Yeah, it’s temping to toy with fantasy when your favorite team is in an impossible situation and up against the team you really hate.

I remember the die hard liberal who sat next to me in 1972. In late October he was obsessed with putting together wild impossible electoral college result combinations which would hand McGovern the Presidency over Nixon.

PSO, nothing is impossible. If we lose this vote, we will challenge it in court. And we will have a very strong case, given the shady nature of this vote. We know that this bill will substantially change America, and not for the better. That is why we will fight it to the very end. Because we realize that, to the Dems, this is not about helping people. This is about power, plain and simple. The Dems, who never met a government expansion they didn’t like have a rare opportunity to hijack a substantial portion of our nation’s economy. They have an opportunity to further intrude into people’s lives. To tell Americans they must have health coverage acceptable to the federal government or else. To tell insurance companies they no longer have choice who they can have as customers.

We did not fight a Cold War against communism for half a century only to have some idiot leftists jam it down our throat. That is why we will fight and fight and fight until the people realize the damage the left is doing to this country. Some of them already have reached this realization. They will express it in November. And that is why legislators are scared. They know that the magic is gone. They know that for all the speeches,they elected a man who was not prepared for the job. A man who still talks as if he is still campaigning. It is one thing to pursue the championship belt. It is another thing entirely to be the champion. Obama made a great contender, but he has proven to be a lousy champion. And that is why the Dem legislators are starting to pull away from The One. Because they know following him on his naive and destructive policies is a highway to Hell, rather than a stairway to Heaven.

Or the vote passes Obama jumps 10-15 points in the polls. You guys lose your ass in court. Obama cruises to a second term. To the chants of “yes we did.”

Dr. Clouthier,
Using a metaphor from an animated “movie” (cartoon) seems almost too simple. While the message is spot-on, I only wish we had the guarantee of “the good guys” winning in the end (which, let’s face it, we all knew The Incredibles were going to pull it off). Bravery in real life requires the sort of determination that will stand up for what is right no matter what the perceived outcome may be (in our particular case, it appears to be getting grimmer).

The American people, I believe, don’t know who they are. The “defining moment” for our microwave society occurred nearly 10 years ago and that has turned into a festering political wound because of incompetence (Gitmo, detainees, arguing over whether they were “combatants” or not). Even so, the “American identity” that they received then does not necessarily carry over into the realm of health care policy.

What most people probably need is for a leader to emerge on the opposing side with a clear set of convictions that resonates and the ability to make the complicated plans of evil men seem simple to understand. Direct attacks on lies (like the one about this plan “saving” money, HA!) and clear concise alternatives (like HSA’s) will help sway away from this push toward socialization.

There isn’t anything fancy about this bill or the Dems’ push to pass it. It is a bare-knuckled political fight (as partisan as it can possibly get) that has yielded the most one-sided, dirty, back-room deal-laden, pork-filled take-over that many have ever seen. To reasonable people it seems anything but reasonable. To those with socialist or communist ideals, it seems like the best idea they’ve ever seen. But telling the two sides to “fight, win” would have been akin to reminding the Soviets to distrust the Americans.

Obama cruises to a second term. To the chants of “yes we bent over and grabbed the ankles!”
Posted by Healthcare4all
2010-03-20 03:08:0

Couldn’t resist, Jack Shiite.

If you’re so sure of victory why change your user ID now?

“Or the vote passes Obama jumps 10-15 points in the polls.”

In what world exactly, does Obambi jump 10-15 points in polls by pushing a bill on us that is about as popular nationwide as a scorching case of the Clap?

The congressional Dems are already headed for electoral oblivion this November because of their parliamentary chicanery, and somehow, you think that the jug-eared idiot man-child in the oval office–who by the way is basing his entire presidency on this unpopular plan–is somehow exempt for the voters’ ire? Safe money is on Obambi having poll numbers that would make Bush 43 look like George Washington by comparison.

You libs really are detached from reality. I almost feel sorry for you.

Or the vote passes Obama jumps 10-15 points in the polls.

Right….becuase every person that has ever tanked their poll numbers trying to steal something, all of the sudden got a huge jump, when it was finally stolen.

You guys lose your ass in court.

The scotus will tell you the same thing we have been….if you dont have the votes, ITS A NO GO.

Obama cruises to a second term. To the chants of “yes we did.”
Posted by Healthcare4all
2010-03-20 03:08:00

Smokin pot in the BMW while on break from the fortune 500 company as an exec.

Healthcare4all

Except for those 12-15 million people that dont have it and still wont have it.

All your doing is forcing those that already qualify for medicare or medicaid, can afford it, or dont want it….to buy it. You have accomplished nothing, but what your superiors where trying to do all along. Take over the way care is given for votes. Shame.

I think its safe to say everybody that has ever been dropped or had healthcare priced above what they can afford is a dem vote now. I think that’s what really scares you.
Posted by Healthcare4all
2010-03-20 19:13:04

Um, those people are most likely already dem voters. Plus, since reality isn’t what you think it is, this is actually a much smaller group than you think it is. In fact, it is much much smaller than the group of people who’ve had health insurance and health care which will both decline in quality and probably become republicans (under your hypothesis).

Time will tell. I think its safe to say everybody that has ever been dropped or had healthcare priced above what they can afford is a dem vote now. I think that’s what really scares you.

Obviously, you didn’t read tblrk’s statement. 12-15 million will remain uninsured AFTER it passes. I guess you cannot read English very well.

not Jack BTW, and you couldn’t pay me to drive a BMW.

No, you’re not “jack” but you are “jack shit.” Thank you for playing, we have some nice parting gifts for you.

Posted by Healthcare4all
2010-03-20 19:13:04

Its not an assumption. O himself said that the same REAL number of uninsureds will still remain without insurance. You know how I know you are jack shit? B/C you have the same bullshit notion that “all” these people are losing insurance or are getting premiums hiked…..and that all them THINK the govt has a better plan. haha.