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When spending more doesn’t help…spend even more?
Written By : TrogloPundit

Education. Important, yes. Expensive, apparently so. But do important plus expensive equal success? Over at OpenMarket.org, Hans Bader says no:

America spends far more on education than countries like Germany, Japan, Australia, Ireland, and Italy, both as a percentage of its economy, and in absolute terms. Yet despite this lavish government support for education, college tuition in the U.S. is skyrocketing, reaching levels of $50,000 or more a year at some colleges, and colleges are effectively rewarded for increasing tuition by mushrooming federal financial-aid spending. Americans can’t read or do math as well as the Japanese, even though America spends way more (half again more) on education than Japan does, as a percentage of income, according to the CIA World Fact Book.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: you can spend all you want on education. Double it. Triple it. Or cut it in half. And the kids who go home to crappy environments will still have a worse chance of getting a good education, and the kids who go home to good environments will still have a better chance.

Put the opportunity out there, and let the families do the rest. Families might not do “the rest,” and that’ll be a shame, but, well, there’s just no helping it. Unless we’re going to warehouse all the children in the same boarding-type schools, some of them will have good family lives, others won’t, and that’s the single biggest determinant of their future adult success…or failure. No matter how much we spend.

Cross-posted at The TrogloPundit.

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  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    Yeah, that’s a pretty important report. Its bad enough to spend more overall, but per capita means we’re just wasting huge dumptrucks full of cash and getting terrible results in many places (some places aren’t bad).

    The reason for it I am pretty damn sure is in these two areas:

    1) Administration costs, the amount of people in the offices has increased immensely in the last 30 years. When I went to high school with 500 kids we had a principal and a vice principal. The new one that opened with twice that many? SIX principals, each at nearly 6 figure incomes. You work it out.

    2) Teacher unions pushing pay and benefits (not to mention retirement pensions) up, days working down, and protecting the lousy teachers.

    That just cannot add up to a good education for a decent price except by accident.

  • kingofsiam

    We need higher standards. If someone can’t graduate high school, so be it.
    A high school diploma should mean something, and right now it’s virtually free.

    • Anonymous

      Likewise we need to re-introduce discipline to schools.

      • Don_cos

        And to homes.

  • Jim

    Yet, the American educational system produces the best health care professionals in the world if one is to believe those who argue that citizens from all those other countries are knocking down our doors to gain access to American Health Care. Can’t have it both ways. Which is it?

    • Anonymous

      Primary education and secondary education in this country are very different.

      Secondary education is not controlled by unions nor is it based around ‘self esteem’ and standardized testing.

    • Anonymous

      Funny, Jim, the one segment of our education system that seems to perform well enough that foreigners value it enough to consume it, college and beyond, is the one area of our education system that employs school choice.

      • http://conservativebootcamp.com Martin Hale

        Not only school choice from a learner’s perspective, but the schools themselves exercise selectivity of students which is virtually unknown in the local public primary and secondary schools domains. And, predictably, the farther one gets away from secondary school, and the greater the social/economic value of the degree they offer, the more selective the school becomes about who they admit and who they reject. It truly is a free market because both suppliers and consumers exercise independent choices.

        Not to mention that the concentration of private schools in the post-secondary education world is significantly higher than at the primary and secondary levels. So our vaunted superiority at producing top physicians simply isn’t just down to public education, unless, of course, you mean that in the sense of the old British ‘boy’s public schools’. Which weren’t (and still aren’t) part of the public educational realm, but were called ‘public’ because: a)they were open to the public, b)some had director positions on the BoD drawn from the public, and c)they fell under the jurisdiction of the Public Schools Acts of 1868 and 1873. These days, they’re increasingly called ‘Independent Schools’.

  • Anonymous

    Yep.

    Spending and education do not seem to have a positive correlation.

    Of course the victims of our union/democrat controlled education system may not understand that previous statement.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve talked to teachers on a couple of occaisions and I’ve heard them describe the model of educational output. The standard model for education is the factory assembly line system. Apparently, some years back there was a movement afoot to adopt a system more akin to “work teams” that focus on team production.
    Am I the only person who sees a problem here? Education isn’t a manufacturing operation and the students are not the operation’s product. Education is, or at least should be, a service business. And the students are, or at least should be, the operation’s customers. This focus, a product of the government monopoly on the provision of education, strikes me as the core of the problem.
    Our educational system is designed to treat students as product to be processed through the system and parents as, at best, an auxiliary support system for those engaged in the production process. Now, in many more affluent districts or districts in tight communities, the parents have the power and influence to take on the role of customers/clients and, not surprisingly, get better results. However, that seems to be more of a function of the system failing to work as intended. In most schools, the educational technicians – the teachers, the administrators, etc. – don’t report to the parents as consumers, but rather to political decision-makers as their customers. As a result, their focus is on meeting the latest set of political priorities and, through a rough equivalent of regulatory capture, seeking out any rents they can secure for themselves.
    It shouldn’t be surprising, then, that we wind up with disengaged parents, schools operating as day care, and students who lag our competitors.

    • http://conservativebootcamp.com Martin Hale

      …the educational technicians – the teachers, the administrators, etc. – don’t report to the parents as consumers, but rather to political decision-makers as their customers.

      One additional point – there is another, parallel “customer” relationship in that mix, namely that with the unions. They’re as much of a “customer” for the public educational apparatus as are the political decision-makers.

      • Anonymous

        Oh, you’re absolutely right about that. I should have noted that the political decision-makers were only the immediate customers. They are inevitably acting as agents of ultimate customers, such as the unions. Sadly, however, any individual parents are only marginal as customers.

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