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5 Takeaway Lessons From Rush Limbaugh Being Denied NFL Ownership
Written By : John Hawkins

Rush Limbaugh, who is the single most popular mainstream political host in America, was denied an opportunity to invest tens of millions of dollars in the steaming pile of horseflop that is the St. Louis Rams. There are a number of lessons that can be taken away from that debacle. They include the following:

1) Liberals are so obsessive about their politics that it perverts and warps every other human impulse in their life. It’s why they try to turn every famous liberal funeral into a political rally, it’s why they have no qualms about spreading lies about their political opponents, and it’s even why so many liberals are atheists. There is simply no room for both God and liberalism in the life of many people on the Left. To people like that, the idea that one of their political enemies should even be allowed to own part of a crummy football team is too much to endure.

2) The racist double standard is alive and well: How bizarre is it that parasitic human ticks like Jesse “Hymietown” Jackson and Al “Tawana Brawley” Sharpton are still treated like their opinions should matter on race? These guys are as bad as the KKK in their own way — and at least everyone treats the Ku Klux Klan like a bad joke. Meanwhile, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are just as race obsessed, but they’re treated seriously and are making a comfortable living off of it.

Yet, if Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, or any of the other race hustlers in America who like to exploit the issue for their own gain were to want to buy into the NFL, do you think it would be controversial? Welcome to Barack Obama’s “post-racial” America where racial con-artists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are respectable, but merely being a famous conservative makes you too much of a “racist” to own part of a football team.

3) In the eyes of the NFL, the worst thing you can apparently do is be a conservative: Rush Limbaugh is apparently too controversial for the NFL. Who isn’t? Keith Olbermann, who virulently hates all things conservative, dog abuser, Michael Vick, and serial woman beater Lawrence Phillips. Heck, if Rae Carruth got out of jail tomorrow for conspiring to kill his girlfriend, you can almost be certain that some NFL team would take a chance on him. But, a conservative who’s willing to drop tens of millions of dollars to invest in a lousy NFL team during a recession? No way! That’s “too controversial.”

4) The mainstream media puts ideology above facts when conservatives are involved: If you ever wanted proof — well, even more proof — that the mainstream media was biased against conservatives, all you need to do was look at the transparently phony collection of racist quotes that were passed around about Rush Limbaugh.

The same mainstream media that fact checks comedy skits about Barack Obama on Saturday Night Live didn’t seem to be able to find the time to check out quotations that were dreamed up from scratch about Rush Limbaugh. With Democrats, everything gets triple checked for accuracy and reluctantly printed in the middle of a long article on page A-18 if it’s damaging. With conservatives, “Oh, we saw it on the internet, so it must be true and if it’s not, we don’t like Rush Limbaugh anyway,” was good enough to get a phony quote on CNN.

5) Conservatives are too forgiving: If you listened to the Left you’d think that conservatives were violent, easily inflamed mobs of fienish KKK/Nazi/Taliban hybrids. Meanwhile, no one seems to be the least bit scared of offending conservatives in any way, shape, or form.

The mainstream media treats conservatives like something they scraped off the bottom of their shoe, Hollywood stars who desperately need conservatives to watch their movies openly mock our values, and Keith Olbermann can co-host Football Night In America while Rush Limbaugh is being told he can’t even invest in the NFL. It’s doesn’t matter what people SAY about conservatives, the way we get treated tells you that we’re not commanding any respect.

So, here’s a thought: Maybe conservatives should actually start raising a lot more hell about issues like this one. When Hollywood, the NFL, and the mainstream media conclude that conservatives aren’t suckers who will still hand them money even as they’re insulted, maybe the insults will stop.

Let me conclude by saying that Rush Limbaugh can take the heat and at the end of the day, all this means is that he’s going to be able to spend huge sums of money on something other than a NFL team. Moreover, there’s nothing unusual about corporations steering clear of political controversy. That’s something that everyone in this profession just has to accept.

Yet and still, it’s the double standard here that grates. No matter what the situation may be, it always seems like there is one set of rules for conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and a much more lenient, convenient set of rules for liberals. If conservatives do nothing else in the next few years – well, besides taking back Congress and defeating Barack Obama — we should insist on an end to that double standard.

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  • Jack Schite

    This is liberals fault and not a result of Tush's philosophy?

    Poor, poor conservatives. So, so misunderstood and never taking the blame.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    So here’s a thought: Maybe conservatives should actually start raising a lot more hell about issues like this one. When Hollywood, the NFL, and the mainstream media conclude that conservatives aren’t suckers who will still hand them money even as they’re insulted, maybe the insults will stop.

    I've been saying and practising this for a long time now. I don't patronise Hollydrool, and frankly they make it easy for me to do so by producing great steaming heaps of mule fritters for films. Teevee, or as it used to be appropriately known, the idiot lantern, for me has been largely reduced to an exercise in recording what I want to see on the DVR and then zapping through the adverts. Bottom line for me is that unless there's absolutely no other alternative, I just don't support what the liberal schlockmeisters who would take my money and use it to produce works which malign people like me.

  • NorthernCanuck

    Posted by Jack Schite

    It is indeed about his philosophy, that's the whole point.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by Jack Schite

    2009-10-16 09:18:17

    Weak. Nixon has seen better from Hogground and Wino.

  • Mike_M

    "When Hollywood, the NFL, and the mainstream media conclude that conservatives aren’t suckers who will still hand them money even as they’re insulted, maybe the insults will stop."

    Hasn't done much for the attitudes of the papers and network news shows. Instead they just feel entitled to reach into our pockets of bailout money.

    Hell, GE (the owner of NBC, MSNBC, CNBC) just got Obama to sell out two of our allies for a sit-down with Putin. Drawing logical conclusions isn't part of their though process. They hate us all the more and expect to be subsidized for it.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    This is liberals fault and not a result of Tush's philosophy?

    He is being barred from investing is money as he sees fit because of his philosophy, because the NFL is afraid of what Liberals in power might do. The situation ought to scare the pants off of any American, whatever his political leanings.

  • whats_up

    He is being barred from investing is money as he sees fit because of his philosophy, because the NFL is afraid of what Liberals in power might do. The situation ought to scare the pants off of any American, whatever his political leanings.

    Posted by CavalierX

    2009-10-16 09:55:51

    Well Cav, thats how it works in America, your philosophy is part of who you are, and there are enough people in America who dont like Rush that this will happen. You act like Rush has a right to own part of a team. Get over it, actions have consequences that is how things work.

  • D-Vega

    Man, this story has legs. What a surprise. Who woulda thought the victim-game would start? Shocker.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    actions have consequences

    What should the consequences be for those who have used quotes attributed to Rush that have been proven false in this argument? And yes, several of those quotes have been proven false, go to the other thread yesterday and look at where the debunking began.

  • Mike_M

    "Man, this story has legs."

    Yeah, we know how upset you liberals get when the targets of your smears don't shut up and disappear like they're supposed to.

  • whats_up

    What should the consequences be for those who have used quotes attributed to Rush that have been proven false in this argument? And yes, several of those quotes have been proven false, go to the other thread yesterday and look at where the debunking began.

    Posted by Dick_Nixon

    2009-10-16 10:23:37

    I am sure those consequences are being pointed out right now. I am sure that you have accused those who made them of lying and being dishonest. However that doesnt change the fact that Limbaugh doesnt have a right to own a team and the NFL, the Players even fans have every right to protest his inclusion, the other potential owners have every right to decide not to include him. Really we shouldnt have to be explaining this to you.

  • TheBaud

    Get over it, actions have consequences that is how things work.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 10:11:09

    My, how your story changes when it is someone you hate on the receiving end of a smear, whats_up.

    I am not the one claiming that he is lying, until you can prove otherwise I will believe he is telling the truth, fortuantly we live in a country that belives that people are telling the truth until someone, anyone can PROVE that said person is lying. Until you can do that Panetta will be believed by most of the country.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-07-09 16:07:01

    What a hypocrite you are… AGAIN!

  • whats_up

    Yeah, we know how upset you liberals get when the targets of your smears don't shut up and disappear like they're supposed to.

    Posted by Mike_M

    2009-10-16 10:27:00

    Mike,

    This wasnt a result of smear, many people dont like Rush, for whatever reason and have a right to protest him trying to buy an NFL team. That is how america works my friend, you should know this allready.

  • http://www.reddirtdude.blogspot.com President_Friedman

    Sometimes you pay a price for where you stand. I don't have a problem with that, but it should at least make sense. Atheists aren't allowed to be Boy Scout Troop Leaders. The Dixie Chicks are never going to be invited to perform at CPAC. Excepting for Willie Nelson concerts, hippies and rednecks will never be able to amicably breathe the same air. While I may think these are all stupid rules, I do understand the social mechanisms behind them.

    What I don't understand is the social mechanism that would allow Mike Vick to play in the NFL, but prevent Rush from being a team owner (admittedly, I am only the most minor kind of fan of both Rush and the NFL). If I was going to make a guess, I'd guess most NFL team owners are line with Limbaugh's political beliefs, if not his penchant for controversy. When even Keith Olbermann and Chris Mathews are pooh-poohing on this decision, you know something stinks in Denmark.

  • whats_up

    What a hypocrite you are… AGAIN!

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 10:34:58

    Baud,

    I am not a hypocrite in this situation, I have never claimed that Rush should not be allowed to buy a team because of something that he said. What you fail to understand is that many people dont like Rush for whatever reason and they have a right as well to protest his buying part of a team. Other owners in the NFL have a right to decide who owns one of the teams, and for whatever reason they dont want Rush, and that is how the system works. Rush is no victim hear, remember actions have consequences. Rush uses a medium to espouse his political viewpoints, there are going to be those that dont like him because of it, and they have that right.

  • D-Vega

    We know how upset you get when you are on the business end of a smear.

    Poor Rush. His ratings will go up and he can milk victimhood for all its worth.

  • TheBaud

    Rush is no victim hear, remember actions have consequences. Rush uses a medium to espouse his political viewpoints, there are going to be those that dont like him because of it, and they have that right.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 10:38:32

    First, you are a hypocrite because you claim people on the Left should be beleived unless there is proof, yet here you and D-Vega are calling Rush a racists based upon proven lies.

    Second, it is disengenuous in the highest for a Liberal to be telling people that actions have consequences. Does it for a pregnant teenager that wants an abortion after a few nights of wild sex? Does it for people that make bad decisions and get themselves ina jam financially?

    Your double-standard is astounding and your lectures to us on these rules are like fingernails on a chalkboard.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    This wasnt a result of smear, many people dont like Rush, for whatever reason and have a right to protest him trying to buy an NFL team. That is how america works my friend, you should know this allready.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 10:36:06

    What you're saying is that you have the right to protest by using lies to achieve your objective.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    actions have consequences that is how things work.

    How come Liberals only say that about Conservatives? I notice Charlie Rangel the tax cheat is still in charge of the committe that writes the tax code, while Tim "TurboTax" Geithner the tax cheat is still in charge of the Treasury of the United States. Why do their actions have no consequences?

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Poor Rush. His ratings will go up and he can milk victimhood for all its worth.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 10:41:38

    Poor Vega, Rush's ratings will skyrocket and Vega will remain an anonymous nobody.

  • TheBaud

    What you're saying is that you have the right to protest by using lies to achieve your objective.

    Posted by Kingfisher 2009-10-16 10:42:50

    And yet they get soooooo worked-up by the birther controversy.

    Curious!

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    What I don't understand is the social mechanism that would allow Mike Vick to play in the NFL, but prevent Rush from being a team owner

    Yeah, I guess if Rush would just go out and torture some dogs to death he'd be allowed to join the club.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Get over it, actions have consequences that is how things work.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 10:11:09

    Unless you're a liberal.

    Interesting how you intentionally ignore the issue of whether the claims against Limbaugh are the truth or lies.

  • D-Vega

    No, Cav. Its easier to find a multimillionaire than it is to find a quarterback.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Yeah, I guess if Rush would just go out and torture some dogs to death he'd be allowed to join the club.

    Posted by CavalierX

    2009-10-16 10:44:56

    Or beat up his girlfriend.

  • TheBaud

    No, Cav. Its easier to find a multimillionaire than it is to find a quarterback.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-10-16 10:46:06

    You actually believe the lies by these spoiled multi-millionaire players that they would quit rather than play for a Limbaugh team?

    You truly are an infant, D-Vega!

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    What you fail to understand is that many people dont like Rush for whatever reason and they have a right as well to protest his buying part of a team.

    This is going to be whats_up's argument-of-the-day.

    Of course people can protest. DUH! No shit, Sherlock. We've known that all this time, it seems that you're finally catching up to this "First Amendment" concept.

    The real issue is that liberals used lies to prevent Limbaugh from buying part ownership of the S.L. Rams and you're going to stay away from that issue.

  • Mike_M

    "This wasnt a result of smear, many people dont like Rush, for whatever reason and have a right to protest him trying to buy an NFL team."

    So why did the media have to resort to complete fabrications and lies in attacking Rush when he made the bid?

    For once Rush was doing something non-political, and the liberals went absolutely ballistic trying to find a way to use it as an avenue of attack against him.

    What did they do? When all else fails cry racism and go back to the Alinsky playbook.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    No, Cav. Its easier to find a multimillionaire than it is to find a quarterback.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-10-16 10:46:06

    Really? I bet you can find top-rated quarterbacks in any one of the existing college teams.

    Vega, still stuck on stupid.

  • D-Vega

    Interesting how you intentionally ignore the issue of whether the claims against Limbaugh are the truth or lies.

    The claims against Limbaugh are many, not just because of controversial racist/non-racist statements.

    The Commissioner said he was "divisive", Dave Checketts said he was "a complication, a distraction".

    Let's look at the claims:

    "I, myself, couldn't even consider voting for him," (Colts owner Jim) Irsay said at an owners meetings. "When there are comments that have been made that are inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive … our words do damage, and it's something that we don't need."

    Goodell repeatedly distanced the league from Limbaugh's statements on Tuesday, calling them "polarizing comments that we don't think reflect accurately on the NFL or our players."

    "I have said many times before that we are all held to a higher standard here," the commissioner said. "I think divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about. I would not want to see those kind of comments from people who are in a responsible position within the NFL. No. Absolutely not."

    Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank echoed Goodell's comments and noted that the league and the union had a similar stance. Blank also said he wouldn't expect Limbaugh, if the deal went through, to tone down his lucrative radio show to avoid running afoul of the league. "I find that highly unlikely," he said.

    Prospective owners must be approved by 24 of the league's 32 teams. Irsay is the first owner who has stated unequivocally he would reject Limbaugh because he made a habit of "demonizing individuals."

    "I met Rush only once. He seemed like a nice guy to me and all those kind of things," Irsay said. "It's bigger than the NFL. As a nation, and as a world, we've got to watch our words and our thoughts. They can do damage."

    - All ESPN.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    I don't like Keith Olbermann but I would defend him if lies were uttered to have him thrown out of his job as an NFL commentator. Political differences are one thing, integrity is another. Too bad integrity is a foreign concept to a liberal.

  • D-Vega

    Really? I bet you can find top-rated quarterbacks in any one of the existing college teams.

    Really? Then call the Raiders. Top-rated QBs? Is that why Mark Sanchez got $50 million from the Jets?

  • http://Good_Ol_Boy Good_Ol_Boy

    Now I fully admit that I may be giving Mr. Limbaugh a bit too much Machiavellian credit on this, but perhaps, just maybe, this was the outcome he actually wanted.

    It serves Mr. Limbaugh much better to have been publically snubbed by the NFL, not to mention slandered by the leftist MSM, than it would have to have been allowed to acquire the Rams at a substanial cost to his personal wealth. In essense he set them up, knowing that they'd never let him buy the team and that the moonbat media would rabidly smear him, just to prove his point.

    If this was, in fact, the case… I have to sincerely applaud the man's shrewdness.

  • whats_up

    Interesting how you intentionally ignore the issue of whether the claims against Limbaugh are the truth or lies.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-10-16 10:45:37

    I dont care, I dont want him owning the Rams, I dont like the guy, and to be quite frank I dont need a reason not to like him. Get over it King, people dont want Rush to be an owner, end of story. In America people get to make those choices and I know how that grates on your conservative viewpoint.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    - All ESPN.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 10:53:53

    All are opinions. What you're saying is that people should be denied business deals because of opinions.

    Once again, Vega throws the First Amendment under the bus when it doesn't serve his own needs but hides behind it when it suits him. Selfishness, thy name is liberal.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Unfortunately for our liberal friends here, the arguments against Rush owning the team in a limited partner way, were all based not on his conservative positions, but on racist statements that Rush never made. The hypocrisy on the left is no longer astounding, it is to be expected. Rush has a right to free speech about his political views. However, he also has a right not to be convicted in the court of public opinion by false statements. No one here on the left has condemned Jesse Jackson using a statement never uttered by Rush against Rush. Not one of you so called "progressives" have condemned this public lynching of a man based on words he never said.

    Liberals, hypocrites in action.

  • whats_up

    I don't like Keith Olbermann but I would defend him if lies were uttered to have him thrown out of his job as an NFL commentator. Political differences are one thing, integrity is another. Too bad integrity is a foreign concept to a liberal.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-10-16 10:54:50

    You are full of crap King, you would jump on the bandwagon against Olbermann. Integrity is lacking in many political circles, liberal and conservative.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    I dont care, I dont want him owning the Rams, I dont like the guy, and to be quite frank I dont need a reason not to like him. Get over it King, people dont want Rush to be an owner, end of story. In America people get to make those choices and I know how that grates on your conservative viewpoint.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 10:56:49

    You didn't answer the question so I'll assume that you accept false accusations against those who don't share your political views.

    You constantly whine like a baby when people on this site say things about you that you don't like but you won't do the same for others.

    "And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." Luke 6:31

  • whats_up

    All are opinions. What you're saying is that people should be denied business deals because of opinions.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-10-16 10:56:50

    King,

    Do you inhabit the real world? People are denied business deals, jobs and many other things based on people opinions all the time, this gets funnier and funnier. Go on play the victim card some more, tell us how bad it is for conservatives, whine a little more.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    You are full of crap King, you would jump on the bandwagon against Olbermann. Integrity is lacking in many political circles, liberal and conservative.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 10:58:25

    Really? Then show me the quote where I said I would do this. Otherwise, you're lying AGAIN.

    Go fuck yourself, liar.

  • RWNReader2

    Rush was NOT buying an NFL team. He was to be a minority (i.e. non-control) investor in a group making a bid. He was already in. Yet pressure from a smear campaign concocted from fabricated quotes forced the bidder to drop him. In other words, his money was not as green as other people's. That's discrimination.

    If the group he was to be a part of turns out to be the successful bidder, on terms substantially similar to the terms that were in place at the time the bid was originally made (and Rush was in), Limbaugh will have a slam duck case for tortuous interference. The NFL, MSNBC, CNN, Huffington Post, and all the rest will be sued and they WILL LOSE. For this reason, I think the Checkers bid is already toast, becuase the NFL can't risk giving Limbaugh a clear cut case.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    Do you inhabit the real world? People are denied business deals, jobs and many other things based on people opinions all the time, this gets funnier and funnier. Go on play the victim card some more, tell us how bad it is for conservatives, whine a little more.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 11:00:06

    Looks like the truth is bothering you. Good, liars like you hate the truth.

    Who are you going to smear next time to achieve your objective? Perhaps, hopefully, it will happen to you, then you'll whine.

  • TheBaud

    I dont like the guy, and to be quite frank I dont need a reason not to like him. Get over it King, people dont want Rush to be an owner, end of story. In America people get to make those choices and I know how that grates on your conservative viewpoint.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 10:56:49

    So then to whats_up; the lies, the distortions, the lynching of Limbaugh is perfectly OK with him, because he doen't like the guy.

    Quite a departure from your "…fortuantly we live in a country that belives that people are telling the truth until someone, anyone can PROVE that said person is lying." standard when it is a Liberal on the receiving end.

    No, you're not a hypocrite, whats_up. Not at all. And that was pure, unadultrated sarcasm there!

  • Mike_M

    "What you're saying is that people should be denied business deals because of opinions."

    Yes and no, king. The NFL owners have every right to decide who buys into their leauge, just like radio station owners had every right to take the Dixie Chicks off the air.

    But why did the owners quash Rush's bid? Rush is the most vocal critic of Washington DC there is, and the NFL depends on it's anti-trust exemption to keep the gravy train rolling. The last thing they want is somebody like Rush rocking the boat and practically begging Congress to open hearings on that exemption.

    That's the real reason this went down the way it did.

  • RWNReader2

    If Limbaugh were black and liberal, we'd all be talking about how racism is such a problem in the NFL owners, the Democratic congress would be holding hearings, dragging the owners in for grilling, talking about revoking anti-trust exemptions, the President would be giving another speech about himself and his white grandmother, and the people who spread these lies about him would already be hanging from the trees.

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:01:40

    Poor little Baud, play the victim card a little more.

  • D-Vega

    All are opinions. What you're saying is that people should be denied business deals because of opinions.

    Uh, Kingfisher. Its the opinion of the other owners. You do know that they are the ones who decide who gets to own a team?

    And people are denied business deals because of opinions all the time. Stop the nonsense.

    Once again, Vega throws the First Amendment under the bus when it doesn't serve his own needs but hides behind it when it suits him. Selfishness, thy name is liberal.

    Now we have RightWing-Pathetic-Excuse-Playbook ploy #241 – Say its unConstitutional.

    Limbaugh's freedom of expression has not been infringed by one molecule.

    He doesn't have any right to join a professional sports league.

    You guys don't really think some fabricated quotes on CNN did him in, do you? This is Rush Friggin Limbaugh, people. Everyone knows who this guys is. He is a very controversial political figure in this country. For maybe, I don't know, the past 15 years at least? 25 years?

    The NFL doesn't need, and doesn't want, that kind of heat. There are many rightleaning and leftleaning owners, but they would never garner the attention that Limbaugh does.

    Its to his credit. He is an amazing success. But because of that same success he cannot be an NFL owner.

  • TheBaud

    Poor little Baud, play the victim card a little more.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 11:09:42

    Thank you for your admission, whats_up. Now run away, you racist hypocrite!

  • whats_up

    Perhaps, hopefully, it will happen to you, then you'll whine.

    Posted by Kingfisher

    2009-10-16 11:01:28

    It has been happening since Obama took office, liberals get smeared by conservatives all the time. Liberals are un-american (according to conservatives), liberals are against success (according to conservatives). Come down off your high horse King, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • TheBaud

    Liberals are un-american (according to conservatives), liberals are against success (according to conservatives). Come down off your high horse King, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 11:11:33

    And we are all STILL waiting for you to provide any evidence to substantiate your claim, whats_up. That fact that you keep saying this, yet refuse to prove it, speaks volumes!

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    Rush has reaped what he has sown. He makes controversial statements. He is a lighting rod. He wants to be a lightning rod. He's tremendous at it, and that is why he is so successful. Like it or not, NFL owners are an exclusive club. They set the rules as to who can join, and no person has a "right" to become an owner of a football team.

    I trust that all of you who have your panties in a bunch over this also feel that the Augusta Golf Club should change their policies to allow women, right?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Liberals are un-american (according to conservatives),

    Nixon agrees. Most liberals are in favor of actions that are against the best interests of the US.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    He makes controversial statements.

    Yet the statements he supposedly made that are the cornerstone in this argument, most if not all were never said by Rush.

  • http://www.reddirtdude.blogspot.com President_Friedman

    Posted by Good_Ol_Boy

    2009-10-16 10:56:18

    I suspect you have hit the nail on the head, my friend.

    After the McNabb debacle, I'd bet Rush gets more enjoyment seeing the NFL show its ass on the national stage like this than he would get from actually being part owner on the Rams.

  • TheBaud

    I trust that all of you who have your panties in a bunch over this also feel that the Augusta Golf Club should change their policies to allow women, right?

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 11:14:22

    Stillwaiting on your insightful analysis on why Rush Limbaugh is any different that Jerry Jones.

    And that was a pathetic attempt to deflect this argument. No one here has even suggested that the owners change ANYTHING, except for idiot Liberals. The ONLY thing we decry here is that Rush has been denied because of the lies of the Left and you and the rest of the peanut gallery are giddy about your ability to slander a Conservative and get away with it.

  • Mike_M

    "liberals are against success (according to conservatives)"

    Really? When every other sentence out of every Democrat's mouth is "tax the rich!"

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:14:21

    The fact that you refuse to see what is going on around you speaks volumes about you my friend. But we allready knew that you were biased, but I love you playing the game of sticking your head in the sand.

  • whats_up

    And that was a pathetic attempt to deflect this argument. No one here has even suggested that the owners change ANYTHING, except for idiot Liberals. The ONLY thing we decry here is that Rush has been denied because of the lies of the Left and you and the rest of the peanut gallery are giddy about your ability to slander a Conservative and get away with it.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:19:11

    Do you need a tissue, boo hoo poor Baud, grow a pair child, grow a pair.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 11:19:59

    This is a consistant theme with you. When you have been cornered by your own lies, hypocrisy, and stupidity; you totally ignore the message and go right for the personal insults.

    STILL waiting on you to provide any proof of your claims here, whats_up… "Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 11:11:33".

    Either man-up or SHUT-UP!

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:19:11

    Slander? What slander? I haven't said one untrue thing about Rush. Are you telling me that he is not a lighting rod? That he does not say things because he knows that he will get a reaction? That he says things in a specific way to get the most reaction?

    And that's the difference between Jerry Jones and Rush Limbaugh.

  • TheBaud

    And that's the difference between Jerry Jones and Rush Limbaugh.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 11:25:06

    I'm confused, Tom_pinko_Delay. Is it that you are unable, or unwilling, to answer my question?

  • http://Good_Ol_Boy Good_Ol_Boy

    Posted by President_Friedman

    2009-10-16 11:17:57

    Exactly! This situation has turned out to be a win for Mr. Limbaugh on several levels.

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    I'm confused, Tom_pinko_Delay.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:27:31

    Yes, I know you are.

  • Raposa

    When you get down to it, if the NFL had said, "You know, we just don't like Rush, so we're not going to cut him in on the deal," there would have been some complaints, but in the end, we'd have to shrug and say that it's their decision.

    It's the fact that people lied about Rush and the media joined in, without bothering to do any real authentication first, that makes this a big deal. Business deals fall apart all the time. Major news networks do not promote smears about just anybody.

    Like Dan Rather, they'll go to their graves chanting "fake but accurate".

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:24:25

    Look around my friend, specifically to Nixons post earlier in the thread. Conservatives have been disparaging liberals since they had the courage to question the war in Iraq. Its not our fault that you never come out of your mothers basement. Try it sometime, you will be surprised at how nice the real world looks. Your mom will appreciate the time away from you as well.

  • RWNReader2

    Like it or not, NFL owners are an exclusive club. They set the rules as to who can join, and no person has a "right" to become an owner of a football team.

    No, clubs are clubs – non-profit organizations. The NFL is a business. And if Dave Checkers is permitted to be an owner, but Rush is denied the opportunity to be an investor in Checkers' group, the NFL will be sued and Rush WILL WIN.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 11:33:17

    Very funny, whats_up. You think you are being clever and mature in your little-girl insults. But what the adults here on this board see if you running away from a direct request and your abject cowardise in being able to abswer questions put to you.

    In other words, you are simply another "little bitch", as D-Vega puts it. So sad for you.

  • whats_up

    Posted by RWNReader2

    2009-10-16 11:35:55

    No he wont, Rush dropped his bid to be part of a minority owner group, end of story.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    specifically to Nixons post earlier in the thread.

    Was Nixon's statement true or false. You don't like the truth. That is why you no longer poster under the crthns user name. You were busted numerous time under that name. Is Nixon's statement true or false? Go on the record. Be a man for once in your life.

  • D-Vega

    Yet the statements he supposedly made that are the cornerstone in this argument, most if not all were never said by Rush.

    Those false statements you are referring to are NOT the cornerstone of the argument, Nixon.

  • TheBaud

    Yes, I know you are.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 11:31:08

    WOW, a consistant theme with Liberals today. Crow and shout about how you defeated Limbaugh, and blow off any question asked of you.

    Rush is right about one thing, this is Obama's America. A place where Liberals can be their true racists and hypocritical self. I just hope you all realize that your team will not be in power forever. I know many of you have said that the Right is dead and will never return. I am happy to say that I will enjoy the surprised looks on your faces when you are once again in the minority.

  • D-Vega

    The NFL is a business. And if Dave Checkers is permitted to be an owner, but Rush is denied the opportunity to be an investor in Checkers' group, the NFL will be sued and Rush WILL WIN.

    No, they won't.

  • TheBaud

    Rush dropped his bid to be part of a minority owner group, end of story.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 11:37:48

    Rush did not drop his bid, he was removed from the group. It was not his choice.

    Another in the long list of whats_up lies!

  • RWNReader2

    "You know, we just don't like Rush, so we're not going to cut him in on the deal,"

    If they had said that, Rush would already have a default judgement.

    I'm really suprised at the ignorance so many of you seem to have on the legal implications of what's going on here. You cannot choose who you do business with based on who you like or don't like. That's called discrimination. There was a huge movement in the 60s because an entire class of people were routinely denied the opportunity to perform transactions with all sorts of businesses because the people who owned those businesses didn't 'like' them. Similarly, when you set out to raise money to start a business, you cannot deny someone the opportunity to invest once you have specifically solicited their investment without a reason other than "I don't like you." Trust me people, this is what I do.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Rush dropped his bid

    Did he? Nixon would love to see that link please.

  • whats_up

    I am happy to say that I will enjoy the surprised looks on your faces when you are once again in the minority.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:40:33

    There is no doubt we will be in the minority again, that is how politics works, Conservatives seemed to have forgotten that when they had the majority.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Those false statements you are referring to are NOT the cornerstone of the argument, Nixon.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 11:39:27

    Yes, they are. Which statements are you referring to? The Assassin of Dr King, the slavery statment, which one? They have been de bunked. Or the true statement about McNabb, which I am not going to re argue again. You lost it.

  • TheBaud

    Trust me people, this is what I do.

    Posted by RWNReader2 2009-10-16 11:42:46

    The part you are missing here, RWNReader2, was contained in whats_up's post above. He doesn't like Limbaugh and he doesn't want him to own an NFL franchise. Therefore, anything and everything doen to stop it is perfectly fine with him. And this is the same attitude most Liberals have. Just like the will tell you that black people cannot be racist (all evidence to the contrary), they also beleive that Conservatives cannot be discriminated against. After all, they deserve it.

  • D-Vega

    So now Rush Limbaugh being denied to own an NFL team is a kin to civil rights discrimination in the 60s.

    You have to understand that right-wing-radio reality does not exist in the real world.

    In the real world, if partners want to cut you out of a deal because it would mean the deal would more likely go through, then you are out of the deal. Happens all the time.

    The NFL cares about money first. And Rush has lots of money, but not THAT much money.

    Liberals are NFL fans, too.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    It has been happening since Obama took office, liberals get smeared by conservatives all the time.

    Like where?

    Liberals are un-american (according to conservatives),

    Lie #1. We've been asking that you provide evidence for the past few months and you have refused to do so.

    liberals are against success (according to conservatives).

    Liberals want to punish those who are successful. Well, those who are successful who don't tow the party line.

    Come down off your high horse King, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 11:11:33

    Cry little baby, cry. You play the victim card very well.

    grow a pair child, grow a pair.

    Obviously, you still don't have yours.

  • D-Vega

    You cannot choose who you do business with based on who you like or don't like.

    Yes, you can.

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    <blockquote and blow off any question asked of you

    Well when the questions are particularly obtuse, I would thing that they deserve to be blown off. But for the sake of discussion, on the off chance that you REALLY can't differentiate between Jerry Jones and Rush Limbaugh, let me help you:

    One has a popular political radio show that quite often stirs people's passions (on both sides of the aisle).

    The other one doesn't.

  • D-Vega

    Don't worry, guys. There's always Arena Football.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    I've got to agree with GOB and PF to the extent that this whole fiasco is nothing but "ratings gold" for Mr. Limbaugh. It's not as though he isn't already making a good return on his investments, and it's not as though there aren't other opportunities for Mr. Limbaugh to invest in other money-making schemes. But whatever the case, Mr. Limbaugh has gained enough additional notoriety to take him through a whole ratings year coasting. Were I him, I'd be saying a grateful prayer of thanks for the all free publicity this fiasco has provided him. Not even Georgie Soros could afford to buy all the air-time and column-inches which have been dedicated to this foolishness.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 11:49:10

    It is not about football. It is about destroying someone's reputation with lies and made up statements. WHich is ok to your side of the aisle.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    No he wont, Rush dropped his bid to be part of a minority owner group, end of story.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 11:37:48

    You don't even know what's going on in this situation. Limbaugh didn't withdraw, he was removed.

    Do try to keep up, little crybaby.

  • TheBaud

    The other one doesn't.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 11:48:45

    Yes, and one is named Jones and the other is named Limbaugh. VOILA, a difference.

    What I asked you is how the outlandish comments and actions of Jerry Jones are any different that Limabugh's, Tom_pinko_Delay.

    But you already knew that and are simply being childish. Fine, your idiocy is noted.

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:53:14

    Baud,

    If you are too stupid to see the difference no amount of explaining is going to help you.

  • TheBaud

    If you are too stupid to see the difference no amount of explaining is going to help you.

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 11:55:56

    You have already ignored my questions to you, whats_up. Please allow Tom_pinko_Delay to ignore his own questions.

    BTW, any comment on your deliberate lie about Limbaugh dropping out of the bid?

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    What I asked you is how the outlandish comments and actions of Jerry Jones are any different that Limabugh's, Tom_pinko_Delay.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 11:53:14

    Because the outlandish comments of one of them are of a political nature, and the other one's aren't.

    Any other screamingly obvious differences you'd like to point out?

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    …er, you'd like me to point out?

  • TheBaud

    Any other screamingly obvious differences you'd like to point out?

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 12:02:22

    Was it worth all the childish answers and running away, Tom_pinko_Delay? It was a simple question.

    You made the statement that Limbaugh was too outspoken to be an owner and would cause the NFL problems. I asked how he is different in that respect from Jerry Jones.

    The correct answer (which I'm sure you know, but are too much of a coward to actually say) is that Limbaugh would only be a minority owner with no day-to-day say in the team, while Jerry Jones is just as outrageous, but is the principle owner with vastly superior power to continue to embarrass the NFL.

    Thanks for playing.

  • RWNReader2

    So now Rush Limbaugh being denied to own an NFL team is a kin to civil rights discrimination in the 60s.

    No, suggesting that anyone can decide who they do business with based on who they like or don't like (as Raposa suggested) IS kin to the civil rights movement.

    In the real world, if partners want to cut you out of a deal because it would mean the deal would more likely go through, then you are out of the deal. Happens all the time.

    Not without a buyout! Otherwise, when you cut someone out there will be hell to pay. There are other ways to do it, increase the capital call, change the terms to add a poisin pill, etc., but there is no evidence that any of that occured.

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    Jerry Jones is just as outrageous, TheBaud? Really? Please provide me some quotes from Jerry Jones that are "just as outrageous" as Rush's.

  • D-Vega

    It is about destroying someone's reputation with lies and made up statements

    No one destroyed anyone's reputation with lies.

    Limbaugh's reputation is today what it was a month ago.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    I love how the Liberals are defending the idea that it's okay refuse to do business with someone because you disagree with their personal opinions or politics. I have to wonder how they'd react if Louis Farrakan tried to buy into a team, and the NFL refused to let him because they didn't like his Nation of Islam politics. Or if Rush were gay, and they blocked him because they didn't like his sexual preferences. Only Conservatives can be openly discriminated against in Liberalworld.

  • RWNReader2

    Limbaugh: "Your honor, I wanted to be a part of the NFL. Everyone knows that I love it, and have wanted it for a long time. So when I realized that the Rams, my hometown team, might be for sale, I started to inquire about putting together a bid. Someone told me 'call Dave Checkers, he's putting together a bid' so I did. Dave invited me in, and we struck a deal to put together a joint bid where he would be the majority owner. But then after the bid was already in, and I could no longer compete with him, he dumped me."

    Judge: "That's bad faith tortuous interference. The court finds in your favor."

  • TheBaud

    Jerry Jones is just as outrageous, TheBaud? Really? Please provide me some quotes from Jerry Jones that are "just as outrageous" as Rush's.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 12:11:28

    Which quotes are we going to compare against, Tom_pinko_Delay? The actual quotes from Rush, or the made-up lies used against him here?

    I need a basis for comparision.

  • whats_up

    Which quotes are we going to compare against, Tom_pinko_Delay? The actual quotes from Rush, or the made-up lies used against him here?

    I need a basis for comparision.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 12:15:52

    Until you provide the outrageous quotes that Jerry Jones made we cant have a comparison.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 12:19:00

    You are not a part of this conversation, little girl. And you will not be a part of anything here until you either prove Limbaugh dropped out of the bidding or admit your lie.

  • whats_up

    Only Conservatives can be openly discriminated against in Liberalworld.

    Posted by CavalierX

    2009-10-16 12:13:37

    You are so full of crap Cav, it was just yesterday that an interracial couple was denied a marriage license by a justice of the peace in Louisiana, but only conservatives can be openly discriminated against, please.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    it was just yesterday that an interracial couple was denied a marriage license by a justice of the peace in Louisiana, but only conservatives can be openly discriminated against, please.

    Posted by whats_up

    2009-10-16 12:20:43

    How do you know this couple was liberal in outlook? Or that the JP was a conservative? Oh yeah, another stereotype from the left, you f'nhypocrite

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    We'll stick with real quotes, The Baud.

    Now, if you would be so kind as to outrage me with some of Jerry Jones's finest.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    No one destroyed anyone's reputation with lies.

    Now you are being dishonest, and I really go out of my way to be civil to you on this website.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Limbaugh's reputation is today what it was a month ago.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 12:12:21

    based on the same lies.

  • RWNReader2

    It really is amazing that liberals just don't care that Limbaugh is in fact a legitimate victim in this case. Has it occured to any of you that Limbaugh likely lost REAL money here? You don't get to the bidding phase until you've already struck a deal with your investors. That means that they all have some real skin in the game in the form of legal fees and a whole host of other things, to say nothing of their personal time. My guess is that Limbaugh has some of the most expensive lawyers in the world, and his REAL cost here is AT LEAST $50k here – probably north of $100k. That might not be much for Rush, but it's REAL money – this aint some silly game we're talking about, this is real.

  • http://www.reddirtdude.blogspot.com President_Friedman

    "No, suggesting that anyone can decide who they do business with based on who they like or don't like (as Raposa suggested) IS kin to the civil rights movement."

    Not at all. The civil rights movement said you can't refuse to do busines with somebody because of their race or gender (things beyond their control). If you don't like them for their political views, you don't have to do business with them.

    That's not to say Limbaugh doesn't have a case. He might. Depends entirely on the structure of the agreement between him and Checkers. But if the argument is that the NFL has to do business with Rush Limbaugh even if they don't like him personally, you are on the losing end of that argument.

    People get passed up for business opportunities every single day because of their personalities, even when they have a better product or service or benefit to offer. That's why businesses hire salespeople.

  • TheBaud

    Now, if you would be so kind as to outrage me with some of Jerry Jones's finest.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 12:23:59

    I doubt I could outrage you at all, Tom_pinko_Delay, unless I was speaking ill of Obama or another of your Liberal icons. But the few I can think of a few off the top of my head would include Jones's fine for violating the Commissioners gag order on a pending labor dispute, or his statements (a la Mark Cuban) criticizing an official for a call.

    He outraged people with his comments about Jimmy Johnson after the Cowboy's Super Bowl win in 93.

    But for an actual quote, how's this… "But if you look at teams that want to share more revenues, they're teams that don't have a lot on the table. They've long since not had any serious investment in their team." A direct and outrageuos slam on other owners.

    Now, your turn for some Limbaugh statements. Oh, and please, make them things Limbaugh has actually said.

  • http://www.reddirtdude.blogspot.com President_Friedman

    Posted by RWNReader2

    2009-10-16 12:32:03

    Well, if his lawyers were worth thier salt they would have written something saying he would get his investment back if he was dropped from the partnership for reasons beyond his control.

    Look, I'm on Limbaugh's side here, but I seriously doubt there is anything worthy of a lawsuit going on. Breach of contract, perhaps, at most… but nothing based on him being discriminated against for his outspoken political views. Sometimes people need to just suck it up and admit that they are going to pay a price for where they stand. Being willing to pay that price is part of what having integrity is all about. When you start demanding that people be include you in thier reindeer games, you have become a liberal.

  • RWNReader2

    Posted by President_Friedman

    2009-10-16 12:39:00

    So it's okay to discriminate against people based on their level of income, sexual preference, marital status…???

    "but, but, but, but, but!!!!"

    yeah, that's what I thought. You're just plain wrong. Regardless of what you (or I) want to believe, the law as practiced dictates that discrimination must be disproved. In other words, you have to have a SPECIFIC reason, and it can't be anywere CLOSE to "I just didn't like him because he's _____."

    But if the argument is that the NFL has to do business with Rush Limbaugh even if they don't like him personally, you are on the losing end of that argument.

    Not if they ultimately accept Checkers' bid. If they don't, Limbaugh's case is significantly less. That's why I said up front that I think Checkers is toast for even talking to Limbaugh.

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    Really, TheBaud? That's your outrageous quote? A slam on other owners? So that's one that offended about 15 people.

    I'll serve you game, set and match with this one from Rush:

    "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

  • RWNReader2

    Well, if his lawyers were worth thier salt they would have written something saying he would get his investment back if he was dropped from the partnership for reasons beyond his control.

    Oh, if they're worth their salt, there's a lot more than that. In fact, they probably specifically anticipated this outcome. So if Rush goes quietly into the night, it's probably because he had a juicy buyout. If not, this could get real interesting.

  • whats_up

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 12:43:29

    HAHAHA, those were your outrageous quotes? Thats it? I guess you really are too stupid to understand the difference. That made my day I havent had such a good laugh since Bush left office, classic!!

  • D-Vega

    You guys always have given Rush Limbaugh waaaay too much credit.

    He had an entertainment franchise deal in the making that fell through because in entertainment, controversy can either make you or break you.

    It made him in terms of right-wing radio, but doomed him in terms of football team ownership.

    He doesn't have a case for a lawsuit. He doesn't even have a case for playing the victim as much as he is. He, and conservatives, are being crybabies over the whole thing.

  • TheBaud

    I'll serve you game, set and match with this one from Rush:

    "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 12:54:17

    First, I beleive that was one of the quotes that has been falsly attributed to Limbaugh. You do have a link, don't you?

    Second, had I known that you would be the final arbitor of what is and is not outrageous (and remember, we were talking in the area of an NFL owner), I would not have bothered. Jerry Jones could have said anything about anybody, and you and whats_up would have said, "Oh, that's nothing. Limbaugh said blah, blah, blah.".

    All was well with the group as far as Limbaugh and the partners were concerned. Then the lies started, panty-waste Liberals started whining, and Limbaugh was dropped.

    Pretty clear bias!

  • TheBaud

    That made my day I havent had such a good laugh since Bush left office, classic!!

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 12:58:46

    Got that proof that Limbaugh was the one who dropped out yet, Whats_Up?

    Yeah, I didn't think so. You lie has been noted.

  • D-Vega

    All was well with the group as far as Limbaugh and the partners were concerned.

    Who cares? All was NOT well with the current owners and players. Too bad.

    Then the lies started, panty-waste Liberals started whining, and Limbaugh was dropped.

    You must mean the word got out that THE right-wing radio personality in America was going to be a partner to buy a team, and the owners and players said "I don't think so."

  • whats_up

    You must mean the word got out that THE right-wing radio personality in America was going to be a partner to buy a team, and the owners and players said "I don't think so."

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 13:58:18

    Vega,

    Baud fails to understand that there are other people in America besides Conservatives and that they have viewpoints as well.

  • TheBaud

    and the owners and players said "I don't think so."

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-10-16 13:58:18

    Not sure about any but two of the owners, D-Vega. It would have been nice to actually have a vote and see. And the players? They are hired help and millionaires. As I heard on ESPN a few nights ago, by an NFL Player (sorry, can't recall his name), any player that says they won't play on a team owned by Rush Limbaugh is a "damned liar!".

    And yes, you are that naive!

  • TheBaud

    Posted by whats_up 2009-10-16 14:02:46

    Proof, little bitch?

  • D-Vega

    That wasn't a player, that was an ESPN commentator.

    It would have been "nice" to see a vote, but the league is under no obligation to do that.

    AND, the players are not "hired help". They are minority partners in the NFL as a league because they share in the revenue per the CBA. To say they are just hired help grossly underestimates the power of the players union.

  • D-Vega

    And just to clarify myself, the players who actually commented on Rush didn't say "He shouldn't be allowed to own a team". They basically said he could do whatever he wants with his money, but I am not playing for him.

  • whats_up

    First, I beleive that was one of the quotes that has been falsly attributed to Limbaugh. You do have a link, don't you?

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 13:53:29

    Actually its not, Limbaugh admitted that he made that statement in a 1990 Newsweek article.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.as

  • TheBaud

    AND, the players are not "hired help". They are minority partners in the NFL as a league because they share in the revenue per the CBA. To say they are just hired help grossly underestimates the power of the players union.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-10-16 14:05:32

    Paid to play = hired help.

    And they are not owners. Yes, the union has a lot of power, but it is grossly naive to say that there are players who will forego multi-million dollar contracts to play football because Limbaugh is the minority owner of a team.

  • BIG

    George Soros is also part of the syndicate that is trying to buy the Rams. Why don't the media and everybody else have a problem with an admitted Nazi collaborator like they do with a patriotic conservative American? Why is it OK with them to have a man that pointed out Jews to Nazis so they could be rounded up and murdered owning part of a NFL team?

    Please explain to me why Limbaugh is persona no grata and George Soros is peechy keen with you? And please be honest for once. It is OK to say that it was only Jews that Soros helped murder and they really don't count.

  • D-Vega

    They wouldn't forego the millions, they would just get the millions from another team.

    If the Limbaugh Legion paid them more then they would play for the highest bidder, just like for anyone else.

    What I said was that the players, such as Justin Tuck, who commented said they wouldn't play for Rushbo, not that he shouldn't be allowed to own a team.

    But overall you are correct, the players follow the money and the opportunity for fame. They couldn't care less about the owner's politics.

    This was a Damage Control move by the league.

  • D-Vega

    You would first have to illustrate that Soros pointed out Jews for murdering, BIG. And I mean illustrate well, as that is a pretty serious charge.

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    I'll serve you game, set and match with this one from Rush:

    "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

    Wow, breaking news from 1970, when Rush was doing an insult-comic radio routine. That's really your "game, set and match?" I almost feel sorry for you.

  • D-Vega

    So you're saying that Rush did say that, Cav? And you consider that funny? Or just acceptable in terms of being an insult-comic?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    If black comedians are allowed to use the N word without censorship or condemantion, then Rush's 40 year old comment should bear no weight in this discussion.

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    Second, had I known that you would be the final arbitor of what is and is not outrageous (and remember, we were talking in the area of an NFL owner), I would not have bothered. Jerry Jones could have said anything about anybody, and you and whats_up would have said, "Oh, that's nothing. Limbaugh said blah, blah, blah.".

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 13:53:29

    It's not that I'm the final arbiter of relative outrageousness, TheBaud, its just that your first example sucks.

    But give me another outrageous quote, and we'll put your theory to the test.

  • D-Vega

    Right-wing-Pathetic-Excuse-Playbook ploy #451 -

    If anyone, anywhere, does it, then we can do it and are above criticism.

  • RWNReader2

    I guess our liberal friends would have no problem if the NFL kicked Glenn Beck out of a bidding group because he's to "divisive" and too much of a "lightening rod." No problem, the NFL can do what they choose, right?

    How about Sean Hannity?

    How about Don Imus?

    How about RWNReader2?

  • http://guardian.blogdrive.com/ CavalierX

    So you're saying that Rush did say that, Cav?

    Of course. Rush said he said it.

    And you consider that funny? Or just acceptable in terms of being an insult-comic?

    Not particularly. Do I have to personally find it funny to understand that it was part of a comedy skit? I don't like SNL, either… or Letterman, or about 90% of so-called "comedians." But unlike Liberals, I do not seek to impose my personal tastes on the world. Of course, the fact that he stopped doing that routine some 40 years ago means too few people found it entertaining, so he moved on to something else. If he was a Liberal, perhaps he would have gotten a government grant to continue working on his "art" instead.

  • BIG

    You would first have to illustrate that Soros pointed out Jews for murdering, BIG. And I mean illustrate well, as that is a pretty serious charge.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 14:33:39

    He only admitted it on 60 Minutes. You know, the CBS show.

    On December 20, 1998, there appeared this exchange between Soros and Steve Kroft on “60 Minutes”:

    Kroft: “You’re a Hungarian Jew …”

    Soros: “Mm-hmm.”

    Kroft: “… who escaped the Holocaust …”

    Soros: “Mm-hmm.”

    Kroft: “… by posing as a Christian.”

    Soros: “Right.”

    Kroft: “And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.”

    Soros: “Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.”

    Kroft: “In what way?”

    Soros: “That one should think ahead. One should understand that—and anticipate events and when, when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a—a very personal threat of evil.”

    Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.”

    Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.”

    Kroft: “I mean, that’s—that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”

    Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was—it created no—no problem at all.”

    Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?”

    Soros: “No.”

    Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?”

    Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was—well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets—that is I weren’t there—of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would—would—would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the—whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the—I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.”

  • RWNReader2

    Posted by BIG

    2009-10-16 15:17:59

    Hadn't heard that. What a dispicable human being. And he'll be a minority NFL owner soon.

  • TheBaud

    But give me another outrageous quote, and we'll put your theory to the test.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 15:02:42

    Well, since your quote by Limbaugh doesn't strike me as particularly outrageous, what would be the point. I know you you love to make people jump through hoops, just to wave them off. I gave you three examples of Jones being an outrageuos owner and you responded with one Limbaugh quote.

    Seems like the ball is in your court, Tom_pinko_Delay.

  • TheBaud

    How about RWNReader2?

    Posted by RWNReader2 2009-10-16 15:17:35

    Better than that, RWNReader2. Someone recently pointed out that this situation would be different if it were Louis Farrakhan being denied NFL ownership instead of Limbaugh? What is it were Nancy Pelosi, or that gay Miss America judge? What would be the reaction by the three stooges here (D-Vega, whats_up, and Tom_pinko_Delay) if those people were thrown aside due to their opinions or politics or lifestyle choices? What would happen if a group of players said they would never play for a team that was even partially owned by a gay or a woman?

    George Orwell was right as far as Liberals are concerned… All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

  • D-Vega

    That's was horrible behavior by Soros, BIG.

    If anyone were to have issues with him being an owner, either because of his Nazi ties, or because of his liberal politics, I would take the same stand. No one has a guaranteed right to own a sports team.

    Also, Soros was 14 at the time. Hardly old enough to be treated as adult behavior. That was a unique circumstance. But still despicable behavior.

  • BIG

    Hadn't heard that. What a dispicable human being. And he'll be a minority NFL owner soon.

    Posted by RWNReader2

    2009-10-16 15:32:02

    What I think is even worse than allowing George Soros in light of the Limbaugh denial minority ownership is his ownership of the DNC. I could care less if he is an owner in the NFL, but it troubles me greatly that a man of such low character is the owner of the Democratic Party. But Vega and his ilk don't have a problem with this. But if George Soros ever said that he loved America, he would be ostricized by the faithful in a heartbeat.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    In keeping with the exposure of Mr. Soros "controversial" past and as has been pointed out in other places on the 'net, there are several other minority owners involved with an NFL team who are quite controversial in their own right.

    Fergie from the music biz is a minority owner of the Miami Dolphins. If you've listened to lyrics that she's covered both with the Black-Eyed Peas and on her own, it's clear that she's no stranger to racial themes, sexual content and political controversies.

    Another minority owner of the Dolphins is Serena Williams who just recently got herself ejected from the US Open after exploding into an obscenity-laced tirade at an Asian line judge.

    Yet another minority owner of the Dolphins is Jennifer Lopez. She co-wrote, recorded and performs the track I'm Real in which the following is said:

    “And the game done chose me to bring pain to niggas and pussy ho's, they one in the same.” and "I tell them niggas, mind their biz, but they don't hear me though"

    But we all understand that the NFL doesn't want controversy or racial divisiveness associated with any of their owners.

    /sarc

    By the way , does the word 'pretextual' mean anything at all to those of you who're busting Mr. Limbaugh's chops so hard?

    What a freakin' tempest in a teapot this whole topic is. I see that the threads of yesterday and today on the topic here at RWN have generated close to 250 comments while a number of other far more important and relevant topics have gone with comment counts of less than 20, many less than 10.

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    I gave you three examples of Jones being an outrageuos owner and you responded with one Limbaugh quote.

    Seems like the ball is in your court, Tom_pinko_Delay.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 15:48:06

    Actually, you only gave me 1 quote. The rest were hazy memories that you had where you didn't specifically tell me what Jones actually said: But the few I can think of a few off the top of my head would include Jones's fine for violating the Commissioners gag order on a pending labor dispute, or his statements (a la Mark Cuban) criticizing an official for a call. He outraged people with his comments about Jimmy Johnson after the Cowboy's Super Bowl win in 93.

    Since we are comparing outrageous quotes from the 2 men, actual quotes from them would kind of come in handy here.

  • D-Vega

    Sorry, martin. Like I said, this story has legs.

    The right is milking this by playing victim when Limbaugh wasn't victimized. He is a controversial figure. No one gives a damn about what Fergie or J-Lo says in a song. We are talking about one of the, if not THE, most influential partisan voices in modern times. Please let me know if anyone non-elected has ever had so much reach and influence in our generation.

    Very controversial. Not a horrific act 70 years ago. Not a slur in a song. Not an athlete cursing at an official.

    I know the right would love to have an apples to apples comparison, but there is none. As I said earlier, no one can match his success, and here he has become the victim of his success. Not of the media. Not of the union. Not of liberals. Not of Washington. But of his own success.

  • D-Vega

    Since we are comparing outrageous quotes from the 2 men, actual quotes from them would kind of come in handy here.

    Are you implying the same strict standards don't apply to anyone but Rush Limbaugh, Pinko? You are dangerously close to blasphemy.

  • TheBaud

    Since we are comparing outrageous quotes from the 2 men, actual quotes from them would kind of come in handy here.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 16:18:20

    I gave you a quote from Jones that was outrageous and demaning to the bulk of the league and you blew it off. That in many ways surpassed the one quote you gave me from Limbaugh.

    Sorry, you'll have to do better.

  • RWNReader2

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 16:21:22

    So it's okay because he's successful. What about Glenn Beck? What about Sean Hannity? Would it be okay with you if THEY were denied the opportunity for the same reason as Rush? What about the less sucessful but equally "controversial" right-leaning radio host in your local town? What about me Vega? I hold opinions and beliefs pretty similar to Limbaugh. What if I were a minority investor in a group making a bid, and it got out that I had posted right-wing opinions here at RWN? Would it be okay with you if I were kicked out? Where do YOU draw the line? How popular do I have to be to deserve what I get?

  • D-Vega

    You are not Rush Limbaugh, Reader. Neither is Beck.

    It's not his views, its his prominence.

  • RWNReader2

    So you would have a problem with it if it were done to Glen Beck, or me, but not Rush?

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    I gave you a quote from Jones that was outrageous and demaning to the bulk of the league and you blew it off.

    Sorry, you'll have to do better.

    Posted by TheBaud

    2009-10-16 16:30:48

    Jones outraged the bulk of the league, which is hundreds of people. Limbaugh's comment outraged thousands of people (if not tens or hundreds of thousands). The fact that you think Jone's comment is more outrageous is ludicrous. Also, so what if Jones pisses off other owners? Even if he does, it won't affect the overall amount of dollars that the league is bringing in. A lighting rod like Rush does have the potential to negatively effect cash flow.

    And even your claim of "the bulk of the league" is a little specious. I'd settle for "some of the league." But you are choosing to not see reason, so feel free to leave your head up your ass.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

    Vega, all due respect but the issue is a tempest in a teapot. We've got much more important things to worry about than who owns part of a professional sports franchise. On a scale of 1 to 10, it's a solid '1'.

    I'm not a big fan of Mr. Limbaugh, but this whole story has been a pretextual excuse to bash him.

    Oh, and I'd think it a fair wager that Ms. Lopez' audience is probably larger than Mr. Limbaugh's. You might not care what she says/does, but at least some of the 305MM other people in the country might. And I'd also wager that the teevee audience which watched Ms. Williams' meltdown at the open was as large as any Limbaugh audience.

    I still stand by my sarcastic statement – Sure, the NFL is so controversy-averse that they couldn't handle having money from Mr. Limbaugh. Right.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    It's not his views, its his prominence.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 16:42:42

    But you support Obama even though Obama is prominent.

    What you're saying is that Limbaugh is more prominent than Obama. That would have to mean that Limbaugh is liked far more than Obama.

  • BIG

    I could care less if Limbaugh can buy an NFL team or not. I am just commenting on the double standard of it all. Soros also has a conviction for insider trading in France which we call a felony. Yet you don't hear any cries about a convicted felon trying to buy part of a team. And as far as controversial positions go, I would put Soros just as far to the left as Limbaugh is to the right. Yet not word about Soros belonging to the same group trying to buy the Rams???

    So Vega, you have no problem with an admitted Nazi collaborator, convicted felon, and noted Socialist buying part of an NFL franchise but do have a problem with a doctor shopping conservative?

  • TheBaud

    And even your claim of "the bulk of the league" is a little specious. I'd settle for "some of the league." But you are choosing to not see reason, so feel free to leave your head up your ass.

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 16:50:11

    Screw you and everyone that looks like you, Tom_pinko_Delay.

    We were discussing Rush as an owner and that he is no more outrageous tham Jerry Jones. First you appointed yourself to decide whether what Jones said or did was actually outrageous. Now you want to parse numbers? Typical of a Liberal to want to change the game in the middle. Pathetic, but typical.

    And for your information, a lighting rod may be exactly what St. Louis needs. Did you ever think that maybe having Rush as a minority owner might bring in a bunch of people that would never have gone to a game, just to see what the fuss is about or because (as Liberals tell us often) Rush's audience are all mind-number robots and will do whatever he tells them?

    No, you never bother to consider that. In your world, only two things matter. 1, you hate Rush Limbaugh and all he stands for and 2, a few whiney people should trump anything and everything else.

    You are the one obviously blind to all but your miniscule view of the situation. Enjoy your tunnel vision.

  • RWNReader2

    Apparently according to Vega, Rush just got too uppity, so he deserved the beat down he got. It's okay for Glen Beck and the rest of us to carry on our lives as conservatives, as long as we know our place.

  • D-Vega

    Vega, all due respect but the issue is a tempest in a teapot. We've got much more important things to worry about than who owns part of a professional sports franchise. On a scale of 1 to 10, it's a solid '1'.

    I agree, martin. This story is over. I don't know why the right keeps it going.

    Oh, that's right. In order to play the victim.

    I'm not a big fan of Mr. Limbaugh, but this whole story has been a pretextual excuse to bash him.

    Nothing wrong with that. He is a political personality. If getting bashed is a problem for him, he would have gotten out years ago. He relishes this stuff. He can cite the usual knee-jerk imaginary suspects, and benefit in ratings, popularity and MONEY.

    Oh, and I'd think it a fair wager that Ms. Lopez' audience is probably larger than Mr. Limbaugh's. You might not care what she says/does, but at least some of the 305MM other people in the country might. And I'd also wager that the teevee audience which watched Ms. Williams' meltdown at the open was as large as any Limbaugh audience.

    That is arguable and not really relavent, as they are not monoliths of partisan rhetoric.

    Looks at how the right comes to his defense. When has the right-wing base ever, ever, ever said any, any, anything that he has ever, ever, ever said been wrong? Or out of line? Or over the top? NEVER.

    That is the same reason why he was rejected. He is a symbol of the right-wing base in this country. George Soros is a liberal-investing billionaire, but there is no single symbol of liberalism in this country, save maybe for the President, cause he's President. Even so, liberals disagree with Obama constantly.

    No right-wingers ever publicly disagree with Limbaugh. If he/she does, he/she would be apologizing the next day. Because Limbaugh has his finger on the pulse of the base. That makes him too controversial for an entertainment franchise.

    I still stand by my sarcastic statement – Sure, the NFL is so controversy-averse that they couldn't handle having money from Mr. Limbaugh. Right.

    Not controversy-averse. Political controversy-of-the-most-basest-averse.

  • D-Vega

    But you support Obama even though Obama is prominent. What you're saying is that Limbaugh is more prominent than Obama. That would have to mean that Limbaugh is liked far more than Obama.

    Try to go back and rewrite this so it at least makes enough sense to address, King.

  • D-Vega

    Apparently according to Vega, Rush just got too uppity, so he deserved the beat down he got. It's okay for Glen Beck and the rest of us to carry on our lives as conservatives, as long as we know our place.

    That's right, Reader. Post anything more and you will hear a kock on your door within 10 minutes.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-10-16 17:12:59

    That is a lot of deep-seeded hate for Limbaugh you have there, D-Vega. It is no wonder you are willing to excuse anyone from the Left for their actions, but direct your vitrol to Limbaugh.

    You have some serious issues.

  • D-Vega

    heh. Of course I meant "knock".

  • D-Vega

    So Vega, you have no problem with an admitted Nazi collaborator, convicted felon, and noted Socialist buying part of an NFL franchise but do have a problem with a doctor shopping conservative?

    To be perfectly honest, I don't really have a problem with Limbaugh owning a team either. I don't like Soros or Limbaugh, but I am sure there are NFL owners that are complete a-holes that we don't even know about.

    What I do have a problem with is the way the right is milking this as being a "white, conservative" thing, or a victim thing, or a media thing, or a Democrat thing, or being a crybaby when its not that big of a deal either way.

  • D-Vega

    You have some serious issues.

    This from a person who non-stop bitches in almost every post.

    What I said was true. I don't hate Limbaugh. Its amazing that instead of attempting to refute what I said, you knee-jerk to calling me a hater.

    Typical wingnut.

  • D-Vega

    Have a good wknd, guys. Gonna watch the Yanks beat up the Angels tonight and then the Giants beat up on the Saints on Sunday.

    Enjoy.

  • TheBaud

    What I do have a problem with is the way the right is milking this as being a "white, conservative" thing, or a victim thing, or a media thing, or a Democrat thing, or being a crybaby when its not that big of a deal either way.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-10-16 17:21:59

    Except for the unmistakable fact that this WOULD be a big deal to you all the Liberals on this board if it was a black, or a gay, or if a Liberal had been blasted out of a deal like that for nothing more than their political opinion.

    He was not voted out by the owners, he was not removed by his so-called partners due to financial or committment concerns. Liberals spread lies about him, a few thin-skinned people whined about it, and everyone caved. So now Rush is being denied his dream of owning a pro football team for specious reasons that would be a huge deal to you specifically, so long as it was anyone but Limbaugh.

    It's not about being a victim, D-Vega, so you can stop with that lie. It is all about the hypocrisy of the Left and how you relish it.

  • Tom_pinko_Delay

    And for your information, a lighting rod may be exactly what St. Louis needs. Did you ever think that maybe having Rush as a minority owner might bring in a bunch of people that would never have gone to a game, just to see what the fuss is about or because (as Liberals tell us often) Rush's audience are all mind-number robots and will do whatever he tells them?

    A bump in attendance due to a minority owner? Pass whatever it is you are smoking over to me, Baud, it's happy hour!

  • TheBaud

    A bump in attendance due to a minority owner? Pass whatever it is you are smoking over to me, Baud, it's happy hour!

    Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay 2009-10-16 17:28:08

    Rush can't be a minority owner because of all the players that will leave the league and the huge amount of discontent he will cause, AS A MINIORITY OWNER???

    But the mere mention that having his name on the ownership might have a position effect is unthinkable?

    That is amazing!

  • TheBaud

    This from a person who non-stop bitches in almost every post.

    Posted by D-Vega 2009-10-16 17:23:57

    TRANSLATION: "TheBaud keeps pointing out the lies and tell and showing everybody what a coward I am. He's a meanie! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….."

  • BIG

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 17:21:59

    I'm just commenting on the double standard being applied here. If this was the first instance of it, it can easiliy be dismissed. But there is a strong pattern here and it is in the way the media presents it. Soros's ownership should be as odorous as Limbaughs, but not a word is spoken against the owner of the Democratic Party. The LATimes sues to have the divorce record of Jack Ryan released and sinks his candidacy against Obama for the Senate, but holds in its very own hands a tape of Obama at a PLO fundraiser where he is shown laughing at Jew jokes. In a fair world, all these things get reported. But in our present world, it is only the conservatives that get exposed.

    Why do you think this is happening in our country? Soros's admission has been around for over a decade and broadcast on national TV and you question it. Yet you have no problem with people making up stuff to sink Limbaugh? If Limbaugh actually said what Sharpton claims he said, where are the soundbites? No, this is just a case where you can sink someone with lies and ignore the truth about someone the left cares about. If you still can't see the double standard in this issue, I doubt you will ever open your eyes far enough to catch it anywhere eles.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    then the Giants beat up on the Saints on Sunday.

    Enjoy.

    Posted by D-Vega

    2009-10-16 17:24:53

    Unfortunately for you, that won't happen. Saints by 10. WHO DAT

  • BIG

    MSNBC admits that the Limbaugh quote is unsourced.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/10

  • BIG

    Thank you NFL for being consistant.

    Posted by EyeBEW77

    2009-10-17 12:18:55

    Consistant? Where is the outcry against a self admitted Nazi collaborator from the NFL? Why is it wrong to be conservative but OK pointing out Jews for execution? Where in your liberal playbook does this equal consistancy?

  • whats_up

    Posted by EyeBEW77

    2009-10-17 16:03:32

    Excellent point!!

  • whats_up

    Posted by BIG

    2009-10-17 13:40:31

    BIG, the truth of the matter is that it is inconsistent, but that is due more to marketing than to anything else. The reality is that Rush Limbaugh is one of the most polorizing figures in society, the voice of conservatism for the last 25 years. There is no monetary gain to having him as a part owner, and alot of downside monetarily to it. Capitalism at its finest.

  • BIG

    OK, I get it. Rush is polarizing and you feel that he should not have the rights that a Nazi colaborator has. Thank you for clearling up your position. The fact that fake quotes were used to sink his bid doesn't bother you in the slightest. You have no problem ignoring actual facts like that President Obama has surrounded himself with extreme Marxists. We don't even have to make up the quotes since the Commies in the Whitehouse are quite proud of their love for mass murderers. And I have high hopes for President Obama. Maybe the death toll in his wake will beat both Stalin and Mao combined, giving the left a hero they can really look up to.

  • whats_up

    And I have high hopes for President Obama. Maybe the death toll in his wake will beat both Stalin and Mao combined, giving the left a hero they can really look up to.

    Posted by BIG

    2009-10-17 19:53:32

    Really BIG, you are the fringe and should be laughed and ridiculed early and often. Rush was denied ownership because in the end the NFL was worried about losing money, it wasnt about politics but money. I thought you liked capatilism, I thought this is what you wanted. However to use that to say that Obama will now kill people, you are wacked my friend, you are a loon and should be sent for evaluation.

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