08:50:28

He campaigned for Corzine, but not for Deeds Mike, what happened with Hoffman, yesterday you assured us that he was going to win.
CoolCzech

And you assured us Hoffman didn't matter, whats_up. We concur.

BTW, We're just getting started, what_up!
CoolCzech

Palin did the Republicans a favor by getting that hyperliberal cow, Scozzi, jettisoned. Owens is actually more conservative than Scozzi, so IMO Palin did EXCELLENT work in NY23. Not her fault the RINO leadership there gave $900K to promote liberalism in New York.

The real lesson in NY23: even a Third Party Candidate almost beat the Democrat! Don't think last night's many lessons were lost on the somewhat more sane, somewhat less America Loathing, Democrats in Congress.
D-Vega

Geez man. I thought the healthcare bill died in August because of people yelling.
CoolCzech

Geez man. I thought the healthcare bill died in August because of people yelling.

Posted by D-Vega

2009-11-04 10:47:29

Earth to D-Vega: It did.

It just took Reid this long to figure it out.
http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

The real lesson in NY23: even a Third Party Candidate almost beat the Democrat!

It's even better than that: a third party candidate with a wooden personality and no name recognition entered the race at the last minute and nearly beat the combined Republican and Democrat parties.
whats_up

BTW, We're just getting started, what_up!

Posted by CoolCzech

2009-11-04 10:38:38

Is this like that PUMA prediction?
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