Over at the Huffpo, blogger Steve Andersen has a post called, "Molly Ivins: Right Wingers cheer her death." The egregious examples by far that he points out are some truly despicable comments at the MSNBC Message Board about Molly Ivins.
Here's a sample of what some of these scumbags have to say:
Joe R. (11 posts): A sad case -- she couldn't help being ugly AND stupid, but she could have kept her mouth shut and her fingers off the keyboard. Good riddance.CRJ_Pilot (3 posts): All that liberal anger and rage against those not like her neocommunist self decayed Molly from the inside out. Hate kills.
Blueoystercult (5 posts): You see Molly, when you are so full of hate, the cheap way you attacked the president, no wonder you got cancer. The world is a better place without this vile witch!
Leo93230 (7 posts): i am soooooooo glad that she is dead. I smiled so BIG when i saw the news of her passing. GOOD RIDDANCE to a hate filled bitter old hag who had nothing good to say about anyone outside of her political views. I hope to GOD that there will never be another one-sided close-minded hate-filled columnist but then again........when she goes there are plenty of acid tongue liberals to go around to fill her shoes.
normalamerican (1 post): Good riddance to bad rubbish as my mom used to say. Her one-sided left-wing hatchet jobs are finally gone and will soon be forgotten.
Tramplife (1 post): They say bitterness is what brings on cancer and lowers the bodies resistance to fight the disease,and with the venom this legacy media relic spewed out it is no wonder she got it and "LOST the FIGHT".....I'm sure St. Peters has some good ol folks by his side who will see her for what she is and bounce her butt of the cloud.......GOOD RIDDANCE MOLLY , may you keep Saddaam warm for eternity!!!!
Brddrb (1 post): Hell just got a little more crowded.
canthony (9 post): No tears here, she was taking up space on this earth as with most liberals blaming their problems on everyone else, instead of themselves. Good riddance!!
Now obviously, these sort of incredibly inappropriate comments in wake of someone's death have unfortunately become more prevalent in recent years, so some of them could certainly be real. If they are -- and again, some of them may be -- they certainly deserve to be condemned in the strongest of terms.
However, if you'll notice, I included a post count with each offensive quote. That's because I don't think a lot of these posts are genuine. I think some liberal or group of liberals out there, either because they wanted to make conservatives look bad or because they wanted something to blog about, created most of them. Granted, not all of the accounts have been created since Ivins' death, but obviously, given their post counts, these are not people who regularly post on those boards. So, are there really that many people who were inspired to post for the first time, or at least for the first time in months, just so they could say nasty things about Molly Ivins after her death? It seems highly doubtful.
PS: The term "Mobying" comes from this quote by musician Moby:
"No one's talking about how to keep the other side home on Election Day. It's a lot easier than you think and it doesn't cost that much. This election can be won by 200,000 votes. You target (Bush's) natural constituencies. For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion."
PS #2: When I take quotes from places like the Democratic Underground, I don't use quotes from people with under 40-50 comments for exactly this reason.
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Posted by KyleN
2007-02-01 14:26:00
Here's an example:
Brddrb (1 post): Hell just got a little more crowded.
What good do thoughts like these do to improve your own life? Is your life going to get any better because Ivins is spending eternity in hell? I always despised her writings but I would NEVER wish this for her. The world (and the afterlife) are big enough for the both of us. Unfortunately, too many people think that wishing ill of others will somehow better their life.
They may indeed be conservatives and, if so, they have lost the REAL meaning of their beliefs. This is unacceptable, PERIOD!
RIP Ms. Ivins
Posted by Kingfisher
2007-02-01 14:43:26
Posted by lumberjack7393
2007-02-01 14:46:04
I hope that God is with Ms. Ivins' family and friends in their hour of grief. She is in my prayers.
Posted by RtWingNtCase
2007-02-01 14:55:53
....and thus, the MOBY accusation.
Posted by sterm26
2007-02-01 14:58:02
I can say that my sympathies go out to her family and friends. But I can't say that I will miss reading her columns.
Posted by bthewolf
2007-02-01 15:21:43
On the other hand, I have no such belief about Jimmy Carter who is a truly despicable person who constantly harms his own country.
Will it be all right for me to be happy when he dies? (Not that I will post something stupid on a blog)
Posted by KyleN
2007-02-01 15:24:45
You can be satisfied a killer cannot kill anymore, but no death should be celebrated.
I applaud Mr. Hawkins pointing out this venom towards Ms. Ivins. I don't hold any of the comments from an anonymous blog against conservatives. I hope you all won't hold comments from DU against liberals.
Posted by D-Vega
2007-02-01 15:30:01
Posted by riteguy
2007-02-01 15:43:26
Posted by bjlillo
2007-02-01 15:46:35
I beg to differ. I celebrated when I heard of Saddam's death. I plan to celebrate when I hear of Osama bin Laden and Fidel Castro's deaths as well. I imagine lots of people celebrated when we finally confirmed Hitler's death.
It is perfectly reasonable to celebrate an enemy's death. However, Molly Ivins was not an "enemy". She was, at best, a rival. The idea that our political opponents are "enemies" is precisely why politics has become such a cutthroat business.
Posted by mightysamurai
2007-02-01 15:51:42
Too true. I remember a frank discussion I once had with a gay man while I was in high school. He claimed that his chapter of the Gay/Straight Alliance was keeping a bottle of champagne to be opened on the eve of Ronald Reagan's death.
Posted by mightysamurai
2007-02-01 15:56:33
Celebrating the death of an enemy, ala Saddam or Osama, is a different matter entirely.
Posted by StanW
2007-02-01 16:06:23
Celebrating, to me anyway, is the joy you feel and the partying you do when you get married or graduate or have a baby or get a new job.
That's celebrating. The feeling I had when Sadam was caught or put to death was satisfaction. Resolution. Accomplishment. I would feel the same if UBL faced a similiar fate. When or if he is killed I will be satisfied, but I will also say a prayer and remember all the people that suffered because of him.
I would not be popping champagne or having a keg party.
I think you demean yourself when find joy in an otherwise morbid and sober event.
Tell that to the Cubans in Miami.
Posted by D-Vega
2007-02-01 16:14:36
Maybe I just have a drinking problem, but I enjoy celebrating the deaths of scum of the earth like them.
Posted by bjlillo
2007-02-01 17:04:11
I happen to have Cuban friends in the Tampa area, and I just might hop a plane to join them for the Big Party when that vile sonofabitch Castro dies. I'll be sure to let them know of your prissy disapproval of their celebrating the death of the dictator who stole their country, killed members their families and ruined their lives. I'm pretty sure I know exactly what they'll say.
Posted by CavalierX
2007-02-01 17:22:03
Posted by KyleN
2007-02-01 17:27:17
Posted by Don_cos
2007-02-01 17:52:46
PS: Rose, save your breath, we already know what you think.
Posted by huckupchuck
2007-02-01 18:19:05
Posted by demtse
2007-02-01 18:24:16
Posted by huckupchuck
Well, since you asked so nicely! ;)
You are rivals in the arena of political ideas. I want the same thing you do; to destroy my rival with facts and logic and win him or her to my side. It hasn't happened with you yet, Huck, but I am still hopeful! ;)
Unfortunately, some of the Liberals on here (and a couple of Conservatives) want nothing more than to display their point of view in a caustic manner, and denigrate any and all opposition. They are the trolls, worthy of the same amount of respect and tolerance they give others. Even then, I don't want them dead, but I wouldn't cry if they went away!
Posted by StanW
2007-02-01 18:27:08
Again, "rival" does not accurately describe how I view liberals or (I would hope) how liberals view us. But it is a much more accurate description than "enemy". An enemy is someone you hate. Someone you seak to utterly defeat so that they never trouble you again. A rival is someone you may dislike and disagree with, but you are perfectly willing to coexist with.
Posted by mightysamurai
2007-02-01 18:43:36
Goes both ways, Huck.
Posted by jimg
2007-02-01 19:01:18
Posted by Capitalist_Infidel
2007-02-01 19:18:13
So you may want to think that what Liberals say about Ann Coulter While she is alive is just as agregious.
Posted by clayv4
2007-02-01 19:24:55
Posted by D-Vega
2007-02-01 20:05:24
That said...If I've ever read one of her columns, it was by accident. I never knew about her enough to despise her.
Now, Peter Jennings...Thats a different story. I grew to genuinely hate the man.
I didn't go out and fire my pistol in the air at his death, but I didn't go break a 40 oz. on the curb, either.
Posted by Mr_Meaner
2007-02-01 20:35:24
Posted by huckupchuck
2007-02-01 21:04:21
Posted by demtse
I get enough childish humor by reading books to my children at night.
Posted by Kingfisher
2007-02-01 21:33:50
Posted by libliever
2007-02-01 21:56:57
I was going to take issue with your take on the Miami Cubans at Castro's death, but I saw your second comment on the topic. But, my question is how can you separate the two issues. The communist regime is largely propped up by a cult of personality around Castro. His death would effectively amount to the beginning of the end, much as the collapse of the Iron Curtain was the beginning of the end for Soviet communism.
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-01 22:07:17
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-01 22:10:01
Huck, You are a mostly reasonable guy.
Laying all of the bitter, deranged crackpots (from both sides) to the side for a second, I think if the "right" side of the issues were clearly identified, you would be more apt to be in agreement with their position more often than you'd probably think.
In my mind the conservative position should always be for supporting state's rights on social issues. (as long as it doesn't infringe on another state)
In that respect, I think that people dubbed "social conservatives" are in reality, social liberals. Even though I agree with most of their positions on a personal level, I do not believe it is the Federal govt's right to impose social laws on states.
I know that won't make me popular with some here....Sorry
Posted by Mr_Meaner
2007-02-01 22:31:40
True. I'll admit Castro is a special case, since the country has been under his thumb for nearly fifty years.
But I think that is the more important issue. Whether it's the beginning of the end. Or whether the small group of Castrites will hold onto to power by any means necessary. We shall see. There's no way Castro can last much longer. I give him a year at most.
Posted by D-Vega
2007-02-01 22:47:46
But Molly Ivins? Who cheers for one less echo in the chamber pot?
I'm sorry she died but I don't believe for a minute the comments weren't exactly what you describe... 'Mobying'.
Just like the 'But'-heads that call up talk radio and say "I used to be a (R)epublican but..."
Posted by DANEgerus
2007-02-01 22:48:35
Posted by D-Vega
2007-02-01 23:13:00
"We are the deciders"
RIP
Posted by Let_It_Be
2007-02-01 23:43:30
NO TEARS
Posted by Riteaidbob
2007-02-02 01:26:17
Posted by Riteaidbob
2007-02-02 01:27:21
Only the scum.
Posted by CavalierX
2007-02-02 02:39:18
So you Liberals even want to regulate people's feelings now. They're not allowed to celebrate the death of the man who destroyed everything they held dear; joy is only approved when celebrating a more impersonal event. Scratch a Liberal, find a totalitarian.
Posted by CavalierX
2007-02-02 06:47:42
Only the scum.
I'm going to throw a party and dress up like an emperor and hire a clown dressed like him to speak in non-intelligible sentences like " fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, I won't be fooled again, he, he (smirk, shoulder shrug)"
Posted by demtse
2007-02-02 07:22:51
Posted by MediumHeadBoy
2007-02-02 07:37:33
February 2, 2007 7:25 AM
Nobody here cares what you think so why don't you go away?
Posted by i_b_perky
2007-02-02 08:04:23
Posted by i_b_perky February 2, 2007 8:04 AM
Think? You have given him WAY too much credit.
Posted by jasamc
2007-02-02 08:47:38
Who said that? I did not say they should be arrested or fined.
I would not say they are not allowed. But they are not above criticism either.
Getting married or graduating or having a baby or getting a new job or your country being freed is personal.
If that's the case, I command you to scratch a little lower.
Posted by D-Vega
2007-02-02 11:00:58
As I said...
Posted by CavalierX
2007-02-02 11:18:50
And that's the only way you know of regulating people's behavior? Please, I know you know better. I said regulate, not legislate.
Not without gloves.
Posted by CavalierX
2007-02-02 11:20:54
Haven't you heard? George Bush made a deal with the JOOOOOS for their secret imortality serum. He's never going to die.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by mightysamurai
2007-02-02 12:16:09
Posted by drstrangeloveb52isok
2007-02-02 16:15:09
Posted by MediumHeadBoy
2007-02-02 17:41:07
Posted by drstrangeloveb52isok
2007-02-03 01:53:39
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Best-selling author and columnist Molly Ivins, the sharp-witted liberal who skewered the political establishment and referred to Prsident Bush as “Shrub,” died at 62..
NOTE: She was the most vicious ranting liberal I ever read. Every article was a litany of factless assertations, bashes, name-calling and baloney.
A true modern angry secular socialist with not a realistic solution for anything of significance (expect more secular socialism). She made a living as a political “Don Rickles”. Not impressed with her pseudo-contributions. This AP article about her is biased (inaccurate as expected). Somebody should write about her death in her style. (as she would gleefully do for any conservative or Repub President or anyone she spat her venom on without evidence). Thank God most writers have a lot more class than she ever displayed.
Posted by reelman
2007-02-04 13:53:38
Wow.
If the AP thinks that is an example of "Sharp wit," then the kid I knew back in 5th grade that the way to get a girl to have sex with you was to "rubber balls and liquor" must have been a veritable junior Shakespeare, in their view...
Posted by CoolCzech
2007-02-04 13:57:44
Posted by AScientist
2007-02-05 10:49:43