DXXX IT JANET…GET REAL!
“Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim who reportedly expressed growing dismay over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
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Its way past time that the secular socialist party (aka democrats) stop the distractions (aka straw dogs) as far as islamic domestic terrorists!
Bill Klinton did nothing but embolden the cultist islamic murderers but now the PC-diversity-islamophilic democrats are at the end of sanity.
The islamics are NOT victims so stop painting those that choose to come here, be educated here and work here under our freedoms as some sort of “victim”. Who do you think you are fooling?
Its not about the media stress template, its not about being a moslem, its not about Iraq…its about the decades-old jihad against America trumpeted by pseudo-clergy across this nation week after week under the guise of “peace or love”.
Can you imagine any christian religion here acting on “death to infidels” in their Bible and getting a “lib pass” over and over as they kill innocents and kill innocents again?
This bootlicking and excuse-making for any “pet minority” by democrats has got to stop. This moslem nutcase was known for months but due to PC-ism (aka liberalism)…nobody risked the wrath of what the truth would bring upon them.
Obama has appointed so many radicals that we can expect a torrent of excuse-making and America-bashing instead of taking nationwide precautions against this deliberate organized hate that always leads to the murder of innocents. Yes, profile them 24-7.
If terror had a 25 year history of being done by a “Norwegian Zion-Pentacostal Church member” (for example) then what is wrong about profiling that group 24-7?
Even Hollywood loons fear any islamic insults so movies are cleansed while the cultists demand America change schools and the workplace to accommodate their ways.
Do you see massive condemnation of this mass murderer by CAIR and such via the media this week? What does that tell you?
One thing you can count on…the modern liberal never runs out of excuses…. or into reality.
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His role in the military had nothing to do with his frame of mind and it’s all due to big bad Islam? Surely you jest.
Posted by Jack Schite
2009-11-09 13:07:18

Surely you can’t be stupid enaough to beleive otherwise? How did his role in the Army have anything to do with his killing spree? How Jack Auf?

There, fixed that for ya.
Posted by Realpolitik
2009-11-09 13:13:54

It was right the first time. Hasan is a radical muslim who committed an act of terror.

I’ve seen a report that Hasan shaved his head before committing this attack. If he shaved everything else, then there is no other explanation than an Islamic terror attack.

Wrap his carcas in pigskin when he gets burried and let all know that this will happen to any other followers of the religion of peace that try something like this.

It wasn’t a war on Islam until Islam declared war on us. Now it is.
Posted by Rorschach 2009-11-09 13:34:42

Islam declared war on the West and on infidels centuries ago. It is about time we woke up and took the fight to them. Apologists for this POS Hasan make me sick!

Ditto that. You don’t see Army majors flying airplanes loaded with innocents into buildings loaded with innocents.

The Baud, let me be clear. You are correct, they have declared war on everyone who is not muslim, and they did so centuries ago. My point was that we did not consider ourselves at war with them until we were directly attacked. In fact, it was not very long ago that we were supplying supplies and arms to Al Queda in their fight against a soviet invasion. We thought we were being helpful and supportive in their bid for freedom, but that kindness was thrown back in our faces.

Yes, I would have to agree. Hasan became a sick animal of the same types who do it all over the world. I think even putting it as “Radical Muslim” is softening it.

I disagree that we should indict the entire religion, or the entire muslim contigent of our military, due to the actions of this deranged individual.

But it is indeed factually correct that he became, or was, a muslim homicidal maniac. That is, a muslim fully willing to kill non-muslims in order to further a political agenda.

I disagree that we should indict the entire religion, or the entire muslim contigent of our military, due to the actions of this deranged individual.

Posted by D-Vega 2009-11-09 14:18:29

Right, individual! How many ‘individual’ muslims have to kill Americans for the Left wakes up from their stupor and joins the Right in this fight?

Nidal Hasan Killed Those People Because He’s A Radical Major.

There, fixed that for ya.

Posted by Realpolitik
2009-11-09 13:13:54

Still trying to pass off schoolboy wordplay in the place of cogent comment, I see. What a fraud.

And based upon the number of Muslims in the world, that is hundreds of thousands millions, D-Vega. The part you don’t get is that it is not just a few random individuals, but an entire subsection of a perverted and hatefilled religion.

FTFY

And the condemnation from American Muslims have be definitive and widespread.
Posted by D-Vega 2009-11-09 14:53:08

Then I would greatly appreciate you sharing those with us, because I have yet to hear even a single one that did not equivocate and defend Hasan, or blame anyone other than Islam for his actions.

Hmmmmmm…how long before you start calling for concentration camps to deal with the Muslims in America?

My biggest qualms with Islam are its inability to be modified or reformed – codified in the koran; its adherence to 6th century tribalism and misogyny; its hard coded bigotry; it’s insistence that it must exist above all other religions; and the hideous perversions Wahhabi added to the religion inspired by Nazism and then spread throughout the world.

Islam is an ideology that is written to control every aspect of an adherent’s life and disobedience to that control results in Infidel status and damnation -aided by a headsman’s dull machete or a mob’s stones. Its demands for obedience and penalty ridden codex ensure Muslim slavery under its rule. Its design is tailor made to expand its control over larger and larger demographics -through the sword, birth or conversion- until world wide Caliphate is realized just in time for the appearance of the Mahdi.

Posted by Huron_Serenity
2009-11-09 15:32:37

Honestly? Probably very shortly after those 7th Century rejects detonate an atomic weapon in one of our cities.

Oh, wait, you were being cute. Get a clue, the problem is ISLAM, not “radical” Islam, just ISLAM. It’s based upon the idea that if you’re not a muslim, then you’re nothing but a target to be killed. There are no such things as “moderate” muslims, just muslims and apostates, so get that idea out of your head right now, it’s just going to get more people killed.

Posted by Huron_Serenity
2009-11-09 15:32:37

So stating the fact that followers of Islam, including Hasan, have committed terrorist acts against the US is calling for concentration camps. Bill Ayers called for camps for conservatives, yet you did not condemn him. Typical hypocritical POS liberal that you are.

I do not agree it is a perverted and hatefilled religion.
D-Vega

Nixon agrees with you. It is a pagan death cult.

Concentration camps? There is no need for that. But we are fighting this war in the wrong way. The way to defeat an enemy is to use overwhelming force and brutal methods that would prevent them from even thinking about trying anything again. We have to use their own belief system against them. They must know that the consequences for their actions would bring a price so high that they would never think about doing those sorts of activities.

In this case of Hasan, not only should we desecrate his body after death by placing it in pigskin, but his remaining relatives should be deported from the USA and sent back to the hell hole they came from. THis would deprive him from his 72 virgins and know that his families life would be ruined by his actions.

In the middle east, the same should be done to the bodies of the jihadi atackers. The jihadis have no problem with desecrating the bodies of our soldiers. THey should know the same will happen to them. The villages they come from should be razed. Let them know that their actions will have much harsher consequences. Yes, I understand that this type of retribution goes against our western ideals, but do we want to win or do we just want to continue to be attacked like this forever? We have to make the price of terrorism so high that they simply don’t want to do it anymore.

but his remaining relatives should be deported from the USA and sent back to the hell hole they came from. THis would deprive him from his 72 virgins and know that his families life would be ruined by his actions.

Posted by BIG
2009-11-09 16:24:04

Since Hasan was an American citizen by birth it would be hard to deport anyone except maybe his parents. His siblings are most likely American citizens as well since they were born here, you could deport his parents, but why would you, they have committed no crime and under our system of law we would have no reason to deport them.

Raising a radical enemy to the United States within our borders strikes me as a pretty good reason to look into his parents and consider deporting them based on the results of the investigation.

He came by his ideology somehow and if he, like most Muslims worldwide, was indoctrinated from the crib to hate infidels, then a good case of child abuse and resultant deportation certainly could be in order.

You failed history as well, the ACLU was one of the few organizations that spoke out against the internment camps, really you shouldnt remain so ignorant Baud.
Posted by whats_up 2009-11-09 16:35:23

Do try to learn a little history before displaying your ignorance, whats_up. That ACLU was in favor of the internments. It is true that the California Chapter of the ACLU was one organization that opposed to internments, but that was done without the backing of the natioonal ACLU, who threatned to pull their charter for going against the wishes of the organization.

It was a Democrat President, with the backing of a Democrat Congress and the National ACLU that resulted in the internment of the Japanese during WWII.

You have been schooled. Now go outside and play, little bitch!

no matter how many times you say it, the ACLU was not for internment camps, they represented the Japanese all the way to the Supreme Court, do try and keep up sparky.
Posted by whats_up 2009-11-09 16:46:50

Typical Leftist revisionists history. Do some research and get back with me, whats_up.

Or just keep spouting your usual BS and live in ignorance. I could care less.

Then muslims shouldnt be granted constitutional rights…

Posted by tblrk2006
2009-11-09 16:49:18

They should if they are US citizens.

A lot of the comments I see are EXACTLY the reason why I said what I said.

How do you come up with it being a “political agenda”??? For crying out loud it’s 1,000% a RELIGIOUS MOTIVATION!!!!!!!!!

Religion is politics, Major. We are not really in that much disagreement here. Fundamentalist Violent Islam is the motivation behind the mass murder. His goal however, I would guess, is to send a message about American troops killing muslims around the world. As I understand it, it was what he was rambling abou beforehand. Therefore, there is a political motivation here, as there is in most terrorist attacks.

They should if they are US citizens.
Posted by whats_up
2009-11-09 16:51:58

And how do they become US citizens? As the 14th Amendment points out, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

See that part about “…and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”? The muslim belief that Sharia law overrules national law means that they are not subject to the jurisdiction of this land, therefore they are not eligible for citizenship PER THE CONSTITUTION!

These people are not subject to our laws due to their religion so we owe them nothing when it comes to citizenship. It’s that simple.

His goal however, I would guess, is to send a message about American troops killing muslims around the world.

Muslim terrorists Vega? Since that is the only people we are fighting.

John,

That you even have a need for the focus of your column is very telling and pathetic 8 years after 9/11. Hell, it’s telling 30 years after the hostages were taken in Iran.

Pluralism is one thing, continuing with a perverted notion that leftist jihadist sympathizers automatically deserve a seat at the table of discussion is quite another. Far too long have leftists been given some sort of legitimacy in their deluded viewpoints. All this serves is either to delay what we know will have to be done to stop the madness, and/or to poisons the minds of otherwise intelligent but distracted or relatively disinterested parties. The unholy alliance leftists have with muslim radicals is well past time to be immediately dismissed as even remotely legitimate, and both forces of these evil ideologies must ultimately be destroyed. People are dying because leftists and muslim radicals are allowed to mask their illegitimate ideology behind political correctness, another way of saying their nihilistic, evil viewpoints have merit. They do not, and must be dismissed out of hand.

John,

That you even have a need for the focus of your column is very telling and pathetic 8 years after 9/11. Hell, it’s telling 30 years after the hostages were taken in Iran.

Pluralism is one thing, continuing with a perverted notion that leftist jihadist sympathizers automatically deserve a seat at the table of discussion is quite another. Far too long have leftists been given some sort of legitimacy in their deluded viewpoints. All this serves is either to delay what we know will have to be done to stop the madness, and/or to poisons the minds of otherwise intelligent but distracted or relatively disinterested parties. The unholy alliance leftists have with muslim radicals is well past time to be immediately dismissed as even remotely legitimate, and both forces of these evil ideologies must ultimately be destroyed. People are dying because leftists and muslim radicals are allowed to mask their illegitimate ideology behind political correctness, another way of saying their nihilistic, evil viewpoints have merit. They do not, and must be dismissed out of hand.
Posted by regularguy
2009-11-09 17:19:27

Spot on and well-stated.

Major_O,

Point taken. You’re right. It’s sadly necessary to convince the American people of such common sense, but here we are. We most certainly cannot entertain leftism and be safe.

Posted by DCS
2009-11-09 17:09:34

Thats not how it works DCS, I know many Christians that believe Gods law is above national law, are we not to count them as citizens now? If you were born in the United States or have legally become a citizen of this country then you are entilted to the Constitution’s protection, regardless of what your relegious beliefs are, its good to know that you think its okay to deny the Constitution to US Citizens based on their relegion, better make sure that yours isnt the next one targeted.

from a website that actively encourages people to harm the President of the United States of America.
Posted by Huron_Serenity
2009-11-09 19:14:42

Ah, Nixon sees you are a regular at Ko$ and Democrat Underground. Lots of pro death to Bush people there over the last few years. Thankfully, that shit isn’t allowed at RWN.

Of course, this isn’t surprising coming from a website that actively encourages people to harm the President of the United States of America.
Posted by Huron_Serenity
2009-11-09 19:14:42

WTF are you talking about, retard? Seriously, where do you see anyone actually encouraging such a thing?

Posted by whats_up
2009-11-09 19:23:55

See, this is what passes for an intelligent Liberal now. If you actually knew any Christians, you would know that while part of what you say is true (we do consider ourselves obligated to follow God’s law above natural law), you would also know that part of God’s law is a commandment to obey the laws of our land, live in peace with our neighbors and pray for our leaders because that is who God has set over us. It’s only when our rulers have gone directly against God’s laws that we have any right to disobey them, and then we have a very limited range of options.

If you actually knew any Christians, you would know this, but yet again you’ve been caught in a half-truth brought on by your own willful ignorance.

Besides that, you ignored the main point of my first post. Just because you don’t want what is written in the Constitution to be true doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. It says what it says and, in this case, being a muslim is at direct odds with being an American. You can’t have it both ways.

Posted by DCS
2009-11-10 08:01:50

See, this is what passes for an intelligent Liberal now.

Sorry, DCS, but palming off whats_up as an intelligent anything undermines your argument.

It says what it says…

Posted by DCS
2009-11-10 08:01:50

Sure does, and know where in the Constitution does it say that if you are Muslim then it wont apply. Please point out to me anywhere in the Constititution that it states if you are of a certian relegion then you can have your rights taken away. The Constitution applies to all US citizens regardless of their relegious beliefs, despite what your ilk would like to do. Germany did that once too, singled out a religion, look what it gave us.

Please describe what rights Muslims in America have had taken away. Be thorough. Remember that just because your religion allows or mandates something that the law doesn’t, the law wins.

Posted by smelvertising
2009-11-10 10:55:22

Perhaps you should follow along more closly, their rights havent been taken away YET, DCS believes that Muslims should be put in camps, do you agree? Try keeping up.

DCS was discussing citizenship, whats_up. DCS did not say that Muslims should be put into camps. The voices in your head must be pretty loud.
Posted by TheBaud
2009-11-10 12:06:22

You’re right, its hard to keep you and your ilk seperate, DCS just believes that Muslims who are US citizens shouldnt be granted the protections of the Constitution based on their relegion, it was tblrk2006 who wants to put Muslims in camps.

Again, DCS was discussing whether Muslims should be considered citizens, whats_up. The posts are right there, no need to lie.

Posted by TheBaud
2009-11-10 13:17:48

And he believes that they shouldnt be based on their relegion, and as such dont deserve the protection of the Constitution, the posts are right there and that is clearly what he said. Now you have an opportunity to disagree with him or not, do you believe that Muslims who are American Citizens deserve the protections of the Constitution or not?

Now you have an opportunity to disagree with him or not, do you believe that Muslims who are American Citizens deserve the protections of the Constitution or not?
Posted by whats_up 2009-11-10 13:22:54

Yes, they do, so long as they are citizens.

But to DCS’s point, which you lyingly continue to avoid… should there come a time when a Muslim or group of Muslims turn their back on America and actively fight against our laws and our way of life, that citizenship should be revoked… WHICH WAS DCS’s POINT.

And before you go out on another of your pathetic lectures and irrelevant tangents, I believe that should apply to ANYONE that actively fights against our laws and our way of life, regardless of religion or political affiliation!

Muslim soliders don’t have to do anything that we don’t already ask of our soliders.

Follow the laws & rule, be loyal to your country, don’t shoot anyone. Plain & simple.

And how many more Hasan’s are there in our military right now, saying and doing the same things, D-Vega? How many have been reported and that information is sitting on some burocrat’s desk, going no where? How many more American servicemen and women have to die before we put a stake in the heart of political correctness?
Posted by TheBaud
2009-11-10 13:40:51

Let’s not even discuss the many black soldiers that are Nation Of Islam types that aren’t too far from this. At the least, they are very likely to be disgruntled and to view the current GWOT as a “white man’s war for conquest and oil” and to view the terrorists as at least partly justified. As a black military officer myself, I run into folks like this on occasion and it has always concerned me.

Ditto the jails, where NOI has been fairly successful among the black population.

Whats your answer Baud? Not allowing Muslim to serve based on their relegion? How exactly would you solve this problem?
Posted by whats_up 2009-11-10 13:59:15

Seriously, whats_up, stop putting words in peoples mouths. It is boring and shows what a pathetic dunce you are.

On a case-by-case basis. The Muslim over there is serving this country proudly and with honor, while the Muslim right here is preaching jihad and demonstrating his hatred of America. It should be OK to say “You are not fit to be a soldier” without the race-card or the religion-card being played and ending the situation.

But that might harm “diversity” or hurt a protected-groups precious feelings. And you would NEVER allow that to happen, would you whats_up?

I think its a pretty sad indication that an obvious jihadi trying to contact al`Qaeda wasn’t drummed out of the military. Clearly, the same PC police who want gays to be ignored think diversity and inclusion is of a higher need than troop stability, morale, and cohesion.

That’s what happens when you have social engineers making decisions rather than soldiers.