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Nice Counting There, New York Times!

Written By : Jimmie Bise

It doesn’t speak well of the New York Times’ layers upon layers of fact-checkers and editors that this paragraph made it to publication.

The demonstrators numbered well into the tens of thousands, though the police declined to estimate the size of the crowd. Many came on their own and were not part of an organization or group. But the magnitude of the rally took the authorities by surprise, with throngs of people streaming from the White House to Capitol Hill for more than three hours.

Of course, if you wanted to downplay the magnitude of the tea party protest in DC yesterday, it works just fine. But as an accurate portrayal of a news event, it stinks on toast.

Any good editor, playing this story straight, would have asked the reporter why the authorities were taken by surprise by the size of the crowd if there were only “tens of thousands” of people (which implies less than a hundred thousand). Likewise, that objective professional editor should have asked why it took such a small crowd three hours to get from the White House to the Capitol.

According to Google Maps, it’s a bit over a mile and a half from Lafayette Square, by the White House, to the US Capitol — a trip that should take about 30 minutes? So what the heck was happening that it took so few people six times as long to get from one to the other? Were they crawling? Dragging heavy weights behind them? Pausing for the occasional line dance?

Here, by the way, is a time lapse video of the crowd. Sure, you could call it “tens of thousands”, but only if you’re trying to deceive your readers into thinking the momentous gathering yesterday was just a moderate crowd of cranks.

It’s probably a good thing that reporter doesn’t work the science beat. We’d end up reading about the “dozens and dozens” of galaxies in the universe.

Jimmie runs The Sundries Shack, is a contributing writer to the American Issues Project, and has his own podcast called “The Delivery”. He is also an amateur musician, an aspiring composer, an unrepentant geek and would love you to pay his blog a visit. Oh, this post is cross-posted there, too.

saladproblems

What? The crowd was estimated at about 70,000 by authorities. I agree "tens of thousands" makes it sound closer to 30,000 or 40,000 than 70,000, but if the only problem is that it "implies less than a hundred thousand" then that in itself isn't an issue.
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The crowd was estimated at about 70,000

…plus 1.130.000 to 1.930.000, countingproblems.

Keep telling yourselves that this was any smaller than Obama's inauguration, liberals, and that there hasn't been a massive show of buyer's remorse on 9/12.

Just don't come whining about "stolen elections" again when a massive defeat blindsides you from straight ahead.
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And for anyone who wasn't sure who Charles is rooting for, try looking up LGF's coverage. If you dare. Even the NYT might have pause before portraying this tide-turning event as a meager convention of a few hundred paulites, birthers and obamhitler nuts.
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Posted by snohomish

2009-09-13 18:11:08

Nixon will keep following you. Have you ever, yes or no, posted under any other user names on RightWingNews?

Simple question, one you seem reluctant to go on the record about.
http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

Vet your sources folks…vet your sources.

Posted by snohomish

2009-09-13 18:11:08

Van Jones. Hogground. Van Jones.

THanks for playing.
http://www.superdickery.com mightysamurai

Shut up, hoggo. Nobody cares what you think.
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Posted by snohomish

2009-09-13 18:43:23

Nixon would rather talk about your use of cliche's, made up facts, and multiple user names. And your family, if you want Nixon to go there.
http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

Mark Duvall Assemblyman from California,

Now how is this person relevant to the attendance of the protests yesterday? Not at all.

Thanks for playing, hogground.
http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

In a rarely observed public rebuke of its own top leader by a political interest group's spokesman, Freedom Works Spokesman Brendan said he did not know why Kibbe cited ABC News as a source.

Posted by snohomish

2009-09-13 19:45:01

Again, why is this relevant? You voted for Obama, you support Obama, and you will vote for him again. We understand this.

Can you tell me how many user names you have used in the past?
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

DC Police said 1.2 million, ABC news said 2 million. But then, if you count that many then it doesn't make sense for the NYT to have paid it so little attention.
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Vet your sources first.

Five minutes after Van Jones. Three seconds after being reminded of Van Jones.

Liberals' unwillingness to go from talking points to reality usually looks more like pathetic wishful thinking than the courage they delude themselves it is. After at least as many told Obama to go home as have welcomed him, and in just 9 months, people like repeatedly banned sockpuppet cretinous just sound like they're completely and definitely dissembling.
http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/09/13/nice-counting-there-new-york-times/ Nice Counting There, New York Times!

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http://TheNixonTape.Com Dick_Nixon

Vet your sources first. It will save you some grief in ghe future.

Posted by snohomish

2009-09-13 20:57:43

HOgground, the supposed expert on Washington State politics. Brutally slapped down by jasmac on this very blog. Still haven't seen any proof of your statements. How many user names does this make for you, 8 now?
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/09/12/HP/A…

There is no way this was 70,000 protestors. Has to be quite a bit more, the pan of the crowds at the beginning clip shows way too many to be 70K hoggo, PERIOD. But we all know you have nothing better as better as proof, so why don't you crawl back into your hole.
TrooperJohnSmith

Two things:

If 500 people showed up to protest George W. Bush's bald-faced assertion that the sun rose in the east, CNN would have reported it as "overwhelming numbers", the NY Times as "legions of the disaffected and angry" and Pravda as "500 hundred Amerikkan peoples approximately".

Or, they just may have used the same math that the House Ways and Means Committee uses, where they just round down to the nearest hundred-billion.
CoolCzech

Yes, the National Mall crowded from the Capitol all the way to the Washington Monument sure sounds like "70,000," LOL!

I guess this makes Liberals out to be Protest Deniers, huh?
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

Well the media always overestimates the leftist protests and undercounts (if they even bother covering) any protest that doesn't fit the narrative. It's pretty standard propaganda efforts. You'd expect an organizer to overstate numbers, but the press is supposed to be about accuracy, not advocacy.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

2009-09-14 00:12:30

Hmm, a comment, let's check the source:

Posted by snohomish

Don't even bother reading it. It's a waste of time including the "the's," "but's" and "an's."
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Well the media always overestimates the leftist protests and undercounts (if they even bother covering) any protest that doesn't fit the narrative.

Posted by Christopher_Taylor

2009-09-14 10:20:51

Chris to their credit, would you want to count the number of hippies with the stench of foul body odor in the air?
D-Vega

Looks like more than 70K to me.

I've been to similiar types of things, and it's definitely at least 250K+.
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