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Sarah Palin And Identity Politics: Using The Left’s Standards Against Them
Written By : Melissa Clouthier

Identity politics grate on most conservatives, or they did until Sarah Palin came along. Most conservatives who loved Sarah Palin, didn’t love her because she was the best looking woman on TV–forget in politics. Most conservatives loved her conservative ideals and her connection to average Americans.

And her ideals, connection, and her beauty, provoked rage on the left. Still does. And so, they attacked her and her family. Nothing was out of bounds. Major news organizations were reduced to screaming like gossip rags. It was disgusting.

It was sexist. It was classist. It was everything the Democrats and leftists claim to be against.

And so, conservatives started fighting back. Every perceived slight, injustice, denigration, and revealing act of hate was highlighted and pushed into the liberal left’s face. It was galling to see feminist women defend the treatment Sarah Palin received. It was embarrassing, as a woman, that this sort of thing still flew–that women would be reduced to their own worst caricature: catty, vicious, and petty toward other women.

Liberals now wonder why conservatives jump to play the sexism card. Are they kidding? After decades of excoriating men for their piggish ways, after whole reeducation programs at work about what is, and what is not, “appropriate” behavior, these clucking, self-righteous people wonder why their own, politically correct rules are being turned on them now?

And yet, they seem incapable of seeing how Sarah Palin has been savaged in the media. There is a concerted lack of empathy and certainly no such thing as fairness.

The liberals have done more to push back the treatment of women than any conservative man. The cliché is that conservative men are backward, sexist cretins, just one step beyond knuckle-dragging missing links while liberals are enlightened, open, tolerant, loving righteous people. So when liberals engage in rank sexism and then defend the obnoxious behavior, it sets things back for all people trying to be judged for the content of their character.

Liberal men and women have been the sexist police for years. They are the knitting circle ladies waiting for an infraction and smacking the hairy knuckles hard for failing to obey the p.c. rules. But when push comes to shove, they’ll use any method, including demeaning and sexist methods, to achieve their political ends.

Conservatives won’t stop calling liberals on their sexist ways. Why should they? Political correctness is used as a cudgel against conservatives. Every conservative is one “macaca” or Strom Thurmond praising speech away from being banished for life while liberals can spew any vile word and not only be not vilified, but praised for their actions–as long as it’s a conservative who’s on the receiving end of the hate.

Identity politics have a pernicious effect on an achievement culture. People are elevated based on color or ovaries or culture or whatever the p.c. police believe lacks. So more qualified people are looked over in favor of superficial characteristics. This is the world the left has wrought.

Their pique at perceiving Sarah Palin as just such a candidate is really too much. They created identity politics. Now, they can live with the rules they created.

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  • TheBaud

    NOW and other Liberal women’s groups have no problem with the attacks on Sarah Palin and her family; for the same two reasons that they had no problem with Bill Clinton’s serial sexual harassment and attacks on women:
    1) Because they hate the victims and feel they should be attacked for their beliefs
    2) Because to these groups, politics trumps what they proport to stand for

  • Mike_M

    The essence of the liberal political playbook and Alinsky tactics is intimidation. Step out of line and you’ll be ridiculed. Do it again and you’ll be threatened, then personally attacked.

    Palin’s treatment followed this to the letter. But instead of backing down and falling in line, she went right back at the liberals, shooting down their attacks, taking her message to the people her way, launching her own media event, and exposing some of the people who went after her along the way.

    Because the left can not challenge Palin on ideas, all they have left is reflexive fear and hatred. She survived and thrived after they threw everything at her, and that terrifies them. They’re even more afraid because she has a record of accomplishment and is viewed realistically by her supporters (contrasted to the deification of the empty suit Obama and the endless list of accolades he neither earned nor deserves).

  • http://www.comics.com/editoons/asay/ Zheldon

    I never hear anyone discuss her policy views. At most I have heard she did not know how to handle the media. I’ll admit that one, it must be different dealing with local media compared to national media.

    That is one skill that can be easily learned. Our current president is still undergoing his on the job training and failing miserably at it. Sadly the kind of training our current one needs can only be taught with actual work and time invested in experience. He has done neither all his life and we do not have the time for him to learn (or not learn) from failure.

  • whats_up

    Because the left can not challenge Palin on ideas

    Posted by Mike_M
    2009-11-24 10:37:00

    That is because besides her “drill, baby drill” she hasnt expressed any ideas. When asked how she would handle Iran, she confused Iran with Iraq, seriously how do you mix the two up after all this time. Mike explain to us what her ideas are and then we can debate.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    explain to us what her ideas are and then we can debate.
    Posted by whats_up
    2009-11-24 11:51:57

    Explain about David Duke and George Bush first.

  • http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

    That is because besides her “drill, baby drill” she hasnt expressed any ideas.

    Just because you refuse to pay attention doesn’t mean she hasn’t expressed any ideas.

  • Mike_M

    “That is because besides her “drill, baby drill” she hasnt expressed any ideas.”

    And for that she’s such a mortal threat to Obama and the Dems that she, as a private citizen, is continually attacked and now has a $500,000 price on her head compliments of the White House?

    Watching you liberals panic never gets old.

  • whats_up

    Posted by Mike_M
    2009-11-24 12:28:06

    I notice you couldnt articulate any of her ideas. Mike can you tell us what her ideas are so that they can be debated? First you whine that liberals wont debate her on the ideas, then when given the opportunity you cant even tell us what her policy ideas are, typical conservative.

  • TheBaud

    First you whine that liberals wont debate her on the ideas, then when given the opportunity you cant even tell us what her policy ideas are, typical conservative.
    Posted by whats_up 2009-11-24 12:38:50

    Just yesterday, you and D-Vega were telling us her ideas were out there and had been roundly defeated in the last Presidential election. Now you are saying she has no ideas.

    Well?

  • Palin_will_lose

    Watching you liberals panic never gets old.

    Posted by Mike_M
    2009-11-24 12:28:06

    Watching the right play the victim card never gets old either.

    Can you go into more detail than drill baby drill or small govt good, taxes bad. Please tell us sport.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Can you go into more detail than drill baby drill or small govt good, taxes bad. Please tell us sport.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 12:46:27

    Google is your friend.

  • Palin_will_lose

    So YOU cant. Good to know.

  • http://www.comics.com/editoons/asay/ Zheldon

    No, I think he just doesn’t want to feed the trolls.

    I don’t really blame him though. People like you wont listen or read anything that doesn’t agree to your preconceived ideas. So why would providing links and other text work to influence trolls like you?

    It wont. Nothing will. You will only come back with little insults and topic changers.

  • sabiticus

    So you ignorant little trolls can at least no longer have an excuse for not knowing Palin’s stances:

    http://www.conservapedia.com/Sarah_Palin

    Although I fully expect you leftards to keep saying that you don’t know what her stances are. Repeating the lie, even in the face of absolute evidence, is th eleftist way.

  • Tennwriter

    Just finished this morning her memoir with policy book, Going Rogue.

    She favors getting rid of death taxes, cutting capital gains taxes.

    She favors spending on infrastructure to enable businessess to grow (in Wasilla that was paving roads.)

    She favors getting rid of corruption (In Juneau, that was the much lauded by Democrats, getting rid of the Republican ‘Corrupt Bastards Club’).

    She’s against earmarks, even for her own state.

    She’s into personal frugality for governmental officials, having taken a pay cut as mayor, and having sold the governor’s jet.

    She aligns herself quite clearly with Ronald Reagan, the greatest president of the Twentieth Century (He even surpasses Calvin Coolidge.)

    She’s willing to raise taxes for specified goals. Its a ‘you voters want this big ticket item built, then you have to agree to fund it’ approach. Mostly, I’m of the ‘no, let’s not’, but I do appreciate being asked, and I do appreciate the fact that asking government to do things without paying for them can be a problem (of course, cutting taxes is more important than cutting expenses in my book, but both are neccessary.)

    Read her book. Some have said that she’s not going to go further because she did not write a policy book. Nah. This book cleared away a lot of the rubbish, and it got into some policy issues as well besides being a good read.

    If you do actually bother to read her book, you’ll find lots of policy ideas in outline form, and some practical application of her ideas as well.

  • Palin_will_lose

    It wont. Nothing will. You will only come back with little insults and topic changers.
    Posted by Zheldon
    2009-11-24 13:02:55

    Speaking about topic changers.

    Explain about David Duke and George Bush first.
    Posted by Dick_Nixon
    2009-11-24 12:09:51

    Look if Palin was my choice It would be hard for me to pin any details in-between winks too. But really why so much slack on mixing up Iran/Iraq. It should be easy we are at war with one. Someone please have that balls to say If Obama did the same thing you would be cool with it.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 13:21:42

    Look fuckwad, don’t involve yourself in a discussion that you are not a part of. Or, are you whats_up sockpuppet?

    And your statement is incorrect, we are not involved in a way with Iraq. WTF are you talking about? Iraq is an allie of the US.

    Thanks for playing, SMF. Your messiah is fucking up this country daily, yet you are here talking shit about a private citizen. Why? Nice talking points you spew, been to Ko$ today?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    war not way.

  • Palin_will_lose

    Posted by Tennwriter
    2009-11-24 13:10:22

    Thank you

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Look if Palin was my choice

    What is Palin runnig for again? Can you link her announcement of any candidacy.

  • Mike_M

    “Please tell us sport.”

    Why? Let’s assume she has no ideas. Say she’s an ignorant slut unqualified to do anything except wink and drop folksy catch-phrases as the liberals contend.

    How does that explain the utterly terrified and unhinged reaction to her from the left? Why is Obama personally raising money to attack her?

    One does not put so much time, effort, and money into defeating a nobody. Your inability to define a mortal enemy of your ideology says a hell of a lot more that I suspect you’re comfortable admitting. You fear what you do not understand.

  • TheBaud

    Someone please have that balls to say If Obama did the same thing you would be cool with it.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose 2009-11-24 13:21:42

    Obama said there were 57 states in America and he still got elected. Drop the petty BS, Palin_will_lose.

  • Palin_will_lose

    Look fuckwad
    Posted by Dick_Nixon
    2009-11-24 13:27:16

    It wont. Nothing will. You will only come back with little insults and topic changers.
    Posted by Zheldon
    2009-11-24 13:02:55

    I see what you are talking about Zheldon. But its your “team” doing it.

    Dick since when do I need your ok to post here? For that matter why do I care if a crooked dead president says, I cant or shouldn’t.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    For that matter why do I care if a crooked dead president says, I cant or shouldn’t.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 13:42:48

    Nixon could care less if you post here or not. No, you don’t need Nixon’s permission. However, don’t cry to Baud over Nixon. Sack up if you have issues. Don’t hide behind other posters.

  • Palin_will_lose

    Obama said there were 57 states in America and he still got elected. Drop the petty BS, Palin_will_lose.
    Posted by TheBaud
    2009-11-24 13:36:26

    And thats my point A year after Obama said something stupid you cant let it go. Palin Mixes up two country’s. One we are occupying and silence from the right. Care to explain?

  • TheBaud

    Posted by Palin_will_lose2009-11-24 13:49:06

    The difference is that Obama and Biden-the-Gaffe-Machine have said and continue to say stupid things; and brain-dead liberal zombies like you could care less. But a private citizen mixes up the name of two countries and you want to make a federal case out of it. There were calendars and website of gaffes made by George Bush. Why none for Obama? Can you answer that?

    Oh, and that was a nice touch, criticizing Dick_Nixon for his posting name. Your’s being so much more clever and sophisticated.

  • whats_up

    She’s against earmarks, even for her own state.

    This is simply not true. Palin while mayor of Wasilla hired a company specifically to obtain earmarks for the town. Also during her tenure as governor Alaska requested earmarks in the amount of 197 million dollars. Once again we have Palin not quite remembering the truth.

    She’s into personal frugality for governmental officials, having taken a pay cut as mayor, and having sold the governor’s jet.

    While she did sell the previous Gov’s jet, it is not true that she took a pay cut as mayor. When she was first elected mayor the salary was $64,000, when she left that office she was making $68,000 how is that a pay cut? Also I am not sure that she is into personal frugality. As mayor of Wasilla she proposed that the city buy her a new Suburban to the tune of about $25,000, she also charged the state for travel expenses incured for her children on trips that they were not invited to. Once again selective memory by Palin.

    However at least you could articulate some of the ideas that she has, some of which I agree with. So thanks Tenn

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by whats_up
    2009-11-24 13:59:26

    Any chance on that f’n proof Nixon has asked you for the last two and a half years, lying pos that you are.

  • NorthernCanuck

    Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 13:49:06

    Sir / Ma’am: You stated if Palin’s points were posted you would debate them. They have been posted. I was looking forward to a policy point / counter point. Is that still coming?

  • Palin_will_lose

    But a private citizen
    Posted by TheBaud
    2009-11-24 13:54:20

    I like how you do that. I guess Her being a former gov means nothing, or the VP choice on a losing ticket. That must = squat as well. Rush calls Palin memoir “one of the most substantive policy books I’ve read”

    All from someone who cant tell 2 major country’s apart. So in short bla bla bla.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    All from someone who cant tell 2 major country’s apart. So in short bla bla bla.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 14:07:39

    And what exactly are you qualifications to pass judgement on Palin, other than being dufus leftist?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    your not you

  • NorthernCanuck

    All from someone who cant tell 2 major country’s apart. So in short bla bla bla.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose

    She misspoke. If it means that she truly can’t tell the two countries apart, then the President truly doesn’t know how many states are in the Union.
    Your main thing against Palin seems to be that gaffe. Are you holding Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden to the same standard?

  • Palin_will_lose

    Sure getting past the other BS Canuck.

  • TheBaud

    All from someone who cant tell 2 major country’s apart. So in short bla bla bla.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose 2009-11-24 14:07:39

    Coming from a person who supports a President that thinks there are 57 states in America, I will consider the source.

  • Mike_M

    “When she was first elected mayor the salary was $64,000, when she left that office she was making $68,000 how is that a pay cut?”

    Her yearly pay went down twice and went up twice while in office. She voted against the salary increases while on the City Council and passed an ordinance as mayor, which was overridden by another council vote.

    But keep nitpicking over a truthful statement about $4000 in pay (she did irrefutibly cut her pay twice even though it went back up) while Obama continues to blow trillions of dollars and mortgage the future of the country to give utterly corrupt payoffs to his buddies in non-existent Congressional districts.

  • Mike_M

    All politicians make verbal gaffes and misstatements. I like to look at records.

    Palin has a record of executive leadership, and she left her state with billions of dollars in the bank upon leaving office.

    Obama ran a chapter of ACORN before winning a Senate seat unopposed because Seven of Nine’s husband was a pervert. He’s managed to blow trillions of dollars in record time (directly attributable to him, unlike even statistics such as the skyrocketing unemployment rate), and has proved an indecisive embarassment in foreign policy.

    Did we mention that Palin is on a book tour as a private citizen while Obama is President of the United States?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by Mike_M
    2009-11-24 14:14:22

    Being liberals Mike they are incapable of saying anything bad about their messiah. Hypocrites is what whats_up (aka Sockpuppet erectus) and this other new clown that washed up here today are.

    They are scared. Go to every conservative political website and the liberals are doing and saying the exact same thing. Bunch of lemmings is what they are. They get their talking points and hit the web daily.

    Fear drives them.

  • NorthernCanuck

    Sure getting past the other BS Canuck.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose

    Que?

  • Palin_will_lose

    “She favors getting rid of death taxes, cutting capital gains taxes.”

    I can get behind no death taxes. She wants to cut Capital gains taxes, great how much and when? Will she cut them for all or just a select few?

    “She favors spending on infrastructure to enable businessess to grow (in Wasilla that was paving roads.)”

    This is a good thing. It looks bad when American bridges just fall down.

    “She’s against earmarks, even for her own state.”

    But yet she pulls more earmark cash per person than any other state.

    She’s into personal frugality for governmental officials, having taken a pay cut as mayor, and having sold the governor’s jet.

    Whats up has a point If you make more money from when you started its a pay raise not a cut. Kudos on selling the jet BTY.

    She aligns herself quite clearly with Ronald Reagan, the greatest president of the Twentieth Century (He even surpasses Calvin Coolidge.)

    Reagan is a stud no lie I liked the man. Palin cant hold a candle to him. I would love to see that debate. Reagan would beat her like its the 50′s and dinner was not ready by 7. I dare you go listen to a Reagan speech then a Palin one and tell me who is better. If you think Palin is the next Reagan your standards have fallen…….. very far.

  • NorthernCanuck

    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 14:40:58

    I’m confused, you now come across as a Palin fan. Why do you think she will lose?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    If you think Palin is the next Reagan your standards have fallen…….. very far.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 14:40:58

    A liberal who supports both Reagan and Obama. Methinks you are full of feces. Thanks for playing.

  • TheBaud

    Thanks for playing.
    Posted by Dick_Nixon 2009-11-24 14:47:43

    Sorry to go off topic here, Dick_Nixon, but did D-Vega ever answer your question from yesterday like he promised he would?

  • Mike_M

    “If you think Palin is the next Reagan your standards have fallen…….. very far.”

    I’m fascinated with the liberal need to project your messiah worship of Obama onto Palin. Conservatives are excited about her, but I fail to recall that level of hyperbolic praise for her. Nobody has seriously compared her to Reagan. People aren’t falling down in religious extacy at her appearances. She hasn’t won the Nobel Peace Prize or been given a black belt in any martial art.

    She is, however, the only conservative willing to step up, take the lumps, and make the case for conservative principles. Unless others are willing to do the same she wins by default.

  • whats_up

    Posted by Mike_M
    2009-11-24 14:14:22

    Once again you show how you are about style over substance. It is simple math, if you make more money when you leave office than when you began, you got a pay raise not a cut. Now if she had stated that she voted against a pay raise well and good, but she claims that she took a pay cut, not true. Facts matter Mike, she didnt take a pay cut, she might have wanted to, she might have voted for it while on the city council, then simply state those things. However to claim that you took a cut when all of those things are public record is asinine, and shows her true character. Reminds me of the dust up over Todd joining that group that was advocating for Alaska to leave the union. The fact is that he did join, however she wanted the McCain camp to issue a statement saying that Todd didnt join, instead of saying that they disagreed with that part of the parties platform, shows a lack of character. This is not the first time this has occured, have you noticed how all her failing are not her fault, but the fault of others, always, pathetic.

  • Palin_will_lose

    Just because I dont hate any/everything she says like many on the right do with Obama. Dont think for a second that I want Palin to win anything more than all you can eat rib contest.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by TheBaud
    2009-11-24 14:48:52

    Nope. Ran like a little bitch.

  • TheBaud

    Posted by whats_up 2009-11-24 15:11:30

    You never tire of lecturing the Right for things done commonly by the Left.

    “style over substance” – Perfectly describes both the Obama and Clinton administrations. And this is the third day in a row you have thrown out that accusation. Go suck on D-Vega some more and maybe he’ll give you a new talking point to play with.
    “all her failing are not her fault, but the fault of others” = Obama to a tee. Never taking blame for anything? Air Force One? Civilian trials for terrorists? Personal attacks on Palins family? None of it his fault, always others.

    I just love see how you and the Left want to throw personal attacks against a private citizen. Says much about your lack of character.

  • http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

    I’m confused, you now come across as a Palin fan. Why do you think she will lose?

    He doesn’t know what he thinks. He only knows what other liberals tell him. They say Palin = bad, so he’s decided he hates her and wants her to lose.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by whats_up
    2009-11-24 15:11:30

    Got my proof, bitch?

  • http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

    Once again you show how you are about style over substance.

    Yeah, because preferring politicians that actually do things instead of giving pretty speeches is really valuing style over substance.

    You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  • Palin_will_lose

    A liberal who supports both Reagan and Obama. Methinks you are full of feces. Thanks for playing.
    Posted by Dick_Nixon
    2009-11-24 14:47:43

    So when did I become a Liberal. They are 20% of the population. I understand you people dont like moderates, 100% or nothing is best practice to a pure party.

    But on the other side of the fence you can be pro choice or against abortion and you are still in the party. So dick if you want to label anyone who will not share your narrow view of the world a liberal go for it……… But you are wrong and look foolish.

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    The problem with Alinsky’s tactics is that they force potential allies into enemies and make people very angry and hurt. Its part of the marxist “the ends justify the means” ethical pragmatism, and in the end it causes the divide in the nation we’re seeing as well as real harm to families, friendships, and the culture as a whole. When you march like Sherman through the middle of American culture and history burning and destroying in an attempt to win, what will be left, even if you win? Is it really worth it, lefties?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    I understand you people dont like moderates,

    Like Arlen Specter? Nope, don’t like them one bit Sparky.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    But on the other side of the fence you can be pro choice or against abortion and you are still in the party.

    Well, then have fun with them. Personally, Nixon opposes murdering children.

  • Palin_will_lose

    And that is your choice, Dick. As I remember the right was very happy Specter left, Purge, purge and more purge.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Purge, purge and more purge.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 15:46:25

    You got a point or are you going to strawman the rest of the day? You start off bad mouthing Palin, and now have wondered off to how you “moderates” are mis treated. Do you have a point? If so, spit it out.

  • Mike_M

    “Once again you show how you are about style over substance.”

    Wrong. She said she took a pay cut as mayor, which is correct. She did not say she took a decrease in pay over her term in office.

    This is what the left is reduced to. Really? Your best argument against Palin is a $4000 raise over the course of six years when she accepted not one, but two pay cuts over that time?

    How much of the $500,000 did Obama give you to come up with that pathetic and phony attack?

  • TheBaud

    As I remember the right was very happy Specter left, Purge, purge and more purge.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose 2009-11-24 15:46:25

    Any thoughts on how your side treated Joe Lieberman?

  • TheBaud

    But on the other side of the fence you can be pro choice or against abortion and you are still in the party.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose 2009-11-24 15:34:57

    Please name for me all the anti-abortion Democrats currently in Congress.

  • whats_up

    Wrong. She said she took a pay cut as mayor, which is correct. She did not say she took a decrease in pay over her term in office.

    Posted by Mike_M
    2009-11-24 15:49:41

    Ah yes Mike, the silly word games that you conservatives like to play, we all see through it Mike, deep down so do you. We understand that Palin was trying to prove how fisically responsible she was, and how she would sacrifice for the good of the whole. You’re just pissed that it didnt turn out that way. Mike once again lets explain how simple it is, if you make more than you did when you came in, that is not cutting your pay, that is getting a raise, no other way to slice it. It is amusing to watch you try and spin it. That is the problem with conservatives, you assume everyone is as dumbfuck stupid as you are.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    That is the problem with conservatives, you assume everyone is as dumbfuck stupid as you are.
    Posted by whats_up
    2009-11-24 16:10:20

    IF we are so stupid why are you here using multiple user names? You got my proof yet bitchboy?

  • BIG

    But on the other side of the fence you can be pro choice or against abortion and you are still in the party.
    Posted by Palin_will_lose 2009-11-24 15:34:57

    Yet you have no problem with being pro abortion and anti death penalty?

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Posted by whats_up
    2009-11-24 16:10:20

    Why do all of your arguments have the same written format? Same structure, words, and statements. It is almost like you are a sockpuppet of someone with a differing posting style altogether. Your drivel seems forced. Are you at a wifi cafe or truckstop by chance?

  • Mike_M

    “Mike once again lets explain how simple it is, if you make more than you did when you came in, that is not cutting your pay, that is getting a raise, no other way to slice it.”

    Only she didn’t say she made less when she left office than when she began. She said she took a pay cut. Let’s examine her salary:

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/palin-salary-request/

    Two pay cuts, two increases, and no increases her last three years on the job. Her pay was cut as mayor. Simple fact.

    I’m simply stating the truth. You’re the one panicking in abject terror that you’ve been caught in yet another lie. Trying to bait me into ad homenim attacks won’t change that.

  • whats_up

    Posted by Mike_M
    2009-11-24 16:20:37

    Like I said Mike, spin it anyway you want. We know what message she was trying to get across and we know what happened. If she was serious about “taking a pay cut” she could have donated that part of her salary to charity. If she was serious about sacrificing for the good of the whole like she is trying to portray that would have been an easy call. Typical conservative.

  • http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

    Typical conservative.
    Posted by whats_up
    2009-11-24 16:46:36

    We give more to charity than liberals, my gay sock puppet Nazi loving friend.

  • TheBaud

    We know what message she was trying to get across and we know what happened. If she was serious about “taking a pay cut” she could have donated that part of her salary to charity. If she was serious about sacrificing for the good of the whole like she is trying to portray that would have been an easy call. Typical conservative.
    Posted by whats_up 2009-11-24 16:46:36

    And now you are trying mind-reading?

    Give it a rest, whats_up. She said she took a pay-cut as mayor. The facts presented back that up. You lose. I’d think you’d be used to that by now!

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    And still the left cannot challenge Sarah Palin on her ideas, all they can do is hold her to standards they don’t even expect their own side to attempt to stand by.

  • http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

    If she was serious about sacrificing for the good of the whole like she is trying to portray that would have been an easy call. Typical conservative.
    Posted by whats_up 2009-11-24 16:46:36

    Since that is obviously very high on your priority list, provide the information that shows how Obama personally sacrificed for the good of the country. Since that is obviously not the case, perhaps you can explain why you voted for Obama despite the fact that he did not make any of the sacrifices you PRETEND to care about.

    Your sexist fear of strong women is noted.

  • Mike_M

    “Typical conservative.”

    Yes, telling the truth.

    Thanks for bringing up charitable giving by the way. The Palin’s gave more than the Obama’s and Biden’s combined in 2007 and 2008.

    Little wonder the cheapskate messiah is blowing trillions of dollars other people’s money in payouts to his buddies.

  • BIG

    Yet when Obama became a state senator and passed a bill that gave his wife’s employer several million dollars, the left doesn’t care that Michele’s salary tripled???

  • http://andrightlyso.com/2009/11/24/links-and-thanksgiving/ And Rightly So… » Blog Archive » Links and Thanksgiving

    [...] Right Wing News, Melissa Clouthier notes now conservatives are starting to give liberals a taste of their own medicine, when it comes to [...]

  • http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

    That is the problem with conservatives, you assume everyone is as dumbfuck stupid as you are.
    Posted by whats_up
    2009-11-24 16:10:20

    You’re the fucking retard playing word games, she TOOK 2 PAYCUTS, how much would her pay have been if she hadn’t taken those two cuts? You’re playing numbers games and you’re being proven the usual lying hypocrit that you always are.

    Go play in traffic WU, preferrably at rush hour.

  • http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

    Yet when Obama became a state senator and passed a bill that gave his wife’s employer several million dollars, the left doesn’t care that Michele’s salary tripled???

    And then when she left the job they suddenly decided it was unnecessary.

  • CoolCzech

    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-11-24 15:34:57

    WILL she lose, REALLY?

    You Lefties seem to have more confidence in her electability, frankly, than a lot of conservatives like me that keep expressing some doubts about her.

    Let me tell you this:

    1. As of today, Palin could have the Republican Nomination for 2012 without breaking a sweat.

    2. IF – and forecasting the future is always tricky business – unemployment remains in double digit territory by 2012, Obama will be political dead meat.

    Put One and Two Together, Buddy.

    By the way, Lefties: the surest way to ensure unemployment remains sky high for years to come in to enact some of Bambi’s more radical Leftist Lunacy, such as a “public option” that neatly adds $2.5 trillion to an already staggering deficit and therefore requires incredible tax increases. Or, for that matter, so-called “Cap & Trade” Taxation.

    Really, you Lefties that pray Palin doesn’t become President ought to hope the Republicans storm Congress in 2010: they are your last hope of saving Obama from himself. By reining in his more radical schemes, they’ll make sure he doesn’t utterly destroy the United States economy.

    But I’ll give you guys ANOTHER Clue: you guys are making a boogeyman out of the WRONG PERSON. I don’t think Palin is the “hard right” politician you think she is. She’s never said straight up she’s opposed to amnesty, for example. I’ll wager she’s NOT. And her record in Alaska doesn’t show her up to be the Fascist that – for example – the Mao Quoters in the current White House are. Socially, she’s opposed to abortion, but so what? Presidents have no real power over that. More salient from your point of view SHOULD be the reaction to her daughter’s illegitimate baby: she loves her daughter and accepted what happened as life. That’s called pragmatism and compassion.

    And do you know what the BIG difference between Palin and Obama would have been on – for example – Afghanistan? Palin would have given McChrystal the 40,000 troops he asked for, instead of just 34,000. Big Deal. BUT, she wouldn’t have taken a freaking year to settle on a strategy. PALIN would be DECISIVE.

    So you liberals keep chasing your tails, all the time after the wrong Republican. All that attention you keep giving her is energizing her base, and I love it.

  • Tennwriter

    Palin Will Lose,
    You’re welcome.

    Let me try to deal with a few points raised in the subsequent discussion, and perhaps add a bit more.

    Earmarks. She’s made the point that Alaska is a young state, and it has a long way to go to catch up in infrastructure. She’s also said that she thinks that Alaska is getting better, and the balance needs to shift toward Alaska being more helpful to the other states.

    She does not claim that Wasilla made no request for earmarks so the claim she’s a liar is off-base. From the read, she’s a surprisingly pragmatic politician. She has principles which guide her, but she’s not doctrinaire about it in general.

    She did say Alaska had an 85% cut in earmarks (if I’m remembering this right.)

    The travel expenses for her children were 1)less than previous governors who had fewer children. 2)Acceptable within the guidelines (which guidelines were admitted vague and circular.) 3)IMO, not unreasonable. If you ‘take your daughter to work’ on the day dedicated to that, does the company charge you rent for her chair in your office? Of course not.

    My governor here in Tennessee is Phil Bredesen. I, somewhat to the right of Rush, voted for this Democrat twice. If the DNC had been smart, it would be President Bredesen right now, and he’s have a steady 65% approval rate, and he’s be a shoo-in in 2012. Palin would have no chance of beating him in 2012.

    If he wanted to fly from Nashville to Memphis on the State’s Prisoner Transport Plane (if thats what he uses. I don’t know what he does. I do know that TN is a LOT smaller than Alaska.), and there was a spare seat, and he wanted to bring his young daughter (if he has one.) on it…..Soooooo???? Why should I, a partisan Republican care?

    I apply the same standard with Tasergate. If Bredesen fired a state trooper in the exact same situation as Palin did, I hope that I would take a quick look at it, weigh things, and shrug, or even offer small praise of Bredesen. I want my governor, be he D or R, to slap down pschyo cops. And trust me, Bredesen is cold steel in a suit jacket…

    Conservatives adore Reagan. You might say we elevate him to Saint status if we are Catholics. But I’m quite aware that he made mistakes. Liberals adore Obama, and some treat him as a god. There is a considerable difference between “Wow, he’s a really great guy!” and “Guide me, Master.” Palin has potential. She could be another Reagan.

    The enthusiasm in some part is less ‘Wow, she’s so great’ and in good part ‘Finally, not another loser wuss like the last ten guys.’ Conservatives have a tragic view of humanity, but we’d prefer not to be so thoroughly vindicated in our understanding of the Doctrine of Original Sin and the Fallibility of Man.

    Mike M is correct.

    She’s also for transparency and for development of energy resources. I’ve heard libs say how oil companies sit on leases for long times, and I tended to discount it because (don’t be mad) a lib said it. But Palin corroborated this account. She said ExxonMobil was sitting on their Point Thompson leases, and so she forced the situation open, and got the development moving. And as for transparency, she had the various proposals for the gasline set out on a table for the press and the people to get at instead of keeping it all behind closed doors.

    I could see her ordering the building of the Hoover Dam. She’s that type of politician.

  • Tennwriter

    CoolCzech is right too.

    After reading the book, she managed to 1)Clear away the brush and garbage. 2)Introduce herself to the reader. 3)Gain the confidence of the reader (Yeah, she’s ordinary, but she’s uber. She and Todd are in many ways what the typical American wants to be, but can’t manage.)

    When Todd Palin explains to Sarah that her whim of entering the Iron Dog race is not going to work….he asks her if she can lift the back end of a six hundred pound snowmachine stuck in ice, while standing in thigh-high water in 40 below….Every American guy wants to be THAT guy. Y’know…John McClane. That’s uber.

    4)Give some idea of her principles and their realization in practice.

    I think in a year or two, she delivers another book. This second book is going to be policy heavy. Those who think she’s not going after the presidency because she didn’t deliver a policy heavy book need to do two things. 1)Actually read the book. There’s a good bit in there. I haven’t hit everything. 2)She has to clear past the ‘she’s a moron’ stuff and ‘she’s evil’ stuff before she can get anyone to listen to her policy ideas.

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