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John Hawkins How Little Green Footballs Reminds Me Of The Korean War
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If you were reading the right side of the blogosphere yesterday, you probably noticed someone commenting on the fact that Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs finally made his break with the Right official with a post.

It was a silly little missive that essentially amounted to: "Everyone I used to think was good is bad now! I don't know how I missed it before!" Go read it if you like, but you won't learn much from it. It's mostly standard lefty boilerplate like:

3. Support for throwing women back into the Dark Ages, and general religious fanaticism (see: Operation Rescue, anti-abortion groups, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, the entire religious right, etc.)
So, did the entire religious Right just join with the GOP last week or something? How does Sarah Palin fit in with that whole "throwing women back into the Dark Ages" idea?

Like I said, it's a silly little missive.

In any case, I was reading a response to the piece by Robert Stacy McCain. He has been turned into one of the hate objects over at Little Green Footballs and Charles Johnson has been falsely, dishonestly, and relentlessly smearing him as a racist -- despite the fact that McCain has a blog and Johnson doesn't seem to be able to point to any actual racism on it. Personally, I'd think that if he were this seething racist who despised black people and wrote multiple articles per day, it might actually seep into his writing -- but looking for that kind of evidence might spoil the whole narrative, right? McCain's a racist without writing racist things while Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are fascists, despite the fact that they don't advocate fascism, yada, yada, yada. Using Charles Johnson's own hyped up guilt-by-association logic, he's a racist fascist, since he used to freely associate with those people, but whatever, I'm getting off track here.

There was a particular part of Robert Stacy McCain's piece about Charles Johnson that produced an ah-ha moment for me:
Exactly what prompted this? Why this? Why now? Your guess is as good as mine.

No, that's wrong. My guess is probably much better than yours, because I followed the whole thing -- LGF and the Madness of King Charles -- back to its roots. So far as can be determined, CJ's descent into madness began when Johnson attacked Pamela Geller for her attendance at the October 2007 Brussels conference.

CJ kept up the attacks, which expanded to include Jihad Watch, Gates of Vienna, Diana West and others -- serially throwing them under his Little Green Bus -- but the rest of the conservative blogosphere tried to ignore it. Shortly before the 2008 election, CJ declared Robert Spencer of JihadWatch unlinkable:
Paul Belien of Brussels Journal is deeply connected with the Vlaams Belang, and Robert knows this. The fact that he’s put them back in his blogroll speaks volumes about the choice he's made.

And Gates of Vienna has turned into a reeking sewer of racism. I'm done with Robert Spencer. And very, very disappointed in him.
You see the control-freak method here: CJ declares that a list of people and groups (in this case, Brussels Journal, Paul Belien, Vlaams Belang, Gates of Vienna) are unacceptable. Anyone who doesn't accept CJ's categorization is a "sympathizer" and therefore also unacceptable. Gates of Vienna quipped:
As the arbiter of membership in the Counterjihad, Charles Johnson has finally made it official: he’s a Counterjihad of One.
All of that happened before Election Day 2008. It wasn't until after Election Day that I finally spoke out:
Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs has apparently decided that the problem with the conservative movement is that it needs more purges, and Pam Geller at Atlas Shrugs seems to be his designated scapegoat. . . .

Pam is a good person and I would suggest that this guilt-by-association "urge to purge" is antithetical to the best interests of conservatism. You can't build a movement by the process of subtraction.
That was Nov. 5, 2008. In February of this year, I spoke out again when CJ attacked Ann Coulter and spoke out again in April when Johnson smeared Pamela Geller as a "Poster Girl for Eurofascists." Two days later, after CJ threatened Michelle Malkin (!) because she continued linking JihadWatch, I wrote:

Is there someone -- anyone -- who can stop this madness?

Apparently not. If the conservative movement would not acknowledge Charles Johnson's authority to decide who was and was not acceptable as a member of the conservative movement, then Johnson would not be a member of the conservative movement.
Do you know what this reminded me of? This is going to sound a little loopy -- it reminded me of Chinese brainwashing techniques that were used during the Korean War. Now don't get the wrong idea: Any brainwashing done here was done by Charles himself, but let me explain how it worked in Korea and I think you'll see the connection.

When the Chinese took American prisoners, they would mistreat and torture them, get them alone, and say something like, "Look, we'd like you to write something negative about your country. Anything negative." After the prisoner complied, the Chinese would read it to his fellow prisoners, who would then treat him like garbage.

This would reduce the prisoner's bond with his fellow prisoners, increase his like for the Chinese who gave him better treatment for writing the letter, and they would repeat the exercise.

After doing it enough times, they would show the prisoner all these negative things he had written about his own country, without being forced, and they'd tell him that maybe his country wasn't so great after all. By this point, his fellow prisoners didn't like him and he felt a great need to keep identity consistent. Didn't he write all those negative things? Didn't he believe what he wrote? So, to be consistent, didn't he need to admit that his country was a pretty lousy place?

How well did the brainwashing actually work? That's debatable:
According to Jeffrey K. Hadden, the concept of brainwashing first came into public use during the Korean War in the 1950s as an explanation for why a few American GIs appeared to defect to the Communists. Brainwashing consisted of the notion that the Chinese communists had discovered a mysterious and effective method of causing deep and permanent behavioral changes in prisoners of war.

The idea was central to the 1962 movie The Manchurian Candidate in which a soldier was turned into an assassin through brainwashing. It is also central to The Ipcress File, where Michael Cain tries to resist being re-programmed.

Two studies of the Korean War defections by Robert Lifton and Edgar Schein concluded that "brainwashing" was an inappropriate concept to account for this renunciation of U.S. citizenship. They found that the Chinese did not engage in any systematic re-education. The Chinese were, however, able to get some of them to make anti-American statements by placing the prisoners under harsh conditions of deprivation and then by offering them more comfortable situations such as better sleeping quarters, better food, warmer clothes or blankets. Nevertheless, the psychiatrists noted that even these were quite ineffective at changing basic attitudes for most people. In essence, the prisoners did not actually convert to Communism. Rather many of them behaved as though they did in order to avoid the plausible threat of extreme physical coercion. Moreover the few prisoners that were influenced by Communist indoctrination did so as a result of motives and personality characteristics that existed before imprisonment.
Now, let's look at Charles Johnson. He was an extremely well read, influential blogger on the Right who essentially declared his competitors, Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer, to be these horrible, beyond the pale monsters -- and the response was crickets chirping. Pamela has told me that it actually hurt her traffic quite a bit at the time, but I never heard a single negative comment about her or Spencer in relation to anything Charles Johnson said.

So, Charles Johnson who thinks he's the big important person on the Right, makes this pronouncement, it seems to have no effect, and worse yet, he catches flack for it from many of the people who were his strongest supporters.

He starts to think, Gee, maybe these people I've been friendly with for years aren't so great after all. Then Charles, who was probably holding his tongue about a number of things in the first place because he was to the left-of-center, starts to branch out and each new topic produces a similar effect.

He attacks Christians. He loses readers. He gets attacked by his former friends. He likes them a little less and gets a bit more alienated.

He buys into global warming. He loses readers. He gets attacked by his former friends. He likes them a little less and gets a bit more alienated.

He attacks Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin. He loses readers. He gets attacked by his former friends. He likes them a little less and gets a bit more alienated.

He decides the Tea Party movement is bad news. He loses readers. He gets attacked by his former friends. He likes them a little less and gets a bit more alienated.

Now, to keep his identity consistent after all the things he has written, he has to be Andrew Sullivan -- except without the big media resume and the ability to write. Enjoy the head pats and belly scratches you'll get from the Left while you can, son. The anti-Jihadists don't trust you, the Right won't forget the betrayal, and the liberals will use you and spit you out without ever accepting you. It's a terrible shame that someone who had the sort of success most bloggers could only dream of, crumpled it up and tossed it away.

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  • I've never seen someone break away like this and then get slammed as an imposter-all-along.

    Dennis Miller
    Zell Miller
    Ron Silver
    Joe Lieberman

    Some break away due to ideology, some due to money (I remember when John Cole was begging for attention because he couldn't stand out as a righty blogger. It pays, literally, to slam the right).

    Perhaps Mr. Johnson just realized that the positions the right has taken on issue of our time are simply...wrong.

    I don't read LGF. The only time I went there was during Rathergate. I stopped when a lot of my lefty friends kept telling me what a hateful site it was and I decided that there were SOME boundaries that just shouldn't be crossed. If Mr. Johnson, or anyone, disagrees on issues, then "having it out" is the way to go and let the debate of ideas be undertaken! The problem, which you conveniently ignored, is that (from what I gather, since I don't go there) LGF doesn't argue against the right, he goes out of his way to besmirch the reputations and character of anyone who he disagrees with (see: Sullivan, Andrew). Anyone can sit at their computers and say nasty things about people they don't like...even the diminutive Markos Moulistas, who couldn't intimidate a 4th grader (they're bigger than he is) has learned how to master that craft.
  • D-Vega
    I said I wasn't starting an arguement over it, CT. I don't know enough about the guy to comment on it, besides saying I find it interesting.
  • Yeah, as Safari notes, Johnson was a leftist, then 9/11 shocked him into fighting against terrorism and Islamic radicalism, which put him alongside conservatives and many libertarians temporarily. When that commonality faded, he moved back to where he'd always been. Vega doesn't care to consider that, he just wants to find something to attack about conservatives.
  • Posted by mightysamurai
    2009-12-03 10:40:21

    Most of the liberals shit on Joe when Ko$ and his minions went after him supporting Lamont. Nixon has yet to see any condemnation of this from the liberals on this website.
  • I've never seen someone break away like this and then get slammed as an imposter-all-along.


    *cough*JoeLieberman*cough*
  • SabianKinslow
    Actually it does not seem very surprising. I have some friends who were STAUNCH Bush fans. Hell their daughters had signed pictures of President Bush in their rooms. They were also far right leaning people. Now...they are firm cheerleaders for Obama. Why? Especially when they admit they are against 75% of what Obama is for. I can only think the mental disease is contageous. Either that or people are just getting too tired of fighting for what's right and just to give in and stop the pain of resistance.
  • Safari_Man
    Its bizarre that Johnson has swung so far to the extremes in the last few years. He was a liberal (before anybody knew him except his music), then 9/11 happened and he became conservative (I suppose). Then Obama won and Sarah Palin came on the scene and he flipped back in an extreme fashion. When I compare that wild vacillation to my life's experience, I have had the same philosophical perspective since I was a teenager (long time ago), and have only gotten more and more confident of my positions with age. I have never considered liberalism to make sense -- I value truth and honesty and a grasp on reality. Someone who can swing so far to the extremes appears to have severe mental end emotional issues. But then, that describes almost all liberals I've ever known.
  • Bill_Dalasio
    Posted by docweasel
    2009-12-02 22:22:42

    Thanks for the excellent background and analysis. I'd noticed Mr. Johnson's (and AFAIK his name actually is Charles Foster Johnson) turn of mind seemed to coincide distinctly with the meltdown at Pajamas Media. I'd thought it was a financial issue. It turns out to be nothing more than an ego fit.
  • Check Kos for his latest talking points about how New York has big news! He was so excited... oops.
  • I have no fear just pitty for you.

    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-12-02 22:22:52

    Thanks for playing.
  • William Teach
    Don't forget, Chucky was one of the founders of PJM. Hey was pretty ticked when they mostly forced him out, and rightly so. Then he had a hissy over RS McCain being allowed to post at PJM, so, he banned any reference to PJM, and any links. So, PJM removed his bio from their About page. Heh!
  • I "pitty" people who can't spell.
  • Palin_will_lose
    Like rush has your talking points. Again yawn.

    I have no fear just pitty for you.
  • I think you're correct on the continuing process, but not correct on the actual "big bang" of why he decided to start deeming people "fascists" in the first place (and all that came after).

    One thing is the entire PJMedia experiment. Protein Wisdom also had some mighty angst about this: Roger Simon (and others in the group) revealed a hurtful fact to Johnson and others on the trough: PJM had been playing members for displaying ads over and above what they brought in. After 2 years, the seed money was gone, the investors wanted out and no more were to be had, so the blog welfare was shut off. Johnson and others felt betrayed and misused (don't ask me why, there was some bitching that Simon had "misled" them by not telling them they were deadbeats a long time before. Frankly, I think he was pretty DAMN fair with them.

    Be that as it may, it started a feud between a prominent right-blogger and some of the biggies in the business: Instapundit, Roger Simon, all of PJM vs. Johnson.

    How does he respond? By ridiculing any points the right daily makes: listen, we all know how blogs work. A lot of what we do is "gotcha" to the other side. We've seen people at Redstate and Breitbart get on their high horses and say "let's not be like the left, let's not be petty"- well, I firmly believe Bush's numbers cratered largely because of the daily cheap attacks on all sides, so I say fuck that, and attack Obama with everything we've got.

    So, Johnson gets on his high horse and ridicules the same game he used to play, playing "gotcha" with the left on petty things. Not only that, he starts being reflexively, and offensively, against anything and everything the other rightblogs, whom he now despises more and more as he moves on to other subjects, as you say, turn against him.

    It was a slam dunk he'd be a contrarian on Climategate, just like the tea-parties and health care "reform" and the stimulus, because the right was against or for any of these things, he must do and say the opposite. Such was his bitterness, exacerbated by, as you say, his accelerating descent into alienating everyone who every liked him.

    Finally, I think Johnson thinks of himself as a pretty hip fellow. "Hip" people are open-minded and classically liberal, at least in their own minds. They are fine with gay marriage and haven't a bigoted bone in their body (in their, hip minds), they are just too cool for that.

    So when every media mention of LGF labels it "Anti-Islamic hate-site, LGF", that had to grate on Johnson. Now he had to prove he was anti-jihad, but go bat-shit crazy over the top to prove he was not an anti-Arab bigot (he even expunged some old posts where he used unfortunate epithets like ragheads and the like).

    So, he had to attack other rightblogs, knowing the left and the media LOVE a righty on righty feud and he'd get props for calling out the racist righties: hell, the leftists think we're ALL racists, right, so Johnson had to be correct on this!

    Bottom line though, unlike Balloonjuice, which also went from hard right to hard left, Johnson was too big a figure on the right for the left to ever embrace him (see Rathergate, which might have handed the election to Bush).

    And 99% of the right hates him. Even small potatoes like AJStrata and Zombie, some of his last defenders, made an unwise comment or two and were ejected. There's barely anyone left, except about a dozen hard-core sycophants on the LGF comments board.

    But here's the rub, and the truly psychotic thing about this: there's a "Bandemonium" thread on a funny little blog, where banned LGFers gather to laugh at CJ and bemoan how the community has splintered there. But there are more than a few previously obsessive posters who claim that hard-core CJ suck-ups are none other than alters (sockpuppets) for CJ himself: he has accidently posted obviously as the site owner, forgetting to log off the sockpuppet accounts, then quickly deleting the comment, but not before these constant reloaders saw it. You troll your own comments threads 24/7 like he does, posting repeatedly as many different people, it's bound to happen. And it has, many, many times.

    The madness of King Charles might be deeper than you think. He crowed about getting 6k pagehits yesterday like it was an Instalanche. Our site is FAR from a top-shelf righty blog, and we get 2k-2.5k pagehits a day. And we don't allow comments: he has an active comment community who must reload dozens of times EACH many times a day.

    I think the only time anyone goes there at all is to see what madness he's descended to now.

    Look for him to self-destruct early next year, I'm guessing. He'll completely lose it, and in a fit of pique, flounce off and close the site. Why keep it open if both sides detest you and everyone holds you in slight regard?
  • Yawn have my IP checked Colombo.


    You at the wifi cafe or truckstop tonight?
  • You hang on to the banned ones right?

    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-12-02 22:11:10

    Nope. Just stating a fact sparky. Again, let go your fear of conservatives and head on back over to Ko$. Markos has your daily feeding of talking points ready by now.
  • Palin_will_lose
    Yawn have my IP checked Colombo. You hang on to the banned ones right?
  • (I have been lurking here over a year but never made a acct so no gotcha games Dicky)



    why are you worried about being outed as a troll? Nixon supposes the fact that 3 or 4 trolls have been outed by Nixon concerns you for some reason. Guilt perhaps? And the fact you claim you lurked here for a year, register, and post absolute complete drivel shows your lack of intelligence. Failure to learn anything over a year = slow learner.

    Hate the game, don't hate the player.
  • roglewis
    What does he care if I believe God made us or I believe we evolved from the swamp water? -rwnewsnut

    I'm actually pretty sure that my old boss evolved from swamp water...
  • What do you call a brother and sister that have kids with each other....... Your parents. Try harder get new material that one is on the house, Pussy

    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-12-02 22:01:44

    wonk wonk wonk. Thanks for playing dufus. You and the other 52% of the voting electorate really added a lot to the country last November.

    Sure you have lurked here. Sure thing sockpuppetus erectus.

    Again, anyone who thinks Charles Johnson is a conservative is a moron.

    Your attempt to hate on Nixon = epic fail, just like your messiah, the Obamateur.
  • Palin_will_lose
    "The fact that you think Charles was a conservative at any time proves you are a moron, not a liar. As far as my wife thinking Nixon is a man, go ask you mom. Nixon is the guy she gives change back from a ten for using her like a wet rag."

    The fact you use that mom line 7-8 times now over the last year says alot. Your like a bad comic using the same material over and over and over. Much like your movement no new Ideas. (I have been lurking here over a year but never made a acct so no gotcha games Dicky)

    "So you were banned by Eric. No shame there, he kicks the trash out pretty harshly at times."

    Sorry try again, my acct is alive and kicking.

    "As far as being a pussy, Nixon supposes you'd kick his ass if we met?"

    Not at all never said that. Well the pussy thing I did say because you are. But not the kick your ass thing reread it sport. I called you a internet thug and a pussy. Why are you adding stuff that was not said?

    "Typical little POS liberal hiding behind his keyboard and multiple user names. Now what was your former user name again here?"

    You are slow right? You must be.

    Some help for you on mom jokes. Try this one

    What do you call a brother and sister that have kids with each other....... Your parents. Try harder get new material that one is on the house, Pussy
  • You want to have a really tight like minded Minority, that has no chance of ever regaining power. You are doing a great job to getting there.



    Then why so worried are you? You aren't a conservative, Obot. Why are you here?
  • PWL, what do you post under over at Lizard World? KKKilgore Trout by chance, or are you that douche Sharmuta? Just curious.
  • No Dick im not gay I just need an example of a small pecker and you where the first to pop in my mind.

    Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-12-02 21:42:45

    Nixon sees your old lady has been telling you lies about him to make you feel more manly. Don't worry, Nixon won't take the whore away from you, Nixon prefers not to swim in dirty water, if you know what Nixon means.

    And since there is nothing to fear from conservatives why are you, and others exactly like you, here and on every other conservative political blog spouting the same drivel almost word for word? Rather coincidental if you ask Nixon.

    You still claiming that CJ was a conservative? Bet you think McCain was one as well.
  • Palin_will_lose
    Kinda McCarthy-ish of you, Mr Taylor. Why does the right have to be 100% or nothing. What is so wrong with supporting 4 out of 5 righty topics. I know to you its a sin if you are not 100% vested in the movement. Whats sooooo wrong about supporting small govt,low taxes, pro life and being pro gun control. Or any combo of the such.

    You want to have a really tight like minded Minority, that has no chance of ever regaining power. You are doing a great job to getting there.

    Keep telling everyone that is 80% leaning to the right they are liberals. And you can watch your Movement shrink to the size of Dick Nixons penis.

    No Dick im not gay I just need an example of a small pecker and you where the first to pop in my mind.
  • William Teach
    I had thought, after John's last post about Excitable Chucky, that he was mellowing out, chilling on the bat sh*t crazy. Most of the serious wacky had disappeared, and, at the same time, so did the amount of posts.

    One of my blog friends, TFMo, did this great drawing: http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/wteach/An...
  • I'm not going to start an argument over it, I just find it fascinating.

    Posted by D-Vega
    2009-12-02 17:46:31

    Turns out ol Charles is a moby. The most successful moby in Internet history.
  • 2)The Democrats are in charge and you HATE it.


    18% of the formerly working population of America hate it as well.
  • Not that you would believe anything I would say


    The fact that you think Charles was a conservative at any time proves you are a moron, not a liar. As far as my wife thinking Nixon is a man, go ask you mom. Nixon is the guy she gives change back from a ten for using her like a wet rag.

    So you were banned by Eric. No shame there, he kicks the trash out pretty harshly at times.

    Thanks for playing. Anyone who thinks Obamateur is a success is, you guessed it, a moron.

    As far as being a pussy, Nixon supposes you'd kick his ass if we met? Typical little POS liberal hiding behind his keyboard and multiple user names. Now what was your former user name again here?
  • I've never seen someone break away like this and then get slammed as an imposter-all-along.

    Years ago I pegged LGF and several others as blogs that were not conservative, but seemed to be because they were on board with the war on terror and the need to fight radical Muslim terrorism. 9/11 brought a lot of people together like that, but you could tell who wasn't really on board for it all and who was. The really weak and uncertain ones fell away early: Sullivan, Balloon Juice; others took longer.

    Now, even after clearly admitting he's not a conservative (as has Andrew Sullivan), leftists still claim Charles Johnson is one.

    Really who would be surprised that conservatives would react poorly to someone spewing the kind of idiotic hate and lies he did at the entire movement in a vain attempt to seek like one of the "cool" kids on the left? That kind of pathetic bleating doesn't win any friends, but the left will take anyone who mouths the right lines, no matter how treacherous or pathetic they are.
  • Palin_will_lose
    Not that you would believe anything I would say but here you go.

    1)yes............... he has been one for many years
    2)no................. I came here from redstate
    3)no................. way too early

    I have a few questions for you now. Yes or no would be great.

    1)You told your wife you really like men.

    2)The Democrats are in charge and you HATE it.

    3)You are just an internet thug in real life your a huge pussy.
  • Posted by Palin_will_lose
    2009-12-02 16:58:25

    How about a simple yes or no from you spanky on the following:

    1. Charles Johnson is a conservative

    2. You have never posted here under another user name.

    3. Obama is a failure as POTUS.

    Thanks.
  • Palin_will_lose
    Except Joe is a politician. He moves with the political wind. SO your point is what?
  • TheBaud
    And there it is. Once you break from towing the movements line. You where never a Conservative in the first place.

    Posted by Palin_will_lose 2009-12-02 16:58:25


    Fascinating comment, Palin_will_lose, and a very interesting subject. In fact, Joe Lieberman and I were discussing this just the other day.
  • D-Vega
    This is pretty interesting. I've never seen someone break away like this and then get slammed as an imposter-all-along.

    LGF was once a standard under which all conservo-blogs aspired to be.

    I'm not going to start an argument over it, I just find it fascinating.
  • rwnewsnut
    I stopped going to LGF. What is with all the evolution/creationist stuff? WHO CARES! What does he care if I believe God made us or I believe we evolved from the swamp water?
  • Palin_will_lose
    And there it is. Once you break from towing the movements line. You where never a Conservative in the first place. I bet if rush one day said something like. "You know what I was wrong women should have the right to choose" Next day the right would say that commie liberal was never one of us.

    Funny stuff I also like how you would post up links from that very same "Liberal" site LGF.
  • Posted by whats_up
    2009-12-02 15:09:25

    Now thats Funny!
  • Bill_Dalasio
    Somehow, I suspect Johnson's response will be something akin to this:

    Don't worry about me, Gettys! Hawkins. Don't worry about me! I'm Charles Foster Kane Johnson! I'm no cheap, crooked politician conservative, teabagging blogger, trying to save himself from the consequences of his crimes being right-wing!
    Gettys Hawkins! I'm going to send you to Sing Sing! Sing Sing, Gettys! Sing Sing! the banned list! Banned list, Hawkins! Banned list!
  • Perhaps Mr. Johnson just realized that the positions the right has taken on issue of our time are simply...wrong.
    Posted by whats_up
    2009-12-02 15:09:25

    Well then that's move away from facts and reality and into Fantasy, but then that's where all liberals live.
  • I disagree, John. I think the answer is found right here:

    Moreover the few prisoners that were influenced by Communist indoctrination did so as a result of motives and personality characteristics that existed before imprisonment.


    I think the same thing was going on with Charles Johnson. He was always a liberal or at least had liberal characteristics. They just didn't come out until a short time ago.
  • TheBaud
    Perhaps Mr. Johnson just realized that the positions the right has taken on issue of our time are simply...wrong.
    Posted by whats_up 2009-12-02 15:09:25


    Or more likely, he is just another ignorant Liberal prick like you.
  • whats_up
    Perhaps Mr. Johnson just realized that the positions the right has taken on issue of our time are simply...wrong.
  • Yeah he never really was a conservative, he was one of those folks who, after 9/11, joined the conservative side to fight against tyranny temporarily but when that bond was over, quit for his true nature once more.
  • Charles Johnson is the greatest moby in Internet history. He successsfully impersonated a conservative for 6 years or so, when in fact, he isn't one. And never was one.

    Andi Sullivan has fully embraced Charles.

    wink wink, nudge nudge.
  • riteguy
    Great article. I'm one of the gazillions "banned" from LGF for no reason whatsoever. CJ is a lefty, always has been. He had a momentary lapse, post 9/11 for a year or so, but snapped out of it after seeing who his new friends were, and having it scare the panties off of him. Anyone who uses the terms "racist", and "fascist" is from the hard left. No conservative would ever utter such tripe. I feel foolish for even registering in the first place. But I must say, being banned is a badge of honor
  • BIG
    I was finally evicted from LGF during the Hasan night. I had been posting there for years, but had slowed down considerably during the past couple of years. It really wasn't anything I posted that got me evicted, it was my avatar that I put up years ago and never changed. It was probably because I hadn't made any comments recently that the new thought police at LGF didn't notice me.

    I use to really like LGF. One of the things I liked was his position on no discussion of abortion at all. I wanted to talk politics and the middle east and abortion is something I prefer not to discuss. But when I saw threads about abortion start to pop up a few months ago, I knew LGF had finally jumped the shark. I wish Charles Johnson all the best, but I will not go back there.
  • Mike_M
    Trying to apply logic and reason to the liberal thought process is a waste of time. This story got boring months ago anyways. Johnson was always a liberal, his big break just happened to come at the expense of the left and Dan Rather.
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