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JournoList 2: the TownHouse Listserv?
Written By : SusanAnne Hiller

From my original post at Big Journalism
It was a great week watching the left squirm with the Daily Caller’s release of the JournoList private emails.  I bet a lot of you lefties had a tough time sleeping due to stress and trying to remember just what you wrote in the emails, eh?

But let’s forget about the JournoList for a moment and turn our eyes to another listserv out there in Google.  I’m referring to Matt Stoller’s private, invitation-only TownHouse listserv.  For those of you who are unfamiliar with Stoller, he’s a progressive blogger-turned-senior policy advisor for Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL).  Now we all know what we can do besides teach with a history degree, but I digress.

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According to SourceWatch:

Townhouse provides the online equivalent of a political backroom for Democratic Party-aligned advocates, consultants and lobbyists. On this closed listserv selected liberals — including bloggers Glenn Greenwald, Markos Moulitsas and Atrios; film maker Robert Greenwald; leaders of liberal think tanks such as Robert Borosage of Campaign for America’s Future; Wes Boyd, Tom Matzzie and other leaders of MoveOn; and other Democratic campaign and PR consultants — can confidentially discuss and debate their issues, strategies and tactics.

An article on Salon reports: “Townhouse began after the disastrous 2004 election, when young Democratic activists began meeting on Sundays for beers at Townhouse Tavern, a subterranean watering hole in Washington’s Dupont Circle neighborhood…

 

Through it all, Stoller controlled the membership. If you stayed in his graces, and met the group’s qualifications, you got yourself a ticket to both the electronic and the alcoholic conversations. At all times, the whole enterprise was declared off the record, to be spoken of in hushed tones only with others who knew the proverbial secret handshake. … the public introduction of Townhouse now presents the big-name bloggers and online activists with a transparency dilemma. On the one hand, bloggers like to talk of themselves as a democratic, grass-roots movement. (Moulitsas often conflates himself with the entire ‘people-powered movement’ in his blog posts.) On the other hand, the blogosphere boasts an emerging leadership elite, which is increasingly profiting on its insider status in both the Democratic Party and among one another.”

The TownHouse listserv comes up in conversation every so often, but is largely ignored.  Politico has mentioned TownHouse in the past, but in casual, nonchalant terms.  But then there’s this nugget from the health care debate:

Indeed, his senior policy adviser Matt Stoller (one of the most prominent liberal bloggers) sent out an e-mail with video of Grayson’s floor speech to the progressive Townhouse listserv, according to a Democratic operative who received the e-mail.

In the e-mail, Stoller argues that Grayson was setting an example for how Democrats should be messaging the health care debate.

What this tells us that the   list   is  still active in late 2009 and is still shaping the media’s reporting.  Stoller, who is paid with public dollars and works for Grayson, is contacting the private TownHouse group to help the left spin stories and stay on message–a listserv he created and approved all the membership.

With the embarrassing emails from the JournoList, I’d really love to see the TownHouse emails, wouldn’t you?  Especially the ones about Sarah Palin.  I bet they’re even better than the JournoList emails.

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  • Christopher_Taylor

    While I have no doubt (and said at the time) that the Journolist was only closed after they'd set up a replacement somewhere else, I doubt we'll find it any time soon or see any of its archives.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/C3IKAXMRVZNEU5BZKUD7LK6WBA Pete Moss

    This from crooksandliars.com nails it:

    We've all seen the type. The standoffish, petulant misfit who doesn't really have any friends but wants to be in the center of everyone's group. When they don't get what they want they start playing gossip games and trying to turn one against the other.

    Tucker Carlson is one of those. Eclipsed back in the day by Anderson Cooper on CNN, he moved on to MSNBC, where he didn't quite fit, and from there to Fox where he is comfortably nondescript and not particularly useful.

    But Tucker is resourceful, cunning, cruel, and petty like most conservatives, so the idea of weaseling his way onto a private listserv where members thought they were speaking on a private email list in order to then publish those private emails selectively…well, that was too delicious for Tucker to resist. I'd call him the Hedda Hopper of the Internet age but that gives him too much stature.

    Long story short: Tucker weasels his way onto a private listserv of journalists owned by Ezra Klein which, to everyone's shock and awe, has…liberal journalists on it. Oh, the horror, the awful, awful horror.

    And then, I read his intellectually dishonest, lizard-scaly, creepy self-justification and just had to say it: This Daily Caller has no balls.

    Tucker rushes to his own defense with this:

    To be clear: We’re not contesting the right of anyone, journalist or not, to have political opinions. (I, for one, have made a pretty good living expressing mine.) What we object to is partisanship, which is by its nature dishonest, a species of intellectual corruption.

    Errrrr…what part of being a senior fellow at Cato Institute isn't partisan, Tucker? Just sayin'. And no, it's not a species of intellectual corruption. Human beings are, by their nature, social and tend to gather in affinity groups where they share similar goals, outlooks, hopes and dreams. Partisanship is but one way of expressing that.

    Again and again, we discovered members of Journolist working to coordinate talking points on behalf of Democratic politicians, principally Barack Obama. That is not journalism, and those who engage in it are not journalists. They should stop pretending to be. The news organizations they work for should stop pretending, too.

    Why TUCKER, I'm so glad you looked in the mirror! You might have even seen your reflection if it weren't daylight and you weren't a slimy little vampire sucking notoriety off of ginned up blown out of proportion pronouncements. But hey, let's just see whether you actually measure up to your own standard.

    * This interview with Ron Paul where you admitted you voted for him and “slobbered all over him”? You're right. It's partisan pretending, and shouldn't be considered journalism. (Pssss, Tucker. Ron Paul is a Republican. Partisan. Party. Republican.)
    * How about admitting that liberals like Barney Frank “fill you with hatred”? Partisan. Not journalism.
    * On supporting the Iraq War before the flip-flop to not supporting, how about your defense of Karl Rove? Partisan. Not journalism.
    * Or perhaps this slam against Al Gore in 2007 where you said if he were President we'd be living in yurts? Partisan. Not journalism.
    * Bashing Hillary Clinton in 2006? Partisan. Not journalism.

    I could go on, and on, and on. But you get the idea. And while we're on the topic of the corruption of journalism, perhaps it's worth pointing out that Tucker Carlson's petty two-bit “who can pee farther” contest with MSNBC's Keith Olbermann smacks of desperate penis ratings envy?

    But this– this might just frame Tucker Carlson's hypocrisy perfectly. From a Salon interview when he was pimping his book:

    …even though we claim to withhold judgment until we know all the facts, but we don't, all the times. And our prisons are nAoot packed with innocent men, but there are some. And I think we all, especially those of us in the press, ought to remember that.

    Unless, that is, your name is Tucker Carlson and you're a slimy weasel named Tucker Carlson who slithered onto a private email list and made a lot of weaselly Tucker Carlson promises about not flaming and then cherry-picked the email list to paint liberal journalists as incompetent partisans because your name is Tucker Carlson and you're a pathetic loser who couldn't figure out a REAL STORY. If that's who you are, then you're just pathetic.

    Not innocent. Not a journalist. Not immune. Just pathetic.

    Update: Oh, Jon Perr and BlueGal just sent me more reminders of how “non-partisan” Tuckie is. Among the invited guests to the Daily Caller's launch? None other than Scooter Libby. Scooter is Tuckie's special friend after he talked him up all over cable news during his trial while Tuckie's daddy was promoting and managing Scooter's Legal Defense Fund.

    Yeah, nothing says nonpartisan quite like the whiff of Daddy's BigBuckBuddies in the Republican Party. Good going, Tuckie.

  • Christopher_Taylor

    Sad stuff but what can you expect from that site?

    And copying entire articles is still theft, copyright violation, and unethical.

  • RegConserative

    From a Salon : Glad you said so. I though it was the DNC.
    Tucker Carlson Is much less pathetic than you are !!

  • Dawnsblood

    I always thought they were the best named website on the left. After all it is about thieves (progressives) telling lies…

  • UFKA_Smithwick

    So do you have original thoughts or are you capable of just copy-and-pasting others writings?

    I like how you refute the story by going on the attack. The best that can accomplish is to show your opponent is likewise a scumbag, it doesn't mean you aren't one.

    “Yes your honor, I'm a murder, but so is that guy! I rest my case”.

  • Vegeta1

    Yeah well when you're a freaking moron like ole petey here what can you do? he's not really firing on all eight cylinders.

  • Christopher_Taylor

    Its just the left is being so childish about this. Daily Caller posts discussions of actual leftist journalists being completely out of line, unethical, unprofessional, and radical…and asinine twits like him think the guy who posted this stuff is the bad guy. Its like a kid who you catch stealing cookies, you're the jerk for catching him. Completely immature and pathetic.

  • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

    Do you have any original thoughts, Petey?

  • TheDickNixon

    Is your real name Philip? Moonbattery's arch troll Wyzaard aka Philip the Grad student loves Crooks and liars. Coincidence?

  • http://www.commieblaster.com/ CommieBlaster

    MUCH, MUCH MORE ON COMMIE MEDIA HERE:

    http://www.commieblaster.com/misinformation/med…

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com Martin Hale

    So apparently Petey's been stung enough by the observations that he provides nothing other than noise to the discussion that he now feels the need to “borrow” content from other sources and post it here with no analysis, interpretation or addition. Unfortunately for Petey, all that does is highlight how intellectually bankrupt an individual he is.

    Maybe his next screen name should be XeroxMan or Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V. No worries on the trademarked name – Petey's never shown any moral compunctions about publishing other people's copyrighted IP without permission, so why would he worry about using a trademark without permission?

  • UFKA_Smithwick

    I think he could be replaced by a fairly simple program that simply takes key words from the OP and does a Google search through a list of solidly leftwing blogs and returns the links in the comment section.

    I shall call it Mega-Troll! Faster than any mere human troll and with twice the intellect.

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