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Obama And Holder Sue Sheriff Joe Arpaio
Written By : William Teach

Of course, since the real Sheriff Joe is tough as nails on crime and illegal aliens, he is called “controversial.” Except, there is one problem with why he was sued: it wasn’t for supposed discrimination

The U.S. Department of Justice on Thursday sued a controversial and popular Arizona sheriff, alleging that his department was refusing to cooperate with an investigation into whether it discriminated against Latinos while trying to catch illegal immigrants.

The Justice Department said that Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio was the first local law enforcement official in 30 years to refuse to provide documents in a federal civil rights inquiry. The federal government could withhold $113 million in funding from Maricopa County if Arpaio can’t produce records demonstrating that he avoids racial discrimination.

Lost in all the insinuation about racial discrimination is that he was sued for not cooperating fully with the probe A probe that has been going on for a year and a half, yet has found no actual evidence of racial discrimination, which leads to the second problem, as Byron York points out

Despite the splash of attention from the newest lawsuit, the Justice Department’s investigation of Arpaio could end badly for Holder. When the Department first informed Arpaio that a probe was under way, back in March 2009, it sent a letter saying the investigation would focus on “alleged patterns or practices of discriminatory police practices and unconstitutional searches and seizures.” But now we learn that just six months before that, in September 2008, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, known as ICE, did its own investigation of Arpaio’s office — and gave it a clean bill of health. Arpaio’s lawyers recently got a copy of the ICE report through the Freedom of Information Act.

Byron also points to Arpaio’s great working relationship with the feds, and how the cases Sheriff Joe and his officers brought to court were considered “high quality.” Oh, and that there may be politics involved.

I do have to take issue with one thing about Byron’s column, though. At the end, he writes

Failing to find proof of real discrimination in Maricopa County could ultimately doom the administration’s entire crusade in Arizona. The much-publicized suit against the new immigration law is based on the possibility that it might result in future discrimination, but at the same time the department is struggling to find evidence of civil rights violations in Arpaio’s office, which uses enforcement techniques similar to those outlined in the new law. There’s a real chance that in the end Obama’s war on Arizona will come to nothing.

The problem is, the suit was filed using the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, and not due to potential discrimination. Said potential discrimination may be the reason behind the suit, but, it is not the letter of the suit. That said, Obama and Holder may end up looking bad when the info about Arpaio comes to light, and, if the lawyers for Arizona are doing their job, they would argue that if the Supremacy Clause is so darned important, why are they not suing Sanctuary Cities for failing to follow federal law? Why are they not suing California and 14 other states for failing to follow federal marijuana laws? Why are they not suing California and Rhode Island, which do pretty much exactly what the Arizona law was supposed to do?

And, oh, hey, it looks like Mr. Constitutional professor and his chief DOJ stooge have forgotten that no one may be forced to be a witness against themself.

Crossed at Pirate’s Cove. Follow me on Twitter @WilliamTeach. Re-Change 2010!

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  • abcxyz

    So he has to produce documents to show that they do NOT discriminate? How about someone produce evidence that they DO discriminate? That should end the case unless he is guilty until proven innocent.

    • StanW

      Innocent until proven guilty does not apply to Conservatives or people that truly love this country, ABC.

      Liberals like whats_up and martha bring that up all the time when it is a Mulsim terrorist or a traitor to this nation. Expect a lot of silence from them on this issue.

      • Martha

        Stan. Is that you taking my name in vain? Again.

        I take more exception to the fact that it is stated President Obama is suing Sheriff Arpaio, as if it is a personal action. And secondly, I dislike having to agree with Trench, but he is correct concerning this specific issue.

        • StanW

          Oh, so anything and everything that happened in the Bush Administration was the personal responsibility of George W. Bush. Is Obama responsible for ANYTHING? All he does is take credit and deflect blame.

          Obama is President and this is HIS justice department doing it. Do you think Holder can even change his socks without Obama's approval? Not likely.

          And you have used the innocent until proven guilty line before, Martha. But only when discussing traitor to this nation, never for American citizens.

          • UFKA_Smithwick

            Funny how they think he should get credit for the Iraq war because well he's the C in C dammit!

            But the going ons of his legal department? Meh, he's just the president, doesn't have any real control over that sort of thing.

        • UFKA_Smithwick

          In the Obama administration the buck stops . . . yonder.

          Oh except for victories, he gets full personal credit for those. Defeats are either Bushs fault or when people stop buying that line: some easily disposed of underling.

          • blkdragon

            I still can't get over his use of the royal “WE” when he is taking credit for something. I laugh every time I hear it.

        • mightysamurai

          I take more exception to the fact that it is stated President Obama is suing Sheriff Arpaio, as if it is a personal action.

          It's his Justice Department and his Attorney General.

          Or are you saying Obama is so incompetent he can't even control his own cabinet?

          • Martha

            Oddly – no.

          • mightysamurai

            So this IS his fault. Thank you for conceding the argument.

          • Rose

            SLANDER. Nothing but rank SLANDER.

        • Rose

          It's bloody personal and between Arpaio and Arizona, Odrama Queen has THREE suits going against the, and is already holding thousands and thousands of Arpaio's documents, and Arizonal's documents, just demanding more – scared to go to court, but loving the “free publicity” he thinks works for him.
          That was before he handed Arizona over to a UN human rights commission for doing what all other nations on earth do already, including Mexico.

          Odrama Queen is literally attacking and assaulting Arizona in behalf of Mexico – and this is Treason.

          http://hopenchangecartoons.blogspot.com/

          See Stilton Jarlsberg's comments about Odrama Queen's vicious attacks on Arizona. Friday, Sept. 3, 2010

    • UFKA_Smithwick

      Charges of discrimination today are little different than charges of witchcraft were hundreds of years ago.

      The accusation is proof enough, after which you must prove your innocence or be found guilty. And in reality the only way to prove your innocence is to have the right friends. Otherwise it's simply a show trial used to discredit you and make the prosecutors appear to be heros.

      Oh and it has about as much factual basis as witchcraft did as well. But of course they were far kinder, prefer to kill you quickly with a fire rather than drag you through court for the rest of your life and leave you a social pariah.

      • jharp

        “Charges of discrimination today are little different than charges of witchcraft were hundreds of years ago.”

        You are a fucking moron. Clue. Discrimination exists. Witchcraft does not exist.

        God you people are stupid.

        • UFKA_Smithwick

          Witch/bigot hunters both are absolutely certain that what they pursue exists. And in the abscense of evidence they are perfectly willing to invent some. It's for our own good of course, those people that ferret out such horrors are heros and deserve a little . . . shall we say leniency with the truth?

          No doubt there were people practicing what they considered to be witchcraft at the time, just as there are a few people actually fitting the legal definition of discrimination today. But for every one true believer they found they burned a 1,000 innocent victims along the way.

          No difference really. The self-righteousness, the heated emotions, the bypassing of basic legal protections and simple fairness to get your conviction, playing on peoples fears, demanding the victim condemn him or herself, it's all the same.

        • blkdragon

          “Witchcraft does not exist.”

          Actually “Witchcraft” (Wicca) is an ancient and legitimate religion. I have a couple friends that are practicing witches. (http://www.witchology.com)

          Do try not to be discriminatory. Or stupid, but I'm not holding my breath.

          • Trench_Raider

            Uh no.

            Wicca was invented in the early 20th century by an English housewife. Despite the claims of it's practioners it's NOT an ancient religion. I put it in much the same class as scientology.

            But I admit I'm biased as the vast, vast majority of Wiccans I've met were insuferable anti-Christian bigots with an axe to grind. One lady I recall even went so far as to teach her young daughter to loudly correct anyone who said “my god” in her presence to shout “No you mean GODDESS!”. Talk about setting a kid up for trouble.

            And before anyone makes an accussation, recall that I'm not a Christian, so have no axe to grind here. It's just I don't put much stock or see as very legitimate recently invented religions.

            TR

          • Rose

            Put it where you like – God dealt with witchcraft in Old and New Testaments and one full third of the Miracles Jesus performed related to demon deliverance.

            Manipulation is the most basic and first level of witchcraft.

            Doesn't mean they can do all they claim – but it means they actively seek spiritual powers and alliances not from their Creator. And they know it.

          • blkdragon

            Huh, had never heard that.
            Food for thought, thanks TR.

        • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

          Wow… you're really an idiot aren't you? I mean sub normal intelligence, you really are short-bus slow, based on your posts. I'm sorry people respond to you, and I won't from now on, to avoid poking the moron. Its cruel to you.

        • Wiff O'Grapeshot

          “Witchcraft does not exist.”

          I'm a Wiccan and I resent that remark.

          • Rose

            You will resent Hell so very much more, dearie. You should give Jesus an Honest try with the help of an expert, so you can avoid the pitfalls of making your familiar very angry with you, before an expert can show you how to protect yourself from your current alliances. The Blood of Jesus will help you if you want Him to.

        • Rose

          You Dim Liberals are the proven discriminators.
          Your Marxism is anti-human. Not fit for any human association.

      • blkdragon

        “Charges of discrimination today are little different than charges of witchcraft were hundreds of years ago.”

        Amen.

        I once had a college professor who insisted that all police officers were automatically sexist / racist and ONLY EVER stopped people based on the drivers gender and/or skin color.
        When I countered that on overnights I hardly ever knew the race / gender of a vehicles driver before I approached the window she insisted I was lying. So I challenged her to do a couple ride-alongs with me.
        Long story short after she spent just three hours watching me run traffic stops she agreed that it was impossible to know what the race / gender of a driver was by the time I was able to make a Stop / Don't Stop decision.
        It didn't change her stance in class much, but it was a step.

        • UFKA_Smithwick

          Actually in that case your magical racist powers allowed you to deduce the

          race of the drivers even though you couldn't see them and didn't have any

          sort of indication of their skin color.

          He's a wi. . racist! Burn him!

  • baoxian

    How about suing themselves for not building the border fence? Or refusing to provide Equal Protection to US citizens by selectively enforcing the law? Or for butchering the 10th Amendment?

    Or just quit the half measures and plead guilty to treason for providing aid and comfort to drug cartels and illegals that are robbing, kidnapping, raping, and murdering US citizens.

  • Trench_Raider

    Sheriff Arpaio (that's his correct title. I hate familiar nicknames like “sheriff Joe”. That's why I shake my head when I hear leftists calling the president “Barack”) is something of a grandstander and a self agrandizer. But he is (unlike most on the left) on the right side of the illegal alien issue. He also has a healthy hatred of crime and criminals, which I share. So I tend to support him.

    The Dems in general and the admin specificly are making a huge mistake in doing all this pro-criminal stuff in an election year. The majority of the country supports AZ and the actions of Sheriff Arpaio and thus look at these frivolous “harrassment” lawsuits in a very negative way. It's handing the Republicans yet one more tool to use against them in the election. It's not 100% certain (it never is) but it looks like November is going to be a political bloodletting for the Dems ala 1994.

    So as much as I hate to see these wrong headed actions by the admin, I welcome them. Any student of military history will tell you, that you never interupt your enemy while they are making a mistake!

    TR

  • jharp

    “he was sued for not cooperating fully with the probe …. yet has found no actual evidence of racial discrimination”

    You are an incredible dumbass. He's being sued because he is withholding the documents that most likely contain the evidence. As there would be no other reason to withhold the evidence.

    Are you really that fucking stupid, William? Or is it just you will do anything to defend bigotry and a racism?

  • jharp

    “Innocent until proven guilty does not apply to Conservatives or people that truly love this country, ABC”

    And StanW, the moron, chirps in with more stupidity. He is innocent you fucking retard. He hasn't even been charged with anything.

    God you people are stupid.

  • UFKA_Smithwick

    In the conflict between US citizens and foreigners Obama stands firmly with the foreigners.

    I wonder if he will get a new Nobel prize for standing up to this mean ol' sheriff?

  • jharp

    “Turns out Arizona's “show me your papers” poster boy doesn't like having to produce his. Arpaio has denied investigators access to key documents for over a year and a half.

    In light of the news, here's a little background reading on Sheriff Joe.

    Arpaio's Record: Higher Crime, Wasted Money, Squandered Trust

    America’s Voice Education Fund’s latest report on Sheriff Joe’s record reveals that his high-profile tactics have actually led to higher crime rates, nearly 3,000 lawsuits, millions of wasted taxpayer dollars, and a degradation of the community policing strategies that law enforcement agencies have developed to keep us safe.

    What's more, violent crime is down across the state of Arizona –except in Sheriff Arpaio's Maricopa County. From 2002 to 2009, while the violent crime rate across the state as a whole plummeted by 12 percent, Arpaio's jurisdiction suffered a 58 percent surge in violent crime. The numbers speak for themselves:”

    http://crooksandliars.com/jackie-mahendra/doj-arpaio-show-me-your-papers

    • Trench_Raider

      The idiot moonbat biased site you cut and pasted that from aside, you do realise that lawsuits against law enforcement agencies are far from being evidence of wrong doing, right? Criminals and their families lie. Alot. Thus effective law enforcement agencies and individual LEOs will often be victim of frivolous harrassment lawsuits and complaints. It stems from the criminal menality (often shared by their families…they have to get it somewere after all) that they are actually the victims of injustice and thus are justified in their crimes. Most LEOs regard harrassment lawsuits and citizin complaints as a price they pay for doing their job effectively. High profile folks like Arpaio are of course going to get more lawsuits than others.

      During my 19 year career in corrections I've been the defendant in three lawsuits, two of which actually got tried in federal court. (the third was thrown out before trial as being frivolous…as the others should have) I have testified as a witness in suits against other staffer five times. I of course did nothing wrong and was found innocent. It's just something that comes with the job and in fact I view it as validation that I'm doing a GOOD job.

      Finally, the idea (completely unsupported btw) that agressive law enforcement somehow leads to an increase in violanet crime is absurd.

      TR

      • jharp

        “you do realise that lawsuits against law enforcement agencies are far from being evidence of wrong doing, right?”

        Yes. I am an educated man.

        And the sheriff is being sued to force him to turn over documents. Nothing more.

        Seems like a pretty simple solution would be to furnish the documents.

        And you idiots have some sort of problem with that?

        • StanW

          NONE, except for the fact that he DID turn over the documents requested and the idiots filed suit anyway.

          Do you have a problem with that? Yeah, that's what I thought!

          • whats_up

            No he didnt STan, otherwise there would be no need to sue him now would there. Jesus you are dumb.

          • StanW

            Yes, he did, crthns. Educate yourself before proving to us yet again what a partisan hack you are.

          • Mr. EMT

            Right so obamao is being sued due to the fact he never submitted his BC.
            Love the way your logic works, moron.

          • Rose

            Of course Odrama Queen needs to sue him, and odrama Queen NEEDS NOT to get him in a courtroom under oath.

            How else can he use Arpaio and Arizona for his POLITICAL purposes
            for the Blind, Stupid, useful idiots!

            The most important thing for Odrama Queen and his ilk is having a big important ENEMY to blame all his own failures on. And provide plenty of distraction so his supporters won't figure out how SELF-DESTRUCTIVE they are to themselves by supporting the likes of HIM!!!

            Odrama Queen needs Arpaio desperately on the front pages looking like Odrama Queen has him pinned to the mat. Which he don't no ways have.

            The last thing he needs is Arpaio in the COURTROOM. Showing EVIDENCE to the Judge and the PEOPLE.

            Why do you think all the judges keep dismissing all those military personnel demanding Odrama Queen's documents!!!

            They cannot convict the People without evidence, and they cannot show the EVIDENCE because that convicts Odrama Queen!!!

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OZBTYQK5MN5SKP6FA6KK4TJOQ4 MichaelAlan

          “Seems like a pretty simple solution would be to furnish the documents.”

          You agree then, that Obama should furnish his documents?

          • jharp

            “You agree then, that Obama should furnish his documents?”

            Great. A complete fucking idiot birther. One of the 20% ers.

            God you people are stupid.

          • Mr. EMT

            Great, a complete fucking idiot commie who preaches one thing and does another, just like typical hypocritical leftards.

            You can't even prove obamao has a college degree.

            ZERO college transcripts, No birth certificate.

            Oh except the “real and true authentic copy pictured here by our staffers at factcheck.org who went into the office, obtained the BC and handled it and took pictures with out obtaining a court order since none shall be issued, Oh and it isnt even a Birth Certificate, or his Original but hey don't actually read what the document says, just take our word for it you stupid sheep”

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OZBTYQK5MN5SKP6FA6KK4TJOQ4 MichaelAlan

            Nice assumption, libtard, but wrong. I know you see the connect between the Sheriff Joe's doc hunt and the Obama birth certificate doc hunt and that's the best you can come up with.

            Nice to know you can't walk the talk.

        • Trench_Raider

          Yes. I am an educated man.

          Actually, you are a childish troll getting his jollies by disrupting a site you disagree with politically and harrassing folks and talking smack in a manner in which you would never dream of doing so in person.

          In any event a even better solution would be that the DoJ and the admin stop harrassing people who are doing their job and protecting the country.

          TR

        • Mr. EMT

          Yes. I am an educated man.
          Taking second grade for 6 years in a row is not really considering being educated by us, moron.
          And Joe, and the state of Arizona are being sued due to a massive abuse of power. For now the political wind is in their favor, today. But any other day, when the law is enforced correctly and voters have their fill, like a fart, that wind is going to blow right back in your face and you are going to have to deal with the stench of your own words.

        • Rose

          When your education consists solely of your Marxist training – “educated' isn't what you are.
          You have become a useful idiot deprecating more on yourself than all the world could ever do.

          You are a suicidal useful idiot and fartblossom to Stalin and Karl Marx.

          They were laughing at you before they died, thinking of the plunder of human lives they would drag to Hell as a tribute to their master, Satan.

          But they ain't laughing now – right this minute they are screaming in agony as demons rip through their flesh again and again and again, endlessly for all eternity. They will simply curse you for being stupid enough to follow them to Hell.

    • Rose

      Bald liar.

      Arpaio has already turned over thousands and thousands of documents – while the FEDS STALL for time to play POLITICS with the MEDIA, to bid for time before they are FORCED to dismiss all three lawsuits against Arpaio and Arizona for NO CAUSE!

  • Trench_Raider

    Charming language. But what does one expect from a trolling child trying to look “cool” by spewing profanity on the 'net?

    “Bigotry” “Racism”.

    Yet more meaningless buzzwords and name calling from an idiot who is on the wrong side on an issue.

    TR

  • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

    Spoken like true genius, with the ability to be unable to read SARCASM.

    And you call us stupid!!!! ROFLMAO

    • jharp

      Go have another bucket of gravy, Hog Jowls.

      • Trench_Raider

        Flagged for personjal attacks and trolling.

        YOu would enver say something like that in person, child.

        You expect us to take you seriously, about anything, and then yo behave like this? As Stan likes to say, you are dismissed.

        TR

        • blkdragon

          “You would never say something like that in person.”

          Oh, considering how much jharp reminds me of a college undergrad he probably does. He just relies on the conservatives' adherence to the laws and self control to keep him from being laied flat every other day.

          • jharp

            “You would never say something like that in person.”

            I avoid dumbasses like you in person. And that is no joke.

            Seriously, why would I even consider being in the same room with a bunch of ignorant racist bigots?

          • StanW

            I think you avoid all human contact, Harp. You crow and preen here because you are too much of a coward to actually confront people in real life.

          • Trench_Raider

            Thanks for admitting that you are abusing the anonimity of the 'net to act in a juvenile and churlish manner.

            Hawkins, can we ban this clown, please?

            TR

          • Rose

            No one dragged you HERE.

          • blkdragon

            So you live on what, a couple square miles of the most liberal university on earth? News flash for you numb-skull, all those people around you in class, you know, the ones that don't speak up while you and your professor have your “wonderful” conversations about how backward conservatives are and how all the worlds ills would be solved if more people like you were in power, are probably conservatives that have learned they need to keep their mouths shut to graduate.

  • StanW

    Your tag line is boring, you shoudl get new material.

    • Martha

      I assume you meant this for Karma Hoser.

      • StanW

        Shut up, Martha

  • mightysamurai

    The U.S. Department of Justice on Thursday sued a controversial and popular Arizona sheriff, alleging that his department was refusing to cooperate with an investigation into whether it discriminated against Latinos while trying to catch illegal immigrants.

    What exactly does “discrimination against latinos” even mean in this context?

    Are they accusing him of “discrimination” simply because most or all of the illegal aliens he detains are latino? If so, then I hate to break it to them but most illegal aliens ARE latino. And certainly most illegal aliens in Arizona are latino.

  • whats_up

    It is a real simple concept. Either Conservatives believe in the rule of law or they dont. Sherriff Arpaio's dept either follows the law or they dont. If you are advocation that his dept doesnt have to turn over the documents then you are advocating for breaking the law. Is that what you stand for?

    • Trench_Raider

      Once again we see some idiot leftist (a long term troll and sock puppet this time) pretending to actually care about the rule of law only when he can make a political point by doing so.

      I don't know if I should laugh or vomit.

      TR

      • Mr. EMT

        Vomit on him, then laugh.

        • Trench_Raider

          Heh. Nice.

          Like point added.

          TR

        • Rose

          AAAAAA-MEN!!!!

    • jharp

      “Either Conservatives believe in the rule of law or they dont.”

      Now your just being silly. Everyone knows conservatives could not care less about the rule of law.

      Torture? Warrant less wiretaps? Imprisoning people without charges indefinitely?

      • Mr. EMT

        Torture, that is not torture per surpreme court difinition, wire tapping, with due process, imprisoning WAR CRIMINALS.
        Scuse you, moron. Which president is it that signed off on assassinating United States Citizens with out due process?
        Even the ACLU is suing obamao.

    • StanW

      Here is a part of Sherriff Arpio's response to the Justice Department:
      These people in Washington met with my attorneys only a few days ago. And in that meeting, Washington got our cooperation; they admitted they already have thousands of pages of the requested documents; and they were given access to interview my staff and get into my jails. They smiled in our faces and then stabbed us in the back with this lawsuit. The Obama administration intended to sue us all along, no matter what we did to try to avert it.

      Read it for yourself at http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModule&mn=Special_Announce

      Then makle sure you come back on and apologize for your lies!

    • Mr. EMT

      Fine, lets find out how many American Citizens Joe has wrongfully arrested for being an illegal alien?
      Meantime why dont you actually read the post and point out where it is required for Joe to give evidense against himself if it exists?
      We don't require that against democrats, never have.
      If we did then you would not have a party member holding office as a dog catcher much less as a law maker.

    • Rose

      When John Chisum and Lawrence Murphy battled it out for Lincoln County, New Mexico, Murphy told a cohort how he planned to win: he said, well, John Chisum is a man who respects the Law, and around here, I'm the man that OWNS the Law.

      Lawrence Murphy was like Odrama Queen today – a CROOKED MAN wo BOUGHT the “LAW” – he was NOT a “just and Constitutional administrator of Law”.

      Saying that Arpaio doesn't obey ODRAMA QUEEN is exactly like saying that England didn't obey Hitler.

      There is no difference.

      Odrama Queen is crooked as they come, degenerate, and unConstitutional in every way imaginable.

      We do not owe him allegiance, TO THE DEGREE THAT HE GIVES NO ALLEGIANCE TO OUR CONSTITUTION.
      And THAT is ZERO!

      One Marine's bumper Sticker: It's “WE THE PEOPLE” Not “ME THE PRESIDENT”
      ———————————————————

      When Oklahoma passed 1804, there were many suits filed to prevent it being implemented.

      The the U.S. District Judge dismissed the case, saying (in part):
      These illegal alien Plaintiffs seek nothing more than to use this Court as a vehicle for their continued unlawful presence in this country. To allow these Plaintiffs to do so would make this Court an 'abetter of iniquity' and this Court finds that simply unpalatable.”

      Perhaps the courts in AZ can take a similar path, citing this case as a precedent.
      *********************************************

      Frederick Douglass: Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they have resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress.

      “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object, evidence a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government…” – Declaration of Independence

      Ayn Rand: When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion — when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing — when you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors — when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed.

  • The Karma Hoser

    Harpie, your cussing like 6th grader trying to sound older is a clear sign of your immaturity and insecurity. If you're really so sure of your stance, then how come you rant and hissyfit like a toddler with a soiled diaper?

    I myself enjoy seeing the democrats parading their true colors and agenda so close to the election because the result will be an even bigger rejection of Obama and his minions at the polls in just over a month! Your idols' time will end very soon!

    WE are the RIGHT, and WE SHALL OVERCOMEE! :D

  • jharp

    Obama should at the same time investigate Governor Brewer for being a blithering idiot.

    And there is a mountain of evidence against her.

  • jharp

    “Witch/bigot hunters both are absolutely certain that what they pursue exists.”

    Again you fucking idiot. Bigots exist. Witches don't.

    God you people are stupid.

  • UFKA_Smithwick

    And no doubt you are here to save us all from them, no matter how many

    innocent people need to suffer to accomplish that goal.

  • StanW

    Check with the Wiccans and then come back, Harp.

    • Mr. EMT

      Wiccans are crazy >They would say, “We are not witches, but we know people who are witches.”

  • Trench_Raider

    And in like 95%+ of the cases were some leftist fool is making the accusation racism/bigotry/discrimination/whatever does not exist either. It's a game with you people. You name call and use emotionally loaded buzz words to shut down debate and silence opponents like a good little Trotskyite.

    You people make me sick.

    TR

  • Mr. EMT

    There is a mountain of evidence that you are a commie sympathiser, a traitor and do not give a shit about the constitution (other than how you can misinterpret it) and an all around jackassed douchebag.
    However, we don't need to look any up, you make it obvious with every post, Fart.

  • Mr. EMT

    Breaking News on Fox News TV at 15:45

    Sherriff Joe Arpaio's lawyers obtained documents from the goverment Via the Freedom of Information Act showing he has cooperated with the government in its investigation.
    Expect the case to be dropped like a hot coal by a retard holding it.
    Yes, only after second or third degree burns.

    Im looking for a weblink to the story.

    • Rose

      AAAAA-MEN!!!

      • Rose

        Wondering if the site work is finished…

        http://oneoldvet.com/?p=22559

        ICE Cleared Arpaio Before Obama/Holder Attack

        New evidence undermines feds’ case against Arizona
        By: Byron York
        Chief Political Correspondent

        You’ve heard a lot about the Justice Department’s lawsuit to stop the new Arizona immigration law. But that’s just one part of the Obama administration’s multi-front war on immigration enforcement in Arizona.

        September 3, 2010 • Posted in: Immigration & Border Security

    • Rose

      http://oneoldvet.com/?p=22559

      ICE Cleared Arpaio Before Obama/Holder Attack

      New evidence undermines feds’ case against Arizona
      By: Byron York
      Chief Political Correspondent

      You’ve heard a lot about the Justice Department’s lawsuit to stop the new Arizona immigration law. But that’s just one part of the Obama administration’s multi-front war on immigration enforcement in Arizona.

      September 3, 2010 • Posted in: Immigration & Border Security

  • mightysamurai

    So now your advocating investigations of people simply for disagreeing with Barack Obama?

    How fascist can you get?

    • jharp

      Yeah right. That's what I meant.

      That it should be against the law to be an idiot.

      Good God you people are stupid.

      • StanW

        If it were against the law to be an idiot, you would be living in a jail cell instead of your parents basement.

      • mightysamurai

        Yeah right. That's what I meant.

        I know, I heard you the first time. Hence the accusation of fascism.

      • Rose

        And there you are not only idiotic, but suicidally idiotic on the fast track to Hell. With a great big Marxist fartblossom tattooed on yer face.

  • Rose

    Hell is getting hotter for Odrama Queen and S_____p Holder.
    Life on this earth is short – but a vapor, then it is gone.

    Then comes Eternity.

  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    From what I've seen, Sheriff Arpaio does discriminate: he discriminates against criminals. And good for him.

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