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A “Meet The Press” Teleconference with Newt Gingrich
Written By : John Hawkins

Newt Gingrich, who’s still getting pancaked by conservatives for his harsh comments about the Ryan plan on Meet the Press, has been doing full throttle damage control efforts since then. Today, he did a new media teleconference. I was in on that and what follows are notes, not quotes, from the teleconference.

Opening Remarks from Newt Gingrich

Obviously, the Meet the Press comments were more controversial that I intended.

#1) My comments about food stamps were not, as Gregory claimed, racist.

#2) I oppose Obamacare on every front. There’s 2 1/2 years of background showing I oppose it.

#3) If the country were opposed to the Ryan plan, should we do it? I said “no” and used language that was too strong. I should have used different language.

Since then, I have signed a pledge to repeal Obamacare. I also oppose the mandate. That being said, I do think we should find a way to get people to pay for the healthcare they get.

I have reached out to Paul Ryan, I want to work with the House Republicans, and I want to increase the number of Republicans elected in Congress in 2012.

Q&A Session

You’ve changed your positions on Libya, Cap and Trade, and you were specifically targeting Ryan’s plan. Are you flip-flopping here?

I have never supported cap and trade in its current form. On Libya, my position changed when the President’s position changed. I have written a column in favor of Ryan’s position. I have been for it.

I think conservatives need to be aware that we are proposing large scale change. We need to make sure that the American people support it, not seek to impose it over people.

You said in an interview a couple of weeks previous to that interview that you would vote for Paul Ryan’s plan. Would you still vote for it?

Yes. The challenge is making sure the American people want it. If they want it, we should support it.

Follow-up: Is it possible to separate the budget from the Ryan plan?

Yes. The Left wants to freeze us in place. Obama’s only chance is picking a fight with the Congress and being Harry Truman in 1948. If we win in 2012, we can push a bold, decisive plan in early 2013, but we can’t get it passed right now.

Can you talk in more detail about your differences with Paul Ryan?

I would offer, on a voluntary basis, some kind of support plan this year. When we did the 1996 thing, we did a lot of polling. Seniors like to have the right to be told that they have the right to choose, but they hate to be told they have to choose.

Part of what I am worried about is compelling people to go through a radical change that hasn’t been tested. Let people choose between the plans and make Obama stop it.

Medicare is a program in which you are faced with daily decisions that impact people’s lives. Health care is 10 times more complicated than national security.

I shouldn’t have allowed Gregory to set the terms to question. I see no reason we can’t all say, “The Ryan plan is a terrific start and we want the American people to join us in the process.”

Medicare is not like anything else. It’s something people really take personally. Had I understood how it would be heard, I would have said, “I’m proud of Paul for starting the process.”

Democrats have already announced they’re going to use your comments in ads. Reaction?

I’ll be glad to cut an ad for anybody who gets hit with an ad like that calling it a lie and saying that the Democrats have nothing to offer but fear.

The narrative from your critics is Newt is undisciplined. Is it fair?

The fair criticism that I’ve been an analyst and tried out ideas is fair. I probably should have gone in more hostile to Gregory. The whole show was a set-up and I should have handled it differently.

What about the mandate in 1993? Also, are you good enough on TV?

Well, I was explaining the position that was happening 20 years ago. It was a different time. I do a lot of talking, but sometimes, you’ll have a bad week. It happens.

You are stressing that you are against the imposition of the Ryan plan. How specifically is the Ryan plan coming from the Right?

I am very concerned about attitudes that say, “We’re really smart, but people are really stupid, and we have to do this to them.” You can’t think about driving something through without popular support. I don’t support a group imposing something on the American people that will change their behavior, without their approval. It’s a bad idea.

If the American people say, “I want to sign up for the Ryan plan,” it is precisely what the system is supposed to do. We need to do this with approval. We need to seek the popular will. The Founding Fathers understood that. We have to have the people with us. I am just saying to some of our friends, we need the people with us.

Summary: I am not a diehard Newt Gingrich supporter or someone who’s blind to his flaws, but I will say that painting Newt Gingrich as a RINO is faintly ridiculous. Over the last 30 years, when I think of the 3 men who were most important to moving the ball forward for conservatism, they’ve been Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, and Newt Gingrich. That being said, the way he characterized Ryan’s plan on Meet the Press was a mistake. He admits as much. I think people should just leave it at that without trying to draw some over reaching conclusion about Gingrich’s sincerity as a conservative.

I’d also add that the point that Newt hammered home in the teleconference again and again is a good one: It’s not enough to come with great policies. You have to build up support for those policies and get the American people on your side. On something as big as the Ryan plan, having the American people behind it before it’s pushed through is an absolute necessity. If you do the same thing Obama did, which is push big reforms without the support of the people, the result will be the same — the single worst election result in more than 50 years.

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  • Anonymous

     To quote a famous man, “He’s dead Jim”.

    • http://www.vega.com Vega – NY’s Smart Sexy Liberal

      Gold.  

    • Trench_Raider

      Nice one.

      TR 

  • http://www.vega.com Vega – NY’s Smart Sexy Liberal

    Sounds like Newt is seriously bullsh*tting.

    my position changed when the President’s position changed. 

    That about sums it up.

  • Trench_Raider

    You know, I like and respect Gingrich.
    He did good work after the ’94 Republican coup and as the driving force behind the Contract With America that forced Clinton to cp-opt many Republican positions to get anything passed in his second term he should be aplauded.  During his time as Speaker of the House he was a solid conservative.  I also respect his work as a historian and author.

    But in recent years he’s gone off the reservation on several key issues.  So he does NOT need to be the Republican candidate in 2012…and after this latest stunt he probably won’t.  I’d still vote for him if it came down to him and Obama…much as I held my nose and voted for McCain.  We can do better than Ginrich. 

    TR

    • http://www.vega.com Vega – NY’s Smart Sexy Liberal

      Gingrich is a near joke who has strong negatives at both sides of the spectrum for good reason. How can someone take so long to announce their Presidency and then crash and burn so quickly?

    • http://www.vega.com Vega – NY’s Smart Sexy Liberal

      Gingrich is a near joke who has strong negatives at both sides of the spectrum for good reason. How can someone take so long to announce their Presidency and then crash and burn so quickly?

    • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

      He’s gone off the rails entirely.  Had he been consistently conservative all these years he’d be a serious contender but he’s repeatedly and deliberately slouched toward stupid policy decisions and positions that directly violate conservatism.

    • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

      He’s gone off the rails entirely.  Had he been consistently conservative all these years he’d be a serious contender but he’s repeatedly and deliberately slouched toward stupid policy decisions and positions that directly violate conservatism.

    • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

      He’s gone off the rails entirely.  Had he been consistently conservative all these years he’d be a serious contender but he’s repeatedly and deliberately slouched toward stupid policy decisions and positions that directly violate conservatism.

  • Martin Hale

    Mr. Gingrich is gifted with the politician’s ability to sound oh so sincere.  He generally knows the right thing to say to whatever constituency is listening.  But then he does stupid stuff.  Like sit on a sofa with Ms. Pelosi and stump for Al Gore.  Like call the Ryan plan ‘extreme’.

    I don’t think he’s evil, just that he’s a typical career politician with a ‘values backbone’ made out of a wet noodle.  Like TR, if it were down to a choice between him and Mr. Obama, well, I’d vote for him, but not without feeling like it was another “none of the above” electoral moment.

  • Anonymous

    Nah. RINO. Newt was personally stung when he imploded in the late 1990s, and everything he’s said and done since reeks of compromise and the desire to get back in the good graces of the Beltway elite. He’s literally operating 20 years in the past, thinking it’s 1991 and the Democrats will come around if we just soften our positions a little.

    We’re fighting for the survival of the country, and Newt is acting like he’s bartering over who gets to be the first guest on Meet the Press this weekend. It’s naive at best, and more likely dangerously out of touch.

  • Anonymous

    Nah. RINO. Newt was personally stung when he imploded in the late 1990s, and everything he’s said and done since reeks of compromise and the desire to get back in the good graces of the Beltway elite. He’s literally operating 20 years in the past, thinking it’s 1991 and the Democrats will come around if we just soften our positions a little.

    We’re fighting for the survival of the country, and Newt is acting like he’s bartering over who gets to be the first guest on Meet the Press this weekend. It’s naive at best, and more likely dangerously out of touch.

  • Anonymous

    Nah. RINO. Newt was personally stung when he imploded in the late 1990s, and everything he’s said and done since reeks of compromise and the desire to get back in the good graces of the Beltway elite. He’s literally operating 20 years in the past, thinking it’s 1991 and the Democrats will come around if we just soften our positions a little.

    We’re fighting for the survival of the country, and Newt is acting like he’s bartering over who gets to be the first guest on Meet the Press this weekend. It’s naive at best, and more likely dangerously out of touch.

  • Anonymous

    Nah. RINO. Newt was personally stung when he imploded in the late 1990s, and everything he’s said and done since reeks of compromise and the desire to get back in the good graces of the Beltway elite. He’s literally operating 20 years in the past, thinking it’s 1991 and the Democrats will come around if we just soften our positions a little.

    We’re fighting for the survival of the country, and Newt is acting like he’s bartering over who gets to be the first guest on Meet the Press this weekend. It’s naive at best, and more likely dangerously out of touch.

  • Anonymous

    Nah. RINO. Newt was personally stung when he imploded in the late 1990s, and everything he’s said and done since reeks of compromise and the desire to get back in the good graces of the Beltway elite. He’s literally operating 20 years in the past, thinking it’s 1991 and the Democrats will come around if we just soften our positions a little.

    We’re fighting for the survival of the country, and Newt is acting like he’s bartering over who gets to be the first guest on Meet the Press this weekend. It’s naive at best, and more likely dangerously out of touch.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IER5MKRYJ7BBGWQMYS7AMWOJTM Ken

         I know Gingrich all too well.  I know that in 1994, SecDef William Perry, and his boss, Bill Clinton, broke a long standing promise to America’s military retirees, that went back to the Roosevelt administration – Teddy, not FDR – of free medical and dental care at military medical and dental facilities, for the remainder of their lives, for themselves and their eligible dependents.

         In 1995, Gingrich, and his senate counterpart, Trent Lott, could have stood up for the military retirees, but instead,  
    folded to Perry and Clinton like a pair of cheap lawn chairs, and gave us a joke called Tricare.

         I guess they didn’t think dental care was all that important. as it took them another two years to get around to addressing that issue.  And if Tricare was a joke, the Tricare Military Retiree Dental Program, administered by Delta Dental of California, is an abomination.

    Simply put, in 1995, Gingrich abandoned and betrayed America’s military retirees, and for that, this SOB should not be elected dogcatcher.

    The only good thing he has going for him, is that he is not Obama.

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