by John Hawkins | December 18, 2003 8:38 pm
Many people on the anti-war left are still reeling from capture of Saddam Hussein. Oh the agony of it all! They had to grit their teeth and pretend to be happy about it; as if anything that helps Bush at the polls could be a good thing!
But just imagine…horror of all horrors…what if Bin Laden were captured? All the “sheeple” would be cheering, Bush’s approval rating would jump 20 points, why it would be the ultimate nightmare for the Democratic candidate!
So, the people at the Democratic Underground are preparing a little preemptive strike of their own. According to these folks at the DU, Bin Laden isn’t all that important. He hasn’t been convicted in a court of law has he? Why he’s probably just a fall guy for the crimes of the Bush Family Evil Empire (BFEE)! In fact, these people at the DU act as if they believe that Bush is the real enemy here, not Osama Bin Laden. Just look at these comments and you’ll see what I mean….
skjpm: “what, exactly, did bin laden do again?
All we know is that he cheered from the sidelines. What’s the point of capturing him? Is he directly involved in anything?
Since Bush is friends with the Bin Ladens, maybe he just picked one and said, “Can we use him as our bogeyman?” It could be that Osama volunteered to be poster”
GreenPartyVoter: “There’s still a possibility
he had a hand in 9/11.
Hard to tell, though. This Admin has coughed up so many lies on so many things now, I can’t see the truth anymore. (Which, I am sure, was the plan all along.)”
Devils Advocate NZ: …there is no such organisation as “Al Qaeda”. “Al Qaeda” was the name of a base in Afghanistan run by Bin Laden (and funded by the CIA) to train Arabs to fight against the Soviet occupation forces.
After that, Bin Ladin did not have an organisation as such but maintained links with various Islamic terrorist groups, which were refered to as the “Bin Ladin Network”. In 1998, Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin, Ayman al-Zawahiri (amir of the Jihad Group in Egypt), Abu-Yasir Rifa’i Ahmad Taha (Egyptian Islamic Group), Shaykh Mir Hamzah (secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan), and Fazlur Rahman (amir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh) released a statement proclaiming themselves to be the “World Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and Crusaders”.
Bin Ladin and his followers have NEVER refered to themselves as “Al Qaeda” and as such no such organisation EVER existed. As I said, the only “Al Qaeda” (“The Base”) that ever existed was a CIA training camp run by Bin Ladin in Afghanistan.
…Now ask yourself this question: Which side was the US supporting in Bosnia and Kosovo? If you answered “the Muslims”, give yourself one point, then ask yourself this question: Which side was Bin Ladin supporting in Bosnia and Kosovo? If you answered “the Muslims” give yourself another point, and then ask yourself this question:
Why was Bin Ladin supporting the same side as the US in Bosnia and Kosovo even after he supposedly declared jihad against the US?
If you answered “because Bin Ladin works for the CIA” give yourself a thousand points…”
leesa: “…We have never had any proof other than Iraq style unfounded allegations. Bush promised us proof…Tony Blair was supposed to release the “White Papers which were supposed to prove OBL did 911 beyond a shadow of a doubt. He never produced it.
Did OBL do it? No one knows and that is the point. We are calling for his head and we bombed innocent Afghanistan for ten months without any investigation of the crime and no concrete proof offered.
There is Faaaar more circumstantial proof that Bush was involved than OBL.”
DuctapeFatwa: “He has served the CIA faithfully for 27 years
He has been directly involved in all his assignments for his employer.”
SpiralHawk: “To this day I have seen no evidence that bin Laden had involvement in 9/11. Nor have I ever seen a report that he was claiming involvement or responsibility.
What evidence has the Bush Administration shown to the American people? I’d like to consider it.
I’m prepared to believe bin Laden is culpable (BFEE LIHOP or not), but I would at least like to see evidence of his guilt.
These wars are getting mighty expensive — not just in terms of money we are spending to enrich Halliburton and all the rest — but also in terms of our international credibility and standing. Mighty expensive.
Shouldn’t we have some evidence before ChimpCo keeps on wildly spending all our wealth chasing “evildoers” without hard evidence of their “evildoing.”
jokerman2004: “I thought it was an establsihed fact that
the nineteen 9/11 operatives were Saudi.
That’s Saudi Arabia. I’ve never believed OBL or “Alqueida”(sp) was the perp. OBL was the boogey man, but then Bush had the Iraq tie-in he needed to pull off.
Enter SH — substitute boogeymen — more easily exploited.”
spindoctor: “The prosecution would not stand a chance in court
Providing they can find an unbiased jury, of course.
There is only circumstancial evidence against Bin Laden. The video that was released as the smoking gun, the undisputable evidence that Bin Laden was the mastermind behind the attack, only reveals that he had prior knowledge of the event.
Other than that, I (personally) have never seen conclusive evidence. We have a mighty big lynch mob out there, so it is probably useless to point out that we are supposed to concider people innocent until proven guilty, but objectively I have never seen proof that OBL is guilty as charged.
Call me silly, but I like to see proof…real proof, especially when statements are brought to life by an Administration that is notorious for spreading lies and insinuations.”
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