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Is The State Bar of Arizona Targeting Conservatives For Blogging And Fighting Illegal Immigration?
Written By : John Hawkins

Politically motivated prosecutions are always an ugly business because politics is not supposed to stretch into the courtroom. Sadly, that appears to be news to the very liberal State Bar of Arizona. On Monday, the State Bar of Arizona began its prosecution of former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas and two of his deputies, including Right Wing News blogger Rachel Alexander.

As County Attorney, Thomas represented Sheriff Joe Arpaio and he worked with Arizona’s conservative legislature, notably Senator Russell Pearce, sponsor of Arizona’s SB 1070, to get tough laws against illegal immigration passed. In 2006, four bills were referred to the ballot and passed into law against illegal immigration, passing with over 70% margins. One of them, Prop. 100, prohibited bail for illegal immigrants charged with felonies. It passed with 78% of the vote. After passage, Thomas began hearing from prosecutors in the office that judges were ignoring Prop. 100 and not enforcing it. Most of the Superior Court judges are extremely liberal, having been appointed by former Democrat Governor Janet Napolitano. Thomas resorted to legal action to get the Superior Court to enforce Prop. 100. He had to appeal to the Arizona Supreme Court to get the lower courts to enforce Prop. 100.

Thomas came up with a unique way to prosecute illegal immigrants with a felony, instead of just letting them go with a slap on the wrist. He used a felony smuggling statute to prosecute them, describing them as “smuggling themselves.” With a felony conviction, they would be required to serve time and would not be able to return to the U.S. He even distributed money — which was seized from racketeering funds — to programs for youth run by the Boy Scouts and churches. By law, that money is to be distributed to organizations that keep youth away from crime and drugs. Thomas ensured that it was no longer only distributed to left wing politically correct organizations. Due to the proactive efforts of Thomas, along with Joe Arpaio and Senator Russell Pearce, illegal immigration has greatly decreased in Arizona. The population of illegal immigrants dropped by one-third over two years.

Thomas ran for re-election in 2008 on a platform of stamping out public corruption with Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Together they decided to take on powerful politicians who had gotten away with corrupt acts for years. Don Stapley, the Chairman of the County Supervisors, raised thousands of dollars to run for president of the National Association of Counties, even though he did not have an opponent. He then spent that money on personal luxury items. Stapley allegedly spent $6000 of these funds at Bang and Olufsen electronics, along with $1300 for hair implants, $400 for candleholders and $10,000 for furniture for his home. He also spent these funds, solicited as campaign money, to buy tickets to Broadway plays and movie theatres. He bought flowers, paid the grocery store and department stores, paid for massages – and paid for family trips to Sundance, to Utah to ski, a trip for his son and friends to Florida and a three-week vacation in Hawaii for his entire family at a beach house costing approximately $11,000.

Thomas brought charges against Stapley and a jury indicted him. Stapley was also indicted for failing to disclose his real estate dealings on financial statements. His business partner, Conley Wolfswinkel, is a convicted felon. Thomas also brought charges against Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox. She was indicted for voting on giving money to Chicanos por la Causa while failing to disclose she had a sweetheart loan deal from them. Wilcox, who drives a 2006 Corvette, gave herself prime real estate territory at Phoenix’s Sky Harbor Airport through the “minority-owned business” affirmative action program.

What happened to those indictments? They were all dismissed. Most of the prosecutions were conveniently transferred to now retired judges — Judge Kenneth Fields and Judge Gary Donahoe, who threw them all out. Donahoe was subsequently forced to resign in disgrace in June of this year. Realizing he could not get anywhere against the corruption in Superior Court, Thomas and Sheriff Arpaio filed a racketeering lawsuit against the supervisors, judges and their legal counsel. The supervisors refused to authorize any outside counsel to assist Thomas with it. Vastly understaffed, Thomas decided to turn the investigation over to the Department of Justice and withdrew the suit. As a result, the bar is now attempting to disbar Thomas, one of his prosecutors, and suspend Rachel Alexander’s license.

Thomas’s chief prosecutor, Lisa Aubuchon, who did the substantive work on most of the pleadings, is a lifelong experienced government prosecutor. The Bar is also prosecuting Rachel Alexander, whose only role was taking over the racketeering case briefly and then dropping it. Her Supervisor Peter Spaw had a much larger role in the racketeering case than Alexander did. Yet Spaw has not been charged by the Bar. Given the circumstances, it’s hard to come to any conclusion other than Rachel Alexander is being selectively prosecuted because she’s a conservative political columnist and blogger who’s well known in her area for her political activism.

Many well-respected attorneys who attempted to represent Thomas and Aubuchon were shut out by the County Supervisors. They were so outraged they took out a full-page ad in the Arizona State Bar magazine letting all attorneys in the state know what the Bar was doing. The letter states that five experts found the bar complaints to be without merit. Those experts include a former Arizona State Bar president, a former Arizona Supreme Court Chief Justice, and a former Arizona Attorney General. When former Bar President Ernie Calderon, a Democrat, attempted to represent Thomas last year, he was punished by the Bar by having his position as Arizona’s representative to the ABA House of Delegates revoked.

Maybe it’s just me, but when the guy who helped draft the model ABA rules on ethics says your ethics charges are without merit, it should get people’s attention. Moreover, in the words of our President, let’s be clear about what’s going on here. If Thomas, Aubuchon, and Alexander were liberal, if they’d gone along to get along, or if they’d had no success in what they were doing, it’s extremely unlikely that they’d be facing any charges today. The truth of the matter is that these conservatives, including Rachel Alexander, appear to be on trial because they helped expose corruption in Arizona and effectively fought against illegal immigration, which made the liberals who control the state bar angry.

In fact, this unjust prosecution is so over-the-top that even the Maricopa County Republican Party’s Executive Guidance Committee has taken the unusual step of issuing a resolution denouncing it.

WHEREAS, former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas and Sheriff Joe Arpaio have been leaders in the fight to crack down on illegal immigration, taking on activist judges who tried to thwart Proposition 100 (no bail for illegal immigrants who commit serious crimes), and investigating corruption at the county level;

WHEREAS, in a politically motivated move due to its opposition to Arpaio’s and Thomas’s policies, the State Bar of Arizona, which is under the control of liberal attorneys and criminal defense attorneys, is attempting to take the license to practice law from Andrew Thomas, one of his former prosecutors Lisa Aubuchon, and discipline a third former prosecutor, Rachel Alexander;

WHEREAS, even a columnist for the liberal Arizona Republic, Robert Robb, has denounced the Bar’s investigation, writing about the Bar’s investigation, “Many of the alleged ethical violations are grounded in the claim that Thomas acted in bad faith for political retaliation. I doubt the evidence will clearly establish that.”

WHEREAS, the State Bar of Arizona has a history of refusing to take action against those who agree with their political philosophy;

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the Maricopa County Republican Executive Guidance Committee that it demand the State Bar drop the baseless and politically motivated investigation into Andrew Thomas, Lisa Aubuchon and Rachel Alexander.

FURTHER, we, the members of the Maricopa County Republican Executive Guidance Committee, commend Andrew Thomas for his efforts as County Attorney combating illegal immigration and corruption;

ADDITIONALLY, we, the members of the Maricopa County Republican Executive Guidance Committee, demand that the State Bar refrain from any future politically motivated investigations of attorneys due to its inherent left wing bias.

Rob Haney, the Chairman of the Republican Party in Maricopa County, also added,

“Andy was trying to do the right thing by rooting out corruption, and the state Bar – typical of state and national Bars of lawyers – are very left-wing…A lot of the conservative lawyers are just so fed up with the Bar associations that they no longer care to be a part of them.”

This is nothing but a trumped-up, meritless witch hunt and it is particularly galling to see Rachel Alexander dragged into it since she was a minor player in the legal proceedings. Unfortunately, her blogging has long since made her a juicy political target in Maricopa County. In other words, Rachel Alexander’s inclusion despite her tangential involvement in the issue appears to be little more than a shot across the bow of conservative bloggers. The message is, “If you’re a conservative and stick your head up high to let people know where you stand politically, no matter how far we have to reach, we’ll find a way to drag you through the mud.”

Blogging while conservative is not a crime. Fighting against illegal immigration and corruption is not a crime. However, misusing the justice system for purely political purposes is absolutely despicable and the more sunlight that shines in on this issue in Arizona, the more the cockroaches who are persecuting conservatives will start to scatter.

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  • Anonymous

    Hey, remember when “speaking truth to power” was a good thing? And infighting between law enforcement and legal bodies within a state? Totally healthy. Especially when one side is actively defending foreign criminals.

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  • Anonymous

    Hope&Change! Chicago style.

  • Kevin

    baoxian: Yes, those were the days, eh?  I remember with fondness when dissent was the highest form of patriotism and the ant-war crowd shouted from almost every rooftop in the land about the evils of war and killing innocents in the name of oil and money.  Ahh, the good ol’ days…  

    • Anonymous

      You mean when they were called traitors and were told they should leave the country by Conservatives?  Dont get carried away with yourself.

      • http://profiles.google.com/gov.squid Governor Squid

        Were these Conservative in positions of power?  Could they bring charges or force deportations?  Did they threaten the legal credentials of their opponents?

        You can point to the ugly words of bygone years, but they don’t begin to measure up to the threats and physical actions of your fellow travelers.

        “We’re even worse than you fascist ReThuglicans!” is hardly a point of pride.

        • Anonymous

          Ah yes the typical response from a Conservative, your side was worse so what we did was okay, pathetic!!

          • Anonymous

            Project much?  Isn’t that exactly what you did in your reply to Kevin?

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            It is worse asshat! No conservative in a position of power was saying these and threatening anyone. If you didn’t have double standards What_a_tard, you’d have no standards at all.

          • Kevin

            Guess the irony is lost on you.  Doesn’t surprise me, as I’m sure you’re just another Obama drone.  Hope and change my ass; when it’s your side doing it, it’s patriotic.  When it’s our side, it’s racist and revolting.  It’s not about some arbitrary scale that must be zeroed out in order to keep the universe from imploding, you clueless Lefty pustule-fror-brains.  It’s about recognizing that your side can give it but can’t take it (which is ironic ’cause your side loves to take without giving). 

          • Kevin

            Guess the irony is lost on you.  Doesn’t surprise me, as I’m sure you’re just another Obama drone.  Hope and change my ass; when it’s your side doing it, it’s patriotic.  When it’s our side, it’s racist and revolting.  It’s not about some arbitrary scale that must be zeroed out in order to keep the universe from imploding, you clueless Lefty pustule-fror-brains.  It’s about recognizing that your side can give it but can’t take it (which is ironic ’cause your side loves to take without giving). 

          • Kevin

            Guess the irony is lost on you.  Doesn’t surprise me, as I’m sure you’re just another Obama drone.  Hope and change my ass; when it’s your side doing it, it’s patriotic.  When it’s our side, it’s racist and revolting.  It’s not about some arbitrary scale that must be zeroed out in order to keep the universe from imploding, you clueless Lefty pustule-fror-brains.  It’s about recognizing that your side can give it but can’t take it (which is ironic ’cause your side loves to take without giving). 

          • JoeBrit

            Of you are a typical Republican, you are a poor man who defends the rich, who take without giving nothing, relatively speaking. When Buffet complains that his secretary pays a higher rate than him, it is the opposite: a rich man who is defending the poor.

            Buffet I gather is no Republican, and certainly not a poor fool.

          • Kevin

            Guess the irony is lost on you.  Doesn’t surprise me, as I’m sure you’re just another Obama drone.  Hope and change my ass; when it’s your side doing it, it’s patriotic.  When it’s our side, it’s racist and revolting.  It’s not about some arbitrary scale that must be zeroed out in order to keep the universe from imploding, you clueless Lefty pustule-fror-brains.  It’s about recognizing that your side can give it but can’t take it (which is ironic ’cause your side loves to take without giving). 

      • Anonymous

        Que?
        Seems to me the libs were all leaving the country on their own, you know; after Mr. Bush was re-elected.

      • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

        Yeah, that happened.  But then, conservatives didn’t stand up and yell about how dissent is the highest form of patriotism before doing so.  Hypocrisy, you know.

  • Anonymous

    A legal system that works for a political party rather than the written law is a hallmark of fascism. 

  • Anonymous

    A legal system that works for a political party rather than the written law is a hallmark of fascism. 

  • JoeBrit

    And then there’s the Hispanic vote. Keep up the pressure.

    • Anonymous

      Hispanics favor crime and gangster government? That’s awfully racist of you.

      • JoeBrit

        Cut the nonsense. Hispanophobia in the right wing is well-known, and its key concept is “illegal immigration.” Hispanic-Americans are listening to you and just what you’re advocating for the families of their bretherend.

        And whenever I hear a right wing Republican call someone else racist, I chuckle. Since Nixon and Reagan, the white man’s party would be nothing without it.

        • Anonymous

          We will just immigrate ourselves into you house and upon your property then we will be able to view first hand how you would deal with “Illegal Immigration”.

          Have a few of your own health care dollars at the ready for us also.

          • JoeBrit

            Thanks Spikey, but this is for Hale:

            I an truly flattered at your JoeBrit obsession and sophisticated ad hominems you thought you provided that actually, actually entailed timely research. My goodness if only I thought that you deserved the same effort. Sorry about that, but I don’t care what you are or who you are.

            Lenawee County is a Republican county by and large and has only a few percentage of Black population. It does have a lot of minorities however especially Hispanic people, many of whom came to the area as farmworkers and stayed.

            But when I question your intellect, this is a good example. Do you really believe that Lenawee citizens are bigots because it has a low Black population. A bright man would not engage in such silliness.

          • Kevin

             ”Do you really believe that Lenawee citizens are bigots because it has a low Black population.”

            No, of course not.  But it is telling (and a bit humorous) that the same Liberals who champion themselves as being in favor of diversity and all that lovely stuff are the same Liberals who retire to there Lily-white neighborhoods every night and shop in neighborhoods that hardly could be confused with a Bennetton ad.  Typical Liberal mantra: Diversity is beautiful- as long as its done elsewhere.

          • JoeBrit

            To Kevin below:

            Lenawee County is a conservative Republican county. I’ll say no more.

          • Kevin

            To JoeBrit, below:

            What’s your point?  Portland is predominantly Liberal, yet it’s pretty lily-white.  Oh, let’s not forget Berkely, San Francisco, Seattle, Vermont, Massachusetts… Gee, maybe Libs are racist segregationists too.

          • Kevin

            To JoeBrit, below:

            What’s your point?  Portland is predominantly Liberal, yet it’s pretty lily-white.  Oh, let’s not forget Berkely, San Francisco, Seattle, Vermont, Massachusetts… Gee, maybe Libs are racist segregationists too.

          • JoeBrit

            To Kevin below 2:

            Your assumption that people move one place or another to retire in Whiteland is ridiculous. Ann Arbor, a most liberal city in MI is mostly white.

            I said this before. This county is a conservative Republican county by majority. Does that bother you?
            But it is only that way by majority. Believe it or not there are liberal Democrats here, and for the county overall, they comprise a substantial minority. Our previous US Rep was in fact a Democrat.

            So your ideas are really silly.

          • Kevin

            To JoeBrit below:

            Why should that bother me?  I could not give two Mongoloid donkeys dry humping in a Cadillac about your neighborhood’s racial/political make-up- Libs care about stuff like that.  I and people like me don’t have quotas when it comes to friends and neighbors and close acquaintances.  I prefer to be around nice people, regardless of color and/or politics. 

            And since when is defending the rich a sin?  If being rich is a sin, then your Liberal comrades in Hollywood and in politics are demons.  As strange as this concept is to Liberals like you, Conservatives defend anyone who stands up for what is right, not what makes them feel good.  That, sir, is the difference betwixt you and I.

            And for the record, I am upper middle class.  But I have friends both poor and middle class.  (Income, at least in my book, is not a determinant of one’s virtuosity and  kindness.) Thank you very much for playing “I Bet I Know How Much Kevin Earns” game.  Please enjoy your parting gifts.

          • Kevin

            To JoeBrit below:

            Why should that bother me?  I could not give two Mongoloid donkeys dry humping in a Cadillac about your neighborhood’s racial/political make-up- Libs care about stuff like that.  I and people like me don’t have quotas when it comes to friends and neighbors and close acquaintances.  I prefer to be around nice people, regardless of color and/or politics. 

            And since when is defending the rich a sin?  If being rich is a sin, then your Liberal comrades in Hollywood and in politics are demons.  As strange as this concept is to Liberals like you, Conservatives defend anyone who stands up for what is right, not what makes them feel good.  That, sir, is the difference betwixt you and I.

            And for the record, I am upper middle class.  But I have friends both poor and middle class.  (Income, at least in my book, is not a determinant of one’s virtuosity and  kindness.) Thank you very much for playing “I Bet I Know How Much Kevin Earns” game.  Please enjoy your parting gifts.

          • Martin Hale

            No, Shergald, what I said, and what I believe, is that you are a hypocrite and a fraud – you taunt and agitate trying to stir up people with charges of racism, while you choose to live in a lily-white enclave in an overwhelmingly white county.  I never said the people of your town or county are bigots, but it’s interesting that your mind went there on its own.  Telling, no?  Sort of like an impromptu projective test of sorts, eh, Dr. Freud? 

            The facts of the demographic breakdown of Britton and Lenawee County are just plain facts – they hold no emotion or opinion.  You live surrounded by white people and have little interaction with minorities on a day to day basis in your community.  That’s a fact.  You have no standing to lecture anyone on the importance of diversity because it’s obviously not that important to you, as far as how you live your own life.  Oh, and while I’m thinking about it, for the record, Lenawee County has about half the national concentration of Hispanic and Latinos – so you are even insulated from reality in that regard too.  LC reports being 87.6% white, non-Hispanic as compared to 63.7% for the US. 

            Anyway, to my mind, you’re just a preachy old washed-up white agitator with a vastly overrated opinion of himself who spends his whole life in front of a computer because he really doesn’t have much else going on.  I don’t know if that’s because your health is poor, or whether you’re just not that good at actually getting along with real people.  You’ve been reduced to trolling a relatively small website with a limited reach because you can’t
            cut it on the big sites any more.  Too many people, too much going on –
            you can’t track it all.  You sit in eternal judgment of others but yet can’t be arsed to live up to what you preach. 

            Usenet used to be crawling with slime like you 25 years ago and I took my share of pleasure in rattling their cages back then, as I still do today.  Cheap thrills, eh wot?

            I have no respect for you.

            None.

            Your inane repitition of the same six canned topics is boring; your slavish copying of Juan Cole’s material makes me think you have your nose firmly wedged up Mr. Cole’s buttcrack; and your insults are frankly just amusing to me – unimaginative and hackneyed is how I would characterise them.  One of the liberal members of my mailing list group responded a couple of months ago to one of your comments with “Please tell me I don’t sound like that.  Please.”  The rest of reassured him that he doesn’t.

            See, I envision you, old, wrinkly, probably with a few of those nasty florid purple, yellow and green bruises that CLL patients so frequently have, scowling at your computer screen muttering dark oaths at all the young people who’re laughing at you.

            And I laugh. 

            I read the stories of your being banned from even lefty websites and I imagine a misfit who’s so “anti-”, he can’t even get along with like-minded peers over the long-haul. 

            And I laugh. 

            I see you continually befuddled by the ‘intricacies’ of logging into Disqus, and I read your persistent attempts to blame Disqus for your troubles.

            And I laugh.

            You’re more entertaining than most of what’s on teevee, so keep ‘em coming you garrulous old mountebank – I’m always on the prowl for fresh content.  Especially hypocritical racial taunts from the heart of Redneckistan.  Yee-haw, buddy!

            TTFN 

          • Martin Hale

            No, Shergald, what I said, and what I believe, is that you are a hypocrite and a fraud – you taunt and agitate trying to stir up people with charges of racism, while you choose to live in a lily-white enclave in an overwhelmingly white county.  I never said the people of your town or county are bigots, but it’s interesting that your mind went there on its own.  Telling, no?  Sort of like an impromptu projective test of sorts, eh, Dr. Freud? 

            The facts of the demographic breakdown of Britton and Lenawee County are just plain facts – they hold no emotion or opinion.  You live surrounded by white people and have little interaction with minorities on a day to day basis in your community.  That’s a fact.  You have no standing to lecture anyone on the importance of diversity because it’s obviously not that important to you, as far as how you live your own life.  Oh, and while I’m thinking about it, for the record, Lenawee County has about half the national concentration of Hispanic and Latinos – so you are even insulated from reality in that regard too.  LC reports being 87.6% white, non-Hispanic as compared to 63.7% for the US. 

            Anyway, to my mind, you’re just a preachy old washed-up white agitator with a vastly overrated opinion of himself who spends his whole life in front of a computer because he really doesn’t have much else going on.  I don’t know if that’s because your health is poor, or whether you’re just not that good at actually getting along with real people.  You’ve been reduced to trolling a relatively small website with a limited reach because you can’t
            cut it on the big sites any more.  Too many people, too much going on –
            you can’t track it all.  You sit in eternal judgment of others but yet can’t be arsed to live up to what you preach. 

            Usenet used to be crawling with slime like you 25 years ago and I took my share of pleasure in rattling their cages back then, as I still do today.  Cheap thrills, eh wot?

            I have no respect for you.

            None.

            Your inane repitition of the same six canned topics is boring; your slavish copying of Juan Cole’s material makes me think you have your nose firmly wedged up Mr. Cole’s buttcrack; and your insults are frankly just amusing to me – unimaginative and hackneyed is how I would characterise them.  One of the liberal members of my mailing list group responded a couple of months ago to one of your comments with “Please tell me I don’t sound like that.  Please.”  The rest of reassured him that he doesn’t.

            See, I envision you, old, wrinkly, probably with a few of those nasty florid purple, yellow and green bruises that CLL patients so frequently have, scowling at your computer screen muttering dark oaths at all the young people who’re laughing at you.

            And I laugh. 

            I read the stories of your being banned from even lefty websites and I imagine a misfit who’s so “anti-”, he can’t even get along with like-minded peers over the long-haul. 

            And I laugh. 

            I see you continually befuddled by the ‘intricacies’ of logging into Disqus, and I read your persistent attempts to blame Disqus for your troubles.

            And I laugh.

            You’re more entertaining than most of what’s on teevee, so keep ‘em coming you garrulous old mountebank – I’m always on the prowl for fresh content.  Especially hypocritical racial taunts from the heart of Redneckistan.  Yee-haw, buddy!

            TTFN 

        • Anonymous

          We will just immigrate ourselves into you house and upon your property then we will be able to view first hand how you would deal with “Illegal Immigration”.

          Have a few of your own health care dollars at the ready for us also.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sultros bingo bill

          And that is the problem right there. Leftists confuse illegal immigration and legal immigration. Nobody gives a crap about legal immigrants who come here and follow the rules and contribute. If you cannot understand the problems of illegal immigration you are either a fool or a liar. Open a history book and see what happens with unchecked immigration. The parent culture is destroyed. Bad news, unless you want a land as corrupt and Mexico and South America. Remember, they are coming here, not the other way around.

          • JoeBrit

            And what is it that causes those broken or fatherless families in the Black community? And why do the majority of Blacks overwhelmingly vote Democrat?

            Your kind of ignorance is what leads to bigotry.

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            What leads to fatherless families? Government taking over the responsibility of the father by paying mom to produce babies.  Blacks vote Dem because they are lied to about how they NEED the government to support them.

            You are the only bigot and racist here, Slow Joe.

          • JoeBrit

            To Wolf below:

            Your words about Black people have just repeated the stereotypes that underpin racism. So it does little good to accuse others. You and others here are filled with them. Well, it is a Republican site, I suppose.

          • Anonymous

            Your kind of ignorance is indicative of willful stupidity.

        • http://profiles.google.com/oatscarter Oats Carter

          “Hispanophobia” is just some nonsense that was made up to justify the influx of illegals. Why are we the only country that deals with this nonsense?

          • JoeBrit

            We are located next to Mexico and close to the central and south American countries. We also have a long history going back 80 years in which we invited migrant labor into the US to pick our crops for a pittance. It may be true today as in the past but Americans only pay on average 10% of our income on food, the lowest among the world economies.

            In short, we have exploited this labor and it eventually became a way that poor people in the south might be able to feed their families.

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            You fucking retard you still keep equating legal and illegal immigration. And illegals wouldn’t be ‘exploited’ if they had obeyed the law and stayed in their own country!

          • Anonymous

            Conservatives are also firmly against the exploitation of illegals.

            Paying 2 cents more per head of lettuce is well worth the savings realized n crime, imprisonment, and handouts for illegals. Plus legal immigrants are more likely to assimilate and follow the law.

          • http://profiles.google.com/oatscarter Oats Carter

            Hey Joe, picking vegetables is not a skill. Anyone can pick vegetables. Also, only a small percentage of illegals pick our vegetables. And our food isn’t cheap because of illegals. There are many factors that determine the cost of food.

          • JoeBrit

            We are located next to Mexico and close to the central and south American countries. We also have a long history going back 80 years in which we invited migrant labor into the US to pick our crops for a pittance. It may be true today as in the past but Americans only pay on average 10% of our income on food, the lowest among the world economies.

            In short, we have exploited this labor and it eventually became a way that poor people in the south might be able to feed their families.

          • JoeBrit

            To Smith above: You’re correct about the legal immigration figure from Mexico, which applied to 2007. Sorry.

        • Anonymous

          Once again you display your shocking racism. I suggest Hispanics and their families follow the law, and you think they are offended by this?

          Why don’t you stop portraying Hispanics as some sort of criminal race incapable of living in a civilized society?

          I want them to get a green card and pursue citizenship. You want to stuff them in the back of a truck and turn them into a parasite class.

          Racist.

          • JoeBrit

            Most poor Hispanics know, that if they were to wait in line to come to the US legally, only a thousand at most would be allowed to enter. They are not considered “white.”

            Talk about racism, but get it right.

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            Bullshit, Most illegals know they have no skills to offer our country, so they break the law in hopes our idiot Democrats will provide them handouts. It’s not racism, it’s the LAW.

          • Anonymous

            Mexico is by far the largest contributor of LEGAL immigrants to the United States.

            Over 175,000 come to the US LEGALLY every year.

            And there are no racial quotas on immigration to the US. 

            So your assessment is wrong.

             But I’m sure your “hispanic friends” appreciate that the white guy has taken up their cause because they can’t speak for themselves. 

            /no seriously, privileged white liberals see themselves as some kind of superhero for minorities.  It’s pretty funny. 

          • Anonymous

            Ignorant racist. No wonder you’re a Democrat.

          • JoeBrit

            No skills to offer this country? Those southern immigrants who cross the border illegally pick your food cheaply so that you can feed your family off their sweat.

            And that’s another stereotype.

          • JoeBrit

            Most poor Hispanics know, that if they were to wait in line to come to the US legally, only a thousand at most would be allowed to enter. They are not considered “white.”

            Talk about racism, but get it right.

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          You are the only racist POS on this thread, Slow Joe. Go fuck yourself.

          • JoeBrit

            To Boa above: a two cents addition to a head of lettuce is not the point if we got rid of illegal immigrants who come here to work. The point is that would be no one to pick that lettuce, which is just what farmers in California complained of when the ICE people stole their workers.

            The crops rotted in the fields. Want to volunteer next year?

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          You are the only racist POS on this thread, Slow Joe. Go fuck yourself.

        • Martin Hale

          Is “-ophobia” the new Shergaldism of the week?

          Racism’s probably something you know a lot about since you live in a community which is 98.6% white, Shergald.  If you want, I can post the whole US Census Bureau ACS dataset for your locale – I’ve got it right here.  Very enlightening.

          I’m assuming that unless you’re in witness protection, or living in a group home for the mentally ill, you live where you do voluntarily, so at least some of the stench of segregation has got to rub off on you as well, since you choose to live there, and you tacitly support the prevailing attitudes by spending your OAP dollars at the stores there.  Which is it Busch’s over in Tecumseh or the Kroger in Dundee?

          And since you live in one of Michigan’s top agricultural counties, it’s probably a reasonable guess that a majority in your county overtly or covertly support a fair amount of migrant labour and the segregation which accompanies it.  Isn’t that Hispanophobia, Shergald, or is that just a trumped-up term you throw around here?

          Now scuttle away, cockroach, and find a really nasty cut and paste to “put me in my place”.  Maybe in the meantime you can bleat about ad hominems again for the umpteenth time.  Please do, I’ve a nice collection of yours from the past month or so – I’ve been dying for an excuse to post them and expose you for the hypocritical fraud that you are.

          • JoeBrit

            Pseudointellectuals alway resort to killing the messenger, which in your case now means defaming communities by association.

          • Kevin

            Well, okay, you have a point there.  I say this because your side has gone out of its way to make sure that everyone knows Tea Party members should be judged on individual merits, not judged as a collective based on the actions of one or a few. 

          • Martin Hale

            Facts don’t defame Shergald – that’s the lamest defence you could have possibly made.  Do you deny that the Village of Britton is 98.6% white?  Do you?

            Stating that fact isn’t defaming – it’s just the truth.  Just like it’s a fact that the population of Michigan is 14.2% black, ahead of the national average of 12.6%, but the population of Lenawee County is only 2.5% black.  You live in White-ville, dude.  Admit it to yourself.

            You can’t duck from where you choose to live and you can’t avoid what it says about your values, Shergald.  You live in the whitest of ‘whitey-tighty’ communities and then you smugly call other people racist.  Hypocrite.

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            You don’t even qualify as a an idiot. Martin is a thousand times more intelligent than you and he’s right. True intellectuals smack down idiots like you facts and reality, which always eluded you.

          • Anonymous

            It isn’t a good point.

            Why doesn’t your community tolerate diversity? 

            Was it the lynch mobs that kept the minorities out?  Did you head any of them?

          • TheDarkKnight

            Martin -

            I read your “And I laugh.” post below and I have to say, Bravo.

            *standing ovation*

            That was so cutting and on target I felt the pain myself.

            Please do keep indulging the rest of us — I have plenty of popcorn.

        • Anonymous

          All Hispanics are law-breakers?

          I’m going to have to disagree with you there.

           

          • JoeBrit

            You must be replying to somone else.

          • Anonymous

            You equate hispanic with illegal immigrant.

            All illegal immigrants are law breakers.

            Therefore if you see the two groups as the same you believe all hispanics are breaking the law.

            On this I cannot agree with you (although I will defend to the death your right to make an ass out of yourself in a public forum).

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZIL4KEDI7TFBKNUDAIWWYOA4CM Larry Gibby

          You must get flagged so often due to the monumental fatuousness of your wheezings. Just shut up and go back to pulling maintenace on thr inside of your nose.

      • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

        None of the Hispanics I know do.  They favor strong families, social conservatism, and hate illegals.

  • orbicularioculi

    To my friend, Coyote, in Arizona: “Wadda ya think of this?  Democrat Liberal Justices and Prosecutors “running wild”? 

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  • Anonymous

    There is no defense for this, those that have been or will be found to have used their offices for political purposes rather than legal ones should be fired and charges brought against them.  It is wrong when Conservatives do it, it is wrong when Liberals do it. 

    • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

      Name any conservative that has done this!.

      • Anonymous

        Albert Gonzales former Atty General of the United States used politics to decided who got the US Atty jobs and who they prosecuted.

        • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

          Proof? Thought not! 

          • Anonymous

            Seriously your lack of knowledge is astounding.  Here read for yourself:

             http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/s0809a/final.pdf

          • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

            So you believe that the attorney general choosing who gets jobs based on what he thought of their judgment and skills is bad, somehow?

          • Anonymous

            CT, thats not what the report said if you had read it.  That leads me to believe you are either purposfully lying about the subject or are just plain ingorant.  I cant decide which is worse.

          • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

            Did you even rad that thing, or just figure the lefty blog you saw them mention it had it all right without bothering to look?

          • Anonymous

            CT,

            I read it cover to cover did you?  It clearly states that those attys were let go for political reasons, not for how they did their jobs, but for political reasons.

          • Anonymous

            Seriously your lack of knowledge is astounding.  Here read for yourself:

             http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/s0809a/final.pdf

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PO42AEFX3FLIHFRGAUFU3XMZPU Christopher

    My bar association is the Federalist Society.

    I dropped out of the ABA almost 20 years ago, the Tn Bar Association last year and my local bar association (that I subsequently re-joined last year).

    This is a political witchhunt.

    Since when did the Az. Board of Professional Responsibility (or whatever it’s called) start trying to revoke the licenses of lawyers who file lawsuits which are dismissed?

    These are the same lawyer-types who oppose “loser pays the costs of litigation” legislation that Rick Perry recently signed into law.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PO42AEFX3FLIHFRGAUFU3XMZPU Christopher

    My bar association is the Federalist Society.

    I dropped out of the ABA almost 20 years ago, the Tn Bar Association last year and my local bar association (that I subsequently re-joined last year).

    This is a political witchhunt.

    Since when did the Az. Board of Professional Responsibility (or whatever it’s called) start trying to revoke the licenses of lawyers who file lawsuits which are dismissed?

    These are the same lawyer-types who oppose “loser pays the costs of litigation” legislation that Rick Perry recently signed into law.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PO42AEFX3FLIHFRGAUFU3XMZPU Christopher

    My bar association is the Federalist Society.

    I dropped out of the ABA almost 20 years ago, the Tn Bar Association last year and my local bar association (that I subsequently re-joined last year).

    This is a political witchhunt.

    Since when did the Az. Board of Professional Responsibility (or whatever it’s called) start trying to revoke the licenses of lawyers who file lawsuits which are dismissed?

    These are the same lawyer-types who oppose “loser pays the costs of litigation” legislation that Rick Perry recently signed into law.

  • Michaeljgalleher

    “Thomas ran for re-election in 2008 on a platform of stamping out public corruption with Sheriff Joe Arpaio. ”

    Okay that’s pure comedy right there.  Running WITH Sheriff Joe on an anti-corruption campaign would be like running with The grand Wizard of the KKK on a racial Harmony platform.  You do realize that several federal grand juries are considering criminal indictments against him right?

      How’s about this crusading DA evince the slightest curiosity about how a man amasses a multi-million dollar real-estate empire on a Sheriff’s salary, or why he thinks he can arrest reporters for looking at land records, or illegally seal the land records office?

    Every wonder why drug and kidnapping gangs are operating with impunity, while 35,000+ felony arrest warrants go unserved in Maricopa County?

    It’s because sheriff Joe is paid by them to look the other way and protect their operations while harassing immigrants to make it look like he’s doing something.

  • Michaeljgalleher

    “Thomas ran for re-election in 2008 on a platform of stamping out public corruption with Sheriff Joe Arpaio. ”

    Okay that’s pure comedy right there.  Running WITH Sheriff Joe on an anti-corruption campaign would be like running with The grand Wizard of the KKK on a racial Harmony platform.  You do realize that several federal grand juries are considering criminal indictments against him right?

      How’s about this crusading DA evince the slightest curiosity about how a man amasses a multi-million dollar real-estate empire on a Sheriff’s salary, or why he thinks he can arrest reporters for looking at land records, or illegally seal the land records office?

    Every wonder why drug and kidnapping gangs are operating with impunity, while 35,000+ felony arrest warrants go unserved in Maricopa County?

    It’s because sheriff Joe is paid by them to look the other way and protect their operations while harassing immigrants to make it look like he’s doing something.

  • Michaeljgalleher

    “Thomas ran for re-election in 2008 on a platform of stamping out public corruption with Sheriff Joe Arpaio. ”

    Okay that’s pure comedy right there.  Running WITH Sheriff Joe on an anti-corruption campaign would be like running with The grand Wizard of the KKK on a racial Harmony platform.  You do realize that several federal grand juries are considering criminal indictments against him right?

      How’s about this crusading DA evince the slightest curiosity about how a man amasses a multi-million dollar real-estate empire on a Sheriff’s salary, or why he thinks he can arrest reporters for looking at land records, or illegally seal the land records office?

    Every wonder why drug and kidnapping gangs are operating with impunity, while 35,000+ felony arrest warrants go unserved in Maricopa County?

    It’s because sheriff Joe is paid by them to look the other way and protect their operations while harassing immigrants to make it look like he’s doing something.

  • Anonymous

    As a (sem-)conservative Arizona resident, I can tell you that Andrew Thomas and Lisa Aubuchon should have been thrown out of office and disbarred years ago.

    They filed 40 charges against Stapley that were past the statue of limitations. You can argue whether or not Stapley did anything wrong, but Thomas and Aubuchon did.

    Also they filed bribery charges against Judge Donahoe when no one (not even Thomas or Aubuchon) believe he received any money. Filed a rackateering lawsuit against everyone when the judgements didn’t go their way.

    They are scummy lawyers that give lawyers and politicians a bad name. Good riddance.

  • Guest

    It’s not the State Bar of Arizona prosecuting Andrew Thomas, it’s the Supreme Court of Arizona. The Supreme Court has recommended that he be disbarred after being charged with ethical violations including:

    1) filing a series of frivolous lawsuits that he admitted was groundless,
    2) filing lawsuits solely to harass and intimidate,
    3) making misrepresentations to the court,
    4) intimidating members of the judiciary,
    5) filing charges barred by the statute of limitations,
    6) engaging in fraud to the grand jury for failing to note that the charges are barred by statute of limitations,
    7) filing a fraudulent RICO cases for purposes of intimidation, and
    8) incompetence.

    And that’s only a partial list of what he’s done. Here’s the Supreme Court’s report on his conduct:

    http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14/5718397.0.pdf

    So, the short version:  The Supeme Court of Arizona is recommending disbarrment because he’s an unethical, incomeptant liar who has violated the law multiple times.  It has nothing to do with blogging or “fighting” illegal immigration.  But hey, don’t let silly things like facts get in the way of your blogging.

    • D-day

      No, it’s the State Bar.  The Supreme Court is the forum.

      • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

        Right, the bar does the accusation and hearings, the supreme court doesn’t.  That’s fundamental legal structure. Whether the guy did all that stuff or not, or was unethical and shady in his efforts, I don’t know – I tend to trust bar associations and such for now when they make this kind of judgment.

    • http://www.vega.com Vega – Proud Liberal from NYC

      That’s an interesting link that sheds a lot more light on this situation.

    • JoeBrit

      This takes the cake: when push comes to shove, the right wing will eventually employ Orwellian tactics.

      “…..came up with a unique way to prosecute illegal immigrants with a felony, instead of just letting them go with a slap on the wrist. He used a felony smuggling statute to prosecute them, describing them as “smuggling themselves.”

      • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

        BWAHAHAHAHA have you missed everything the Left has done since FDR took office to get what it wanted?

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think “Orwellian” means what you think it means.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think “Orwellian” means what you think it means.

        • JoeBrit

          When a state prosecutor charges an illegal immigrant with “smuggling himself” into the country for the purpose of sending him to prison on a felony, at least for me, the action betrays a tinge of 1984. You may disagree.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think “Orwellian” means what you think it means.

    • JoeBrit

      This takes the cake: when push comes to shove, the right wing will eventually employ Orwellian tactics.

      “…..came up with a unique way to prosecute illegal immigrants with a felony, instead of just letting them go with a slap on the wrist. He used a felony smuggling statute to prosecute them, describing them as “smuggling themselves.”

    • JoeBrit

      This takes the cake: when push comes to shove, the right wing will eventually employ Orwellian tactics.

      “…..came up with a unique way to prosecute illegal immigrants with a felony, instead of just letting them go with a slap on the wrist. He used a felony smuggling statute to prosecute them, describing them as “smuggling themselves.”

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  • http://www.vega.com Vega – Proud Liberal from NYC

    This is an interesting story.

    However if true it seems the real witchhunt orginated with confronting corruption. It seems to have little to do with being conservative or the illegal immigration positions.

    Arizona has a long history of corruption. I seem to be getting not enough of the story here, but it’s not surprising that there would be retaliation when you start taking on corruption on a state level.

  • http://www.vega.com Vega – Proud Liberal from NYC

    This is an interesting story.

    However if true it seems the real witchhunt orginated with confronting corruption. It seems to have little to do with being conservative or the illegal immigration positions.

    Arizona has a long history of corruption. I seem to be getting not enough of the story here, but it’s not surprising that there would be retaliation when you start taking on corruption on a state level.

  • http://www.vega.com Vega – Proud Liberal from NYC

    This is an interesting story.

    However if true it seems the real witchhunt orginated with confronting corruption. It seems to have little to do with being conservative or the illegal immigration positions.

    Arizona has a long history of corruption. I seem to be getting not enough of the story here, but it’s not surprising that there would be retaliation when you start taking on corruption on a state level.

  • http://www.vega.com Vega – Proud Liberal from NYC

    This is an interesting story.

    However if true it seems the real witchhunt orginated with confronting corruption. It seems to have little to do with being conservative or the illegal immigration positions.

    Arizona has a long history of corruption. I seem to be getting not enough of the story here, but it’s not surprising that there would be retaliation when you start taking on corruption on a state level.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZIL4KEDI7TFBKNUDAIWWYOA4CM Larry Gibby

      Unlike New York. Touting one’s mental deficiencies is not to one’s advantage in certain places, by the way.

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  • Anonymous

    There’s more to this than partisan politics.  Thomas, along with Arpaio, essentially waged war against the judges of the county.

    http://www.heatcity.org/2009/12/at-rally-lawyers-call-maricopa-county-prosecutor-a-threat-to-the-rule-of-law.html

    They took a standard budget fight at the county level, and decided to “persuade” the judges by filing baseless criminal cases against them, staking out the judge’s houses, running intimidation campaigns against the judges from the Sherrif’s office, and more.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/01/05/20100105donahoe0106.html

    Thomas is a disgrace to the law, and should be disbarred sooner than later.

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  • Anonymous

    Hmm, seems the leftists here are upset about frivoulous lawsuits. I’m sure they felt the same about the lawfare against Sarah Palin.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, seems the leftists here are upset about frivoulous lawsuits. I’m sure they felt the same about the lawfare against Sarah Palin.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, seems the leftists here are upset about frivoulous lawsuits. I’m sure they felt the same about the lawfare against Sarah Palin.

  • JoeBrit

    Right Wing News blogger Rachel Alexander.looks to me to be a college girl. Anyone know when she will graduate? I ask this because I would like to know the competency and background of a writer before I comment.

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  • Toastrider

    Yeaaaaah, I wanna hear more of this before I make any snap decisions. Thomas may be clean, and Alexander certainly is, but Arpaio? I don’t trust the guy. He’s got a nasty habit of forgetting the 4th Amendment when it suits him. Balko’s got a file on him that’s bigger than the stimulus bill.

    The reason he’s popular, though, is that he put his finger right on the problems that have been pissing off Arizonans for quite some time. Drives the libs crazy.

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