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Why Veena Malik’s Smackdown of an Egyptian Mullah was a Seminal Moment for Feminism
Written By : Susannah Fleetwood

Two days ago, Allahpundit picked up the story of gorgeous Pakistani actress, Veena Malik, courageously going off on an Egyptian Mullah who accused her of “immorality” because he didn’t approve of her appearance, or the fact that that she appeared on an Indian equivalent of the television show Big Brother. Jonah Goldberg was the first major blogger to report on this story, and it has been all over the right-wing blogosphere ever since. So, what makes this a possible seminal moment for feminism instead of just another viral video? Well…several things.

First of all, the liberal mainstream media has hardly been chomping at the bit to report any story regarding Islamic violence towards women. For example, when Time magazine featured a cover with a picture of a woman whose face had been disfigured by the Taliban, The New York Times called it “war porn” (see the image below).

Furthermore, when an Iranian woman was sentenced to be stoned to death last summer, and when a fourteen year old Bangladeshi girl was recently lashed to death for being raped by her cousin, you could pretty much hear crickets from the MSM because those were pesky, politically incorrect stories that didn’t fit their multicultural narrative. (Not to mention, you probably won’t hear that much about the woman who was recently raped by Gaddafi’s thugs in Libya either.)

Second of all, liberals seem to have an overwhelming tendency to downplay Islamic abuses towards women (as well as towards gays) under the guise of multiculturalism. Don’t believe me? Well, then I suggest that you read the column by liberal Boston Globe columnist Susan Jacoby where she asks the question, “Why are liberals excusing religious abuses on grounds of cultural relativism?” To be specific, Jocoby makes some great points when she writes the following:

The latest example of the Left’s blind spot on this issue is the antagonism of so many liberal reviewers toward Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s recent memoir, Nomad. The Somali-born Hirsi Ali immigrated to the United States in 2006 after her close friend, the Dutch film director Theo Van Gogh, was murdered by a radical Islamist. Hirsi Ali still needs bodyguards because of frequent death threats.

She was educated as a child in Muslim schools, subjected to genital mutilation, and broke with her family when she refused to consent to an arranged marriage. She first settled in Holland, where she worked as a Somali-Dutch interpreter, and her convictions about violence in many (though not, she emphasizes, all) Muslim families are rooted in her work with immigrants as well as her own upbringing. Yet Nicholas D. Kristof, reviewing Nomad for The New York Times Book Review, writes that “I couldn’t help thinking that perhaps Hirsi Ali’s family is dysfunctional simply because its members never learned to bite their tongues and just say to one another: ‘I love you.’”

I was startled by this patronizing comment, because I admire Kristof for being one of the few male columnists who writes frequently about violence against women. Somehow, “I love you” isn’t the first thing that would come to mind if I were being held down by female relatives while my clitoris was maimed or if my father told me I had to marry a stranger.

Moreover, Jacoby really finished off her column with a bang when she shared the following anecdote:

An 80-year-old friend of mine — a woman of forceful intellect who used to teach Renaissance history — now lives in a Florida retirement community where many of the part-time staff are teenaged children of recent Afghan immigrants. When my friend saw one of her favorite young Afghan-American women — a high school senior — weeping in the dining room, she asked what was wrong. “Oh, madam professor,” the girl replied, “my father has arranged for me to meet my future husband. He is 40 years old, and the wedding will take place in six months. I wanted so much to go to college, and this will not be permitted.

My friend replied gently, “You know, Yasmin, you don’t have to marry anyone in this country because your parents say so. There are organizations to help girls like you think these things through. There are college scholarships. I can give you the names of people to talk to.” Another resident of this community sharply reproved my friend, saying, “We have no right to interfere with her culture, her religion, her family,”

Wrong. This type of “interference” — telling a troubled young woman that she has choices other than an arranged marriage — is exactly what a true liberal ought to be doing. The idea that someone should ignore the tears of a 17-year-old who says she is being pushed to give up her education is utterly perverse.

Now, if you still aren’t satisfied, here is another example of liberal moral relativism with regard to radical Islam’s abuses towards women (as well as gays). Da Tech Guy wrote an excellent column titled, “You can tell a lot about a person by what they bold when quoting”. First, Da Tech guy demonstrated what liberal blogger, Matthew Yglesias, thought was important enough to put in bold type when he quoted Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s writings in her New York Times column about the Egyptian revolution:

I’ll tell you why: because Islam is the new fascism. Just like Nazism started with Hitler’s vision, the Islamic vision is a caliphate – a society ruled by Sharia law – in which women who have sex before marriage are stoned to death, homosexuals are beaten, and apostates like me are killed. Sharia law is as inimical to liberal democracy as Nazism. Young Muslims need to be persuaded that the vision of the Prophet Mohammed is a bad one, and you aren’t going to get that in Islamic faith schools.

Next, Da Tech re-pastes the exact same quote from the exact same column, but puts in bold type what he finds to be important in Ms. Ali’s column:

I’ll tell you why: because Islam is the new fascism. Just like Nazism started with Hitler’s vision, the Islamic vision is a caliphate – a society ruled by Sharia law – in which women who have sex before marriage are stoned to death, homosexuals are beaten, and apostates like me are killed. Sharia law is as inimical to liberal democracy as Nazism. Young Muslims need to be persuaded that the vision of the Prophet Mohammed is a bad one, and you aren’t going to get that in Islamic faith schools.

Nifty little trick ain’t it? Furthermore, it’s pretty telling that Mr. Yglesias found Ms. Ali’s supposed “intolerance” to be the most bothersome part of that passage, whereas the rest of us find the whole stoning of women and beating of gays to the most troublesome part. (Oh, but best not to mention that politically incorrect line, because then you have just officially sinned on the liberal alter of multiculturalism.)

And finally, the ultimate examples of liberals downplaying the Islamic abuses of women are Naomi Wolf writing a column about how sexy the burka is, and Amanda Marcotte (she of “Godbag Christofascist” fame) writing that the traditional Western wedding is comparable in misogynist tradition to female genital mutilation. (I’m not kidding.)

Now, the third and final reason why Veena Malik’s smackdown of an Egyptian cleric is a seminal moment for feminism is because the liberal MSM tends not to air the voices of Muslim women who don’t parrot their talking points. For instance, during the Ground Zero Mosque brouhaha, moderate Mulsim, Neda Bolourchi (whose mother was killed in 9/11), wrote a column in The Washington Post titled, “Build Your Mosque Somewhere Else”–needless to say, she was never invited on any MSM outlets/talk-shows. Not to mention, the liberal MSM has hardly rolled out the welcome wagon for Ayaan Hirsi Ali either. Furthermore, when moderate Muslim, Raheel Raza, was speaking out against the Ground Zero Mosque and calling it “a slap in the face to all Americans”, only conservative talk show hosts, like Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity, would have her on as a guest.

So, when a Muslim woman from a Muslim country feels free to, you know, actually speak her mind without the threat of stoning when attacked by a real misogynist for her appearance, does she talk about how awful the “Godbag Christofascists” are…or how much better FGM is to endure than a wedding ceremony…or how sexy the burka is…or how racist America is for not wanting the Ground Zero Mosque? Well, not exactly. When Veena Malik gets really fired up at around 3:00 into the embed below, she let’s loose about how people are “killing in the name of Islam”, how the politicians in Pakistan are “committing murder, bribery and theft”, and how clerics are “raping children in the mosques in Pakistan”. Then, Ms. Malik really handed that cleric his arse when she told him that “Pakistan is infamous for many reasons other than Veena Malik”. In other words, she looked like she had absolutely no interest in donning a burka, but a lot of interest in her country not being overrun by true misogyny, corruption and violence.

In conclusion, I think that David Frum hit it out of the park in his excellent column titled, “Feminists need to admit that Western men are not the enemy”, when he wrote the following:

A generation ago, feminists could romanticize non-Western misogyny from a safe distance. In 1984, the Australian feminist Germaine Greer published a book, Sex and Destiny, denouncing birth control as a Western plot against Third World women. But since the 1980s, a great movement of populations has erased the distinction between the First World and the Third. Europe now receives more immigrants than does the United States. European cities are now crowded with hijabs and burkas. European police investigate honour killings. European hospitals confront female genital mutilations.

And these things all happen in North America, too, albeit to a lesser degree.

On this 100th International Women’s Day, the challenge for feminists has become both imperative and anguishing: Will they argue forever against American television sitcoms of the 1950s — or are they morally and intellectually capable of recognizing the dangers to women’s aspirations in the 21st century? Can they transcend their inherited ideology, and recognize that the best and only guarantee of women’s equality is Western liberal democratic capitalism? Will they accept critics of Third World misogyny — such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Irshad Manji — into the pantheon of feminism along with Mary Wollstonecraft, Susan B. Anthony and Simone de Beauvoir? Can they perceive that the people who would destroy Israel hate women even more than they hate Jews?

In short, can they accept that the irony of history has reoriented feminism into a fundamentally conservative movement? Or will their inherited ideological prejudices entrap them forever in a vanished world — dooming feminism to obsolescence and subjecting the dwindling rights of women to the aggressions of “multiculturalism”?

In other words, those nasty “Godbag Christofascists” aren’t the ones trying to suppress the rights of women all over the world; however, radical and fundamentalist Muslim clerics, like the one yelling at Veena Malik, are. Someone needed to finally get angry and say–nay, shout–what everyone (except the liberal MSM) has known to be true for a long time.

Thank you Veena Malik for having the courage and forbearance–even in the face of death threats–to shout out the truth.

Cross-posted from Parcbench, The Minority Report and The Green Room.

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  • Soldout

    A “seminal” moment?

    Very punny. ;)

  • Soldout

    A “seminal” moment?

    Very punny. ;)

    • Toastrider

      Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way women are treated like chattel in many Middle East nations, we’ll be waiting.

      • Anonymous

        LOL,
        Soldout – although he would probably call himself a Socialist, he supports forcing people to do things, so he is a Communist that supports theocracy.

      • Anonymous

        LOL,
        Soldout – although he would probably call himself a Socialist, he supports forcing people to do things, so he is a Communist that supports theocracy.

      • Anonymous

        LOL,
        Soldout – although he would probably call himself a Socialist, he supports forcing people to do things, so he is a Communist that supports theocracy.

      • Anonymous

        LOL,
        Soldout – although he would probably call himself a Socialist, he supports forcing people to do things, so he is a Communist that supports theocracy.

      • Anonymous

        LOL,
        Soldout – although he would probably call himself a Socialist, he supports forcing people to do things, so he is a Communist that supports theocracy.

      • Anonymous

        LOL,
        Soldout – although he would probably call himself a Socialist, he supports forcing people to do things, so he is a Communist that supports theocracy.

      • Soldout

        Seminal! Get it? :b

      • Soldout

        Seminal! Get it? :b

      • Soldout

        Seminal! Get it? :b

      • Soldout

        Seminal! Get it? :b

      • Soldout

        Seminal! Get it? :b

      • Soldout

        Seminal! Get it? :b

    • Toastrider

      Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way women are treated like chattel in many Middle East nations, we’ll be waiting.

    • Toastrider

      Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way women are treated like chattel in many Middle East nations, we’ll be waiting.

    • Anonymous

      Wow, what an epic moral equivalency failure… but thanks for validating the thread so succinctly.

      • Soldout

        Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way Rush treats women like chattel….

        • Anonymous

          Because using a derrogatory descriptor is equivalent to stoning, rape and mutilation?

          Wow you really are an idiot.

          • Anonymous

            Dang, you beat me to it!

          • Anonymous

            Dang, you beat me to it!

          • Anonymous

            Dang, you beat me to it!

          • Anonymous

            Dang, you beat me to it!

          • Anonymous

            Dang, you beat me to it!

          • Anonymous

            Dang, you beat me to it!

          • Anonymous

            Dang, you beat me to it!

        • Anonymous

          Because using a derrogatory descriptor is equivalent to stoning, rape and mutilation?

          Wow you really are an idiot.

        • Anonymous

          Because using a derrogatory descriptor is equivalent to stoning, rape and mutilation?

          Wow you really are an idiot.

        • Anonymous

          Because using a derrogatory descriptor is equivalent to stoning, rape and mutilation?

          Wow you really are an idiot.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO! He’s treating women like “chattle” by calling out a specific group of bitter, man-hating harpies? Oh, that is too rich!
          Okay, here you go troll: Rush, you shouldn’t insinuate that America’s so-called feminists are nazis unless they actually are socialists who hate Jews.
          Your turn, troll. Denounce the systematic, intrinsic, violent misogyny that is a fundemental tenet of Islam.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO! He’s treating women like “chattle” by calling out a specific group of bitter, man-hating harpies? Oh, that is too rich!
          Okay, here you go troll: Rush, you shouldn’t insinuate that America’s so-called feminists are nazis unless they actually are socialists who hate Jews.
          Your turn, troll. Denounce the systematic, intrinsic, violent misogyny that is a fundemental tenet of Islam.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO! He’s treating women like “chattle” by calling out a specific group of bitter, man-hating harpies? Oh, that is too rich!
          Okay, here you go troll: Rush, you shouldn’t insinuate that America’s so-called feminists are nazis unless they actually are socialists who hate Jews.
          Your turn, troll. Denounce the systematic, intrinsic, violent misogyny that is a fundemental tenet of Islam.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO! He’s treating women like “chattle” by calling out a specific group of bitter, man-hating harpies? Oh, that is too rich!
          Okay, here you go troll: Rush, you shouldn’t insinuate that America’s so-called feminists are nazis unless they actually are socialists who hate Jews.
          Your turn, troll. Denounce the systematic, intrinsic, violent misogyny that is a fundemental tenet of Islam.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO! He’s treating women like “chattle” by calling out a specific group of bitter, man-hating harpies? Oh, that is too rich!
          Okay, here you go troll: Rush, you shouldn’t insinuate that America’s so-called feminists are nazis unless they actually are socialists who hate Jews.
          Your turn, troll. Denounce the systematic, intrinsic, violent misogyny that is a fundemental tenet of Islam.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO! He’s treating women like “chattle” by calling out a specific group of bitter, man-hating harpies? Oh, that is too rich!
          Okay, here you go troll: Rush, you shouldn’t insinuate that America’s so-called feminists are nazis unless they actually are socialists who hate Jews.
          Your turn, troll. Denounce the systematic, intrinsic, violent misogyny that is a fundemental tenet of Islam.

        • Anonymous

          LMAO! He’s treating women like “chattle” by calling out a specific group of bitter, man-hating harpies? Oh, that is too rich!
          Okay, here you go troll: Rush, you shouldn’t insinuate that America’s so-called feminists are nazis unless they actually are socialists who hate Jews.
          Your turn, troll. Denounce the systematic, intrinsic, violent misogyny that is a fundemental tenet of Islam.

      • Soldout

        Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way Rush treats women like chattel….

      • Soldout

        Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way Rush treats women like chattel….

      • Soldout

        Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way Rush treats women like chattel….

      • Soldout

        Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way Rush treats women like chattel….

      • Soldout

        Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way Rush treats women like chattel….

      • Soldout

        Anytime you want to grow some balls and denounce the way Rush treats women like chattel….

    • Anonymous

      Wow, what an epic moral equivalency failure… but thanks for validating the thread so succinctly.

    • Anonymous

      Wow, what an epic moral equivalency failure… but thanks for validating the thread so succinctly.

    • Anonymous

      Wow, what an epic moral equivalency failure… but thanks for validating the thread so succinctly.

    • Anonymous

      Wow, what an epic moral equivalency failure… but thanks for validating the thread so succinctly.

    • Anonymous

      Indeed. Criticizing a small subset of women for their hateful words is no different than throwing acid in their faces or stoning them to death for being disobedient.

      Perhaps you should visit the middle east some time. Be sure to bring some woman you care about with you.

    • Anonymous

      Indeed. Criticizing a small subset of women for their hateful words is no different than throwing acid in their faces or stoning them to death for being disobedient.

      Perhaps you should visit the middle east some time. Be sure to bring some woman you care about with you.

    • Anonymous

      Indeed. Criticizing a small subset of women for their hateful words is no different than throwing acid in their faces or stoning them to death for being disobedient.

      Perhaps you should visit the middle east some time. Be sure to bring some woman you care about with you.

    • Anonymous

      Indeed. Criticizing a small subset of women for their hateful words is no different than throwing acid in their faces or stoning them to death for being disobedient.

      Perhaps you should visit the middle east some time. Be sure to bring some woman you care about with you.

    • Anonymous

      Indeed. Criticizing a small subset of women for their hateful words is no different than throwing acid in their faces or stoning them to death for being disobedient.

      Perhaps you should visit the middle east some time. Be sure to bring some woman you care about with you.

    • Anonymous

      Indeed. Criticizing a small subset of women for their hateful words is no different than throwing acid in their faces or stoning them to death for being disobedient.

      Perhaps you should visit the middle east some time. Be sure to bring some woman you care about with you.

  • Soldout

    A “seminal” moment?

    Very punny. ;)

    • Anonymous

      “Double post deleted”
      Why start now? – you say the exact same lines over and over.

    • Anonymous

      “Double post deleted”
      Why start now? – you say the exact same lines over and over.

    • Anonymous

      “Double post deleted”
      Why start now? – you say the exact same lines over and over.

  • Soldout

    A “seminal” moment?

    Very punny. ;)

  • Soldout

    A “seminal” moment?

    Very punny. ;)

  • Soldout

    A “seminal” moment?

    Very punny. ;)

  • Soldout

    A “seminal” moment?

    Very punny. ;)

  • Anonymous

    OUTSTANDING article, Mrs. Fleetwood! Very educational, heck it was downright inspirational. Kudos to you, ma’am.

    • http://twitter.com/Susannah72 Susannah Fleetwood

      Thanks so much Good_Ol_Boy–I appreciate you! Thanks again for reading, and for the kind words.

      Take care. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

    • http://twitter.com/Susannah72 Susannah Fleetwood

      Thanks so much Good_Ol_Boy–I appreciate you! Thanks again for reading, and for the kind words.

      Take care. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

    • http://twitter.com/Susannah72 Susannah Fleetwood

      Thanks so much Good_Ol_Boy–I appreciate you! Thanks again for reading, and for the kind words.

      Take care. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

    • http://twitter.com/Susannah72 Susannah Fleetwood

      Thanks so much Good_Ol_Boy–I appreciate you! Thanks again for reading, and for the kind words.

      Take care. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

    • http://twitter.com/Susannah72 Susannah Fleetwood

      Thanks so much Good_Ol_Boy–I appreciate you! Thanks again for reading, and for the kind words.

      Take care. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

  • Anonymous

    OUTSTANDING article, Mrs. Fleetwood! Very educational, heck it was downright inspirational. Kudos to you, ma’am.

  • Anonymous

    OUTSTANDING article, Mrs. Fleetwood! Very educational, heck it was downright inspirational. Kudos to you, ma’am.

  • Anonymous

    OUTSTANDING article, Mrs. Fleetwood! Very educational, heck it was downright inspirational. Kudos to you, ma’am.

  • Anonymous

    OUTSTANDING article, Mrs. Fleetwood! Very educational, heck it was downright inspirational. Kudos to you, ma’am.

  • D-Vega

    Very good post. This woman took that mullahflower down.

    One exception I would take is that I have seen this story on reddit for a couple of weeks now.

    Goldberg and Allahpundit were not the people who broke this story on blogs in the states. It was liberal bloggers.

    Thanks.

    • http://twitter.com/Susannah72 Susannah Fleetwood

      Thanks for the kind words D-Vega. And, I stand corrected if this was on some liberal blogs first.

      Take care. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

    • http://twitter.com/Susannah72 Susannah Fleetwood

      Thanks for the kind words D-Vega. And, I stand corrected if this was on some liberal blogs first.

      Take care. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

      • D-Vega

        Thank you, Ms. Fleetwood. Keep up the good work.

      • D-Vega

        Thank you, Ms. Fleetwood. Keep up the good work.

  • Anonymous

    Shame this “religion” will quite probably have a follower try to kill this woman by the end of the year.

  • Anonymous

    Shame this “religion” will quite probably have a follower try to kill this woman by the end of the year.

  • Martin Hale

    I’m going to wait a fortnight or two before declaring Ms. Malik’s upbraiding of the imam a seminal moment. I want to see if she survives that long.

  • Martin Hale

    I’m going to wait a fortnight or two before declaring Ms. Malik’s upbraiding of the imam a seminal moment. I want to see if she survives that long.

  • Martin Hale

    I’m going to wait a fortnight or two before declaring Ms. Malik’s upbraiding of the imam a seminal moment. I want to see if she survives that long.

  • Martin Hale

    I’m going to wait a fortnight or two before declaring Ms. Malik’s upbraiding of the imam a seminal moment. I want to see if she survives that long.

  • Martin Hale

    I’m going to wait a fortnight or two before declaring Ms. Malik’s upbraiding of the imam a seminal moment. I want to see if she survives that long.

  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    The thing is, she probably is immoral, particularly by the standards of Islam. That doesn’t mean Islam is right, either, just that she’s not necessarily heroic in defending her lifestyle and actions.

  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    The thing is, she probably is immoral, particularly by the standards of Islam. That doesn’t mean Islam is right, either, just that she’s not necessarily heroic in defending her lifestyle and actions.

    • Anonymous

      Oh no you didn’t!!

      The POINT is she doesn’t NEED to justify her life to some stinky bearded, misogynist, child raping clump of smegma.

      And yes she IS heroic, because those same stinky bearded,misogynist, child raping clump of smegma would love to torture and kill her for her “disobedience.”

  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    The thing is, she probably is immoral, particularly by the standards of Islam. That doesn’t mean Islam is right, either, just that she’s not necessarily heroic in defending her lifestyle and actions.

  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    The thing is, she probably is immoral, particularly by the standards of Islam. That doesn’t mean Islam is right, either, just that she’s not necessarily heroic in defending her lifestyle and actions.

  • Anonymous

    I heard her reference the “good works” that she did repeatedly, so I am not sure why she enters them into a moral ledger so frequently (maybe there are improprieties, who knows?)… but I did so thoroughly enjoy her response, even if I did have to read it through subtitles.

    Now. Have there been so-called “moderates” like her this vocal all along that haven’t been given a “voice on air” or is it that the so-called moderates are finally standing up to the more controlling elements within their religion?

  • Anonymous

    I heard her reference the “good works” that she did repeatedly, so I am not sure why she enters them into a moral ledger so frequently (maybe there are improprieties, who knows?)… but I did so thoroughly enjoy her response, even if I did have to read it through subtitles.

    Now. Have there been so-called “moderates” like her this vocal all along that haven’t been given a “voice on air” or is it that the so-called moderates are finally standing up to the more controlling elements within their religion?

    • Anonymous

      One of the “pillars of Islam” is doing good works. I think she’s holding it out as a more virtuous accomplishment than that of beating other Muslims into submission.

  • Anonymous

    I heard her reference the “good works” that she did repeatedly, so I am not sure why she enters them into a moral ledger so frequently (maybe there are improprieties, who knows?)… but I did so thoroughly enjoy her response, even if I did have to read it through subtitles.

    Now. Have there been so-called “moderates” like her this vocal all along that haven’t been given a “voice on air” or is it that the so-called moderates are finally standing up to the more controlling elements within their religion?

  • Anonymous

    I heard her reference the “good works” that she did repeatedly, so I am not sure why she enters them into a moral ledger so frequently (maybe there are improprieties, who knows?)… but I did so thoroughly enjoy her response, even if I did have to read it through subtitles.

    Now. Have there been so-called “moderates” like her this vocal all along that haven’t been given a “voice on air” or is it that the so-called moderates are finally standing up to the more controlling elements within their religion?

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  • Anonymous

    This only further displays the doublethink the Left regularly engages in. For all their talk of civil liberties, they are perfectly happy with the most depraved acts if those acts are enshrined in the hallowed traditions of a non-Western culture or a non-Christian religion.

    Slavery? They’re OK with it. Rape? Not really a problem. It was probably her fault, anyway. Murder? No worries, it’s a cultural thing. Torture? It’s alright if it’s someone brown doing it. Mutilation? See Rape. White kid praying in school? HATE CRIME! HATE CRIME! HATE CRIME! Someone call the ACLU!

    Modern liberals are the worst kind of hypocritical scum.

    • D-Vega

      Who’s okay with that?

      Get over yourself, sab. Try to have a worthy point instead of just spouting off like an imbecile.

      Liberals are NOT okay with any of that, we just don’t smear entire religions.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • StanW

        Sorry Vega, but your indignation is misplaced as usual.

        Liberal routinely defend and protect Islam, while at the same time slamming Conservatives for their treatment of women. And you always get refreshing quiet when the subject of Honor Killings or rape come up in relationship to Islam.

        So spare us the lectures. You have chosen your side, now you have to live with your choice.

      • Anonymous

        See above Soldout equates rape, mutilation stoning, etc. With Rush Limbaugh’s use of the term feminazi

        You leftiststs all oppose this, but…

        • D-Vega

          As far as I saw, he didn’t equate it at all.

          • Anonymous

            Ok, since you’re feeling obtuse today, I’ll spell it out for you. Instead of simply condemning the mysoginistic evils inherent in Sharia law Soldout decided to deflect blame with- in his mind- an equal injustice perpetrated by Rush thus excusing or even more aptly justifying Muslim bad behavior by by pointing to other bad behavior.

          • D-Vega

            You can take up his statement with him.

            But what I saw was him taking exception to the mention of this being good for feminisism, when Limbaugh compares feminists to Nazis.

            He didn’t equate that to rape, at least as far as I saw.

          • StanW

            Limbaugh does NOT compare feminists to nazis, Vega. That is a long discreditied lie.

            Limbaugh himself said that there were MAYBE a dozen Femi-Nazis in the country, and they were narrowly defined as those feminists that promote, celebrate, and encourage abortion over live births.

            As always, you are incapable of telling the truth about ANYTHING!

          • StanW

            Limbaugh does NOT compare feminists to nazis, Vega. That is a long discreditied lie.

            Limbaugh himself said that there were MAYBE a dozen Femi-Nazis in the country, and they were narrowly defined as those feminists that promote, celebrate, and encourage abortion over live births.

            As always, you are incapable of telling the truth about ANYTHING!

          • StanW

            Limbaugh does NOT compare feminists to nazis, Vega. That is a long discreditied lie.

            Limbaugh himself said that there were MAYBE a dozen Femi-Nazis in the country, and they were narrowly defined as those feminists that promote, celebrate, and encourage abortion over live births.

            As always, you are incapable of telling the truth about ANYTHING!

          • StanW

            Limbaugh does NOT compare feminists to nazis, Vega. That is a long discreditied lie.

            Limbaugh himself said that there were MAYBE a dozen Femi-Nazis in the country, and they were narrowly defined as those feminists that promote, celebrate, and encourage abortion over live births.

            As always, you are incapable of telling the truth about ANYTHING!

          • StanW

            Limbaugh does NOT compare feminists to nazis, Vega. That is a long discreditied lie.

            Limbaugh himself said that there were MAYBE a dozen Femi-Nazis in the country, and they were narrowly defined as those feminists that promote, celebrate, and encourage abortion over live births.

            As always, you are incapable of telling the truth about ANYTHING!

          • StanW

            Limbaugh does NOT compare feminists to nazis, Vega. That is a long discreditied lie.

            Limbaugh himself said that there were MAYBE a dozen Femi-Nazis in the country, and they were narrowly defined as those feminists that promote, celebrate, and encourage abortion over live births.

            As always, you are incapable of telling the truth about ANYTHING!

          • D-Vega

            You can take up his statement with him.

            But what I saw was him taking exception to the mention of this being good for feminisism, when Limbaugh compares feminists to Nazis.

            He didn’t equate that to rape, at least as far as I saw.

          • D-Vega

            You can take up his statement with him.

            But what I saw was him taking exception to the mention of this being good for feminisism, when Limbaugh compares feminists to Nazis.

            He didn’t equate that to rape, at least as far as I saw.

          • D-Vega

            That’s not deflecting blame.

          • D-Vega

            That’s not deflecting blame.

          • D-Vega

            That’s not deflecting blame.

          • Anonymous

            Ok, since you’re feeling obtuse today, I’ll spell it out for you. Instead of simply condemning the mysoginistic evils inherent in Sharia law Soldout decided to deflect blame with- in his mind- an equal injustice perpetrated by Rush thus excusing or even more aptly justifying Muslim bad behavior by by pointing to other bad behavior.

          • Anonymous

            Ok, since you’re feeling obtuse today, I’ll spell it out for you. Instead of simply condemning the mysoginistic evils inherent in Sharia law Soldout decided to deflect blame with- in his mind- an equal injustice perpetrated by Rush thus excusing or even more aptly justifying Muslim bad behavior by by pointing to other bad behavior.

          • Anonymous

            Ok, since you’re feeling obtuse today, I’ll spell it out for you. Instead of simply condemning the mysoginistic evils inherent in Sharia law Soldout decided to deflect blame with- in his mind- an equal injustice perpetrated by Rush thus excusing or even more aptly justifying Muslim bad behavior by by pointing to other bad behavior.

          • Anonymous

            Ok, since you’re feeling obtuse today, I’ll spell it out for you. Instead of simply condemning the mysoginistic evils inherent in Sharia law Soldout decided to deflect blame with- in his mind- an equal injustice perpetrated by Rush thus excusing or even more aptly justifying Muslim bad behavior by by pointing to other bad behavior.

          • Anonymous

            Ok, since you’re feeling obtuse today, I’ll spell it out for you. Instead of simply condemning the mysoginistic evils inherent in Sharia law Soldout decided to deflect blame with- in his mind- an equal injustice perpetrated by Rush thus excusing or even more aptly justifying Muslim bad behavior by by pointing to other bad behavior.

          • Anonymous

            Ok, since you’re feeling obtuse today, I’ll spell it out for you. Instead of simply condemning the mysoginistic evils inherent in Sharia law Soldout decided to deflect blame with- in his mind- an equal injustice perpetrated by Rush thus excusing or even more aptly justifying Muslim bad behavior by by pointing to other bad behavior.

      • Anonymous

        See above Soldout equates rape, mutilation stoning, etc. With Rush Limbaugh’s use of the term feminazi

        You leftiststs all oppose this, but…

      • Anonymous

        See above Soldout equates rape, mutilation stoning, etc. With Rush Limbaugh’s use of the term feminazi

        You leftiststs all oppose this, but…

      • Anonymous

        When you fail to condemn it and then attack those who do actually criticize these actions then yes it comes across as support.

        • D-Vega

          Fail to condemn it? Condemn what? Rape? Of course I condemn rape.

          Who is pro-rape?

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

          • D-Vega

            That’s total bull. I am sure all you watch are left-wing pundits. But as examples Bill Maher and Rachel Maddow has both spoken out extensively.

            Funny how conservatives are so self-righteous about what liberals are saying or not saying, yet they never really leave their echo chambers of right-wing media (who is of course telling them what liberals are saying and not saying).

          • D-Vega

            That’s total bull. I am sure all you watch are left-wing pundits. But as examples Bill Maher and Rachel Maddow has both spoken out extensively.

            Funny how conservatives are so self-righteous about what liberals are saying or not saying, yet they never really leave their echo chambers of right-wing media (who is of course telling them what liberals are saying and not saying).

          • Anonymous

            You probably think the media is predominately right-biased don’t you?

          • Anonymous

            You probably think the media is predominately right-biased don’t you?

          • D-Vega

            That’s total bull. I am sure all you watch are left-wing pundits. But as examples Bill Maher and Rachel Maddow has both spoken out extensively.

            Funny how conservatives are so self-righteous about what liberals are saying or not saying, yet they never really leave their echo chambers of right-wing media (who is of course telling them what liberals are saying and not saying).

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

          • Anonymous

            You’ll notice that the left in general refuses to condemn these actions when carried out by muslims (surely you own a tv? I know you have a computer so you must be aware of this)

            And when conservatives do condemn it you all fly in to a rage and call us bigots for picking on poor ol’ islam who never bothered anyone.

      • Anonymous

        When you fail to condemn it and then attack those who do actually criticize these actions then yes it comes across as support.

      • Anonymous

        When you fail to condemn it and then attack those who do actually criticize these actions then yes it comes across as support.

      • Anonymous

        When you fail to condemn it and then attack those who do actually criticize these actions then yes it comes across as support.

      • Anonymous

        When you fail to condemn it and then attack those who do actually criticize these actions then yes it comes across as support.

      • Anonymous

        When you fail to condemn it and then attack those who do actually criticize these actions then yes it comes across as support.

      • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

        I agree that the left isn’t okay with that stuff, but it certainly comes across as if you are because you’re 100 times more hostile toward, mocking of, and hateful in regard to Christianity than you are Islam. You leap to the defense of Muslims and find every opportunity to attack Christians.

        Hence, the perception, which the left has done everything it can to help create.

        • D-Vega

          Christianity permeates our lives every day in every way, CT. Most people in the states are Christian. It’s the vast majority of people.

          It’s different when you are critical of a minority religion. This would apply to Jewish Americans as well.

          But the type of violent behavior being discussed here totally different. In this country you would be prosecuted as a criminal. No one approves of it.

  • Anonymous

    This only further displays the doublethink the Left regularly engages in. For all their talk of civil liberties, they are perfectly happy with the most depraved acts if those acts are enshrined in the hallowed traditions of a non-Western culture or a non-Christian religion.

    Slavery? They’re OK with it. Rape? Not really a problem. It was probably her fault, anyway. Murder? No worries, it’s a cultural thing. Torture? It’s alright if it’s someone brown doing it. Mutilation? See Rape. White kid praying in school? HATE CRIME! HATE CRIME! HATE CRIME! Someone call the ACLU!

    Modern liberals are the worst kind of hypocritical scum.

  • Anonymous

    Feminism on a right wing site. Are you mad, honey? If you’re not a Stepford Wife, you will not go far in this party. And if you’re a lesbian, forget it. These folks are still trying to resurrect the abortion debate, the most anti-feminist issue around.

    • Anonymous

      The anti-abortion position is the human rights position- fighting for the most fundamental right of all…the right to live.

    • Anonymous

      The anti-abortion position is the human rights position- fighting for the most fundamental right of all…the right to live.

  • Anonymous

    Feminism on a right wing site. Are you mad, honey? If you’re not a Stepford Wife, you will not go far in this party. And if you’re a lesbian, forget it. These folks are still trying to resurrect the abortion debate, the most anti-feminist issue around.

  • Anonymous

    Feminism on a right wing site. Are you mad, honey? If you’re not a Stepford Wife, you will not go far in this party. And if you’re a lesbian, forget it. These folks are still trying to resurrect the abortion debate, the most anti-feminist issue around.

  • Anonymous

    Feminism on a right wing site. Are you mad, honey? If you’re not a Stepford Wife, you will not go far in this party. And if you’re a lesbian, forget it. These folks are still trying to resurrect the abortion debate, the most anti-feminist issue around.

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