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Liveblogging Obama’s Speech On Afghanistan At 8 PM EST
Written By : John Hawkins

Tonight at 8 PM EST, I’ll be liveblogging Obama’s speech on Afghanistan. So, if you’re watching, make sure to head over to RWN, refresh to read the real time commentary, and chip in your two cents in the comments section.

7:25: Supposedly, Obama is going to set up a “timeline” in this speech. That was a dumb, politically motivated idea in Iraq and it would be even dumber in Afghanistan because it lets the bad guys know exactly what you’re going to do. If they know all they have to do is hunker down in some village in Pakistan for a while, then you’ll leave and they can get what they want without fighting, well, why wouldn’t they do that?

8:03: Here we go…

8:04: Dull history lesson here…

8:05: West Pointers look bored.

8:06: Now we play the blame Bush game, despite the fact that things in Afghanistan and Pakistan have gone backwards under Obama…

8:07: We haven’t “successfully” left Iraq anywhere yet.

8:08: Bush didn’t deny troops to any commanders in Afghanistan. That’s simply not so.

8:09: No, Afghanistan wasn’t moving backwards under Bush for several years — it has moved backwards rapidly under YOU, Obama.

8:11: Let me be clear — there has been no delay — knew there was a lie coming after that. That’s his explanation for dithering.

8:12: 30k US troops are going to Afghanistan and in 18 months we’re coming home. That’s splitting the baby in half for the sake of politics.

8:13: If the security of the United States is at stake in Afghanistan in Pakistan, how can we set a timeline and say we’re coming back, win or lose?

8:14: We’ve apprehended terrorists from Afghanistan/Pakistan here in our country.

8:15: If we fail in Pakistan, Al-Qaeda gets nukes — so we’re setting a timeline and leaving, win or lose?

8:16: I’ve asked our allies to send more troops. Good.

8:17: In July of 2011, we’re going to start leaving — taking into account conditions on the ground. Setting a timeline for failure helps who? Us or the Taliban? Politically it helps Obama. The troops, it hurts. The Taliban, it helps.

8:18: We’re going to try to fix the corruption in Afghanistan and help them with their agriculture. Good luck on fixing the corruption there.

8:19: We will support Afghanistan if they want to cut deals with Taliban who are willing to stop fighting. I support that. Some other people won’t.

8:20: There’s danger in Pakistan, too. Very true. The Pakistani army has gone into Swat. We are with the Pakistani government against extremists. We will work with Pakistan — Bush was doing that, too. Better than Obama has been doing.

8:22: The three prongs are relatively detail free.

8:23: I’m glad he’s noting Afghanistan isn’t Vietnam. It’s not. But, his arguments are lame. Vietnam was lost by foolish politicians. He didn’t address that.

8:23: We can’t go forward without adding more troops. We need more troops to have a chance.

8:24: We must have a timeline because some people want to be there for a decade. Ehr, I haven’t heard that. We need to motivate the Afghanistan gov’t. We will, all right. I hope we won’t motivate them to cooperate with our enemies because we won’t be around.

8:26: We can’t afford the war in Afghanistan — says the man who has pushed a stimulus bill, cap and trade, and socialized medicine.

8:28: Blather, blather, blather…

8:29: We have forged a new relation between America and the Muslim world….ehr, since when? When did that happen?

8:29: I’m closing Gitmo.

8:30: Notice how the applause lines didn’t draw any applause? Obama sounds like what he is: A sleazy politician playing political games with our soldiers’ lives?

8:32: Finally, some reluctant, half hearted applause.

8:33: More sleepy, polite applause.

8:34: Yes, we were united when this war started — then all the liberals blew it.

8:35: How can our resolve be unwavering when we have a timeline?

Summary: Shorter Obama: I blame Bush for all the problems! I’m sending 30,000 troops. This is a war of necessity and my commitment is unwavering — but, here’s a timeline for when we’re leaving, win or lose.

Obama is obviously playing politics with the war and the audience at West Point, young though they may be, seemed to sense it and were cold to the speech. On the one hand, Barack Obama said, “I am convinced that our security is at stake in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” He also said, “Our resolve (is) unwavering.” Then, why are we setting a timeline to withdraw, win or lose?

All in all, it wasn’t a great speech. It was passionless, intellectually incoherent — and it sounded weak. If you’re the Taliban, you’re greatly encouraged after hearing this speech. If you care about winning and a Commander-In-Chief who’s committed to victory, you’re greatly discouraged. Grade: D-

Update #1: The full text of the speech is here.

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  • Markus

    If i didn’t know better, I thought i heard the cadets groan rather loudly in disapproval during the 8:04- 8:07 mark…

  • http://annoyedelephants.wordpress.com 5minutes

    Thank God for you watching this tripe, John.

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    Off topic, but Andrew Sullivan has, like Charles Johnson of LGF, admitted he’s not really a conservative or on the right at all. I guess that takes away a talking point from Huck.

  • CoolCzech

    Obama looks exhausted, and his hair is noticeably greying. Is he ill?

    Anyway,

    I’m listening and… the guy sounds word for word just like Bush. I’m rubbing my eyes… is he starting to look like Bush?

    I mean, it’s all there: the Coalition of the (43) Willing, the “we know they are developing nuclear weapons and will use them,” the “we caught terrorists in just the last few months.”

    What was Obama’s beef with Bush, exactly, again?

  • CoolCzech

    Time to stop the speech, Barry – no more We Are the Ones We Are Waiting For.

    Cut it short, Man!

  • Markus

    Notice how the applause lines didn’t draw any applause? Obama sounds like what he is: A sleazy politician playing political games with our soldier’s lives?
    ===========

    That look on his face was just telling.. “applaud me dammit!”

  • CoolCzech

    Screw the UN, Barry. They won’t do crap for you. And saying “we are confident other (of our allies)” will provide more troops eventually means they told Barry no.

    I suppose the Germans migjt send over a regiment of non-combat hair dressers or something.

  • CoolCzech

    It’s eerie: Bush could have given this speech. Only he would have given it decisively, 6 months ago, and given McChrystal 40,000 troops.

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    President Obama’s hair has always been graying, he’s just been coloring it like Reagan always did. Makes you seem more youthful and energetic.

    What you figured Reagan had pitch black hair at age 80?

  • CoolCzech

    I guess Barry is running low on Grecian Formula, heh heh.

    The most troublesome about the speech: he said we bug out in 2011. But what if the war ain’t over yet? Come on, Barry – is the war in our “vital national interest” or NOT??

    And isn’t he telling the Taliban, in effect, “Come on guys, just hang on for 18 more months… and we’re outta there!”

  • http://www.thepiratescove.us William_Teach

    He pre-empted a Charlie Brown Christmas for this?

    It’ll take like 5 months to get all the troops and materials in place, meaning we have 13 months before we cut and run. Great.

    Other than a timeline, what, exactly, is the “exit strategy,” Barry?

  • CoolCzech

    I don’t believe for an instant that his dithering didn’t cause a delay in Afghanistan – it takes MONTHS to move all those troops. He cost the war effort 6 months, 6 months in which the Taliban will strengthen its grip.

  • CoolCzech

    8:29: I’m closing Gitmo.

    Right.

    Obama’s OTHER “timeline” and “exit strategy,” LOL!

    You’d have thought THAT debacle would have taught Obama to stay away from setting firm dates for uncertain events. But NO, the guy is just plain stuck on stupid, sticking his finger in the same socket over and over.

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    Probably take longer than 5 months, its harder to move materials and men into Afghanistan, particularly without a friendly port and nearby airports.

  • gfchicago

    God bless you John for putting up with that mans grating voice. I deliberately did not watch this piece of crap last night, however I listen to the Mark Levin show every morning from his website (audio rewind). Evidently Mark’s station requires that he carry Obummer’s speeches, so I to listen to this idiot whether I want to or not. At least Mark has a running commentary during his speech, which is quite funny.

    He brings up Iraq then does an about face saying that it now longer needed to be debated, then why in the hell did he bring it up in the first place.

    Obummer is perhaps the most narcissistic President we have ever had, I’ve never heard so many I’s or my’s in my life coming out of a President’s mouth. It’s always all about him, particularly that bit about him visiting wounded solders and signing letters to the families of our fallen soldiers. Doesn’t he know that it is in bad taste to mention those things? I don’t recall President Bush pulling that crap. When I heard him say those things all I could think is woop te do.

  • belacuse

    You know, the only thing I hate about our dear leader’s speeches is the days that follow where we have to endure the tedious fact checkers picking apart every little detail of his speech.

    /sarc

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    The reaction by the left? Chris Matthews called West Point “enemy territory” and said that they were “rabble” that Wolfowitz used to “rouse.”

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