by John Hawkins | March 10, 2006 10:01 am
Question: In 1877, Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce Indian tribe spoke some of the most noble and heartbreaking words a human being has ever put together in and about defeat:
“I am tired of fighting. Our chiefs are killed. Looking Glass is dead. Toohoolhoolzote is dead. The old men are all dead. It is the young men who say, “Yes” or “No.” He who led the young men is dead. It is cold, and we have no blankets. The little children are freezing to death. My people, some of them, have run away to the hills, and have no blankets, no food. No one knows where they are — perhaps freezing to death. I want to have time to look for my children, and see how many of them I can find. Maybe I shall find them among the dead. Hear me, my chiefs! I am tired. My heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands I will fight no more forever.”
My question is regarding the Israeli/Palestine situation: Do you think there is any other path to victory for Israel outside driving the Palestinians into a complete and utter state of submission? Will it take a Chief Joseph in the Palestinian ranks to finally put an end to the violence there?
by President_Friedman on 2006-03-09 09:51:22 [delete]
Will it take a Chief Joseph in the Palestinian ranks to finally put an end to the violence there?” — President_Friedman
Answer: The problem with the Palestinians isn’t just their leaders, it’s the people and their sick, death cult culture. The reason there is no peace between the Israelis and Palestinians is because the Palestinians don’t want peace yet. They’re still holding out hope that somehow, some way, they’re going to “win” and be able to murder the Israelis and take their land.
Since that’s the case, here are 6 options that could lead to peace.
#1) Throughout history, the sort of conflict the Israelis and Palestinians have had has been settled rather simply: the stronger side slaughters the weaker. This is a very effective strategy, but it’s almost universally considered to be morally repugnant and beyond the pale in these days and times by Westerners (myself included). So although the Palestinians would certainly commit genocide against the Israelis, the reverse isn’t true. That means this option is out.
#2) The Israelis could simply give up and leave or allow the, “Right of Return,” which would lead to demographic suicide and eventually the Holocaust, part deux. However, since nations with top notch militaries and nuclear weapons don’t just roll over and die, this isn’t going to happen.
#3) Another possible way the conflict could be solved would involve the Israelis forcing the Palestinians into other countries and taking their land. To be honest, this would probably be the best solution despite all the problems it would cause for Israel. However, this is considered to be a rather extreme step and it probably won’t be seriously discussed until when and/or if the Palestinians commit some 9/11 style atrocity that causes the Israelis to radicalize.
#4) The Palestinians can have a leader step up who’ll start a Palestinian civil war, crush the terrorist groups, and establish a government monopoly on force. Then, once that occurs, that leader could negotiate a peace with Israel and start building a better life for his people. Unfortunately, the Palestinian leader who probably could have pulled that off, Arafat, just wasn’t that sort of guy. Now, there’s no one on the scene who seems willing or able to make this happen.
#5) Jordan or Egypt could simply absorb the Palestinian territories and use their security forces to get it under control while receiving massive amounts of US aid as compensation. However, since this would be unpopular, would lead to Palestinian terrorist attacks against Jordan or Egypt, and since wisely, neither nation would want to take in that many Palestinians, it won’t happen.
#6) Israel can completely wall off the Palestinians and do everything humanly possible to ramp up the misery level via collective punishment. In short, the goal would be to have Palestinians with no money, no work, no food, afraid, sitting in rubble, and throwing their feces in the streets. Then you hold out the carrot, show how good things could be if there was peace, and you wait until they, like Chief Joseph, throw in the towel. Is that cruel? Yes. But, so is blowing up buses full of Israeli kids.
One more thing: here’s what won’t work — rewarding the Palestinians for being unreasonable with promises of a state, more goodies, or more Israeli concessions. The world already went down that path with the Oslo accords and they accomplished absolutely nothing because the Palestinians acted like a nation full of psychopaths and were never held to account for it. More of the same failed tactics won’t accomplish anything.
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