So, if all else fails, spend $1 trillion more and expect results.

(/sarc)

gotta print the $1 trillion more first … then you just sit back and watch inflation happen

unemployment is one of the last things to be effected by a turnaround in the economy, just like it is one of the last things to be effected by the recession. On a positive note, 23 states saw no jump or lower unemployment.

that should have read "unemployment rates"

Thankyou President Obama and Congressional Democrats for not folding on the Stimulous Package when the chicken little conservativews were screaming that the sky would fall if the Stimulous Package became law.

Posted by snohomish

You endorsed McCain for POTUS.

Thank Obamatuer for that tripling of the deficit in 8 months.

Most economists in the know are predicting a record run up in inflation next year, coupled with continued job losses. Plus another 200 to 600 billion dollars to the deficit next year.

A record number of people are no longer eligible for unemployment. The actual number according to a Fed Governor is 16%. Of course to liberals, it's "funemployment".

Coupled with the daily decrease in support for Chappaquiddick Care, We are looking at a one term POTUS with the worst economy in 40 years in 2012.

Thanks liberal. My grandkids thank you for the extra two trillion to the national debt, plus the destruction of the country since 1-20-07. Thanks, you racist lying POS's.

And yet…

The president’s chief economic adviser warned Friday that the nation’s unemployment rate could stay “unacceptably high” for years to come — a situation that would seriously complicate Barack Obama’s ability to convince Americans that he’s beating back the recession.

“The level of unemployment is unacceptably high,” National Economic Council Director Larry Summers said Friday. “And will, by all forecasts, remain unacceptably high for a number of years.”

That was from the Politico and was published last Saturday.

Whether employment lags recovery or not, this administration's chief economic adviser is telling us to gird our loins for a long-haul spate of high unemployment. In other words, a jobless recovery, which like it or not, will be remembered by the millions who suffered through it as the government not taking any effective actions. In fact it might even really make things very dicey for this administration if businesses recover and the people remaining working are making good money, but there's this mass of unemployed who feel alienated and disenfranchised. Out of work and pissed off is never a good combination for politicians who're perceived as having done little to help rectify the situation.

Shut up, hoggo. Nobody cares what you think.

A new unemployment benefit extension bill is already in the legislative pipeline and will become law soon. The recovery for the jobless may last longer this time around, but so will those life preserving unemployment benefit extensions as long as President Obama is in the White House and the Democrats control Congress.

Posted by snohomish

2009-09-18 17:50:55

To pay for all those extended unemployment benefits, the Dems will raise taxes on the wealthy and businesses. The wealthy and businesses will then fire people, due to less available money. At which point unemployment will go up, needing even more money, at which point Dems will raise taxes…

…wash, rinse, repeat.

Posted by jasamc

2009-09-18 18:57:12

blah, blah, blah, it gets old coming from you conservatives. Even the mighty Ronald Reagan understood that their were times were taxes were going to be raised, after he all signed multiple bills doing just that in 1983 and 1984. He bailed out social security because he understood rightly that govt did have a place in care for the elderly, the sick, the infirm.

Posted by whats_up

2009-09-18 19:04:41

Probably your dumbest post ever.

Posted by whats_up

2009-09-18 19:04:41

You are just mad he didn't ok same sex marriage

Posted by whats_up

2009-09-18 19:04:41

Yeah because he COULDN'T VETO THE DEMS TAX HIKES, since they had a supermajority. But yeah it WAS ALL HIS IDEA. Are you really that ignorant? You failed US history again!!

The Democrats, unlike the Republicans, will never abandoned the unemployed.

Posted by snohomish

2009-09-18 17:50:55

That is because the Democrats know that they need those who are dependant on the government to get them elected. I would like to say, "All the liberals will be proven wrong when the economy does not improve, and conservatives take over the House and the Senate next year," but the unfortunate fact is, that snohomish may be right. Those of us on the right never understood that unemployment is good for political reasons. Democrats know unemployment is good, at least for their chance at a reelection. FDR won reelection more times than anyone, because he knew that getting America out of an economic mess was not in his political interest. "Helping" those in an economic mess was in his political interest. Without an economic mess, he had nothing. Obama learned the lesson well.

blah, blah, blah, it gets old coming from you conservatives.

Yeah, that interjecting economics into a conversation about the economy…what was jasamc thinking?

And if Russia were to attack Poland, NATO would have to respond.

Hmmm…I seem to recall Britain and France had an alliance with Czechoslovakia in the the 1930s. Those sorts of assurances turned out brilliantly for the Czechs, didn't they?

blah, blah, blah, it gets old coming from you conservatives.

OK, I'll play. Here's the corresponding line about liberals:

blah, blah, blah, it gets old coming from you liberals.

Maybe we all should just stop posting debate and start posting that one line. In fact maybe John should have his comment rendering engine re-written so that it converts whatever anyone types into one of those two sentences.

Sheesh.

unemployment is one of the last things to be effected by a turnaround in the economy, just like it is one of the last things to be effected by the recession. On a positive note, 23 states saw no jump or lower unemployment.

2009-09-18 16:50:04

Let's see if I understand this correctly. The American people are the foundation of the economy in terms of working, saving money and spending money. However, the economy can recover without Americans working and saving money which means that the government would have to control the economy.

That must mean that Obama is intentionally allowing this recession to occur.

That about it? Please continue, I would love to see how ignorant you really are.

DEMOCRAT JOKE OF THE MONTH

BHOcide

Now we are hearing how the socialist democrats are going to “pay for” the $850 BILLION HC Plan with “savings”…ha, ha, ha.

When has this ever happened before? Oh, you mean by slashing the military and swapping some funds? Yeah, that must be it.

Will the gov-meant cut spending…like on the 78,000 new employees this year the feds hired? Maybe a hiring freeze? Ha, ha, ha.

What the socialist democrats REALLY mean is…the TAX MAN COMETH…in many fees, schedule adjustments and such plus they will let Bush tax cuts expire so your paycheck will be smaller. Its what they do.

No gov-meant areas will be merged, made more efficient or streamlined.

Did I mention America is already broke?

(The socialist democrats already have Americans 9 trillion plus in debt)

Let another socialist weasel word lie-distort scam begin. Its what they do.

Why can’t all voters spend wildly into deep debt to have more prosperity?

J. Carter Obama marches on.

Posted by ohleruno 2009-09-18 23:57:45

The left constantly accuses the right of being for the rich. They claim the right needs the rich to keep power and that is why they fight to keep the rich, rich. Well, the converse is actually a lot closer to reality. The left needs poor and dependant people. That is why every policy on the left pretends to bring relief but only serves to perpetuate and increase the number of dependants. We have been fighting a "War on poverty" for over 6 decades. Countless trillions have been flushed down the hole. And we have more poor and dependant people that when we stated. That’s not a coincidence. It is by design.

Posted by Kingfisher

2009-09-19 09:44:43

Strictly speaking, King, the statement is true. Historically, employment has been a lagging indicator of business conditions and overall economic activity. Nevertheless, whats_up's claim is still silly. Joblessness is the way in which economic downturns actually hit people. And this chart

http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-the-…

suggests, even absent Chairman ObaMao's hikes in employment costs, the jobs picture is going to be prety damn ugly.

Posted by AlexinCT

2009-09-19 11:42:02

Excellent point. Conservatism has traditionally been a middle class outlook. The genuinely rich often favor liberalism, as they have the wherewithal to be the beneficiaries of government largesse and are able to push the cost onto the middle class.

It is really amazing to me to watch the same news sources that kept trying to say a recession was on during the boom years of Bush administration now try to say the recession has ended during an economic collapse.

Unemployment is higher than its been since the worst years of the Carter economy. Gas prices are driving up, the value of the dollar continues to plunge, businesses are closing, and we're told its all getting better.

Its not. Its getting worse, and every day it gets worse proves not just Obama's lies about the stimulus package but the damage the Democrats are doing to the economy by their idiotic spending spree.

Meanwhile, another al`Qaeda trained terrorist was caught in the USA while President Obama considers terrorist attacks "nuisances."

Did you ever stop and ask yourself why there was this accounting surplus under President Clinton?

Do you realize that your complaint that spending was bad under President Bush means that you must that much more strongly and loudly complain about how the spending under President Obama has grown? The Democrats in congress together with President Obama's cheerleading and eager signing of the bills have spent more in six months than President Bush signed his entire 8 years in office.

So do you want to complain about that? Or is your outrage and anger merely focused on Republicans, proving that your problem is the political party, not the act its self?

These are rhetorical questions, by the way. Meant to make you think and self-examine, not respond.

And to think…. We had a surplus with Clinton.

Correction. We had a surplus because of a real conservative congress. Clinton had about as much to do with that as I did.

Then 8 long years under that one guy and poof….. Nothing

Then 9 months under Obama & a demcorat controlled congress, and we already spend as much as those 8 years under that guy. And I should mention that the two worst years under that guy where the last two. Guess who controlled congress then "re-incarntion # whatever of the same stupid troll".

Anyone here think not putting Iraq on the books was a good Idea? Because you know it was only going to cost 40 billion total.

Blaming Iraq where we have spent $680 billion so far for the problem, when Obama and his idiots have dumped a couple of trillions so far down the hole? I love your logic. or should I say lack there off?

Under bush a quagmire called Iraq with billions wasted. Lots and lots of waste.

The last two years of the Bush term demcorats, who owned congress then, "wasted" more money that we have spent on Iraq so far. Nine months of Obama has made that spending look tame. But don't let the facts destroy your idiotic argument troll.

And Health care lets not forget that. Its for everyone even you Christopher.

We have healthcare now. If the democrats get their way we will have nothing of the sort unless you happen to be one of the lucky elite excluded from their disastrous plan. But don't let that fact bite your dumb ass either tool.

So it doesn't matter how much money is spent, it matters where? So if President Bush had put the country in debt largely by expanding the power and scope of the federal government, it would be okay? So if President Obama spends 3 trillion dollars we don't have its fine if they're in the right areas?

OK got it: you don't actually give a damn about spending, you just are using this to complain about policy, you don't care about deficits, debt, the value of the dollar, tax policy, liberty, or the US constitution. Just how leftist the ideas are behind it. Any means to an end, I guess.

With Obama I see the money at work every day. I drive a mountain road that has needed work for many many years. I now see road crews fixing this road with a sign your stimulus money at work. Its one example that im sure that you will ignore.

I see a two trillion dollar deficit, and 90% of said simulus money being held up until election time next year. I see 16% of the workforce in this country unemployed after two and a half years of a Democraticly controlled Congress. I see ACORN, which Obama admires, trafficking in child sex slaves. I see George Soros profitting from his minion in the White House. I see GE making money from the throwing under the bus of two of our allies. I see GE owned media daily issuing Obama White House talking points.

The only thing stimulated by Obama is the prostate of America from bing boned annally by his incompetent Administration.

Under bush a quagmire called Iraq with billions wasted. Lots and lots of waste.

With Obama I see the money at work every day. I drive a mountain road that has needed work for many many years. I now see road crews fixing this road with a sign your stimulus money at work. Its one example that im sure that you will ignore.

Really? So fairies and unicorns built the tanks and planes? Bullets were manufactured out of thin air? Supplies grow on trees?

The same entities that built and maintain the mountain roads build and maintain the planes, bullets and supplies: human beings. Human beings who work and earn a living. If government money is needed for the stimulus then government money building war machines should be obviously included.

Even the bay bridge is getting fixed up.

OK, a San Francisco nutjob. Never mind, move along.

Bush broke alot of stuff.

Not at all…his spying program is working out very well. (/sarc)

Posted by youlieRepubs2

2009-09-19 20:40:21

Gee, the same troll under another ID while the vast majority of conservatives have been using the same ID for years. Guess who has better faith in their system? Take a wild guess.

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