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It Has Begun: The Big Social Security Meltdown
Written By : John Hawkins

For years, conservatives have been saying that we need to get a handle on Social Security. Even George Bush, who wasn’t a fiscal conservative, understood the risks and he tried desperately to reform the program — but, not   to avail.

Well now, a few years earlier than most people predicted, the program is going into the red:

A report from the Congressional Budget Office shows that for the first time in 25 years, Social Security is taking in less in taxes than it is spending on benefits.

…No one has officially announced that Social Security will be cash-negative this year. But you can figure it out for yourself, as I did, by comparing two numbers in the recent federal budget update that the nonpartisan CBO issued last week.

The first number is $120 billion, the interest that Social Security will earn on its trust fund in fiscal 2010 (see page 74 of the CBO report). The second is $92 billion, the overall Social Security surplus for fiscal 2010 (see page 116).

This means that without the interest income, Social Security will be $28 billion in the hole this fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30.

Why disregard the interest? Because as people like me have said repeatedly over the years, the interest, which consists of Treasury IOUs that the Social Security trust fund gets on its holdings of government securities, doesn’t provide Social Security with any cash that it can use to pay its bills. The interest is merely an accounting entry with no economic significance.

…Even though an economic recovery might produce some small, fleeting cash surpluses, Social Security’s days of being flush are over.

To be sure — three of the most dangerous words in journalism — the current Social Security cash deficits aren’t all that big, given that Social Security is a $700 billion program this year, and that the government expects to borrow about $1.5 trillion in fiscal 2010 to cover its other obligations, about the same as it borrowed in fiscal 2009.

But this year’s Social Security cash shortfall is a watershed event. Until this year, Social Security was a problem for the future. Now it’s a problem for the present.

For a long, long time in this country, we’ve sacrificed the “future” for the “now.” The problem with doing that is that eventually, the future arrives and you have to deal with it. Say hello to the future of Social Security, folks, because it’s here a little early.

Moreover, it won’t be alone for long. Medicare is going to be next and the Obama Administration is spending money at an unsustainable rate and has no plans to stop — and that’s even before they’ve gotten what would undoubtedly turn into a huge, budget busting health care bill through.

Now, I’m sure that plenty of politicians and “experts” will just wave this off. “Oh, it’s a small amount. We can adjust easily. We’ll just raise taxes a bit or borrow a little more money. It’s nothing to worry about.”

Let me tell you what history teaches us, folks. It teaches us that an accumulation of things like this are what wreck great nations because it prevents them from having the financial flexibility they need to deal with the sort of major unexpected setbacks that history throws at them again and again.

Having Social Security go into the red should be a major wake-up call for Americans. We can’t afford to keep spending like this. We can’t afford to keep sacrificing our future for our “now.”

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  • Mike_M

    The collapse of the welfare state has kicked off, and there’s nothing the Democrats can do to stop it at this point.

    Social Security is now officially a lie. Not only can the program not hope to pay benefits to the suckers paying into it right now, it can’t even afford to pay the people owed benefits for their past contributions. It’s been known for years that so sane person under age 40 has ever counted on Social Security as part of their retirement plans.

    The 70 year old liberal lie has blown up in their faces, and their plan can no longer support the dependents they worked so hard to create. Big Government has taken a dump on the American people once again and has taught us the lesson conservatives have known all along: self-reliance is the bast and only way to live. Now just let us keep our own money and don’t piss it away on a lie.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Look for the following:

    1. Liberals to blame Bush (a gimmie Nixon knows)
    2. Liberal trolls here to bash Bush and the GOP (again, no shit).
    3. Ignore the fact that Obama has spent trillions on bs programs without addressing Social Security in his programs.
    4. Liberals to call for raising taxes to fix the problems, and cutting benefits to the “rich”, regardless of how much these “rich” folks paid into the system.
    5. Blame Bush.

    Wait for it.

  • Smithwick

    Unfortunately any attempts to alter Social Security (other than to offer to increase it endlessly) will fail. Seniors vote, and they do so in their own best interests rather than for the younger taxpayers or even the nation in general (no not all, but in general).

    Basically it has to collapse under it’s own weight before any meaningful change takes place.

  • CoolCzech

    Nonsense! There Is No Social Security Crisis!

    The Democrats SAID so!

    Besides, Dennis Kusinich just the other day said Social Security is “Rock Solid.”

  • http://www.conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/ reelman

    OBAMA: DEBT LIMIT MARKER

    Here we are, its 2010 and the democrats running the American congress had a great chance to show “change”.
    The debt limit bill was on the table. The monster Obama budget 1 (a massive 12% increase, 4x inflation) was signed last December.
    The media is NOW aghast after running the national debt numbers. The holders of American debt like Red China expressed alarm at the total lack of fiscal restraint LAST YEAR by the democrat congress which has been in charge of taxpayer money since January 2007 (not 2009).
    Three years of vote-buying gov-meant (aka socialist) spending bills with a pile of tax proposals expected to fall on the voters next year and beyond. Then, the demo-socialists got hammered in multiple elections. The voters have some common sense for reality.
    But Obama continues to speak as if he is on another planet with different economic laws.
    So the vote on the bill was 217-212 to stay in denial, to stay in the quicksand, to postpone reckoning, to blame shift and to pretend “its not our fault”. At least 30 democrats voted for fiscal sanity. That vote alone may save most of them come November. The jobless and growth figures continue to be very bad and later revised to be worse then their first release. Obama still acts as if he is on another planet with different economic laws.
    The 2010 fiscal facts are even worse, the pressure to crush the taxpayers with new taxes assured and the business world more circumspect (if that is possible) about hiring. We now hear its actually over 8 million lost jobs and even Wal-Mart is laying off workers. States are losing tax revenue daily due to the democrat congressional spending since early 2007.
    You will not escape the penalty for trusting demo-socialists with your credit cards. We still hear America “must spend its way out of recession”. Is this rational?
    Remember congress stole ALL your Social Security funds years ago and spent it on vote-buying. That congress will be coming back to your wallet on that issue they refused to address the past 20 years. You will not like what you hear about that or anything else. The picture will be painted that “somebody” spent trillions too much and to avoid disaster you will pay and pay and pay. Its all bad but never “their bad”.
    At least ten percent of Americans are treading water as the demo-socialists keep handing them bricks.
    You heard the socialist thunder in 2009, you will feel the socialist lightning in 2010.
    J. Carter Obama’s confidently told lies and demonizing will not pay your bills.
    http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    Yeah well the deadline got pushed back a lot because tax revenues took a nosedive in 2009. They’re down again this year, but the government is looking for new ways to get them up again. Not by growing the economy, of course. By raising taxes and raiding things like your retirement.

  • RWNReader2

    If Barney Frank can get away with claiming that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are peachy keen and nothing’s wrong, and pay no price, then there probably isn’t any way to do anything about Social Security.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Posted by Dick_Nixon
    2010-02-04 15:10:08

    D_N, you’re being too kind! I’m afraid I’ll have to correct your list a little:

    6. Blame Bush
    7. Blame Cheney
    8. Blame Limbaugh and Beck
    9. Pretend there isn’t a crisis
    10. Claim that there was a surplus
    11. Blame Bush
    12. Blame you, me and the rest of the conservatives on the site
    13. Blame Rumsfeld (why should he be kept out of all the fun?)
    14. Ask when we tried to do something about it
    15. Blame Bush

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by Kingfisher
    2010-02-04 21:51:11

    /golf clap

  • Regconservative

    http://www.veteranoutrage.com

    Told ya

    President bush tried to warn you liberal friggin morons
    But noo ..
    Democrats said social security is as stable as
    Fanny and Freddie mac..
    Sure and after 500 BILLION has gone missing
    What do the dumb ass democrats suggest we do?

    Why start loaning more money to people who cant pay it back..

    So now Social security is bankrupt..
    and what do you think the dumb ass democrats will do?
    Why get an IOU from california
    Deposit that into the Social security account
    then send all the seniors and IOU..

    While sending our tax money to support
    all the islamic terrorists worldwide..

    MORONS..

  • no_hope_lotsa_change

    They should just axe the entire program. Better yet, get rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment benefits, food stamps, agriculture subsidies, etc etc etc.

    Privatize everything!

  • fiscal_conservative

    I am glad we didn’t put our Social Security in the stock market. We saved that one. Can’t blame Bush, but we could have, had it passed.
    “They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it’s some kind of federal program.” George W. Bush

    “There are those who say the reason the surplus deteriorated so
    quickly is the attacks on America and the war against terrorism.
    Clearly September 11 was a blow to our economy. And to some
    industries, it’s been devastating, especially travel and tourism,
    which is hugely important to my home state. But September 11 and the
    war aren’t the only reasons the surplus is nearly gone. They’re not
    even the biggest reasons. The biggest reason is the tax cut. In May,
    the Congressional Budget Office reported a 10-year budget surplus of
    $5.6 trillion. By the end of the year, $3.7 trillion was gone. Nearly
    half of that was a direct result of the tax cut. The tax cut was by
    far the largest factor.”
    - Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, January 4, 2002
    US SENATE REPUBLICAN POLICY COMMITTEE
    http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1999/ec021202.htm

  • StanInTexas

    The biggest reason is the tax cut. In May,
    the Congressional Budget Office reported a 10-year budget surplus of $5.6 trillion. By the end of the year, $3.7 trillion was gone. Nearly half of that was a direct result of the tax cut. The tax cut was by far the largest factor.”
    - Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, January 4, 2002

    Posted by fiscal_conservative 2010-02-05 09:05:30

    A Democrat that stupidly blames tax cuts for their own failed policies.

    Imagine my surprise.

  • fiscal_conservative

    Stain,
    My point was the 3.7 Trillion in one year, gone…. Do you disagree with that? Do you think we should have put the money in the stock market? 3.7 Trillion wasn’t enough of a loss? That is 3.7 above and beyond the tax revenue that was collected for the year. 3.7, 3.7, 3.7, 3.7, 3.7, 3.7 Trilllllllllllion $!

  • StanInTexas

    Posted by fiscal_conservative 2010-02-05 10:56:00

    You are trying to distract here, FC. First, the ‘surplus’ was a joke and never existed. Second, you specifically posted a quote from the DEMOCRAT Senate Majority Leader who blamed tax cuts for the loss.

    The 3.7 trillion that you are barking about was an accounting trick.

    And BTW, as has been stated before, Bush is no longer President. What has Obama done about the problem? Oh, that’s right… HE’S MADE IT WORSE!!!

  • fiscal_conservative

    This is no defense of the O, but I don’t see where he made it worse, just continued the same failed system. Stain, I made it clear to you a few weeks ago that I think it should all be disolved, or changed. The status quo is not the answer.

  • StanInTexas

    This is no defense of the O, but I don’t see where he made it worse, just continued the same failed system. Stain, I made it clear to you a few weeks ago that I think it should all be disolved, or changed. The status quo is not the answer.
    Posted by fiscal_conservative 2010-02-05 11:16:05

    STAIN????

    Well, well, well, seems one of our trolls has outted himself for the sockpuppet he is. What a shock!

  • fiscal_conservative

    Stain, you lost any respect I might have had for you two weeks ago with your ignorant comments…. Democrats are quoted on this site quite often. Did you have a problem with the information, or just the source? And if you had a problem with the information in the quote, what was not correct? Sometimes you have to look to the other side to get realistic and credible information. No one party holds a monopoly on honesty.

  • StanInTexas

    Posted by fiscal_conservative 2010-02-05 13:02:54

    You are a troll and an idiot. Your respect for me has the same effect on my life as a 1973 calendar does.

    I already pointed out to you the problem I had with the quote. To refresh your memory, it was the abject lie that Tax Cuts destroyed the non-existant surplus.

    Either pay attention or go away… OR BOTH!

  • StanInTexas

    Stain, you lost any respect I might have had for you two weeks ago with your ignorant comments….
    Posted by fiscal_conservative 2010-02-05 13:02:54

    BTW, what a patetic excuse for a nebulous slam. Care to elaborate on which comments you mean, Jack?

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    This is no defense of the O, but I don’t see where he made it worse, just continued the same failed system.
    Posted by fiscal_conservative
    2010-02-05 11:16:05

    Then I recommend that you provide actual evidence for this so-called surplus. That should give us an idea if you really understand the situation.

    Your reference to a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT as “evidence” of a surplus is not helping your case. Has it ever occurred to you that Daschle may be lying?

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Democrats are quoted on this site quite often.

    Yes they are….to expose their lies. Your point?

    Did you have a problem with the information, or just the source?

    Both

    And if you had a problem with the information in the quote, what was not correct?

    There has never been a real surplus.

    Sometimes you have to look to the other side to get realistic and credible information. No one party holds a monopoly on honesty.

    Ah, “the other side.” If that is true then there has to be an independent source to confirm Daschle’s arguments.

    We’re waiting.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Nearly
    half of that was a direct result of the tax cut. The tax cut was by
    far the largest factor.”
    - Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, January 4, 2002

    Daschle, one of the most corrupt Senators ever. WHen you have record revenues and SPEND more, you have a decline.

    Why don’t you post under hogground anymore?

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    Well he can’t post how there’s no social security crisis any more so he needs a new name.

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