But, Troglo, you have such a way with words. I love it!

It’s not the same thing. Its worse.

Jotting down a few notes on your hand is worse than being congenitally incapable of speaking in public without a teleprompter?

What color is the sky on your planet?

When I give an hour long presentation at work, I sometimes scribble about 8 or 10 words down on scrap paper or a note card, just to remind me of the main points I want to hit.

I guess Palin does the same thing.

*YAWN*

Is there a point to any of this?

Jotting down a few notes on your hand is worse than being congenitally incapable of speaking in public without a teleprompter?

No, but we’re not talking about anyone who is congentitally incapable of speaking without a tp. Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses and whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates. And he recently smacked Reps around in their own venue to a point that you guys were virtually silent on it.

The tp-hard-on you guys have is a wholly conjured myth.

Obama uses a TelePrompter because he cares about what he says.

The tp-hard-on you guys have is a wholly conjured myth.
Posted by D-Vega
2010-02-07 21:07:17

Yeah kinda like Bush’s oration was a sign of stupidity?!?! NOT!

… I’m starting to think that everyone who likes President Obama has some sort of mental block that makes them act like a complete moron when the topic comes up. Seriously, like they drop 50 points of IQ any time his name is mentioned.

And he recently smacked Reps around in their own venue to a point that you guys were virtually silent on it.

You missed the many discussions about how Obama would now pass all of his legislation after “smacking” the GOP around. Nixon is sure those bills will be signed into law this coming week. oh wait….

“Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses and whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates.”

Do your own research, Nixon. I am including all of the Dem primary debates. Think about it.

Posted by D-Vega
2010-02-07 22:24:33

You are a fucking liar vega. Thanks for playing.

Do your own research, Nixon. I am including all of the Dem primary debates. Think about it.
Posted by D-Vega
2010-02-07 22:24:33

Yuo brought it supply the proof! Otherwise you’ve lost the argument before it began, but then you did that with this one anyway.

Get over yourself, Nixon.

That’s Hillary + McCain = more than two dozen debates.

A simple wiki search will give you exact dates and numbers. Do you really want me to post it? I will then have to be a little rude about it.

The fact is extemporaneous speechmaking based on a few notes is the hardest kind, requiring not just talent but real skill. Making a speech that has been typed up by someone else and projected for you on a screen doesn’t take any real skill or talent, although giving it a fresh delivery can be impressive – until people get tired of your mannerisms and carefully practiced techniques.

But I maybe you’d have to be someone who does this kind of thing to know. I should think it was obvious but maybe not.

Or maybe my negative IQ hit thing is on target. I mean its either that or the left has become so idiotically and reflexively opposed to Palin and in support of Obama they don’t even think about it any longer. Like dogs drooling when a bell rings. They were like that about Bush and Iraq too, come to think of it. Careful, mindless conditioning. That seems to say something about your personality and mental capacity, to mee.

Don’t try to disguise your kneejerk reaction by selectively editing my quotes, Nixon.

“Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses and whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates.”

Spin it Vega. Go ahead, Nixon has popcorn prepared.

He uses a telepromter. She actually believed that she was taking a phone call from the President of France. All facts on which mockers thrive but which don’t amount to a hill of beans to adults who truly wish to resolve real problems.

“Drive out the mocker, and out goes strife; quarrels and insults are ended.” Proverbs 22:10

I said Hillary and McCain, Nixon, because Hillary and McCain is the truth.

The point is you can’t ridiculously complain about the POTUS’s use of a teleprompter and then claim it’s different somehow, or much worse, than when your darling uses handwritten notes on her hand.

One person is the leader of the free world, who has time and time again been both off and on prepared statements leading up the campaign and while being President…

the other is a person with political aspirations who has time and time again been caught in headlights when taken off script.

“Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses and whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates.”

24 debates over McCain. Hell of a record there Vega.

The point is you can’t ridiculously complain about the POTUS’s use of a teleprompter and then claim it’s different somehow, or much worse, than when your darling uses handwritten notes on her hand.

Do you use a teleprompter too when you talk to six-graders, Vega? Your false prophet does.

ROFLMAO!

“Drive out the mocker, and out goes strife; quarrels and insults are ended.” Proverbs 22:10
Posted by Power_System_Oper
2010-02-07 23:04:15

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

Matthew 23:25-26

Vega really hates it when his owns words above proved Nixon correct.

He has a tendency to do that very often, doesn’t he?

No balls Vega, not man enough to admit he was wrong, along with the 52% of the voting public.

The vast majority of men don’t want to be castrated. Vega, on the other hand, seems to have enjoyed it. Like Gore, Vega must enjoy his feminine side.

Remember, Vega was wrong about Obama (see his poll numbers) and Vega was wrong about Palin.

Ooooh, she wrote six words on her hand. Oh, she can’t lead the country because she writes on her hand! I could imagine a commercial from the libs on that. That would be the DUMBEST….COMMERCIAL….EVER!

This has got to be the DUMBEST comments from the left to date. She can’t lead because she scribbled SIX FUCKING WORDS on her hand? Vega has some serious psychological problems. Seriously, he does. If Obama scribbled notes on a card (or even his hand) I wouldn’t care about that…I’ve seen that with other speakers. Some of the best speakers I know have last-minute notes to add. Seriously, my prayers go out to Vega’s wife. For a woman to put up with a poor excuse for a man who hates strong women because he fears them must be embarrassing. As much as I detest the leaders of the National Organization for Women, I don’t need to find and nitpick on every little fucking issue. I can oppose them based on issues not the way that they jot down last minute notes.

I wonder when Vega will bitch that Palin isn’t qualified because she doesn’t carry the right type of purse or wear the right type of shoes.

I’m happy that Vega is this angry because Vega is the poster child for the left: angry, foolish and stupid. Why try to hang a man when he’s willing to hang himself with his own stupid words?

To paraphrase Obama, Vega’s acting stupidly. But, that wouldn’t be the first time.

If that’s what you and Kingfisher are reduced to, Nixon, then more power to you.

We’re not the ones bitching about someone who wrote six words on her hand. Who’s the crybaby now, Vega?

Pretty pathetic and underwhelming, like a recent speech I heard.

Yeah, the SOTU was pretty pathetic. Thanks for agreeing with us.

“Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses and whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates.”

One more thing about that quote, Vega…it’s a lie. Obama DIDN’T trounce Hillary. I looked it up and confirmed it. Next time, get help…don’t call Rahm for assistance.

You guys are doing a LOT of compensating for something that wasn’t supposed to be that bg of a deal. Your slip is slowing.

You guys are doing a LOT of compensating for something that wasn’t supposed to be that bg of a deal. Your slip is slowing.

Posted by D-Vega
2010-02-08 00:28:50

you were proven to be either a. a gutless wonder, or b. a liar.

Of course, as a liberal Democrat, you are both, but, sucks for you.

a few words written on her hand is no big deal. The big deal is her double standard with the word “retard”, unreal but typical of conservatives.

There is a Department of Mental Retardation in Connecticut, whatsup. The word itself isn’t the problem, it’s how it’s used: delibaretly insulting people by saying “effing retards!” doesn’t exactly qualify as respectful, in my book.

On the other hand, in the context of Obama’s much touted “Beer Summit” and the brilliant performance of this White House, Rush saying Obama will now hold a Retard Summit is pretty hilarious.

The right foolishly complains about a teleprompter only because they need something to counter Obamas gift for speech.

I just opened up this topic and was struck by the hilarity of Vega’s opener on this thread. Without reading the rest of the comments first — although I’m sure others have pointed this out already — I just have to wonder what kind of wonderful “gift for speech” the Obamateur has if he needs a teleprompter to talk to a classromm full of sixth graders? Can he return it for something else?

Nixon misreads Vegas quote and then blames vega. Amazing. Vega was obviously talking cumulative debates against Hillary and McCain. Nixon should be impeached. Again.
Posted by Jack Schite
2010-02-08 09:46:24

“Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses and whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates.”

Jack=epic fail.

Pretty pathetic and underwhelming, like a recent speech I heard.

Yeah, President Obama hasn’t been very good lately even in his speeches, but the campaign season is coming soon and he’s good at that, even if he can’t govern, lead, or think critically.

Nixon misreads Vegas quote and then blames vega. Amazing. Vega was obviously talking cumulative debates against Hillary and McCain. Nixon should be impeached. Again.
Posted by Jack Schite
2010-02-08 09:46:24

VEGA MISQUOTED HIMSELF, MORON! THAT’S WHAT’S AMAZING that and you and you trying to defend his stupidity. It’s like What’s_up saying LIBERALS(with no qualifiers) and then trying to claim he only meant SOME. It was a badly worded sentence that stated that McCain had debated Obama 24 times. Learn to fucking read, Jack Auff.

How could I misquote myself?
Posted by D-Vega 2010-02-08 14:05:47

“Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses and whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates.

Posted by D-Vega 2010-02-07 21:07:17”
So McCain and Obama had at least 25 debates?

I would really like to see proof of that, Vega.

Vega: whatever you meant to say, you didn’t say it very clearly and certainly misunderstanding is not unreasonable in this case.

Of course you might have meant exactly what they believe and you’re just being defensive now too. And guys, maybe he just typed poorly and this is a pointless exercise.

In any case watching the left act like a speaker make an entire speech on the basis of a few notes she wanted to remember to hit on is some demonstration of incompetence is truly hilarious, given their mindless, Pavlovian defense of Obama’s goofy use of teleprompters for every speech and press conference. Not to mention his near complete breakdown and inability to speak when the teleprompter goes haywire.

I mean come on, he read someone else’s line about himself, praising himself just because it was on the screen without thinking about it and with the same carefully practiced delivery. The guy is a parody of a politician.

Do you really think anyone is afraid of that? Seriously.

If she were really as irrelevant, powerless and incapable of winning a Presidential race as you keep telling us she is… you wouldn’t constantly keep telling us she is.

Don’t tell me you need the same grammar lesson that Nixon does.

Obama trounced Hillary in the primaries, caucauses AND whupped McCain in more than than two dozen debates
Posted by D-Vega 2010-02-08 14:28:44

My grammer is fine, Vega. Yours could use some help.

So you can’t prove Obama and McCain had more than two dozen debates. So you admit you were lying.

Thanks!

When the right decides to grow up regarding the use of TPs, then maybe the left will stop making fun of Palin’s cheat sheet.
Posted by D-Vega 2010-02-08 14:47:19

And in the other thread, you lyingly claimed it is the Right making a big deal out of this. I guess it is hard to keep your bullshit together, especially when your entire debate style is nothing but pissing and moaning.

But I have never, ever known one who had to have each and every single word of a speech laid out in front of him.

Then you have never, ever known any major politician, public figure or CEO of a company. You’re being silly now.

I have spoken to crowds numbering in the low thousands, actually.

And if you need to write six words on your hand in order to remember them, you are a rank amateur.

And if you need to write six words on your hand in order to remember them, you are a rank amateur.
Posted by D-Vega 2010-02-08 15:05:09

That is pure bullshit and (if you are not lying about giving speeched) you know that.

Public Speaking 101 says that you familiarize yourself with what you want to say. It is almost always permitted to have a reminder card with you that has the high points of your speech and the order to intend to cover them. Palin skipped the card and used her hand.

The sign of a rank amature is to have your entire speech flashed before you so that you can read it word for word. And Obama has even screwed this up.

You are pathetic!

So all of those professional musicians who have a set list and maybe a few chords or chord progressions taped to the side or back of their guitar are “rank amateurs”? Think carefully, because I’ve seen some mighty big names in the entertainment business on stage with just such a “memory device”.

No, Martin.

Would you call all of the performers on teevee who use a teleprompter and/or cue cards (including all the network news anchors, Oprah, David Letterman, Jay Leno, etc.) “rank amateurs”?

No.

I realise that you’ve made this exaggeration just to make a point, and while that’s a common enough occurrence, especially in a user forum on the web, it certainly doesn’t help move any discussion forward.

It’s not my fault, Martin. The right, including those here, started this nonsense with their obsession of Obama’s use of the TP. It sucks when it comes back around.

I don’t think it’s a big deal, no. But it is funny, because now the joke is on you.

The right, including those here, started this nonsense with their obsession of Obama’s use of the TP. It sucks when it comes back around.

Posted by D-Vega 2010-02-08 16:22:06

So you feel free to lie about Sarah Palin because the Right makes fun of Obama and his love affair with his teleprompter? Well, if you want to go down THAT road, the only reason we made fun of his Teleprompter fetish is because the Left made fun of the way George Bush spoke.

Is that sufficiently at your level of childishness and pettiness, Vega. Or do I need to throw in an “Oh, Yeah?” to reach your depth?

She did indeed write six words on her hand so she wouldn’t forget them. Unless you can prove that false, then no one is being dishonest here.
Posted by D-Vega 2010-02-08 17:23:02

It’s bullshit and a lie Vega, and you know it is.

She did like most every public speaker does, she wrote down reminders for her speech. She was not trying to remember six words. You may want to believe that out of a ten-minute speech, she needed help to remember those six specific words, but that just proves how utterly stupid you are and how much you are scared of Palin.

You are a fucking liar. You know it, I know it, and everyone reading this thread knows it.

It’s not my fault, Martin

Wow – it’s the old Flip Wilson “The Devil made me do it” defence. Haven’t seen that one in a good long while. Hope it’s a good long while until I see it again. I’m confident that it’ll be as unconvincing and unsatisfying an answer then as it is ever has been.