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ACLU Sues Government Over Use Of Drones In War Zones

Written By : William Teach

ACLU. American Civil Liberties Union. Really? Because it sure appears that they are (still) doing everything possible to not only protect Islamic jihadis, but, to make sure they have the information necessary in order to not be captured and killed by the US government. In my mind, this would be the very definition of “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”

The American Civil Liberties Union sued the federal government Tuesday to learn the use of unmanned drones for targeted killings by the military and CIA.

“In particular, the lawsuit asks for information on when, where and against whom drone strikes can be authorized, the number and rate of civilian casualties and other basic information essential for assessing the wisdom and legality of using armed drones to conduct targeted killings,” the ACLU said in a statement, announcing its action.

Why does it seem that almost every liberal group out there wants to provide information to the enemy? Personally, I think the fact that Obama has increased the use of drone strikes is way of putting a check on the positive box. I do actually hate opposing the president on everything, you know.

“The government’s use of drones to conduct targeted killings raises complicated questions – not only legal questions, but policy and moral questions as well,” said Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU National Security Project. “These kinds of questions ought to be discussed and debated publicly, not resolved secretly behind closed doors. While the Obama administration may legitimately withhold intelligence information as well as sensitive information about military strategy, it should disclose basic information about the scope of the drone program, the legal basis for the program and the civilian casualties that have resulted from the program.”

The scope? To kill Islamists. Legal basis? War zone. Constitution. Civilian casualties? The ACLU has never been concerned about the use of civilians as human shields by Islamists. The US military does everything possible to avoid civilian casualties. Unfortunately, there is that “war zone” issue. And Islamists who use civilians as human shields. Oh, and the fact that this is occurring in other countries, ones which are not American. How about just butting out, ACLU. Go bug some school because they had an evil Santa figurine.

Crossed at Pirate’s Cove

Mike_M

They’re recruiting. The left is home to the radical activists and mad bombers these days (ELF, Bill Ayers, Jihad Jane, etc) and the ACLU would love nothing more than to spread sympathy for Islam and create more homegrown terrorism.

Both the ACLU and radical Islam oppose Western culture, freedoms, and capitalism. Both oppose the power, wealth, and hegemony of the United States. Both despise the US military.

The only difference between Bush and Obama is that the left expects Obama to be a willing participant in the demise of this country. So far he’s following the playbook domestically, but isn’t cooperating on foreign policy where he’s at least shown somewhat of a spine. Now the ACLU is trying to goad him into undermining and selling out the military like they expected him to.
StanInTexas

“The government’s use of drones to conduct targeted killings raises complicated questions – not only legal questions, but policy and moral questions as well,”

Yeah, the ACLU has a history of being troubled by ‘moral’ questions. For instance, when they supported the Democrat idea of interning American citizens in WWII for the crime of being Japanese.

Screw the ACLU!
fiscal_conservative

Stain, it’s a little off topic but I am always looking for new information. When I google ACLU and Japanese internment camps I get contradictory information. Can you site me the sources for your info. These are the first four google links.

Blair (1999). ACLU: Opposition to the Japanese InternmentDescribes the American Civil Liberties Union’s efforts outside of court to oppose the Japanese Internment during World War II.
http://www.aichi-gakuin.ac.jp/~jeffreyb/research/ACLU.one.abref.html – Cached

Blair (2000). ACLU: Fighting the Japanese Internment in CourtDescribes the American Civil Liberties Union’s efforts during World War II to fight the Japanese Internment in court.
http://www.aichi-gakuin.ac.jp/~jeffreyb/research/ACLU.two.abref.html – Cached

More results from http://www.aichi-gakuin.ac.jp »
ACLU Awards Prestigious Medal of Liberty to Japanese Americans Who …The FBI arrested Hirabayashi for defying the curfew put in place for Japanese Americans and for failing to report to a control station for internment. …
http://www.aclu.org/cpredirect/10294 – Cached

ACLU History | American Civil Liberties Union1942 – Fighting the Internment of Japanese Americans The ACLU stood almost alone in denouncing the federal government’s internment of more than 110000 …
http://www.aclu.org/aclu-history – Cached
fiscal_conservative

Stain, can you site your source in reference to your comment. I am always interested in learning the truth. When I google ACLU Japanese internment camps I get this:

Blair (1999). ACLU: Opposition to the Japanese InternmentDescribes the American Civil Liberties Union’s efforts outside of court to oppose the Japanese Internment during World War II.
http://www.aichi-gakuin.ac.jp/~jeffreyb/research/ACLU.one.abref.html – Cached

Blair (2000). ACLU: Fighting the Japanese Internment in CourtDescribes the American Civil Liberties Union’s efforts during World War II to fight the Japanese Internment in court.
http://www.aichi-gakuin.ac.jp/~jeffreyb/research/ACLU.two.abref.html – Cached

ACLU Awards Prestigious Medal of Liberty to Japanese Americans Who …The FBI arrested Hirabayashi for defying the curfew put in place for Japanese Americans and for failing to report to a control station for internment. …
http://www.aclu.org/cpredirect/10294 – Cached

ACLU History | American Civil Liberties Union1942 – Fighting the Internment of Japanese Americans The ACLU stood almost alone in denouncing the federal government’s internment of more than 110000 …
http://www.aclu.org/aclu-history – Cached
StanInTexas

Posted by fiscal_conservative 2010-03-17 09:15:20

Yes, looking at the ACLU’s website is a fine way to find out the truth about the ACLU.

The National ACLU was behind Roosevelt’s Internment. The Koramatsu (sp?) case was brought by the Californai chapter of the ACLU without the backing of the National ACLU.

Only after the fact has the ACLU decided what a mistake the Japanese Internment was and scrubbed their history. But I’m sure you beleive that an organization that would divulge American military secrets and attempt to crush American Freedom of Religion would never lie about thier past.
Jack Schite

Stain is so full of shit, he’s a shit Stain. Where is your EVIDENCE Stain? You’re all talk and no substance. Typical Texan.
StanInTexas

Posted by Jack Schite 2010-03-17 10:06:58

Have you EVER posted evidence of ANYTHING you have ever claimed? Let me look… and the answer is… NO!

Typical Liberal!
Smithwick

Just say you’re using the drones in part of an overall campaign to confiscate their weapons, then the ACLU won’t say a word.
StanInTexas

Just say you’re using the drones in part of an overall campaign to confiscate their weapons, then the ACLU won’t say a word.
Posted by Smithwick 2010-03-17 11:27:10

Wouldn’t work, the ACLU would defend their need to defend themselves against American agression.

The ACLU is only against AMERICANS having weapons. That is the one civil liberaty they like to pretend does not exist.
http://conservativebootcamp.com martinhale

Posted by StanInTexas
2010-03-17 10:09:08

Stan – remember the movie Ghostbusters? One of the catchphrases which came from that movie was “He slimed me.” Let me propose that a similar phrase be created for Jacqui – “He agitpropped me.”

Brother, you’ve been agitpropped.
StanInTexas

Brother, you’ve been agitpropped.
Posted by martinhale 2010-03-17 11:29:57

“I feel so… funky!”

Will a hot shower get it off of me, or do I need the full bio-hazard decontamination procedure?
http://TheNixonTape.Blogspot.Com Dick_Nixon

Posted by Jack Schite
2010-03-17 10:06:58

Dufus warning.
jack

“Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU National Security Project”

So, Jameel Jaffer wants to know where, when, and how we’re gonna be killing Islamic fanatics? I’m sure Barack Hussein Obama won’t have a problem with letting him know.

Allahu Akbar!
D-Vega

While the comments are a little out there, I would have to agree with Mr. Teach’s post.

There is no basis to oppose the use of drones in general.

We don’t want innocent civilians killed, but this is addressing it ass-backwards.
StanInTexas

Posted by D-Vega 2010-03-17 12:38:59

I owe King $1.00.

I did not think you would show your face here today after the ass-kicking you took yesterday.
D-Vega

When was that, Stan?

Let me know what brand you are smoking.

Pineapple Express? Purple Kush?
rmiller

The only difference between Bush and Obama is that the left expects Obama to be a willing participant in the demise of this country.
Posted by Mike_M
2010-03-17 08:09:18

Lord have mercy….so much BS in one post. Your conservative credentials have been noted, validated, stamped and approved.

Care to explain how the left expected Bush to be an unwilling participant in the demise of this country?

Cause it looked to me like he was quite willing.
StanInTexas

Posted by D-Vega 2010-03-17 13:40:21

Oh great Vega. Pleae tell us all again how the armed incursion into Kuwait and the humanitarian mission into Haiti were exactly the same!

Dumbass!
D-Vega

Keep splitting hairs, Stan. The issue was flying the U.S. flag while forming an prime military installation at an airport in a foreign country.

Don’t be mad at me because I destroyed the entire argument. It’s not my fault, it was a weak one to begin with.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Don’t be mad at me because I destroyed the entire argument. It’s not my fault, it was a weak one to begin with.
Posted by D-Vega
2010-03-17 14:03:48

Vega, providing an opinion (and a fucking stupid one at that) is NOT destroying an argument.

I realize you think you’re God but that position has been filled for quite a while.

Maybe when you grow up and act mature, you can join the discussion. In the meanwhile, go to DU to throw your little childish tantrum.
StanInTexas

Keep splitting hairs, Stan. The issue was flying the U.S. flag while forming an prime military installation at an airport in a foreign country.

Don’t be mad at me because I destroyed the entire argument. It’s not my fault, it was a weak one to begin with.
Posted by D-Vega 2010-03-17 14:03:48

The issue was that you said Kuwait and Haiti were exactly the same. I proved to you they were not and you ran away.

It may be a different thread, but D-Vega is still too much of a pussy to admit he lied. No surprise there.
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Awaiting pathetic little immature opinion (disguised as fact) from Vega in 5…4…3…2…

I owe King $1.00.

Pay up Stan…..now. ;-)
StanInTexas

Pay up Stan…..now. ;-)
Posted by Kingfisher 2010-03-17 14:32:14

…you take a check?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

It may be a different thread, but D-Vega is still too much of a pussy to admit he lied. No surprise there.
Posted by StanInTexas
2010-03-17 14:30:50

How can you argue against a fool who is an expert at sticking his fingers in his ears screaming, “La la la, I can’t hear youuuuuuu!”
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

They are demanding information about how many people and who were killed in the drone attacks, as if this is not only critical information the public needs but is something that really matters. What would they have been like during WW2, can you even imagine?
http://Kingfisher Kingfisher

Ten years ago, I would have dismissed this story, but now? Now, I am very concerned that the ACLU might win this case and that would hamper the war effort.
StanInTexas

What would they have been like during WW2, can you even imagine?
Posted by Christopher_Taylor 2010-03-17 14:53:42

Hopefully hanged as the treasonous asses they are.

Unfortunately, this country no longer cares about traitors to the nation; as evidence by Jane Fonda, John Kerry, and Jim McDermott still walking free!
D-Vega

The flag argument was absurd.

Here you guys have a point. And this suit will be laughed out of court.
StanInTexas

Hey Vega… only two more articles posted and the thread with your lies about Haiti will roll over to Page Two. Then you can jump on, get the last word in, and run to your other little bitch friends and tell them how you conquered the mean old Conservatives.

Keep your pantyhose on, it’ll happen soon!
StanInTexas

The flag argument was absurd.

Posted by D-Vega 2010-03-17 15:40:46

The sight of the American Flag may disgust you Vega, but I can assure you that our American Military personnel revere that symbol.

So STFU!
StanInTexas

Oh, and Vega… I’ll be gone for a few days, so I’ll leave it up to others to counter your lies. They are highly capable of slapping you down in my absence. Especially since the average houseplant can see through your lies and out debate you at the same time.
D-Vega

Hey Vega… only two more articles posted and the thread with your lies about Haiti will roll over to Page Two. Then you can jump on, get the last word in, and run to your other little bitch friends and tell them how you conquered the mean old Conservatives.

I can spank your arse on any thread you prefer, Stan.

The sight of the American Flag may disgust you Vega, but I can assure you that our American Military personnel revere that symbol.

I bear nothing but pride for our flag. Because it stands for more than arrogance and posturing, Stan.

And our fine military wear the flag on every uniform and vehicle.

And Kingfisher, we’re talking about FLAGS. Don’t misread it and begin your homoerotic comments.
D-Vega

Oh, and Vega… I’ll be gone for a few days, so I’ll leave it up to others to counter your lies.

Need to give your rear a rest?
StanInTexas

I can spank your arse on any thread you prefer, Stan.

All evidence to the contrary!

And our fine military wear the flag on every uniform and vehicle.
Posted by D-Vega 2010-03-17 16:01:55

And over their base of operations as well, until the bastard-in-chief made them take it down because some moron who’s ass were are saving got his feelings hurt and complained.

But then again, I am addressing someone who thinks an armed invasion and a humanitatian effort are the same thing.

Do you enjoy being this stupid, Vega?
StanInTexas

Need to give your rear a rest?
Posted by D-Vega 2010-03-17 16:06:27

Keep your sick sexual fantasies to yourself, Vega!
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

The flag thing was pretty sad, Vega. Putting a flag over various encampments of foreign aid is a morale booster for Haitians, not something to upset them. “Wow, mon, look at all those people who came to help us from alla dem countries!”
D-Vega

They know U.S. military when they see them, CT. And they are appreciative.

What’s sad is the amount of phony outrage over something that is not only not a big deal, but something we have done before.
http://networdblog.blogspot.com/ Christopher_Taylor

The reason for not putting the flag up was pretty sad too, you gotta admit. Trying to appease French critics who said this was an invasion is about as pathetic as bowing to non-white heads of state (and mayors, dog catchers, what have you).

IN any case, can you even imagine what the present pathetic wretches at the ACLU would think during WW2?

“I understand your bombs are not carefully precision guided weapons that always hit their intended target, leaving no casualties except uniformed combatants? How many civilians died in your last air raid mister President? How many civilians are you killing with your wanton use of unguided ordnance?”

These people are so stupid it makes my teeth hurt, but it wouldn’t matter if only they didn’t have so much influence and such a loud voice. I don’t mind hapless, meaningless idiots like most protesters or CPUSA members. Its people with power and not enough wisdom to carry it out well that frustrate me.
StanInTexas

but something we have done before.
Posted by D-Vega 2010-03-17 16:38:15

You just have to lie, you cannot help it.

An armed invasion is not the same as a humanitarian effort, Vega. Get over yourself and let go already.
http://PatriotPost.US bthewolf

Posted by D-Vega
2010-03-17 16:38:15

Oh look, Vega loses another one and still claims victory! Next he’ll be tellings us most Americans want the Obamacare disaster.
whats_up

Maybe when you grow up and act mature, you can join the discussion. In the meanwhile, go to DU to throw your little childish tantrum.

Posted by Kingfisher
2010-03-17 14:30:17

LOL, that is funny coming from you King.
whats_up

Oh look, Vega loses another one and still claims victory! Next he’ll be tellings us most Americans want the Obamacare disaster.

Posted by bthewolf
2010-03-18 07:46:56

According to the latest poll 47% favor it, 46% oppose it, the rest undecided. It pretty much is a toss up as I also saw a poll that had the exact opposite numbers. Seems there are just as many that support it as oppose.

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