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Imam Rauf: “We Gotta Build The Mosque At Ground Zero, Otherwise, Islamists Will Get Violent”
Written By : William Teach

Imam Rauf, who could have avoided all this by simply not putting the “cultural center” right near Ground Zero (btw, does anyone, other than gullible liberals, actually believe that the center will allow “separate prayer space for…..Christians, Jews and men and women of other faiths”? Good luck with that). But, hey, now that this is gone on for so long, it’s apparently a national security issue

A Muslim imam behind a proposed cultural center two blocks from New York’s Ground Zero said he must build there despite angry protests in order to defend America and its citizens against a “danger from the radicals in the Muslim world to our national security.”

That’s rather amusing coming from a guy who wants Sharia law in America and refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization.

“If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse,” Rauf told CNN. “The headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack.

Got that? He just put 62% of Americans in the same box as Islamists. Though, interestingly, our “radicals” aren’t strapping on suicide belts, going on shooting rampages, nor hijacking planes and flying them into buildings.

“There is a certain anger here [in America], no doubt,” he said later in the interview. “But if we don’t do this right, anger will explode in the Muslim world. If we don’t do things correctly, this crisis could become much bigger than the Danish cartoon crisis [over images depicting the Prophet Mohammed], which resulted in attacks on Danish embassies in various parts of the Muslim world. And we have a much bigger footprint in the Muslim world.”

So, if we don’t build the “center”, Muslims will do what we have seen them do time and time again, get violent. And on the flip side, if the nutjobs in Florida go ahead with their “Burn The Koran Day” plan, then the Islamists will get violent.

“I would plead with him to seriously consider what he is doing,” Rauf said on CNN. “It is going to feed into the radicals in the Muslim world.

Everything feeds into the radicals in the Muslim world. Building the mosque, not building the mosque, you name it, they get upset.

“We have freedom of speech, but with freedom comes responsibility,” he added. “This is dangerous for our national security, but also it is the un-Christian thing to do.”

On this, I’ll agree with Rauf. This is not the Christian thing to do. It is also not in keeping with “demonstrating peaceably.” Yet, we also have freedom of religion, but, with freedom comes responsibility. And when the majority of Americans see the building of the Cordoba House as a bad thing and a slap in the face to a country that was attacked just a few blocks away, then building it is not in keeping with all the “bridge building” and stuff Rauf talks about. Perhaps he should show respect himself.

Oh, and open the books about where all the money is coming from.

More: DrewM at Ace makes a good point (via Michelle Malkin, who writes that people need to read the Koran, not burn it)

Another interesting byproduct of this situation is once again the disconnect between the “Islam equals peace” rhetoric and the reality people see on a daily basis. If Islam is so peaceful and only a “tiny minority’ of Muslims are “violent extremists”, why do we constantly have to be so damn sensitive to pissing them off?

When the whole Piss Christ thing happened Christians were told to suck it up and shut up. I don’t remember anyone worrying about marauding bands of Presbyterians going on a murder spree over it. But when it comes to cartoons or a bunch of loons (a true ‘tiny minority) burning some books, the world has to go on red alert if it involves Islam. Why is that exactly?

Crossed at Pirate’s Cove. Follow me on Twitter @WilliamTeach. Re-Change 2010!

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  • mightysamurai

    Once again: If muslims are so neurotically sensitive that opposing the construction of one single mosque is enough to turn them into screaming homicidal maniacs ready to blow themselves up in a crowded marketplace to appease their god, then maybe we should be going to war on Islam itself. If that's what Islam does to people then it's clearly the most evil and destructive ideology in the history of the human race and deserves to be wiped from the face of the Earth.

    …Or, y'know, Imam Rauf could be lying. That's also a possibility.

    • Rose

      Amazing that Rauf didn't hear himself say exactly that! Ain't it! hehehehehe

      NO DHIMMI STANCE HERE!!!

  • http://www.cavalierx.com CavalierX

    How is this different from terrorism? “Do what we want or we will get violent!”

    • StanW

      It is not terrorism…YET because he hasn't followed through on his threat. But is is DEFINITELY extortion. His words also prove that he is unconcerned with with the feeling of the majority of New Yorkers and Americans that think the Mosque shoudl not be built there.

      Another My-Way-Or-Violence from these fine Muslims Americans.

      Does it get any clearer than this?

      • Kingfisher

        What's really pathetic is that the opposition isn't trying to prevent the construction. All we're asking is that they move the site to another location further away from Ground Zero.

        That's called a “compromise.” It would show tolerance and compassion to others. But, I guess we're asking for too much.

        • StanW

          Liberals definition of 'compromise' means “Do It OUR Way!”.

          Like tolerance, compromise is a one way street with Liberals, and Muslims have no problem exploiting Liberal's hypocrisy for their own gain.

        • Rose

          I don't want it built at all – it is totally clear his intention is for a monument to terrorists/Armory/Fort/War College on America soil -laughing straight in our faces, ultimate manipulation and unveiled blatant scam. Forcing Americans to participate in their own destruction by forcing them to observe grace and manners to the point of their own Dhimmi suicide.

          Rauf calls it at once Cordoba and also Gaza in America – how blatant can Treason get!!!

    • UFKA_Smithwick

      Sounds like extortion to me.

      Al Capone would have been quite familiar with this tactic. Although he didn't pretend to be a tolerant, peace-loving saint while breaking your kneecaps.

  • baoxian

    Rauf has jumped the shark, and this is now nothing short of extortion.

    So now it's suddenly a mosque, huh? And all this time we were being told it was a community center with a prayer space. Guess that was total crap.

    And the Muslim world will explode into violence if the street address of this former non-mosque is changed? Sorry pal, problem here is with the Muslim extremists, not us.

    Guess all that money we blew sending this guy on a victory lap of the Middle East was wasted too, since all he seems to have accomplished is to stir up more Death to America zealotry.

    This guy is no longer a friend of this country, or of peace.

  • Proud Infidel

    Let's not forget about Sudanese Christians being enslaved, and the constant destruction of Christian Churches by muslims. This mullah is literally telling us to placate terrorists, plain and simple!! SO WHAT IF this abomination gets built, what next? Are we going to have to hear about how we HAVE to put a mosque on Capitol Hill to placate the muslims because some fleabag threatened a carbomb attack? And as for muslims vs. Christians, how often do we hear about Christians blowing themselves up among crowds of civilians? NO, moonbats, McVeigh was an avowed atheist!

  • Kingfisher

    Ah, so the “religion of peace” will become violent if they don't get their way.

    I'm looking forward to the way that the left will spin this. Once again, violence is acceptable if initiated from certain protected groups.

    • baoxian

      Well look at how the cruel and bigoted Western world oppresses them:

      Publishing cartoons, discussing vacant buildings, and planning a bonfire.

      INJUSTICE! OPPRESSION! EVIL! ALLAH ACKBAR! DEATH TO AMERICA!!

  • Kingfisher

    btw, does anyone, other than gullible liberals, actually believe that the center will allow “separate prayer space for…..Christians, Jews and men and women of other faiths”?

    I have to correct you, William. The top two floors will be a “separate prayer space.” So Vega has told us…

    …and told us
    …and told us
    …and told us
    …and told us
    …and told us
    .
    .
    .
    …and told us

    • http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

      I'm almost tempted to say to the Left and Rauf “fine, go ahead, build it.” And then we will see what will happen, which will certainly resemble nothing like what we have been told.

      • Kingfisher

        I'm sure non-Muslims will be allowed to pray…..between 11:59 pm to 12:00 am on one specific day during a leap year.

        I guess Rauf has P.T. Barnum's famous quote framed and hung on a wall somewhere.

      • Rose

        I want some tons of Bacon Grease dumped all over that building.

        Tons and tons of Bacon Grease!

        Tons of hot cooked pork sausages blocking the doorways. Not in boxes or sacks or anything, just huge piles of them.

    • Rose

      Sure, after they all take their shoes off at the front door.

      And we all know what that means. Can you worship Jehovah after bowing the knee to Allah and acknowledging him openly as the Supreme above all gods, at the entrance???

  • belacuse

    This seems like a big mistake from Rauf. Americans generally don’t respond well to threats so his statement is likely to turn the fence sitters against the whole idea of the GZM. The only people that are inclined to roll over and show their belly are liberals – all of which are already on his side.

    • StanW

      Actually, you are correct; liberals respond very well to threats from Muslims.

      Let us build this mosque wherever we want, or Muslims will rise up and kill you.

      DO NOT burn the Koran, or Muslims will rise up and kill you.

      Why does every issue in America with Muslims always boild down to GIVE US WHAT WE WANT, AS SOON AS WE WANT IT, EVERY TIME WE WANT IT, OR MUSLIMS WILL RISE UP AND KILL YOU. And make sure you all remember that Islam is a Religion of Peace!

    • Rose

      I'm thankful for his timing, so soon before Nov 2. Maybe it is a God thing, causing him to soak and manifest so thoroughly in his own arrogance…

  • Kingfisher

    I guess the billions spent on Muslims in Indonesia after the tsunami wasn't enough.

    Don't worry, if we give in this time, THEN they'll be nice to us. At least, until the next time they want something from us.

    I guess the times they burnt the American flag and currently enslave non-Mulims was a sign of love and compassion.

    Too bad we don't have a president with a pair because a real president would ask why a so-called “peace loving” religion would be prone to violence. It's a simple question.

    • mightysamurai

      I guess the times they burnt the American flag and currently enslave non-Mulims was a sign of love and compassion.

      That raises another point.

      Non-muslim Americans are always told to let offensive acts by muslims roll off our backs. When muslims burn American flags or chant “Death to America!” we have to let it go and not get angry, condemn it, or in any way do anything about it. The very suggestion that these acts might inflame Americans and even indirectly incite violence against muslims is immediately condemned by the left. The idea that any American would commit an act of violence in response to muslims burning flags or slandering the USA is considered inexcusable by everyone, as it should be.

      But when an American wants to burn a Koran or opposes the construction of a mosque, why are muslims not held to the same standard? Why are muslims not told to grin and bear it out of respect for freedom of speech? Why is it that when muslims warn that burning a Koran or opposing a mosque will incite violence against Americans, the left does NOT condemn them and say any act of violence would be inexcusable?

      Case in point: A few weeks ago I noted that if this protest movement ultimately fails and the Ground Zero mosque gets built anyway, expect to see frequent or even daily acts of violence (at the time I specified vandalism, but looking back on it I realize that physical assaults are just as likely). Cars will be egged. Walls will be graffiti-ed. Windows will be smashed out. Expect brawls in the parking lot and tense confrontations between muslim mosque-goers and angry New Yorkers. When I made this observation, D-Vega immediately replied back. He condemned any possible future acts of violence or vandalism against the Ground Zero and essentially said there would be no excuse for such a thing.

      I can't help but notice that he has failed to do the same here…

      • http://www.cavalierx.com CavalierX

        “But when an American wants to burn a Koran or opposes the construction of a mosque, why are muslims not held to the same standard? Why are muslims not told to grin and bear it out of respect for freedom of speech? Why is it that when muslims warn that burning a Koran or opposing a mosque will incite violence against Americans, the left does NOT condemn them and say any act of violence would be inexcusable?”

        You wouldn't want to be accused of shoving our culture down their throats, now would you? :)

        • Rose

          Yes.

          • Rose

            Please note – being accused by the likes of THEM, and being guilty are two different things.

      • Good Ol Boy

        “why are muslims not held to the same standard?”

        Because of the pervasive, thinly-veiled racism that permeates the Left. Deep down Leftists don't believe Arabs, or any other “brown people” for that matter, are capable of living up to the same standards as white ppl

    • Rose

      Dhimmi tax.

  • Kingfisher

    I'm sure the leaders of the Muslim community will soon express their distaste at Rauf's statement calling them “insensitive” and “hurtful.”

    I'm sure they're planning a major response….any….second….now.

    (/Fantasy)

  • HammerNH

    Submit to the oppressor.

    Appease the conqueror.

    Surely this recipe has been tried and succeeded before, right?

    Bow to Islam (not so fast President Urkel) or be attacked!

    THEY are at war.

    When will WE wake up?

  • baoxian

    Hey, has anybody else noticed that, suddenly, changing the street address of the former-cultural-center-that-used-to-be-known-as-Cordoba-House mosque has only become a worldwide terror threat since the Koran burning controversy heated up?

    Funny, nobody was screaming Death to America and burning US flags when Gov. Patterson invited Rauf for a sit-down (which he declined) to discuss the location of the mosque a couple weeks ago.

    • Rose

      It's back to Cordoba House, again, now, too.

  • RWNReader

    Yes America, just keep your gaze low, don't look him in the eye, no sudden moves, make yourself appear as docile as possible, let him finish his building and if you remain silent until he finishes, you will be spared…

  • UFKA_Smithwick

    “If Islam is so peaceful and only a “tiny minority’ of Muslims are “violent extremists”, why do we constantly have to be so damn sensitive to pissing them off?”

    This, this, a thousand times this!

  • TheDickNixon

    Perhaps our liberal friends can explain why the religion of peace is not peaceful.

    islam is not a religion. It is a pagan 7th century death cult. Nixon has repeatedly told everyone both here and on The Nixon Tape that islam is a cult.

    “let us build this mosque or we will kill you”. From the lips of a “iman”, whatever the fuck he is supposed to be, a man tight with Hamas, whose partner is linked to the Holy Land Foundation and Islamic Brotherhood, a threat.

    “Let me build it or you will die”.

    Nixon stated earlier that the mosque should be built as proposed, and if any money for it camoe from terrorists or their enablers the building should be burned to the ground and salt poured on the ground.

    Now a threat. Ain[t islam grand, it and its child humping prophet and ayatollah's.

  • firefirefire

    “We Gotta Build The Mosque At Ground Zero, Otherwise, Islamists Will Get Violent”

    oops..too late!

  • http://www.cavalierx.com CavalierX

    “btw, does anyone, other than gullible liberals, actually believe that the center will allow “separate prayer space for…..Christians, Jews and men and women of other faiths”?”

    Actually, I believe that, I really do. Muslims always welcome Christians and Jews… as third-class citizens, to be robbed, beaten, intimidated, overcharged and taxed at will by members of the Religion of Peace. They don't really want to convert or kill us all… we can become dhimmi and pay the jizya if we want to.

  • daveinboca

    As a fluent [long ago at 4-4] Arabist both in reading and speaking trained by US Dept. of State, I couldn’t agree more that the entire “religion of peace” is predicated on “Islam” the word for submission in Arabic, not only to God, but to his earthly representative, the Caliph. Extortion [lower taxes for the conquered unconverted] is built into Islamic DNA. I long ago came to the conclusion that at its core a sort of atavistic form of colonialism, but in the sense of caravan robbery which had long been a specialty of the Arabian peninsula before Mohammad started marrying six-year olds. The Arabs, ironically, are more semitic than the Jews, as there is no Thirteenth Tribe Turkish admixture to their gene pool — though the Turkish Mamelukes and Seljuks did spread more than military achievements among their population!

    As I see it, the Qu'ran burning is the best that the MSM can come up with this election year with a “Foley scandal.” No mention by Amanpour or NOW about the stoning of various female “adulterers” in Iraq.

    And this phony “imam” rauf is a representative of the Muslim Brotherhood and supports a terrorist oganization like Hamas, blames the US for 911, and the libturds blame patriotic Americans when patriots dislike his extortionate blackmail and fake religious credentials. His “legal arm” of CAIr is also a Hamas supporter. Just how far do the libturds and Hillarious Clytoon’s State Dept loons expect the American people, as opposed to the lumpenprole d-bags on the left, to support this travesty of good sense and insult to sane public policy. As a State Dept. trained Arabist, I’m aware that the terrorist minority of the Muslim world will consider this spurious “peace center” a memorial to the triumph of Osama and his suicidal boy-pals. They will consider the cringing cowardice of the libs as final proof that the US can be rolled by using its Fifth Column—called the Demonrat Party—to shirk the national security of the USA.

    My guess is that since non-Muslims will not be allowed inside, it will become a “nest of spies” like the delusional half-wits in Iran called the US Embassy.

    I agree with the 911 spouse of the murdered fireman who says move it further from the WTC memorial. Al rauf is the biggest threat to national security in the country. And burning a Qu’ran is NOTHING compared to erecting a memorial to an Islamic “victory” attained by deception, guile, and the dupe-PC idiocy of the Jamie Gorelicks and Janet Napolitanos of this country—add the self-described “mutt” POTUS to that list of security risks at the heart of the US govt. inaction and Obolshie is now showing his tin-ear is worse than we thought. I don't think he wants 8 years in the Oval Office.. The entire “religion of peace” is predicated on “Islam” the word for submission in Arabic, not only to God, but to his earthly representative, the Caliph. I long ago came to the conclusion that at its core a sort of atavistic form of colonialism, but in the sense of caravan robbery which had long been a specialty of the Arabian peninsula before Mohammad started marrying six-year olds. The Arabs, ironically, are more semitic than the Jews, as there is no Thirteenth Tribe Turkish admixture to their gene pool — though the Turkish Mamelukes and Seljuks did spread more than military achievements among their population!

    As I see it, the Qu'ran burning is the best that the MSM can come up with this election year with a “Foley scandal.” No mention by Amanpour or NOW about the stoning of various female “adulterers” in Iraq.

    And this phony “imam” rauf is a representative of the Muslim Brotherhood and supports a terrorist oganization like Hamas, blames the US for 911, and the libturds blame patriotic Americans when patriots dislike his extortionate blackmail and fake religious credentials. His “legal arm” of CAIr is also a Hamas supporter. Just how far do the libturds and Hillarious Clytoon’s State Dept loons expect the American people, as opposed to the lumpenprole d-bags on the left, to support this travesty of good sense and insult to sane public policy. As a State Dept. trained Arabist, I’m aware that the terrorist minority of the Muslim world will consider this spurious “peace center” a memorial to the triumph of Osama and his suicidal boy-pals. They will consider the cringing cowardice of the libs as final proof that the US can be rolled by using its Fifth Column—called the Demonrat Party—to shirk the national security of the USA.

    My guess is that since non-Muslims will not be allowed inside, it will become a “nest of spies” like the delusional half-wits in Iran called the US Embassy.

    I agree with the 911 spouse of the murdered fireman who says move it further from the WTC memorial. Al rauf is the biggest threat to national security in the country. And burning a Qu’ran is NOTHING compared to erecting a memorial to an Islamic “victory” attained by deception, guile, and the dupe-PC idiocy of the Jamie Gorelicks and Janet Napolitanos of this country—add the self-described “mutt” POTUS to that list of security risks at the heart of the US govt. inaction and Obolshie is now showing his tin-ear is worse than we thought. I don't think he wants 8 years in the Oval Office.

    • Rose

      Thank you so much for our contribution to this thread. It is greatly appreciated.
      God Almighty Jehovah bless Israel, and Jerusalem with Shalom Peace and Provision and Bounty.

  • CoolCzech

    Funny how D-Vega and whats_up don't care to post on this thread, huh?

    Christopher Hitchens recently wrote of the European muslim problem – how all the “peaceful” and “moderate” muslim “leaders” over there always make demands backed up with veil threats of how “extremists” might react violently if Muslim moderates aren't given their way.

    Do we really need to deal with this sort of medievalist thuggery in this country? Isn't it HIGH time we cut off the flow of immigration from a part of the world that is still living in the Dark Ages, with values utterly incompatible with ours??

  • Tennwriter

    Well, I saw part of the interview, and it looked like he condemned Hamas to me.

    • Rose

      The Hamas GUN RUNNER of the FREE GAZA FLOTILLA????????????

      You jest!

      Or something.

  • Rose

    That sounds like – YES – EXACTLY like – “WE have to pass the bill, so you can see what is in it!”

    LOL!

    TIME TO TAKE A FIRM STAND AGAINST ANY FALSE APPEARANCE OF A DHIMMI STANCE AROUND HERE!!!

  • nomoreapologies

    The way to make these Islamic Crazies insignificant is for the US to get off our dependence of foreign oil…

    Does any think our 'Founding Fathers' asked 'Do you think England will get mad?'

    Islam/Muslims are showing that they are very good at manipulation, playing the victim card (afraid of American Violence against Muslims, if we don't build the mosque there will be grave danger etc..) Who has such a 'hold' on Rauf that he would make such a statement anyway ??

    These people talk out of both sides of their mouths (just like all the leaders in the Middle east).

    I love when they speak of a muslim 'World' as though they all live in a 3rd dimension or something.

    We should just get out of Afghanistan, drill in anwar and stop bending over backwards for these cult members. Maybe they will go back to the middle east and create their own 'world'.

    • mightysamurai

      The way to make these Islamic Crazies insignificant is for the US to get off our dependence of foreign oil…

      Even if we could do that, if we don't buy the oil someone else will. For starters, India and China are rapidly industrializing and they'll need all the oil they can get. More than enough for the Middle East to make up for losing us as customers. And the terrorists will still hate us whether we're buying their oil or not.

  • Yrtu

    >refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization.
    except that he did.
    >open the books about where all the money is coming from.
    he did that too… fyi: none of it is from terrorists and much of it is from the second largest shareholder in fox news.

  • johnRN

    the 9-11 mosque is a transparent attempt to open a focal point for radical islam in the US.this is a” stelth”form of holy war against the west and our values. take off the kid gloves and deal with these thugs in kind,

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