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Grist: Japanese Earthquake And Tsunami “What Climate Change Looks Like”

Written By : William Teach

I really, really, really wanted to avoid posting something like this today, after the tragedy in Japan. Despite being the best prepared country in the world for earthquakes and tsunamis, we know that the damage and death toll will continue to rise.

Typically, the second thing I do after offering prayers and/or condolences when something happens to a conservative is to see the disgusting comments and posts at Left leaning sites. With natural disasters, the second thing I do is look to see if they will link it to the globull warming hoax. And, Christopher Mims at Grist is the first: Today’s tsunami: This is what climate change looks like

So far, today’s tsunami has mainly affected Japan — there are reports of up to 300 dead in the coastal city of Sendai — but future tsunamis could strike the U.S. and virtually any other coastal area of the world with equal or greater force, say scientists. In a little-heeded warning issued at a 2009 conference on the subject, experts outlined a range of mechanisms by which climate change could already be causing more earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanic activity.

“When the ice is lost, the earth’s crust bounces back up again and that triggers earthquakes, which trigger submarine landslides, which cause tsunamis,” Bill McGuire, professor at University College London, told Reuters.

Melting ice masses change the pressures on the underlying earth, which can lead to earthquakes and tsunamis, but that’s just the beginning. Rising seas also change the balance of mass across earth’s surface, putting new strain on old earthquake faults, and may have been partly to blame for the devastating 2004 tsunami that struck Southeast Asia, according to experts from the China Meteorological Administration.

Yes, he is blaming the earthquake and tsunami specifically on man induced “climate change.” In a sane world, Grist would yank that post, and fire Mims for this disgusting display of insanity.

Anonymous

I did not sleep well at all last night.

Do you think that was caused by manmade global warming?

Anonymous

Me, too! Up much of the night. Either Man Made Global Warming That Will Destroy The World And Kill Us All (MMGWTWDTWAKUA) or maybe power waves from the groaning, suffering Gai, or maybe millions of voices suddenly snuffed out disturbing the Force. Or something. Bu$hilterburton’s fault, of course, too.

http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

If all the ice in the world melted, the ocean levels would rise a few feet. Wondering how much pressure that is? Go to the bottom of a swimming pool and feel it. That little, itty bitty widdle bit of extra pressure could not possibly cause an Earthquake. The pressure it requires to actually make rock flow and bend is immense, far greater than a warming climate could ever cause.

As to the ice caps, they haven’t gone through any significant change. It takes an immense amount of energy to convert ice into water, part of the reason why summer temperatures in the arctic remain unchanged. In fact, the ice caps have been growing in recent years. There is no logic or science behind this ludicrous argument.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQOQVEFI4N7DIJ6KXQOQJO77JA Erick

Your math is incorrect.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Really? How so? And you can provide what proof?
Anonymous

If all the ice on the north pole melted it would not raise sea levels 1 inch.

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

If the ice were floating around up in the sky somewhere or on another planet, it might make a difference by weight, but its already applying pressure to the planet. Its on the planet now, if it was spread out over the entire surface of the oceans, it would be less pressure on the crust, not more. You know, like how you can lie on thin ice you can’t walk on.

http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

The melting ice would remove pressure from the polar regions, assuming it is at least a little bit on land and causing pressure to the crust. Theoretically, this could cause pressure changes at the poles, but the pressure changes farther away? That’s a long way to go. I don’t have the answer, but the idea seems rather facile to me.

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

Given the differences in crust construction, fracture lines, plates, and overall vast distances that just seems incredibly unlikely, to say the least.

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

Meh, Grist is pretty much crap. They’re the guys who spread the lie that Reagan’s Interior Secretary Watt claimed Jesus was coming soon so they could rape the earth and not worry about taking care of the environment.
Anonymous

Around here in the Pac Northwest, the land is rebounding about 1/4 inch per year from the weight of the ice that was here during the last ice age. Of course, that ice was on land, has retreated over a thousand miles north, and was 12 – 14,000 years ago! Most Arctic ice is over water, is not nearly as thick as the ice here in the ice age, AND is both growing here and retreating there, and back and forth. The “melt = earthquakes” MIGHT make sense IF the half mile of ice retreated only a decade ago or so, but it didn’t! Twits.
Martin Hale

What Mr. McGuire said is highly misleading. It’s true that land which had been weighed down by ice does rebound upward when the ice melts. That much is accurate. But depending on a number of other factors, it may or may not cause earthquakes. Most of Scandinavia has rebounded between 90 and 100 feet since the end of the last glaciation there. But there have been very few earthquakes which have resulted from it.

But even more deceptively, Mr. McGuire conveniently left of the stark fact that the fault which ruptured off the coast of Japan, is not in an area that is rebounding from any glaciation. The fault which ruptured is one associated with the Japan Subduction Trench at the western perimeter of the Pacific Ocean plate. It’s an area where the crustal material which makes up the sea floor is being driven under the Asian plate. And as any fule noes, the process of subduction has naught to do with glaciation in any way, shape or form.

So in that regard, what Mr. McGuire said was as wrong as it can be.

http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

But, see, Martin, something happened somewhere else in the world because someone drove an SUV or took an unnecessary fossil fueled flight (like Gore, who is heading down to Costa Rica for a conference), which caused something something and something else so that the earth shifted at the subduction zone, which has NEVER happened before, and can only something something because of Mankind.

And, obviously, when the San Andreas lets go in Southern California, it will be the fault of all the glaciers that didn’t cover the fault in that area causing rebound along a transform right-lateral strike-slip fault.
Anonymous

Of course, McGuire never said any such thing about the quake off of Japan. He said similar tsunamis could be caused by later effects of climate change.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

“”When the ice is lost, the earth’s crust bounces back up again and that triggers earthquakes, which trigger submarine landslides, which cause tsunamis,” Bill McGuire, professor at University College London, told Reuters.”

No he’s implying it was a cause of this earthquake, but please keep spinning the moonbattery.

Anonymous

Reading is not your strong suit, eh:

“but future tsunamis could strike the U.S. and virtually any other coastal area of the world with equal or greater force, say scientists. In a little-heeded warning issued at a 2009 conference on the subject, experts outlined a range of mechanisms by which climate change could already be causing more earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanic activity.”

2009 conferences talking about how climate change might affect THIS Tsunami? In an area with no glaciers and not near the pole? Learn to read multiple paragraphs.
Anonymous

Reading is not your strong suit, eh:

“but future tsunamis could strike the U.S. and virtually any other coastal area of the world with equal or greater force, say scientists. In a little-heeded warning issued at a 2009 conference on the subject, experts outlined a range of mechanisms by which climate change could already be causing more earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanic activity.”

2009 conferences talking about how climate change might affect THIS Tsunami? In an area with no glaciers and not near the pole? Learn to read multiple paragraphs.

Anonymous

Hell, if aliens attacked Battle:LA style, they would blame it on climate change. Just goes to show you that they will use anything, even a horrific tragedy, to further their agenda. I wonder if James Cameron ever gave any of those millions he made off of Titanic back to the families of those who died on that ship?

http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

I just got back from seeing that movie. Really good!

http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

I can’t watch alien invasion movies anymore. Aliens are always retarded in the movies. What’s the first nation they attack? America. Why attack the world’s most powerful nation first? America is reliant on a black, liquid resource that primarily comes from some of the militarily weakest nations on the planet. Why not eliminate those countries, wait a month for the strategic oil reserves to run out, then invade America?

Actually understanding war makes war movies suck, unless it is about something that actually happened… Except Inglorious Basterds, that was just awesome!

http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

Didn’t you know, there were no earthquakes before the hockey stick started its uptick!

http://twitter.com/libtardian Gunny Joe

“the second thing I do after offering prayers and/or condolences when something happens to a conservative is to see the disgusting comments and posts at Left leaning sites.”

That is pretty sad. Get a life.

Anonymous

Heh. As a blogger, its kind of his job.

Btw, what’s a “libtardian”?

Anonymous

I don’t get your whining about this article. Mims spoke with scientists and quotes the Chinese Meteorological Society about the possible effects of climate change and how these effects compare to something in the news.

Are you just allergic to someone mentioning the words “climate change.” Science just makes conservatives angry, doesn’t it? Although to be fair, the only motivation you have, Mr. Teach, is resentment, so I doubt science can make it through that haze.

http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Bad science and stupidity makes us angry. There is now more validity to climate change than there is that melting the polar ice caps would cause earthquakes.
http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

Bad science and stupidity makes us angry. There is now more validity to climate change than there is that melting the polar ice caps would cause earthquakes.

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