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Good News! Tape From Wisconsin Protest Signs Could Cost $7.5 Million In Damages
Written By : William Teach

Apparently, what democracy looks like to all those liberal protesters is destroying public property

State officials said Thursday that damage to the marble inside and out the State Capitol would cost an estimated $7.5 million.

Cari Anne Renlund, chief legal counsel for the state Department of Administration, said in Dane County court that estimates of damage to marble includes $6 million to repair damaged marble inside the Capitol, $1 million for damage outside and $500,000 for costs to supervise the damage.

Much of the damage apparently has come from tape used to put up signs and placards at the Capitol.

Obviously, the answer for this is to raise the taxes on the rich. Resisting the use of damaging tape in order to protect historic property would be just be stupid.

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  • D-Vega

    I wonder if they are using union labor to repair the marble.

    • Anonymous

      If the unions have to pay for it , they won”t use union labor.
      They used homeless people to picket !

    • Anonymous

      If the unions have to pay for it , they won”t use union labor.
      They used homeless people to picket !

      • D-Vega

        Maybe Walker should do it himself, along with the other Republicans.

        Show that they really care about saving money.

        • StanW

          Maybe he should arrest the people that actually DID the damage and make THEM clean it up.

          Or better yet, when he arrests the Democrats that are in contempt, offer them community service of doing this cleanup.

          • D-Vega

            Sure, ask the protesters to clean up after themselves.

            After that though, send Walker out there to show us how much he really care about saving money. Surely you could do it for less money.

          • StanW

            Why do you want Walker to clean it up, Vega? he didn’t do it. Let’s let some true criminals do the work. The felling Democrats are a good choice. They could actually do something GOOD for their state for a change.

          • StanW

            Why do you want Walker to clean it up, Vega? he didn’t do it. Let’s let some true criminals do the work. The felling Democrats are a good choice. They could actually do something GOOD for their state for a change.

          • Anonymous

            “Sure, ask the protesters to clean up after themselves. ”

            That will never happen.

            I’m not sure why you believe Walker is on the hook to clean up after your side.

            Is it that you have such low expectation for liberals that you can’t imagine them cleaning up their own messes? Or is everyone else just naturally in a position of cleaning up after liberals because liberals are like so smart and sophisticated that they like totally can’t be bothered with that sort of thing?

          • Anonymous

            Don’t you think having them clean it up would be a great lesson in what is it oh . . .personal responsibility. I make my kids clean up when they make a mess.

          • D-Vega

            Sure, ask the protesters to clean up after themselves.

            After that though, send Walker out there to show us how much he really care about saving money. Surely you could do it for less money.

        • StanW

          Maybe he should arrest the people that actually DID the damage and make THEM clean it up.

          Or better yet, when he arrests the Democrats that are in contempt, offer them community service of doing this cleanup.

        • Anonymous

          Walker should clean up the mess his opponents created?

          I mean it’s fairly typical for republicans to have to clean up after democrats but wouldn’t it make more sense for the pro-union folks to clean it up themselves as A) they made it and B) they’re arguing for greater government spending during a period of deficits?

        • Anonymous

          Typical lib expect someone else to clean up after you !

    • Anonymous

      That explains the price tag you were wondering about.

    • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

      I’m sure they are required to by law.

  • Anonymous

    maybe they should take it out of the pockets of the unions and their supporters,since they’re the ones that caused the damage, they should pay for it.

    • D-Vega

      Sounds like a bogus number so Imperial Walker can keep people out of the capital.

      $7.5 million from tape? Yeah, right.

      • Anonymous

        It may very well be a bogus number, However if it has damaged the surface of the marble that is typically an expensive repair. Refacing a stone suface requires a great deal of labor and these petty children should absolutely pay for it. Perhaps next time they’ll try acting like adults. I won’t hold my breath for that though.

        • D-Vega

          From tape, dude? $7.5 million?

          • Anonymous

            Have you ever given a child a marker?
            Same thing happens with a democrat.

          • Anonymous

            So In other words you don’t know and don’t care what the cost of the damage is.

      • Martin Hale

        Ever had marble counter tops, Vega? For a stone, it can be surprisingly high maintenance. Some varieties of marble are very porous and stain rather easily. Others scratch easily. Some of the lighter varieties can show heat marks from setting hot items on them.

        For an expensive and “hoity-toity” counter surface, it’s not all that practical.

        I’ve had marble in a couple of houses I’ve owned and I found it a nuisance – having to seal it every 3-6 months; having to religiously use hot pads, cutting boards or trivets to set things down on it; stopping what you’re doing to tend to each and every spill since you never know what substances are going to affect your marble and you’re never quite sure that the last sealing you did is still effective.

        I can easily understand how the gummy adhesive from tape, especially a particularly sticky tape like duct tape, would damage a marble surface. Duct tape damages a lot of surfaces. And I doubt that the walls and floors of those buildings are sealed every 3-6 months.

      • Martin Hale

        Ever had marble counter tops, Vega? For a stone, it can be surprisingly high maintenance. Some varieties of marble are very porous and stain rather easily. Others scratch easily. Some of the lighter varieties can show heat marks from setting hot items on them.

        For an expensive and “hoity-toity” counter surface, it’s not all that practical.

        I’ve had marble in a couple of houses I’ve owned and I found it a nuisance – having to seal it every 3-6 months; having to religiously use hot pads, cutting boards or trivets to set things down on it; stopping what you’re doing to tend to each and every spill since you never know what substances are going to affect your marble and you’re never quite sure that the last sealing you did is still effective.

        I can easily understand how the gummy adhesive from tape, especially a particularly sticky tape like duct tape, would damage a marble surface. Duct tape damages a lot of surfaces. And I doubt that the walls and floors of those buildings are sealed every 3-6 months.

      • Martin Hale

        Ever had marble counter tops, Vega? For a stone, it can be surprisingly high maintenance. Some varieties of marble are very porous and stain rather easily. Others scratch easily. Some of the lighter varieties can show heat marks from setting hot items on them.

        For an expensive and “hoity-toity” counter surface, it’s not all that practical.

        I’ve had marble in a couple of houses I’ve owned and I found it a nuisance – having to seal it every 3-6 months; having to religiously use hot pads, cutting boards or trivets to set things down on it; stopping what you’re doing to tend to each and every spill since you never know what substances are going to affect your marble and you’re never quite sure that the last sealing you did is still effective.

        I can easily understand how the gummy adhesive from tape, especially a particularly sticky tape like duct tape, would damage a marble surface. Duct tape damages a lot of surfaces. And I doubt that the walls and floors of those buildings are sealed every 3-6 months.

        • StanW

          Martin, you are wasting your time. Vega is not disputing the number because he cares about the granite or does not know it’s maintenance cost.Vega is calling into question the number, becasue he feels (as most Leftists do) that if they continue to deny something happened, then it never did.Just yesterday, he states unflinchingly that no Tea Party member has been beaten up at a rally. Multiple examples were given. In all of them, he said “nope, not beaten up.” Leftists beleive that they and they along control information like this. As long as THEY SAY nothing happened and refuse to see the evidence, then it never happened.You could give him a dissertation from experts on granite and an itimized bill for the repairs, and Vega would wave his hand at it and tell us it was all bogus and a lie.

          • D-Vega

            More bluster from you, too.

          • D-Vega

            More bluster from you, too.

        • D-Vega

          $7.5 million from tape, martin? And they’ve been able to estimate this while this crisis is going on?

          It’s more bluster from Imperial Walker.

          • Anonymous

            Care to back your words up, or are you just talking out your ass?

          • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

            It would be the latter.

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            Care to prove the estimate wrong?

          • D-Vega

            Sure, just as soon as I have an opportunity to view the estimate.

            Is there a link to documentation of the estimate?

            The article says “It was not immediately clear how the estimates were made” and “They need a quote from a company that specializes in cleaning historic surfaces”

            So I would guess there is a quote somewhere. Certainly that wouldn’t just be pulling this number out of their ass, right?

          • Anonymous

            Wait, are you arguing *against* greater government spending?

            You realize this isn’t going to the military, this is good spending.

          • Martin Hale

            Well, if the marble can’t be repaired, it might have to be replaced. Remember, we’re talking about marble which might have been laid a hundred years or more ago. Because of it’s age and wear characteristics, the ‘pores’ of it might be wide open and it might be more susceptible to damage from tape adhesives, especially those parts of it which have been exposed to the weather for a long time. Given its likely age, its reasonable to assume that matching it is going to be difficult, if not impossible.

            Marble goes for between $50 and $100 per ft². $7.5MM represents only 75,000 ft² of marble at the high end of that price range, 150,000 ft² at the low end. Plus, it’s not every Tom, Dick or Harry who can tackle a huge job like that – the bidding for that contract is going to be between some large contractors with large labour forces and high prices.

            To give you a sense of scale, 75,000 ft² is a space 273.86 ft on a side. Not all that large when considering the size and scale of most state houses. It’s easy to imagine that the plaza, steps and front walls and columns of the WI state house contain perhaps that much marble. Certainly if one considers the interior of the vestibule space and the grand staircase(s) such building generally have, with a marble floor and marble wainscoting on the walls up to 10 or 12 ft, I don’t think it’s out of bounds of possibiltiy that there could be more than 75,000 ft² of marble there.

            I’m not saying the estimate isn’t being used for political purposes, I’m saying that the estimate itself, might well be very accurate.

        • Anonymous

          I distinctly remember being taught in college Geology that Marble is the most chemical weathering-susceptible type of stone surface that there is, Granites being among the least. I have to agree with this article, my parents had a few marble-topped pieces of furniture when I was a kid, and Yes, Mr. Hale is right. Tape adhesives are among the substances that can mar polished marble as well as the compounds needed to dissolve and remove said adhesive. After the adhesive is removed, it needs to be polished again, easily making the repair job costly.
          And if they use union crews to undo what the fleabags did, they’ll need LOTS of supervision!

          • Martin Hale

            Infidel – I played music on weekends up until I was 45. Every band I ever played with used duct tape to hold down the sea of wires and cables a band uses. Miles of duct tape. All the cabling on the stage; all the cabling connecting the stage with the audio board and PA amps; all the cabling connecting the audio board and PA amps back to the PA speakers. It wasn’t unusual to go through half a dozen rolls of duct tape a night. You’ve got to tape cables down firmly so that people don’t trip over them – there are usually plenty of clumsy drunks around where loud music is being played.

            Since bands use so much duct tape, musicians tend to buy the cheapest tape they can find. I used to go for those ’10 rolls for $5′ deals at home centres. The thing about cheap duct tape (I love the stuff that’s so cheap they call it ‘duck tape’) the fabric backing of the tape is weak, thin crap, but they use the gooiest adhesive they could get to compensate for it. It always left marks. Always.

            I’ve personally ruined, or contributed to the ruin of dozens of floors, walls and even ceilings over the years from slapping yards of cheap duct tape over them, then unceremoniously ripping it off at some later date. If the tear-off took paint, stain or other decoration off – oops – glad it wasn’t my floor or wall.

            I know, I’ve walked out of gigs where I left sticky tape residue on stone floors and walls, even down stone steps. What I don’t remember is whether the stone in question was granite or marble. But given my own personal experience with stone counters, I’m sure that if someone didn’t come by in a short while after we left to get the residue off, it was going to become a permanent mark on the surface. I remember one summer afternoon playing on the marble plaza & steps in front of one of grand old public buildings in Flint, MI. It was easily a hundred degrees and we were in the sun most of the day. That cheap-*ss tape literally melted into the stone. We couldn’t even get all the tape off, let alone the residue.

        • Anonymous

          I distinctly remember being taught in college Geology that Marble is the most chemical weathering-susceptible type of stone surface that there is, Granites being among the least. I have to agree with this article, my parents had a few marble-topped pieces of furniture when I was a kid, and Yes, Mr. Hale is right. Tape adhesives are among the substances that can mar polished marble as well as the compounds needed to dissolve and remove said adhesive. After the adhesive is removed, it needs to be polished again, easily making the repair job costly.
          And if they use union crews to undo what the fleabags did, they’ll need LOTS of supervision!

        • Anonymous

          My parents had a marble table that held up very well until when I was in college we had a cat throw up on it. The acid from her stomach ruined the table and it could not be repaired. I know that duct tape is different from a cat’s insides, but marble is not the most robust of surfaces.

      • Anonymous

        Imperial Walker? Odd, he’s not the one telling taxpayers they can eat cake.

  • Anonymous

    maybe they should take it out of the pockets of the unions and their supporters,since they’re the ones that caused the damage, they should pay for it.

  • http://2b118o6vet4qmzb562fssh6m6q.hop.clickbank.net/ Michelle

    Well OBVIOUSLY we should just outlaw tape, cardboard, markers, and the alphabet……

    When that doesn’t work we should imediately either implement new licencing rules and registration requirements to even own these OBVIOUSLY hazardus materials to control the destruction THEY caused….

    The thought of making the unions PAY for the damage THEY caused is OBVIOUSLY a racist attack on poor children, illegals, Obama or some other as of yet unmentioned displaced minority group….

  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    The tape probably isn’t the biggest problem, the trash all over probably is a much bigger one.

    • D-Vega

      It costs NYC $50K to clean-up Times Square on January 1.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OZBTYQK5MN5SKP6FA6KK4TJOQ4 MichaelAlan

        I doubt that. NYC is a union city.

        • D-Vega

          Crews wasted no time getting to work cleaning up Times Square after the big New Year’s Eve ball drop. About 175 sanitation workers were at the ready and hit the ground running after the square cleared out. It was a big job. There was an estimated 40 tons of confetti, party favors and trash to clear out. They used 23 mechanical sweepers, 21 collection trucks and three-dozen leaf blowers. The cost of last year’s cleanup job was more than $50,000.

          http://www.necn.com/01/01/11/NYC-crews-clean-up-Times-Square/landing_nation.html?blockID=383103&feedID=4207

          • Anonymous

            Sweeping up using blowers is different than removing the chemicals left by tape.

          • Anonymous

            Sweeping up using blowers is different than removing the chemicals left by tape.

      • Don_cos

        That is likely a pittance compared to the revenues brought in due to the celebrations.

        • D-Vega

          The police overtime is a little different, though.

          • Don_cos

            True, but it still can’t come close to the $$$ brought in.

        • D-Vega

          The police overtime is a little different, though.

      • Anonymous

        That is because there were a lot of republicans in the NY crowd and in WI it was all Democrats and they are oh so messy.

      • Anonymous

        People don’t go to times square for new years pissed off and looking to destroy the place.

        Besides, it’s New York. They only have to get it so clean.

        Wisconsin is a far tidier place.

      • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

        That seems cheap, but then again, its expected and part of an incredible earning period for the city rather than petulant union stooges trying to prevent the Democratic Party from losing power, so I would consider that a different sort of issue.

  • http://twitter.com/cfhailer Charles Hailer

    $7.5 MILLION to clean up tape and litter?

    Are you now choosing to champion gross government waste over people’s First Amendment Rights to score a (VERY) cheap political point?

    • Anonymous

      Yep $7.5 million:
      It is a union job that requires 10 people supervising the one person who is currently on a break, It should only take 10 months to remove all the tape. They are currently having discussions about which is the correct ladder to use, and if it is ok to pull the tape off with bare fingers or should gloves be required.

      • Anonymous

        I assume most of that 10 months will consist of paid vacation time and smoke/coffee breaks.

        • Don_cos

          No smoking. Unless its medical marijuana.

    • Anonymous

      Leftists in large masses are quite adept at creating huge messes that the taxpayers get stuck cleaning up.

      Just look at what’s going on in DC right now.

  • Anonymous

    Look folks, you must know (you’re not stupid), but when Walker speaks he is talking for the Koch brothers. The Koch brothers represent the worse of Corportism, or as it is now coming to be known, Corportacracy.

    Walker is a Corporacratic leading the fight to lower state taxes in Wisconsin on the wealthy. If that means screwing the teachers or state workers or the unions, so be it. Greed is good, and it is not just a line in a movie. It is the reality in Wisconsin.

    • StanW

      Joe, you barely know anything yourself. Do not speak for what we do and do not know.

      Your delusions are not truth. Get help soon!

    • Anonymous

      And the unions are doing the bidding of Soros.

    • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

      This from a communist who has sold his soul to George Soros.

    • Anonymous

      I believe a small fraction of his total funding came from them.

      He is nowhere near as beholden to the Koch brothers as every single democrat in the country is beholden to the unions.

  • Anonymous

    I’m going to laugh if they have to cut teachers benefits even more to compensate for the damage pro-union protesters have cost.

  • Anonymous

    The Republican MAJORITY in the legislature should charge the unions RENT (and a CLEANING FEE) for their deadbeat members living in the capital building by deducting it from the union dues they current collect for them. (That’s works out to being the same as taking money out of the pockets of the lunatic-left d-crat socialists, who ordinarily get these union dues as their bribe/payoff.)

  • http://twitter.com/Woop_de_doo Seymour Butts

    Well as a masonry restoration expert, that is the most ridiculous sum I ever heard. This kind of clean up job should be done with water and soft brushes, something the janitor can do on his regular payroll. Sorry, this just sounds desperate. Where did the estimate come from? I would like to call and say nice work if you can get it.

  • http://twitter.com/Woop_de_doo Seymour Butts

    As a masonry restoration expert I would like to say that this is a ridiculous sum to place on this job. Painter’s tape is specifically formulated to wash off easily if it needs washing at all. Also there are no special treatments or chemicals needed. Even the state preservation society says that this kind of cleaning job requires only mild soap, water and soft brushes.

    Sorry, this sounds like sheer stupidity in choosing a contractor and sadly will be exposed as a tactical lie. Get the janitor to do it during work hours. Save the state some money.

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