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The New York Times: Wouldn’t The World Be Better Off If The Human Race Went Extinct?
Written By : John Hawkins

Influential left-wing wacko Peter Singer, who has previously argued in favor of  infanticide and bestiality, has been allowed to write a column for the New York Times. In a saner world  that would make news, but there are so many lunatics, freaks, and monsters who’ve edged into the mainstream on the Left that people barely even seem to notice.

Setting that aside, HorseHumper McMurderbaby has actually written a column arguing for the extinction of the human race. My initial thought: You first, buddy.

Benatar also argues that human lives are, in general, much less good than we think they are. We spend most of our lives with unfulfilled desires, and the occasional satisfactions that are all most of us can achieve are insufficient to outweigh these prolonged negative states. If we think that this is a tolerable state of affairs it is because we are, in Benatar’s view, victims of the illusion of pollyannaism. This illusion may have evolved because it helped our ancestors survive, but it is an illusion nonetheless. If we could see our lives objectively, we would see that they are not something we should inflict on anyone.

Here is a thought experiment to test our attitudes to this view. Most thoughtful people are extremely concerned about climate change. Some stop eating meat, or flying abroad on vacation, in order to reduce their carbon footprint. But the people who will be most severely harmed by climate change have not yet been conceived. If there were to be no future generations, there would be much less for us to feel to guilty about.

…Of course, it would be impossible to get agreement on universal sterilization, but just imagine that we could. Then is there anything wrong with this scenario? Even if we take a less pessimistic view of human existence than Benatar, we could still defend it, because it makes us better off — for one thing, we can get rid of all that guilt about what we are doing to future generations — and it doesn’t make anyone worse off, because there won’t be anyone else to be worse off.

Is a world with people in it better than one without? Put aside what we do to other species — that’s a different issue. Let’s assume that the choice is between a world like ours and one with no sentient beings in it at all. And assume, too — here we have to get fictitious, as philosophers often do — that if we choose to bring about the world with no sentient beings at all, everyone will agree to do that. No one’s rights will be violated — at least, not the rights of any existing people. Can non-existent people have a right to come into existence?

I do think it would be wrong to choose the non-sentient universe. In my judgment, for most people, life is worth living. Even if that is not yet the case, I am enough of an optimist to believe that, should humans survive for another century or two, we will learn from our past mistakes and bring about a world in which there is far less suffering than there is now. But justifying that choice forces us to reconsider the deep issues with which I began. Is life worth living? Are the interests of a future child a reason for bringing that child into existence? And is the continuance of our species justifiable in the face of our knowledge that it will certainly bring suffering to innocent future human beings?

After reading that last paragraph, you might think Singer was weaseling his way back from the edge of the cliff and fudging a bit on whether he’d like to see human beings go the way of the Dodo. Unfortunately, you’d be incorrect, because Singer has explicitly said that he believes animals are sentient and hence, even if humans disappeared, there would still be sentient life on the planet,

Why am I prepared to restrict my campaign to the great apes? After all, the central thesis of my book, Animal Liberation, is that the principle which entitles us to regard all human beings as equal-the principle of equal consideration of interests-ought to be applied to all beings with interests. Because all beings capable of experiencing pleasure and pain have interests, this includes all mammals-indeed, all vertebrates, and many invertebrates too. I have not changed my views about extending this principle to all sentient beings, but I am attracted by the chance to extend basic rights beyond our own species right now.

Incidentally, just in case you’re wondering, yes, Singer is arguing there that manta rays, rats, and bullfrogs should be given all the legal rights and privileges of human beings.

So, just to recap: A guy who wants to give human rights to chickens, supports 7th trimester “abortions” and having sex with  animals  is writing in the most prestigious liberal paper in America about how we’d all be better off if the species died off. Welcome to modern liberalism.

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  • chefjuan

    You go first, Mr.Singer.

    • Lillith

      Hehe…you read my mind….and just think, he would be free of guilt.

  • northerncanuck

    I suppose can find a perspective where the world is better off without humans but to what end? And who would confirm it and appreciate it?

    • UFKA_Smithwick

      Kind of impossible to say it would be better off since we are the ones defining what is better or worse. I have yet to see an emissary from gaia come forth to announce what her opinion on the subject.

  • Reality is way left of center

    John, as an anti-intellectual anti-science (uneducated, untraveled) blogger, you don't understand that ideas can be weighed in intellectual discussions without any desire to see those ideas fulfilled.

    • mightysamurai

      It says a lot about you that you think it's okay to fantasize about genocide.

      • UFKA_Smithwick

        No no, it's just a hypothetical.

        Like if a far right nutjob were to say “hypothetically if we were to get rid of all black folks we wouldn't have as much crime and poverty in the US” the people like Reality here would adamantly support this conjecture and in no way denounce it as racist or evil. To criticize such a person would afterall reveal the critic to be “anti-intellectual, anti-science, uneducated and untraveled”.

        Hehe.

      • Real Politik

        It's OK to fantasize about anything.That is why fantasies exist.

    • Mediumheadboy

      Hmmm, judging from the tired-ass catchphrases, this must be our old buddy Jack Off. Still “think” Algore is an intellectual, Off?

  • Christopher_Taylor

    Why does this lunatic degenerate get any press or access in the first place? Good lord how horrific and despicable a human being do you have to be to be denied inches in the New York Times?

  • mightysamurai

    Here is a thought experiment to test our attitudes to this view. Most thoughtful people are extremely concerned about climate change. Some stop eating meat, or flying abroad on vacation, in order to reduce their carbon footprint. But the people who will be most severely harmed by climate change have not yet been conceived. If there were to be no future generations, there would be much less for us to feel to guilty about.

    So people without kids can spew as much carbon as they want guilt-free. Got it.

  • UFKA_Smithwick

    He doesn't seem to be hurting for money. Why doesn't he set up a fund to provide free, irreversible sterilizations for likeminded lefties?

    We do it currently for stray dogs and cats and no one seems to have a problem with that. Why not stray lefties who are arguably a greater burden on society, more at risk for spreading disease and are less able to care for themselves than stray animals?

    In fact I throw my whole-hearted support behind you Mr. Singer. Go forth and sterilize everyone who follows your ideology!

    I'll even look the otherway while you f*ck a dog or two.

  • Mediumheadboy

    Wouldn’t The World Be Better Off If The New York Times Went Extinct? We'll soon find out.

  • Real Politik

    The evidence points to the fact that even God agrees with this opinion. We are born but to die.

    • Christopher_Taylor

      By that logic every animal on earth, and every plant, should be killed because the world would be better off… because everything dies. Except leftist stupidity, apparently.

      • Real Politik

        Life itself is a death warrent. It's God's plan.

        • Christopher_Taylor

          That buzzing sound was a clue flying far over your head.

    • http://conservativebootcamp.com Martin Hale

      And yet we, like all forms of life of which we're aware, are also born with one imperative – the biological imperative to reproduce and perpetuate our species. Whether you're a person of faith who believes in a divine genesis of life, or a steely-eyed man of science who believes that life arose from a primordial soup of organic chemicals, there's no getting around the fact that all life was born to reproduce itself and in doing so perpetuate life itself.

      So maybe God isn't such a strong supporter of Mr. Singer's POV after all.

    • Mr. EMT

      Real pathetic, God ordered man to go forth, be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth.
      Again your education crashed head on into reality and like a bug on a windshield your brains shot out of your ass.

  • wlh2040

    While the west contemplates self-annihilation, moslems the world over cheer and re-double their efforts.

  • ROK

    “— for one thing, we can get rid of all that guilt about what we are doing to future generations — ”

    it's easy to do, pal – just don't be a liberal moron and you won't feel this guilt. it's this guilt that is driving our species to oblivion. liberals feel guilty about being born.

    • UFKA_Smithwick

      Liberals always seem to insist on making others pay for their own feelings of guilt.

  • Christopher_Taylor

    What confuses me is how people like this cannot comprehend how human beings are part of the “circle of life” and “biosphere” the left continually pushes. Its like people who have evolution as their worldview think humanity somehow is outside that entire system.

    • Toastrider

      Hey, evolution's part of my worldview! Of course, so are concepts like life cycles, ecology (as opposed to environmentalism), wise use, etc.

      But yeah, I get the impression that lefties flunked biology in high school.

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com Martin Hale

    Well, if the past is any harbinger of the future, Mr. Singer will eventually get his wish. Depending on whose estimates you believe, 98% or 99.9% of species which have ever lived on Earth are already extinct, meaning of course that the panoply of life of which we are aware today represents no more than 2% of the history of life, and perhaps as little as one tenth of one percent of it.

    With odds like that, the safe bet is on human extinction at some point in the future.

    Probably the worst that can be said of Mr. Singer and his ilk is that they engage in the most onanistic of pastimes – intellectual navel-gazing.

  • mazabdul

    I support sex with animals…Ann Coulter needs love like anyone else

    • blkdragon

      Maybe, but she ain't going to sleep with you. I don't think she's into bestiality.

    • Mr. EMT

      mazabdul, does your family still allow you near the pet goat?

  • serfer62

    FLASH…women and minorites hurt most!!!

  • Silrette

    Ultimately, all leftism boils down to anti-human life.

  • Mr. EMT

    The planet would choke the life from itself.

  • Birdzilla

    This is the same kind of bull clap spewed by the zero populationists wackos like PAUL EHRLICH and WORLDWATCH and other of these extremists, It would be much better if the NEW YORK TIMES ceased publication

  • Swemson

    If a tree fell in a forest and nobody is there to hear it fall, how can we know if it really fell?

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