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Christine O’Donnell Wins And The GOP Rages Against The ~~Machine~~ People

Written By : Melissa Clouthier

When the GOP started attacking Christine O’Donnell fiercely a couple weeks back, I figured she must be up in the internal polling. In fact, I figured she’d win. And tonight, in a race that stunned nearly everyone but Christine O’Donnell and her very motivated followers, she did just that.

What I wasn’t sure about, was how Mike Castle and the GOP would respond. Well, now we know. The NRSC, off the record of course, said they won’t support Christine O’Donnell. That’s unsurprising. What’s intemperate and indicates that the Republican establishment types have no use for working with other grassroots winners was their timing and nature of their announcement. Staffers talking behind the scenes? Really? This is being handled poorly and is like snapping a red towel in front of a raging bull.

In addition, Karl Rove went through a leftist talking points list about Christine O’Donnell’s perceived failings–all relatively minor quibbles as Sean Hannity pointed out–on Fox tonight. Well, okay then. I suspect that he 1) likes and worked for and with Castle and was personally disappointed and 2) hates losing with a passion and believes Christine will lose come November. Either way, it sits wrong with conservatives and will probably create more distance between the GOP and the base, if that were possible.

Here’s what one Christine O’Donnell supporter said about his meeting with Karl Rove via The Right Scoop (where all juicy video goodness comes from):

So, there’s that.

Now, Mike Castle, the beloved 70 year old Christine O’Donnell competitor says he won’t support O’Donnell and gets snarky:

As to whether the national party would back O’Donnell, a Castle campaign source said the campaign has no knowledge of their thinking but said “they should save their money.”

A couple thoughts about all this:

1. I agree with this assessment.

2. My electoral priority is Sharron Angle. Period. End of story. If I had to choose which Senatorial race I want to win, it’s that one.

3. Anyone can win in this environment. Anyone.

4. The G.O.P. created a situation where the new American electorate feel so insulted, they’ve ceased to be interested in voting for a long-time, unresponsive politician. The Republican party got fat and lazy during the Bush tenure. They increasingly got tone deaf. They didn’t develop and bring along nice Republican candidates. They rejected new blood and actively worked against it. I know this for a damn straight fact. What to do? The only solution is to infuse the part with new blood that means pissing off a lot of people who feel entitled. It’s inevitable.

5. It’s going to get worse after November 2. There’s much jostling politically, to be done. And the fight for the ideological soul of the part has just begun.

6. Had Castle won, the grassroots would have unified behind him. The charity clearly doesn’t go both ways. With each successive primary loss, the Republicans at the top have gotten increasingly shrill, desperate and angry-acting. Charlie Crist runs as an independent. Toomey, who we were told would never win, leads. Lisa Murkowski still dabbles in a write-in candidacy.

Here’s the deal, the Republican establishment are in a double-bind. They want power back soooo badly, but they do not want to have support the people that the voters chose. With each successive race lost, their frustration builds. And yet, they need these candidates in order to get their coveted power desires fulfilled. So yes, they make some crazy decisions and are acting emotional and irrational and very, very angry.

7. It’s not just conservative grassroots. I keep seeing this mistake made and it’s a big one. The Republican party, the Democrats, the conventional wisdom, the media all seem to think that the Tea Party is some aberration of the conservative base. This is wrong. This phenomenon is an American one and cuts across many constituencies. The perception is that D.C. is so screwed up, that anyone new will be better.

When the Republicans in DC disrespect Christine O’Donnell’s win, they reinforce the notion that they are all about keeping their power at all costs. This, in turn, reinforces the fact that they’re completely disconnected from the will of the American people.

Anyway, onward and upward. November 2 is too far away, I fear. More fear and loathing to come.

Congratulations, Christine O’Donnell, on your historic win. Best of luck in Delaware! Best of luck to all Republican nominees.

Proud Infidel

I truly wonder who's having the biggest hissyfits, the GOP “Country Club Elite” establisment, or the moonbats? The RNC “good 'ole boy” bunch as well as the others seriously need to remove their craniums from their lower posteriors and stand by those who have truly been nominated by grassroots efforts and quit attempting to shove “DNC light” types down our throats that get drunk on DC Kool-Aid and turn RINO on us once they're in office! The voters have awakened en masse in the past few years, and Karl Rove, Michael Steele, and the rest of the self-anointed royalty in the RNC need to wake up and listen to what people are saying, or we need to throw them out on their hindquarters!!

baoxian

Judging from the amount of trolling by the usual suspects, the left seems to be unusually (but predictably) enraged by Castle's defeat.

That fact that voters have awakened and are not playing the “moderate” game any more makes them very, very, angry.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Trolling != Disagreement

Trolling would be along the lines of “wow, spoke out against masturbation, next thing you know she's caught in an airport getting some alone time. lol conservative values”

http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OZBTYQK5MN5SKP6FA6KK4TJOQ4 MichaelAlan

? Make sense or shut up if you don't have anything to contribute. You don't have to chime in on every single post.
Rose

Troll.

Proud Infidel

Another reason the moonbat left and the “establishment” types dislike and outright hate the Tea Party movement is that their playbook calls for character assassination and dividing groups against themselves, especially on the left. They've never had to deal with a tsunami of awakened voters like this at any time in recent history. Sure, the masses have fallen for a slick-brush snake oil salesman, our [wannabe] Emperor being the best example, but the voters have spoken, and NO hissyfit from the moonbats OR the DC insiders is going to change that!!

Bao, I'm certain that the Tea Party is here to stay, it's a true-blue grassroots movement full of people that look at the facts and think for themselves, they don't recite talking points or think as they're told to like lefties do!!

Lee

The people who voted for Christine O'Donnell (and those like-minded in other states) want someone with conservative values. Party afflliation is not the top priority. To borrow a well-worn slogan, “it's the values, stupid.” Not all Republicans have conservative values, which is why Republicans took in beating in 2006 and 2008. I don't think the GOP establishment really understands this; they're out of touch with reality (which is another reason they don't get the votes).

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

It's not the values, it's the inability of the party to form a cohesive plan and path forward. When the party philosophy is currently one of cut the deficit by cutting spending and taxes, while increasing the size of the military, I have no choice but to vote Democrat. Sadly enough, I think even 8th graders can see the problems in that plan, but Republican voters cannot.

StanW

There is no problem with that plan. The problem comes in the Democrat/Danny plan:
1) Cut spending on National Defense
2) Increase taxes on the people earning the money
3) Give all that money to people that produce NOTHING for America but votes for you and your ilk.

That is unsustainable as we have seen throughout history. Not that you care in the least!

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Actually, that's the philosophy we used from the end of the Depression until Reagan took office. The time when America was the dominant economic force in the world. The only problem is, Republicans see #3 as giving it to people that produce nothing, without understanding it is giving it to the people that produce everything. The lower 95% do all the real work, the real spending, the real American activities. Cut their taxes, and everyone wins.

StanW

Everyone doesn't win, Danny, that's the point. The uppoer 5%, who are paying the bulk of the taxes, may decide to take their money and go somewhere else. Then what do you use to give to the 95%? The 5% also produce. They produce jobs and good and capital and WEALTH. You take away their incentive to do all that and you have NOTHING.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

The business still has to be done in America. They move the company, they pay excise taxes reducing their profit. So which do you think the company will do? Move the company, reducing their profit, or tell the executive, “we pay you well, do your job, the company is staying here”. How many corporations will move when you tax their executives? A big fat ZERO. They only care about the taxes at the corporate level.
StanW

The company MIGHT stay here, although some have moved. What is more likely is that the factories and the plants and the call centers will move overseas, putting more of your precious 95% OUT OF WORK.

Do you econimic theories sound better in your head? Because when you type them out, you sound like a moron.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Why MIGHT the company stay here? Raising personal income taxes has absolutely zero effect on the company. In fact, it is more likely to benefit the company, since they now have an incentive to pay the executive less, so less of their revenue is going to the government. They pay less, they keep more, they give more to shareholders, company is then very happy.

For all the pro capitalism talk on this board, you have a serious lack of understanding of what personal income taxes mean to a company. (pro hint: they don't mean anything)
StanW

Personal income taxes mean nothing to a company? For an example of a serious lack of understanding, consult your nearest mirror.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

The only time they matter to a company is if raising them prevents people from spending on their products. Since the upper 5% don't spend all their income, raising their tax rates won't matter. But lowering taxes on the 95%, who spend most of their income? That will matter.

But just for fun, what impact do personal income taxes have on a company?
StanW

Since the upper 5% don't spend all their income

First, since they earned it, it is none of your business what they do with it.
Second, they don't spend it all, THEY INVEST IT, which makes both their money AND the economy grow. How much does the economy grow when you take their money and give it to the local crack-whore?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

1) Investing can occur in a couple of ways, assuming all the money stays in the US: Savings (can lead to economy growth), IPOs (growth), stocks (no growth), hedge fund/REIT (maybe growth).
2) Not all unspent income stays in the US. I'm still at about 25% of my portfolio international, just because it's still a great risk/growth option.
3) Additional growth investment is needed if capital isn't available
4) There is approximately $2 trillion dollars in unused capital waiting to be lent (VC/Banks).

Combine all of these, and giving more money for investment won't translate into economic growth.
StanW

And you still missed the two key points to what I posted, Danny.
1) You failed to say how taking that money and lettign the government spend it translates into economic growth
2) IT'S THEIR MONEY, NOT THE GOVERNMENTS.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

1) I didn't say give it to the government. I said lower taxes on the 95% even more, offsetting it with additional taxes on the upper 5%.
2) It's not their money, it's the workers driving their business. Without the workers, they wouldn't be making that money.
StanW

It's not their money? REALLY?

We are done here, Danny. That statement alone says all we need to know about your knowledge of economics.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Feel free to try to run a multi-million dollar business by yourself. I was going to say that wasn't a hedge fund or stock trading system, but I don't think you could get multi-million revenues alone even with those.
TheDickNixon

As a fry cook, where do you see a million at? On that sign about how many people you have served?
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

When it's a small business and the owners taxes come out of the profits, the impact is HUGE.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

If those people were all so productive they wouldn't need hand outs, danny-boy! And no the lower 95% don't do all the real work the upper 40% does. That upper 40% is the actual working adults, while the non-working retirees, children, and welfare recipients get paid to do nothing, and to many of them are getting paid with tax dollars stolen form that 40%!!!

When fully 15% of all wage earners pay no taxes and most even get paid tax credits, there is major problem with calling that an equitable or even viable situation. the next tier the true middle class does all the real work but gets hosed with 20+% taxes to support the first 15% and the retirees. Then that top 5% pays almost all the taxes left to pay, gets screwed coming and going because they pay SSI and Medicare taxes but can never reap a benefit, and you think they don't pay ENOUGH??!?!?

Your world view is skewed, and your sense of justice and equity would make Marx proud.

True Blue

The people you accuse of doing nothing have seen their work moved overseas to benefit the wealthy business owners, so not only do they lack jobs, but society has lost their spending power which is the fuel for our economic system.

The bottom has fallen out of the republican economic plan, in effect since 1980, and you have pointed out why, without even realizing you have done so. You are typical of people with your ideology.

StanW

I just said that exact same thing, you idiot. When you put a massive tax burden on the upper 5%, they save money by moving their businesses overseas, putting MORE people out of work.

Do pay attention, and maybe you'll appear less stupid.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Once again, if you tax personal income higher, but not corporate income higher, which business is going to move overseas, reducing profits due to import taxes and shipping costs to get their goods back to the US?

You can tax personal income all you want, and the only effect it will have is lowering executive pay (why have it taxed higher when the corporation can keep it, return it to shareholders, or pay employees more). You touch corporate taxes, then you'll see businesses move.
StanW

So now you want to differentiate between personal and corporate taxes, do you. Put the goalpost down, Danny. They were fine where they were.

You and your ilk have already touched corporate taxes, Danny. What do you suppose will happen next?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Well considering that personal income tax rates are different than corporate income tax rates, and I say, “raise rates on the upper 5% of Americans”, that would mean corporate income rates remain the same?

Or should I spell it out for you? Raise tax rates on the upper 5%, lower taxes on the other 95%, and if you still have money left over, lower corporate income tax rates.

There. Now how many corporations are moving overseas?
TheDickNixon

as most small business owners run their taxes on their personal returns, increasing taxes on them will hurt the economy more that it will increase revenue.

You aren't very intelligent are you Danny?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

How many times does that myth have to be debunked before you stop using it? You're looking at 3-5% of “small businesses” that would see an increase. These “small businesses” are most likely hedge funds or lawyers, and their tax increase would be about $700, way to small to cover hiring anyone.

http://washingtonindependent.com/97315/who-would-the-tax-increases-hurt
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/myths&facts.pdf
http://www.jct.gov/publications.html?func=startdown&id=3703

You aren't very intelligent are you Dick?
TheDickNixon

Nixon is intelligent enough to read the article at the Independent that you cited. BTW, your sentence about lawyers and hedge funds is taken from the article, and you didn't use quotation marks or cite the source. That's intellectual theft. It's also a sign of serial trolling. You left out these quotes from the same article.

” The number and kind of small businesses that might see taxes on their profits rise is impossible to determine without access to private IRS files.”

“Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), for instance, yesterday argued, “Only in Washington could someone propose a tax hike as an antidote to a recession. And this is no small tax hike. The tax hike the administration is proposing, according to the IRS, would apply to half of all small business income in this country. And an analysis by the National Federation of Independent Business shows that businesses that employ 20 to 250 people would be hardest hit. All told, according to the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, hundreds of thousands of small businesses would see their taxes go up next year under the administration’s plan.”

“Lieberman and Republicans are arguing that if Democrats hike taxes on the wealthy, they will ratchet back spending, hurting the recovery. “[The Obama tax plan] is a bad idea,” argues Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), for instance, saying raising taxes will cause more unemployment. “People are eager for reliable, well-paying jobs. Entrepreneurship provides those jobs. And entrepreneurs often pay taxes at the top marginal tax rates because they’ve worked their way up to those income levels.”

“The senator continued: “I know that many people, including the president, have argued that the tax cuts should not be continued for people making more than $200,000 a year, but to me these are the people we need to be using their income to spend and invest to spur growth and job creation. The fact is that the top three percent of American income-earners account for 25 percent of the consumption in our economy.” He also argued that the tax increases would hurt small businesses — which, as the traditional engine of job growth in the United States, have created about two-thirds of the country’s new jobs over the past 15 years. ”

You should read your own articles Danny. And don't steal other people's writing and claim it as your own.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Thanks for backing me up. 75% of our consumption is by 97% of Americans. Those that have seen a decreasing share of income growth. Imagine how many more jobs we would have if they actually had money in their pockets, rather than it sitting overseas in an Asian growth fund.

And I do have to laugh at Grassley. If you're making $250k a year from your “small business”, $700 less a year won't make you let someone go. Keeping it in place won't make you hire someone either. There's no point in bringing on more employees unless there is demand. And the only way you get demand is getting more money in to the hands of the people that buy your products. And unless you're selling $5,000 belts as your business, that isn't the upper 5%.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

By the way, I link to articles in my post, so you know whether something I'm summarizing is from the article, or from me. But I'll try to make sure I use quotes, just so you know that it comes from the article, which should already know from reading the article.
TheDickNixon

Sorry Danny, you were caught using someone else's material and claiming it as your own.

Busted.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

If I had just posted the material with no link, then you would have that argument. But since I actually link to the article in question, then you know exactly where the material came from.
TheDickNixon

Actually danny, you posted more than one, didn't use quoatation marks, and used hte phrase in your regular typing.

Nixon is sorry to bust you on stealing another's work.
TheDickNixon

the Top 5% of income earners pay 65% of taxes and are responsible for 25% of comsumption. And raising taxes on them will help the economy.

THe article, like youself, is full of feces.
TheDickNixon

“to benefit the wealthy business owners”

If they own the business, why can't they do what they want to?
Rose

That is what Danny likes to see – “Stupid Americans” losing their Spending Power” – so much easier to set up dictatorships over the poor.

TheDickNixon

“When the party philosophy is currently one of cut the deficit by cutting spending and taxes, while increasing the size of the military, I have no choice but to vote Democrat.”

When you turn 18 you can vote, just like us adults. What's the matter, did the military turn you down or something?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

No, I just know how much waste there is in current government spending, and how much we pay out to play global cop. Improve the contracting structure, eliminate duplicated programs, reduce the number of bases both foreign and domestic, and we'd still be a military superpower, since the money could then be put to research rather than fixing outdated equipment.

But good work understanding the current state of military spending and procurement!

StanW

Nothing turns a flaming socialist into a hardcore fiscal Conservative faster than military spending. You and your ilk want to get down into the paper clips at the Pentagon, yet think millions of dollars for needle exchange programs and art therapy will pay for themselves.

Pathetic!
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

I know how much waste is in govt spending too, it's all unconstitutional and it's all social welfare programs that eat up more than 40% of every dollar taken from my pay check.
DrEvil

Why do you hate small businesses that supply a significant percentage of the repair parts for our current equipment? Why do you want to transfer massive amounts of tax-payers funds to the ebil!!!! military-industrial corporations in the form of research contracts, which normally are cost plus type contracts. Cost plus means that the contractor is reimbursed for their costs plus reasonable profit on allowable expenses. These type contracts often end up costing many times the original estimates whereas a firm fixed priced contract for an existing system does not allow for increased costs and in general provides for the least amount of risk to the government.

Have an Evil day

True Blue

The Dick, rarely has a participant in this forum been more singularly disrespectful of opposing points of view than yourself. You have chosen a suitable name for yourself.

When you are prepared to address the subject rather than attack the poster, you can re-join the adults in this discussion. Until then, please refrain from your typical age-ist put downs and dismissive perspective of fellow Americans you happen to ignorantly disagree with.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

When you have any credibility on this board by being a long time poster; then you can tell others how they can and should act until then, you are welcome to post on the topic at hand or pipe down.

Nixon is right Danny acts childishly, and espouse a very simplistic view of the world and he got told so.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Childish? Backing up my posts with links is childish? Refuting voodoo economics is childish? Being able to discuss economics beyond “capitalism = good, socialism = bad” is childish?

Perhaps the ones being childish are the ones that call me such rather than back up their posts with more than insults and opinions.
http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/OZBTYQK5MN5SKP6FA6KK4TJOQ4 MichaelAlan

When you can stop spouting talking points that get emailed to you and debate on your own intellect, then you will get respect here.
StanW

And who are you to admonish ANYONE here?

Go through puberty before another pathetic attempt to disrespect your betters.
TheDickNixon

Well, what are you going to do about it?
Rose

Liar.

Truth Hurts you inexorably, huh! That is your feelings of inadequacy squealing, little Marxist.

Trench_Raider

while increasing the size of the military

With that negative opinion of the military, we don't WANT you on our side, son.

TR

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Bigger != Better

We keep up the current philosophy, China will have a better equipped military than us. We don't win wars by bringing the most guns to the fight, we win by bringing the best guns to the fight.

TheDickNixon

Yet you liberals cut the funding for producing the F22. Curious your hypocrisy is.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

No, funding was cut since the military said they had enough F22's to cover their operational needs. This allowed funding to shift to F35's.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-21-defense-spending_N.htm

Hey look, democrats cutting military bloat to focus on future equipment!
TheDickNixon

Covering current operational needs doesn't address the build up in China and Russia, especially as they are currently devleoping planes to directly compete with the F22. Also, the move cut 100,000 jobs, The F35 is not operational and it's costs have doubled.

All of the R and D was done on the Raptor. The F35 is still having issues, costs are rising, the capabilities of the plane are not up to F22 standards, and they are trying to meet the needs of three services (differing needs) with one aircraft. Big roll of the idce with National Security on the line. Of course, being a liberal, you really aren't concerned with that. Just some imaginary forecast savings that will in fact probably never occur.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

If they're developing planes to compete with the F22, then wouldn't it make sense to stop buying it, and build something better? Especially a plane that won't just be AF, but also Marines and Navy?
TheDickNixon

as the F22 will be the front line interceptor, having only 189 operational isn't a good idea, when you will need numbers.

The F35 isn't better than the Raptor, yet you want to build more.

Curious.

Rose

You only voted Dim Marxist BEFORE!

Nothing new THERE!

Troll.

Rhawkins22

It is never to late to fall on your sword for your cause. O'Donnell may win down south where I am at but we can go ahead and mark this Delaware seat as a D win this fall. I wished she had the political legs to pull in enough Delaware voters to mark her name this fall but……

As Michael Vick can tell you….The right “dawg” has to be in the ring to fight if you want to win. We have the wrong dawg in the fighting ring this time.

tblrk2006

Thats not entirely true. Castle was ahead of ODonnell and the Democrat by a long shot. People might have just woken up. I guess it doesnt really matter considering castle was a dem voter anyway.

Rhawkins22

There is no one right recipe for a Republican at the end of the day. If we can get a liberal Republican in the Senate to replace a Democrat then that is a big win. I will a person that votes 70 – 80% with Republicans over 100% against. This all or nothing concept is a losing strategy. You have to look to the general election in the Fall for the big picture. Cheers

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Just like I wrote above. All or nothing is a losing strategy, decide what is really important, push 100% on that, let your party vary on non-important issues such that they can please their state. All or nothing will eventually net you nothing.

StanW

The only people that benefit from RINO's in Congress are Liberal Democrats. They get a consistent voting block AND a compliant scape-goat all in one. Someone that will both give them the votes they need for their America-Destroying agenda, as well as cover and blame when their plans are revealed.

By voting for RINO's, Conservatives have nothing to gain and EVERYTHING to lose!
Norseman

Spot on Stan. The RINO's are complicit in destroying our economy and the Dims are dragging the Repulican party down with them. It is time to take a stand and we have. If the Republican party does not change adapt to the will of the people, they will go the way of the Whigs.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

They have nothing to gain and EVERYTHING to lose because conservatives have no plan, no voice, no leader. If you can't even agree in your own party on what issues you want to address, how can you expect to get this country back on track? If the current minority leader is rehashing ideas proposed by a democratic president two years prior, how can you expect to be taken seriously?
StanW

Your being willfully blind does not mean we have no plan. And from your previous quotes here, I can tell you have no interest in anything that even resembles American success.

Do not concern yourself that anyone will take you seriously, Danny.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

No, I have interest in American success, you have interest in executive success. I see the path to American success through middle class income and population growth, you see it through upper 5% income growth.

Only middle class income and population growth has actually been shown to promote American success, as measured by consistent GDP growth in real wage income growth.
StanW

Wrong on so many levels. You cannot continue to demand more and more from the providers in this country BEFORE THEY STOP PROVIDING. And since that upper 5% pays the lions share of the taxs in this country, you are advocating cutting your own throat.

America succeeds when we all succeed, not when you and your ilk are allowed to divide us along your ever changing economic lines.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

If you believe that America succeeds when we all succeed, why are you voting Republican then?

http://www.examiner.com/political-spin-in-national/income-growth-for-americans-is-better-under-democratic-presidents-than-republicans
StanW

I vote Republican because i will never vote for a party that Hates the military and is trying to turn America in a third-world Socialist HellHole.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Hating the military = wanting a smaller better equipped force that is more capable of addressing engagements the world over with a shorter response time? Guess I hate the military then too. Damn those Democrats wanting more money for R&D efforts to better equip our force, and less money wasted on playing global cop or duplicated efforts.
StanW

Don't even try to pull that Danny. Democrats are famous for cutting military R&D projects, cancelling new weaponery, and forsing our tropps to play global garbageman, not global cop.

Perhaps you should talk to a few career military personnel and ask them about life under Republican and Democrat administrations.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

They're famous for cutting projects that are overbudget and not working as intended.

But yes, they've cut military r&d spending!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#By_title

Or more accurately, they haven't given them the normal 20% increase they're used to, and military allocations are done by how much was spent the previous year, rather than what the actual need was. Then when someone actually needs the money, their budget is short, since they haven't been fattening it up by overspending.
StanW

Using wikipedia on a political boad as proof of your point = EPIC FAIL.

And all departments of the government budget like that, Danny. Interesting you have such a problem with the military getting theirs, and no issue with the NEA getting the same.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

That's only one graph of American success and it's been debunked since it leaves out so many other factors, like deficit size, debt load, GDP, etc, and it only speaks to Presidents not who controls congress what the rate of inflation is at any give time on the graph, what unemployment looks like, and many other factors.

Nice try but FAIL.
baoxian

So why are you supporting a President and Congress that have put the screws to the middle class like never before?

The Democrats are the party of the dependent poor and ultra-rich. They not only don't support the middle class, they are actively trying to destroy it because of the threat it represents to their power.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Please enlighten me on what policies have been passed that put the screws to the middle class like never before.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Then you real dn't see what we want and your are just fomenting class warfare.
TheDickNixon

so all those 5% top income earners are idle executives.

Tell that to farmers, small business owners, and single owner professionals. They put people to work and money into circulation.

Of course, without class warfare and envy, your entire house of cards collapses.
TheDickNixon

Yet you are not a conservative. Interesting.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Conservatives have plenty plans, have their own voices, and since they are responsible adults don't need leaders.
Mr. EMT

Wise words from a democrat.
Keep begging for the right to compramise.
No matter who wins in the elections, eventually you will loose.
Your liberal policies are pushing the people in this nation towards a civil war.

Mr. EMT

Spoken like someone who supports the party, and doesnt care about the policy.

Mr. EMT

And Sara Palin would be the first to tell you.
We didnt send a dog to fight in a ring.
We sent a Grizzly in to clean house.
Rose

Christine O'Donnell is now at 83% of her NEW $1,000,000 Goal.

Without RINO HELP.

Rose

Now 86%

CoolCzech

Now Mike Castle is saying he won't endorse O'Donnell.

Talk about RINO to a “T”… just like Murkowski up in Alaska, threatening an independent run! RINO's have NO principles whatsoever, except personal power. I'd rather have a Democrat in the Senate than a guy like Castle, that votes like a Democrat anyway. People like him is why we currently have one party socialist rule in America.

Kingfisher

Now Mike Castle is saying he won't endorse O'Donnell.

O'Donnell could use that to her favor. The people are fed up with Washington politics. An endorsement refusal could convince the voters that O'Donnell is not part of the establishment and could boost her chances.

O'Donnell should take advantage of this.

CoolCzech

Here's a question for Castle fans: if he's so wonderfully Electible and all… how come he couldn't even get the nomination of his own party?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

He's so wonderfully electable because he can garner votes from independents and democrats. He may be less popular with Republicans, but he would be more popular overall, allowing him to win rather than a Democratic candidate.

Mr. EMT

I would have to question what kind of a leader I would be if I were to have the support of freeloading shiftless basement dwelling commies.
I don't think there is enough money in the world to pay me to be a judas goat and lead the herds of mindless sheep to their destruction the way democrats typically do.
Face it, the ONLY people that support you morons, are people who are politically uneducated.
And damn near every one of your supporters, if you asked them which is better in life, to work for what you earn, or take what someone gives wont give you the answer a democrat needs to win a vote.
And that is a clear difference in the parties.
GOP has struggled to enable people to earn
The democrats struggle to take.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

GOP has struggled to enable 5% of people to earn.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/may2006/mobi-m20.shtml

Democrats have struggled to enable everyone to earn.

http://justwondrin.blogspot.com/2010/09/income-growth-better-under-democratic.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2266025/entry/2266026/

TheDickNixon

As the top 5% of wage earners pay 65% or so of income taxes, you should want them to earn more Danny. More income, more revenue.

And handing out money to the “poor” has gotten us 50 years of the failed Democratic War on Poverty. Under Obama, there are more poor people. Ooops.
RappinMc

World Socialist Web Site? No Bias There… MoveOn.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

That fails to acknowledge how many independants, Dems, Reps, and libetarians are the base of the Tea Party movement, and are the one pushing for O'Donnell and the like.

CoolCzech

As to all the talk about O'Donnell's alleged unelectability… here is what I saw on Morning Joe this morning: a bunch of liberals with long faces, looking like their dog died.

I don't know the outcome of THIS particular race, but I know fear on the faces of Liberals when I see it… they see the a huge conservative resurgence in the GOP, and they see decimation headed their way come 2010 and 2012.
baoxian

I hope Palin prepared O'Donnell for what's coming when she endorsed her, because hoo-boy is she in for a world of hate. I'm sure the liberals will wander in here dripping misogyny and faux-superiority any minute now. The GOP establishment is also going to be hopping mad that one of their own royalty was denied by an upstart.

But this race betrays the greater dynamic at play here. The Republican Party has drifted much too far to the left and really no longer represents the working and entrepreneurial classes as it once did. Voting for TARP betrayed that they're much too comfortable working with the Democrats to benefit the powerful “elites” at the expense of the rest of us.

This is a revolution of sorts. We're back to the Founding, choosing individual liberty over monarchy in a different guise. Expect the rhetoric to heat up as the powerful start to squirm.

True Blue

Your post is nonsense. The left doesn't hate half term. It hates that she doesn't know what she is talking about, which is proven by her inability to be interviewed by anyone but someone sympathetic to her.

The left dislikes the Tea Birchers because they are all outrage and no plan, other than superficial calls to honor the constitution, roll back the health care initiative, end social security, end unemployment insurance, etc.

We are quite happy to see the conservative movement in such disarray, as you'll learn in November.

TheDickNixon

“We are quite happy to see the conservative movement in such “disarray,”

Yep, all those Conservative candidates just keep on losing elections. Oh wait, they don't. And you leftists fear Palin so much your judgement, which sucks as you all voted for Obamateur, is clouded with hate.

It makes Nixon chuckle at your impotence.
baoxian

Yeah, so Palin had a few slip ups during interviews where the reporter was openly hostile towards her.

How about Obama the Vacationing Wonder and his 57 States? He's so smart he can read from a teleprompter!

And being the Party of No in the face of an out of control government and collapsing economy is exactly what this country needs.
RappinMc

Weak BARK, ignorant BARK, MOONBAT troll.

RBC47

In November, one3 of two things will happen:

1) Tea Party-supported candidates will win, and they will then be in a position to clean house in the GOP, in which case Steele, Rove etc will lose, DeMint may replace McConnell, and the Republican Party will have made a more or less permanent shift to the right.

or…….

2) the Tea Party-supported candidates will lose, in which case the Republican chance to regain control of the House and Senate will evaporate forever. Harry Reid will remain as Senate Majority Leader, Nancy Pelosi will remain as Speaker, and the GOP “regulars”,probably lead by Rove, will take revenge on the Tea Party. Among other consequences, Sarah Palin will be finished in national politics.

For the Tea Party, this election is about survival – their survival. And Ms. Clouthier, all that wishful thinking will not save people like Sharron Angle – she will win or lose on her own – and the sad fact is that a more “moderate” or “RINO-like” candidate would beat Reid by double digits, whereas Sharron seems determined to guarantee Sen Reid's re-election.

Trench_Raider

Shut up, groundhog. No one cares what you “think”.

TR

RBC47

Interesting how Trench and Nixon and their ilk make assumptions about what others think without any support – says more about your paranoia than anything I actually wrote. The Tea Party set out to influence the Republican Party but has now bumbled its way into the position that it must either take over the GOP and throw out the “regulars” or the “regulars” will destroy the Tea Party. Whichever way you think it ought to come out, 2 more years of fratricidal warfare are not going to enhance the odds of ousting Obama.

TheDickNixon

under your groundhogg user name, you endorsed and stated you voted for Obama.

baoxian

But what's the point of having a RINO beat Reid? What's the point of having the RINO King in Mike Castle as a Republican? They're still big spending, big government stooges that are harming the country. Having those toxic policies pushed by Republicans is doubly bad because it allows Democrats to blame conservatism for the damage when in truth conservatism has never had a seat at the table.

If Democrats want to socialize the economy, let them take every bit of the blame when it goes to hell. We may win a few less seats at the end of the day, but we've really won those seats and affected change.

You libs can't help but betray your fear, because you know the end of the RINO is a major blow to your cause.
TheDickNixon

” and the sad fact is that a more “moderate” or “RINO-like” candidate ”

Yet these are the people who ruined America, according to Obama in 2008. So now we should support the people who messed the country up.

You are a moron.
Mr. EMT

Notice how it is you libtards are watching everything the right is doing under a microscope?
No matter what happens, its all over the media.
O'donnell was unherd of to me a few weeks ago, now she is an overnight superstar.
Meantime democrats cant hide from the camera enough. They dont want to be in the spotlight they dont want to be seen standing near obamao or each other and they certainly dont want the policies they voted on to be hanged around their necks while they try to treat water.

Guess

I don't know which is more rewarding, watching the GOP implode by the extremists they have been courting or how those extremists think that their still unelected representatives will be any more honest or successful than their previous candidates.

TheDickNixon

It's almost as faun as watching Barak Obama becoming the worst POTUS in history right before our eyes.

And you are one of the dumbasses that fell for his bullshit.

F'n Obot.

Guess

Obama is bad for doing what he promised? Getting combat troops out of Iraq, doing his best to manage an economy he inherited and passing a health care bill. Doing what he said doesnt make him bad, just not what you wanted.

P.S. Dont bore me with your Faux News sound bites you will spew about how bad he is… its just noise.

TheDickNixon

He inherited it from Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Socialized medicine with death panels isn't really what he promised, but it is what he is attempting to deliver.

And really, “Faux News”. Take Obama's junk from your mouth and come up with some better material. Nixon has read better stuff than you have on the back of cereal boxes.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Oh, those death panels:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/story?id=8295708
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/health/policy/14panel.html

Faux much?
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Medicare has death panels, Danny, thats it denies more claims than all all of the private insurers COMBINED. If you that won't under Odramacare, you're naive to the Nth power.
TheDickNixon

Yep, the ones that were proven to be in the legislation.

And your argument is shown to be intellectually weak by your use of the word Faux, unless you have specific examples of Fox cooking the news.

Mr. EMT

The reward comes from watching people like Bill Clinton make comments such as, “The new face is of the GOP is making George Bush look Liberal.”

I hope its true and I hope it continues.
When this nation stands on the Right of Bush and his policies we are heading in a direction that will bring the people of this nation into greater chances for prosperity and happiness.
Moving left has only brought this nation greater unemployment and higher taxes and weakness in the face of our enemies.

President Friedman

Message to GOP from the Tea Party: We've taken all your stooges and hidden them… in the basement of the Alamo! bwahahahaha

I freaking love this story.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

As mentioned before, chalk up a win for the democrats now. As much as people like to call moderate Republicans RINO's, you can't get elected without defectors from independents and democrats. This goes back to Republicans not having a plan. As a party, they need to decide what their priorities are, then let people swing moderate/liberal on important issues in their state, which are not on the party's main policy list. Too much turmoil in the party right now, so if they want control in 2012, they better start promoting the thinkers in their party, rather than the shouters.

baoxian

Why do you consider it an auto-win? Castle was the monied, popular, experienced, insider. Everybody liked him. It rained rose petals when he walked into a room and he was the embodiment of everything a politician should be (so we were told). He was soundly defeated by O'Donnell.

Who is Chris Coons? He's a stuffy county-level bureaucrat that was unopposed in the primary because he was supposed to get rolled by Castle. Now the Democrats are going to expect him to win a race that will get national attention. He's not superman, he's quite vulnerable himself and will be under tremendous pressure.

Mr. EMT

How many democrats want to vote for someone with the name “coons.”
That makes me laugh every time I hear it.

StanW

Why not, Democrats continued to vote a known racist to power while claiming to be Civil Rights champions.
Rose

Isn't he a Black man on top of that? Black man named Coons??????

Mr. EMT

I been watching a lot of democrats jump ship.
People are sick and tired of living in “free” government housing with “free” healthcare and “free” food stamps when they could get out get a job and live a better life.
You would be one of them too if you had an ounce of ambition to get off your ass and get out of your parents basement.
TheDickNixon

“As much as people like to call moderate Republicans RINO's, you can't get elected without defectors from independents and democrats.”

So much fail in one sentence it pains Nixon. Sometimes, reading your drivel is worse than the chemo Nixon had to endure earlier this year.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Unless you're Bush, you need a majority of the votes. If you're in a Democratic state, you won't have enough votes from Republicans alone, since Democrats have the majority. You either need some combination of Republican, Democrat, and Independent votes to form a majority, or hope that for some reason your party doesn't suffer the same attrition rate that the other party does.

But then, math was never Nixon's strong suit. But what more would I expect from a RINO that raised SS and Medicare payments, implemented price controls, and created EPA and OSHA.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Tea Party members are from nearly every political party, danny-boy, except the most extreme leftwingers, like the Greens.
TheDickNixon

Bush received a majority of the Electoral Votes Danny. You know, the things you have to have more of to become POTUS?

Actually, you don't need any Independents or Democrats to win in a Democratic State. You have to have a majority of the CONSERVATIVE votes to win. Tough for you wrap your midget intellect around Nixon realizes, but give it the old high school try, in your case.

And Nixon is remembered as ending our involvement in your party's Vietnam War.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

As stated nothing in the coming elections is a given. Americans are fed up the establishment, PERIOD. And Dems are the first target, next are Reps like Castle.

I will take this as your prediction, Whats_up likes to talk about peoples prediction abilities, and come 11/3 we'll see who's right. You say the Dem all the way because the Reps chose a no name.

billdalasio

You know, there comes a time when the vote is over and everyone involved should put it behind them and rally around the candidate. That the Republican establishment is refusing to do this, calls into question, in my mind, how fit they are to be the establishment of the Republican party. O'Donnell won. Now it's time Republicans start working to figure out how to get her in office. For all the claims of O'Donnell's unelectability, I can't help but recall that Delaware is the state that put Pete Dupont (not exactly even a moderate by any rational analysis) in the Congress three times and in the Governor's mansion.
TheDickNixon

It warms Nixon's cold heart to see the liberals and RINO's here today, fine folks such as “Danny Browning”, “Guess”, and “RBC47″, gnashing their teeth and wailing like little bitches over the American People, especially the ones in Delaware, finally having enough of the “Mainstream” bullshit that has ruined this country.

For those of you morons calling for only “Moderate” candidates running the GOP, Nixon calls to your attention President John McCain. Oh wait, he didn't win the election.

The American People have had enough. You don't like it, tough shit.

November will be a bloodbath for the left, and the so called middle can either get on board or be consigned to the dustbin of history.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Actually, The American People have had enough. That's why you have so many Democrats in office right now. We have had enough with RINOs that want to cut spending, while simultaneously keeping tax cuts for the rich and financing wars. We've had enough with RINOs that would rather focus on a community center, then support those who have sacrificed their lives and health in 9/11 response or military service (DADT). RINOs that have forgot that being Republican is about fiscal conservatism, and limiting government. RINOs that want to keep marijuana illegal, and outlaw abortions. RINOs that are so deep in the pocket of corporate interests, that they propose bailing out banks that cause a financial crisis (TARP), but don't dare put into place regulations that keep it from happening.

RINO doesn't mean Republican in Name Only. It means Republican that is not voting how I waNt them tO.

Mr. EMT

Keep singing that toon.
I want to hear it again after november, and after 2012.
Are you going to be one of the few who might vote for obamao if he has the audacity to try to run again?
I bet he doesnt, and I bet you wouldnt, regardless of what you say here.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

I will vote for the candidate I think will do the best (or less worse, however you look at it) job. And until I see a Republican candidate that cuts taxes because they've cut spending, not because they think it will increase revenue, I won't vote Republican. Especially ones that want to cut taxes and spend more on military. At least with democrats, they won't cut taxes and won't spend more on military, hopefully causing the deficit to increase less quickly.

TheDickNixon

Sure thing RINO, or is it Obot?

The Deficit is $1.5 trillion under Obama.

You aren't very intelligent, as proven the other night here.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Better to be $1.5 trillion than $2.8 trillion.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3143
StanW

That's your entire argument, Danny? It could be worse.

News Flash for you, that line of reasoning didn't work with the unemployment numbers and it won't work here either!
Mr. EMT

And it would be worse if the GOP wasnt as solid against obamao as it was.
Seriously the few rinos that did the reach around game with democrats couldnt have embaressed themselves more.
And the entire nation saw them for what they were, no one gives credit for arlen spector or snowe or the other few rinos to be GOP members.
And for the GOP to not immediately revoke their party status is one of the shames to the GOP party.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

The Democrats corrected policies that had our country hurtling towards further debt with irresponsible tax cuts and expensive wars. Policies that led to high unemployment and decreasing revenues. Given such an amazing state of the nation, one can only hope that the politicians are reversing that course of action.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63C09I20100413
StanW

Policies that led to high unemployment and decreasing revenues.

You mean like the policies of the Obama Administration and the Democrat-Controlled Congress are doing RIGHT NOW?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-jobs-lost-in-the-bush-and-obama-administration-2010-2

No one really knows who is responsible, or how many more or less jobs would have been lost with the stimulus. All you can say is that job losses are less under the current administration.
StanW

Unemployment is higher Danny. Still want to try to make that point?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

It's actually lower. It peaked in October of 2009, as would be expected, since job losses didn't start declining until Obama took office.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-08/unemployment-in-u-s-peaked-in-october-economist-achuthan-says.html

Are you really that misinformed on every issue?
StanW

Actually, it started when Democrats took control of Congress, Danny. But it's OK, we EXPECT you to lie in order to make your insipid points.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

But yet, GDP growth is a factor of the administration that was 4-8 years prior.

So which is it? Does economic policy take effect immediately when someone takes office (at which point the recession was the democrats fault, but clinton had great economic growth, and growth under Reagan was due to democrats), or does it take 4-8 years to take effect (at which point the recession was due to Bush and Republicans, but the great growth under Clinton was due to Reagan's policies, and while Clinton was responsible for Bush's great growth)?

You can't say its immediate one time, and delayed the next time, just so it suits your point. Pick a time frame.
TheDickNixon

the goal posts, they are a movin
TheDickNixon

reuters, home of the photoshopped pictures.

Those tax cuts led to a pretty good run in the economy and record tax revenues until January 2007. What happened that month danny? An Inconvenient Truth.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

What happened that month? They continued to climb while outlays declined.

http://www.fgmr.com/federal-tax-receipts-tumble-while-outlays-and-debt-soar.html

An Inconvenient Truth.

I really love the part where Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency in 2004, but outlays continued to increase. Sounds like the party of fiscal responsibility to me!
TheDickNixon

The Democratic Party took control of the purse strings in January 2007 danny. Please try to keep up.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

That's why they tripled deficit? To curtail the spending, what Bizarro world planet are you living on?? In reality they have made the problem worse.

Revenues were the highest on record after the Bush tax cut all the way up to the start of the recession. Prior to Odrama taking office unemployment was below 8% but has essentially stabilized at 9.5%, how the fuck is that an improvement?
TheDickNixon

Projected vs Obama's actual numbers. Hmmm, what about Obama's projected unemployment numbers vs actual? ooops.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

But it's more than triple the $438 Billion of 2008!!!!! That's ATTROCIOUS, and it's all the fault of…. the DEMS. What the hell makes you think they'll do better after later?
DrEvil

And I have government estimates from 2006 that estimate the 2010 deficit at $72 billion. Now, what happened in 2007 and continues to this day that could have had such a negative effect on the deficits? That's right, the Democrats took control of Congress in 2007 and the White House in 2009 and ran the economy into the ditch with their reckless spending all the while blaming President Bush.

Have an Evil day
Mr. EMT

…..
That shows one of the many issues democratic logic has verses people in this nation.
You really think it flies well over people to say “Spending a trillion dollars on waste pork projects such as teaching africans to wash their nut sacks is way better than spending money on the military. After all the military would only spend it on equiping the troops who are fighting terrorist regimes across the world, and educating and training people to become productive citizens.”

Nice way to admit you, and democrats like you, for all your lip service and words to the contrary, really do not support our troops in anyway shape or form.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Are you really that uneducated on spending?

Pork, $16.5 billion: http://www.cagw.org/newsroom/releases/2010/earmark-spending-165.html

Military, $663 billion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

And a significant portion of that is not spent on equipping the troops. It is spent refurbishing outdated equipment that should be replaced by newer equipment that lets our soldiers perform their job much more efficiently and safely.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

That's JUST in the regualr budget Danny it says nothing about Porkulus which was nearly a trillion dollars, and at least the Miliatries budget is Constitutional, nothing about pork is, ever.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Danny, We have the best equipped armed forces in the world, we spend $424 of that budget on Operations, Maintence, and Procurement, how much more are we supposed to spend?? And remember, Odrama wanted to spend less.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

Operations, Maintenance, Procurement goes to making sure we have enough of the best equipment available now. It doesn't go to making sure we have the best equipment available 10 years from now. That's why the Operations and Maintenance portion of that needs to be cut. Slimmer, more efficient, better trained force will suit our military needs better.

Rose

Did you see Drudge – headlines – Michelle says “Job is Hell – She cannot stand it!”

Tell-all French First Lady's book!

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

“Actually, The American People have had enough.”

True

“That's why you have so many Democrats in office right now.”

Not necessarily, most of those new dems were elected because they were next best option to the Rep and talked big about cutting taxes and cutting spending.

“We have had enough with RINOs that want to cut spending, while simultaneously keeping tax cuts for the rich and financing wars.”

No most are of tired of all the spending period: Porkulus, Odramacare, TARP, and Medicare D, just being the most recent major bills. The war doesn't even come close to Porkulus and has been spread over 9 years, but I'm sure it plays in some peoples minds.

We've had enough with RINOs that would rather focus on a community center, then support those who have sacrificed their lives and health in 9/11 response or military service (DADT). RINOs that have forgot that being Republican is about fiscal conservatism, and limiting government. RINOs that want to keep marijuana illegal, and outlaw abortions. RINOs that are so deep in the pocket of corporate interests, that they propose bailing out banks that cause a financial crisis (TARP), but don't dare put into place regulations that keep it from happening.

RINO doesn't mean Republican in Name Only. It means Republican that is not voting how I waNt them tO.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-Browning/1666222445 Danny Browning

You do realize that two of the major spending bills you're talking about came from Republicans? Medicare Part D (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h108-1) even required Cloture in the Senate by Republicans to get it passed. TARP came from Paulsen, a Bush appointee.

Either all 47 Republicans in the Senate voting for cloture are RINOs, or the party has completely lost its way.

TheDickNixon

99% of us here decried Medicare B. Finally you understand that we conservatives opposed the massive incresae in Medicare spending under Bush.

TARP was passed by the Democratic controlled House and Senate, and with the populace being terrified of tales of BS from the left, Bush had no choice to sign it or have his veto over ruled by Congress.

Guess

Nixons dead dumbass and I am taking gleeful pleasure in watching your hand wringing.
True blue

Actually that has fuck all to do with why jobs are moved overseas, hair brain.

Jobs are moved overseas because republicanism is the belief in cheap labor to increase profits. Nothing more. Deal with it, dimwit, because it's your badge of dishonor.

Jeezus h. Christ on a stick, you are a dumb ass.
StanW

And JHarp has rushed back on with a new name.

Flagged for your being an idiot!
True blue

Stain, you are a Fail! on so many levels, it is actually funny.

You have been owned. Now just shut the fuck up
StanW

Is that Charlie Brown's teacher I hear?

Waa-Waa-Waa-Waa, just like always, Harp!
TheDickNixon

flagged for stupidity
TheDickNixon

You Democrats and your urge to won people. Nixon sees we didn't stomp that urge out of you at the end of 1865.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Jobs are moved overseas because republicanism is the belief in cheap labor to increase profits. Nothing more. Deal with it, dimwit, because it's your badge of dishonor.

False, patently so, in multiple ways. Jobs are moved overseas because companies can't compete when forced to pay more for the end product than buyers are willing to spend. When you can hire someone overseas who will do the same job for half the wages and no benefits, you go where the cost is lowest. When you can't find better overseas you look for other places to like like base wages, cheaper raw materials, cutting energy costs, reduce shipping rates. All in the hope of being to A profit, even a minimal one. Thus not all profits are driven by CHEAP LABOR. And cheap labor may not lead to profits, if quality falls off! So much for your business sense.

Repbulicanism: One who favors a republic as the best form of government.

Now who's the dimwit? And for you it's a badge of honor, Harpie!!
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Harpie didn't you learn your lesson? You have about as much chance P3wning anyone as you do of winning the Nobel in Economics.
Rose

Christine has now raised 82% of her new $1,000,000 Goal!

WITHOUT THE HELP OF RINOS, thank you!!!!