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The Case Against The Mosque At Ground Zero In Quotes
Written By : John Hawkins

In recommending that a different location be found for the Islamic Center, we are mindful that some legitimate questions have been raised about who is providing the funding to build it, and what connections, if any, its leaders might have with groups whose ideologies stand in contradiction to our shared values. These questions deserve a response, and we hope those backing the project will be transparent and forthcoming. But regardless of how they respond, the issue at stake is a broader one.

Proponents of the Islamic Center may have every right to build at this site, and may even have chosen the site to send a positive message about Islam. The bigotry some have expressed in attacking them is unfair, and wrong. But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right. In our judgment, building an Islamic Center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain – unnecessarily – and that is not right. — The Anti-Defamation League

The owner is certainly not required to build a Muslim center and mosque on that site. Because it is a choice, it’s not wrong for the community to ask: Why are you making this choice? Why are you doing something that feels so painful to us? The community isn’t wrong to plead with the owner to choose to do something else with that property. It’s not enough of an answer to say we are doing it because we have a right to do it.

What troubles me about the way the NYT presents the problem is that it tries to make it seem as though the people who question the choice to build the mosque don’t understand or don’t support the principle of freedom of religion — that they just hate (or dislike) Muslims and, for that reason, would deny them the same freedom other religious persons enjoy. Rights don’t work like that. But we can completely understand and support a principle of freedom and still be critical of the way someone chooses to behave in this world. For example, I’m a big supporter of freedom of the press, and I don’t feel the slightest bit hypocritical condemning something stupid I read in the newspaper. — Althouse

Muslims came to America nine years ago, brutally murdered 3,000 men, women and children in the name of Allah, and yet the burden is on us, their families, their widows and children, to exhibit tolerance for Muslim insensitivity. Shame on the politicians, whose moral vanity knows no boundaries. We will fight this. — Debra Burlingame, co-founder of 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America and the sister of hijacked American Airlines flight 77 pilot Charles Burlingame

If you read no further, know this: RedState supports the Anti-Defamation League in its opposition to the so-called “Ground Zero mosque.” The ADL is right on all counts: in its rejection of bigotry, its affirmation of American religious freedom, and its declaration that common decency demands the end of this effort. As the ADL notes, this is “not a question of rights, but a question of what is right.”

…The fact is that the groups behind the “Ground Zero mosque” / Cordoba House / Park51 chose the site explicitly for its proximity to Ground Zero, and then spent months boasting about it in the press.

…A “Ground Zero mosque” — even if only near Ground Zero, even if a “community center” rather than a mosque — is the opposite of reasoned restraint. It tramples upon the principle of a public square marked by democratic consideration. It displays a grotesque lack of generosity, while demanding extraordinary generosity toward itself. It insists upon rights — which no one disputes — and ignores responsibilities. It is, in short, a bitter vindication of the critics of American democracy at our nation’s Founding. — The Directors, Redstate

In Jerusalem, triumphant Muslims built the Al-Aqsa mosque on top of the Jews’ revered Temple Mount. They transformed what had been for a thousand years the largest cathedral in Christendom, Constantinople’s magnificent St. Sophia basilica, into a sprawling mosque complex. And the Moorish Ummayad dynasty in Spain, made the city of Cordoba its capital, and installed an immense mosque on the site of an ancient Christian church there.

Now, an imam in New York, who has suddenly come into $100 million from undisclosed sources, wants to build a 13-story Islamic Cultural Center adjacent to the site of Shariah’s greatest triumph to date in America: Ground Zero, the place where the World Trade Center’s twin towers proudly stood until they were destroyed by Shariah-adherent jihadists on September 11, 2001. It is not a coincidence that the imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf, has called his project “the Cordoba House.”

Such a mosque on 9/11′s hallowed ground would not only constitute a durable, symbolic taunt by our enemies about their bloody victory. In accordance with Shariah, once ground has been taken for Islam, it can never revert to the non-Muslim Dar al-Harb, literally the House of War.

In other words, the Ground Zero mosque is designed to be a permanent, in-our-face beachhead for Shariah, a platform for inspiring the triumphalist ambitions of the faithful and eroding resistence to their demands for separate and (for the moment, at least) equal treatment in America. — Frank Gaffney

We feel that Ground Zero is a war memorial. It’s a burial ground, and it is an offensive idea of a mosque, to put it here, where thousands of people died, where their remains are here. It’s humiliating, it’s demeaning. — Pamela Geller

The proposed “Cordoba House” overlooking the World Trade Center site – where a group of jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks – is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. For example, most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.

Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to “symbolize interfaith cooperation” when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.

…America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.

No mosque.

No self deception.

No surrender.

The time to take a stand is now – at this site on this issue. — Newt Gingrich

(Building a mosque at Ground Zero) sends a particularly bad message, particularly (because) of the background of the Imam who is supporting this. This is an Imam who has supported radical causes, who has not been forthright in condemning Islamic (terrorism) and the worst instincts that that brings about. So it not only is exactly the wrong place, right at Ground Zero, but it’s a mosque supported by an Imam who has a record of support for causes that were sympathetic with terrorism. Come on! We’re gonna allow that at Ground Zero? This is a desecration. Nobody would allow something like that at Pearl Harbor. Let’s have some respect for who died there and why they died there. Let’s not put this off on some kind of politically correct theory. I mean, they died there because of Islamic extremist terrorism. They are our enemy, we can say that, the world will not end when we say that. And the reality is it will not and should not insult any decent Muslim because decent Muslims should be as opposed to Islamic extremism as you and I are. — Rudy Giuliani

When I look over there and see a mosque, it’s going to hurt. Build it someplace else. — C. Lee Hanson, whose son, Peter, was killed in the attacks

Equally opposed (to the Ground Zero mosque) is Stephen Suleyman Schwartz, a devout Muslim and director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism in Washington.

Schwartz notes that the spiritual leader of the Cordoba Initiative, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, describes himself as a Sufi — a Muslim focused on Islamic mysticism and spiritual wisdom. But “building a 15-story Islamic center at ground zero isn’t something a Sufi would do,’’ according to Schwartz, also a practitioner of Sufism. “Sufism is supposed to be based on sensitivity toward others,’’ yet Cordoba House comes across as “grossly insensitive.’’ He rejects Rauf’s stance that a highly visible Muslim presence at ground zero is the way to make a statement opposing what happened on 9/11. Better, in his view, is the approach of many Muslims “who hate terrorism and who have gone privately to the site and recited prayers for the dead silently and unperceived by others.’’ — Jeff Jacoby

They are not using (the Ground Zero Mosque) to lead the war like Americans need to see us do and they are wasting our resources, not to mention that being close to the hallowed ground that is so sensitive in the souls of the families of 9/11. I think it is extremely poor judgment. — Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy

I’d say I’m troubled by it, but I don’t know enough to say that it ought to be prohibited. But frankly I’ve heard enough about it and read enough about it that I wish somebody in New York would just put the brakes on for a while and take a look at this.

I’ve also read some things about some of the people involved that make me wonder about their motivations. So I don’t know enough to reach a conclusion, but I know enough to say that this thing is only going to create more division in our society, and somebody ought to put the brakes on it. Give these people a chance to come out and explain who they are, where their money’s coming from.

If the people building this large Islamic center are just looking to build a large facility — a house of worship and center — in New York, why so close to 9/11, with all the sensitivity associated with that? — Joe Lieberman

The imam behind a proposed mosque near Ground Zero is a prominent member of a group that helped sponsor the pro-Palestinian activists who clashed violently with Israeli commandos at sea this week.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is a key figure in Malaysian-based Perdana Global Peace Organization, according to its Website.
Perdana is the single biggest donor ($366,000) so far to the Free Gaza Movement, a key organizer of the six-ship flotilla that tried to break Israel’s blockade of the Hamas-run Gaza Strip Monday. — New York Post

No one is disputing that America stands for – and should stand for – religious tolerance. It is a foundation of our republic. This is not an issue of religious tolerance but of common moral sense. To build a mosque at Ground Zero is a stab in the heart of the families of the innocent victims of those horrific attacks. Just days after 9/11, the spiritual leader of the organization that wants to build the mosque, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, suggested that blame be placed on the innocents when he stated that the “United States’ policies were an accessory to the crime that happened” and that “in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.” Rauf refuses to recognize that Hamas is a terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of our ally, Israel, and refuses to provide information about the sources of funding for the $100 million mosque. Rauf also plays a key role in a group behind the flotilla designed to provoke Israel in its justifiable blockade of Gaza. These are just a few of the points Americans are realizing as New York considers the proposed mosque just a stone’s throw away from 9/11’s sacred ground. — Sarah Palin

New York City voters oppose 52 – 31 percent a proposal by a Muslim group to build a mosque and cultural center two blocks from Ground Zero, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Another 17 percent are undecided.

Opinions about the proposed mosque range from 46 – 36 percent support among Manhattan voters to 73 – 14 percent opposition in Staten Island, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

Opposition to the mosque is 56 – 31 percent among white voters, 45 – 34 percent among black voters and 60 – 19 percent among Hispanic voters. Opposition among religious groups is 66 – 22 percent among Jews, 66 – 24 percent among white Catholics and 46 – 36 percent among white Protestants. — Quinnipiac

Most voters in New York (58%) oppose the building of an Islamic mosque near Ground Zero in New York City.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state finds that just 20% favor the building of a mosque near the 9/11 Ground Zero site, while 21% are not sure. These findings are very similar to those found nationwide. — Rasmussen Reports

Such was the violence on 9-11 that my brother’s remains were never found. He was killed by Islamists and now they want to build a mosque on his grave. Their victory will be complete. — Christina Regenhard

That is a burial ground. I do have a problem with having a mosque on top of the site where [terrorists] can gloat about what they did. — Retired FDNY Deputy Chief Al Santora, who lost a son on 9/11

This is my only son. He was a firefighter and he went into rescue people that day. I’m upset about the building of the mosque, because Muslim terrorists murdered my son and 3,000 Americans at this site. — Eileen Tallon

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  • UFKA_Smithwick

    I think they should have the right to build that mosque in the same way neo-nazis can march through towns predominately filled with jewish holocaust survivors, or Fred Phelps can protest at military funerals (on public property).

    Not because it is the right thing to do, obviously. They are all terrible people and these actions reveals that. Not because we're better off for it, we aren't. But because those rights are guaranteed by our constitution.

    So while it doesn't help us at all to let these people do these awful things, the alternative (censorship; government deeming what speech/actions are appropriate) is far worse.

    Let them build the damn thing, then face protests and condemnation every day it's open.

    • http://twitter.com/DaSaintFan Mark Stone

      UFKA, I've been thinking this over the past few days, and I have to admit that I”m coming to that line of reasoning. I may not like the idea of it being there, but they have the right to build it if it's their property.

      That being said, any New Yorker has the right to try to obtain the property next door and build a few barbeque shops and pork-smokers …

    • Julius Henry

      Wrong, wrong, wrong. Owning propety doesn't give you the right to do anything you want with it. It is appropriate for a local community to set rules and standards. I dont have a right to build a strip club next to a preschool, or a liquior store next to a high school…zoning commisions ALL over the country rule on appropriate use, even ruling against christian churches being built in certain area, due to increaded traffic loading or historical significance of the neighborhood.

  • coolczech

    “I'm a liberal, and therefore I'm reflexively anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Western, and pro-Anyone else anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Western. I am utterly cowed by any claim of multiculturalism and deathly afraid to stand up for my own country and heritage lest I be called intolerant. Not that I like my own country and heritage, anyway.”

    - Typical American Liberal

    • D-Vega

      “I am hysterical and I follow whatever talking points and rumors the wingnuts give me.”
      - coolczech

      • tblrk2006

        “Im vega, and I support and encourage a muslim victory mosque as big as possible and as close to ground zero as possible, and run by a foaming mouthed imam.”

        - D-Vega

        • Mahatma

          a muslim victory mosque*

          *wingnut spin on a house of worship.

          • CoolCzech

            “a muslim victory mosque*

            *wingnut spin on a house of worship like the one where the first World Trade Center was planned, recruited, and executed from, and that have to be kept under FBI surveillance all over the country.”

            - Mahatma

            THERE! Fixed that for ya!!!

      • CoolCzech

        “Being a liberal, I love to compulsively project!”

        - D-Vega.

        You also wonderfully blind yourself to any fact that gets in the way of the vision of the world as one big happy United Federation of Planets, ruled over by the Prime Directive.

    • TxLass

      Liberals would rather be right than be happy. Too bad for them, they're neither, especially on this subject.

  • Joe Squid

    Building a mosque at ground zero is akin to building a Sushi bar on Ford island – just ten years after Pearl Harbor.
    I suppose Bloomberg would have had no trouble with that, either!

    • Mediumheadboy

      As long as they don't use trans fats or too much salt, that is.

  • tblrk2006

    Vega, Pete, and Harp all support the muslim victory mosque.

    • D-Vega

      What is the muslim victory mosque?

      I support not being a religious bigot. And religious freedom.

      • StanW

        You support being an Anti-American idiot and a doormat for Muslim conquest, Vega. You still haven't figured out that our opposition to this mosque has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with religion!

        • D-Vega

          Of course it does. If it were any other religion, would anyone mind?

          Stop pretending this has nothing to do with religion. It's all about muslims.

          • StanW

            It is about CORDOBA HOUSE MOSQUE and this being an in-you-face monument of Muslim conquest. Stop pretending that you know anything about this, Vega!

          • D-Vega

            Nonsense, Stan. Just admit you want to discriminate against the religion of Islam and leave it at that.

          • StanW

            Since that is a lie, I have no reason to admit anything. “Because Vega Says So” is the world STUPIDEST reason for anything, and you keep using it!

          • Mahatma

            stan you're wrong here, again.

          • StanW

            Shut up, Martha!

          • D-Vega

            Builders = Muslims

            Opposition? Because they are muslim.

            If not Muslim? No one would care.

            Conclusion? Religious Discrimination.

          • StanW

            More to it that that, Vega. And you know it but are too much of traitor to admit it.

            Conclusion, Vega is an America-hating ass!

          • TheDickNixon

            You mean the false religion of Islam. The 7th century death cult, if you will.

          • D-Vega

            That's how you see, fine.

            So then it is about religious bigotry. Just say so and move on.

          • TxLass

            IAre you truly this much of a fool? I think not, merely lazy. No other religion, cult or group murdered 3000 people on 9/11. It was Muslim extremists. Islam is not a religion, but a cult. Sharia is not religion, but an ideology. CAIR, who shows up at the opening of an envelope and sues at any percieved slight or alleged insensitivity, is silent as the grave over this, the HEIGHT of insensititvity.

            Buy you go ahead and think it's only about religion.

          • Mahatma

            Muslims also DIED in the Twin Tower collapse.

          • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

            Islam consider them martyrs to the cause, asshatma.

          • Theo5

            You do mean the ones flying the hijacked planes, right?

          • Mediumheadboy

            Jesus tapdancing Christ, Asshatma, I swear you get dumber every day. And I wouldn't have even thought that possible.

          • D-Vega

            So then it is about religious bigotry. Just say so and move on.

          • tblrk2006

            Of course it does. If it were any other religion, would anyone mind?

            Stop pretending this has nothing to do with religion. It's all about muslims.

            It is about THIS mosque. And it is about THIS imam. And while we are at it, yes, islam is a false violen religion and it has shown that it doesnt deserve equal protections. I, and most Americans, would like to see it (and enablers like you) gone gone gone. Im sure they will let you be a pet the longest given your faithful servitude.

          • D-Vega

            You know little about this Imam, who has been there for more than 20 years. So please, spare me the nonsense. You only know what you've seen from conservative blogs, who don't know jack.

          • Christopher_Taylor

            … no, if it were another religion nobody would mind. Because no other religion killed almost 4000 people just a few dozen yards away Good lord, Vega how vapid can you be?

          • D-Vega

            So then it is about religious bigotry. Just say so and move on.

          • StanW

            You are trying soooo very hard to get anyone on this board to agree with you, Vega. but it is still a lie, and you know it!

      • tblrk2006

        Its the mosque dedicated to the death cult bigot anti women religion being built to show its followers that the great satan has been compromised. Fittingly its being run by a “imam” that deserves nothing better than a bullet to the head. And you, the pussy pushover american dogooder liberal, are too scared to oppose it and hide behind some perverted “religious freedom” idea you give anybody that kills rapes or causes harm in the name of that religion.

    • Mahatma

      the muslim victory mosque*

      Wingnut spin on a house of worship

    • Mediumheadboy

      As they support anything that involves bending over and grabbing your ankles for the goat-rapers.

  • RBC47

    The opposition to the mosque near Ground Zero is based on a simple – but fundamentally wrong – proposition. The proposition is: Muslim were driving the airplanes that crashed into the World Trade Center; all Muslims are essentially the same; therefore this is offensive. This is like saying that Fred Phelps and the Westboro Church are just like Benedict XVI and the Sistine Chapel. No one with more brain cells than a turnip would agree with that – and no person with a functioning brain should think that all Muslims are the same.

    But a lot of people in the Islamic world believe we do think such absurd things, and that makes it all the easier for Hamas, al-Quaeda etc to recruit their terrorists. Proving, as Mayor Bloomberg is trying to do, that we really mean it when we say that religious tolerance is a fundamental principle of ours would change minds. Preventing the creation of the Islamic center will confirm the worst fears of the Islamic radicals.

    If the mosque near Ground Zero is NOT built, those who prevented it will have blood on their hands.

    • gfchicago

      But a lot of people in the Islamic world believe we do think such absurd things, and that makes it all the easier for Hamas, al-Quaeda etc to recruit their terrorists. Proving, as Mayor Bloomberg is trying to do, that we really mean it when we say that religious tolerance is a fundamental principle of ours would change minds. Preventing the creation of the Islamic center will confirm the worst fears of the Islamic radicals,

      Yeah right. All during the '90's Osama bin Laden laughed his ass off at us after every attack on U.S. interests that we didn't respond to and called the U.S. a paper tiger.

      So if the Mosque is built, it will do nothing other than make us look weak and encourage more terrorist attacks on U.S. interest. So if the owners of this property build the Mosque will have blood on there hands with every attack.

      • D-Vega

        This place being built serves as an example to the non-crazy muslim world that the tripe the crazy muslims spew can't be true.

        That's what leaders do. Set an example. Bigots are the reactionaries.

        • tblrk2006

          Its being built as an example to the muslim world that we are defeated and cannot stop them. Learn a little history, they do this. Oh, and if they are non-crazy than why the crazy guy running the place?

          • D-Vega

            There is no crazy guy running the place.

            You should do your own research before you simply parrot what's fed to you.

        • Christopher_Taylor

          If they're so big on reaching out, showing they're better, and finding reconciliation, why not pick another spot that does not so upset people around the country?

          I mean, if that's their real purpose?

          • CoolCzech

            EXACTLY.

            As an example of “outreach,” this ranks right up their with the way Obama has “brought the races together.”

        • gfchicago

          Vega you are crazier than a bed bug. To the radical Muslim's it's going to make us look weak… So I call bullshit.

          You really should pay attention to people that grew up in the middle east and have grown up in that region. They tell us everyday how bad this religion is,

          • D-Vega

            So then we are being biased against islam, or aren't we?

            Who gives a shit what the radical thinks. This serves as an example to the vast majority of moderate muslims.

        • mightysamurai

          If their purpose is to spread good feelings about Muslims, why pick such a contentious area to build their mosque?

          Why, of all the places in all the cities in all the states in the country did they choose that specific location for their mosque?

          • D-Vega

            Find another location in lower manhattan for a building that size, samurai.

            Also, it has to be walking distance from the other building, a block away.

        • CoolCzech

          If they are so wonderful… why built THERE?

          And who's picking up the tab?

          And how could their wonderful Imam say that American policies were “accomplices” to 9/11? Refusing to allow Israel to be wiped off the face of the Earth is an “accomplice” to the murder of thousands of innocents?

          Again, you willfully blind yourself to the reality of things.

          • D-Vega

            If they are so wonderful… why built THERE?

            Where would you suggest, CT? Do you know of any property in lower Manhattan within short walking distance from the other building, which is now overflowing with people?

            And who's picking up the tab?

            They are fundraising for the construction. Are you assuming it will be terrorist money? Since all muslims are the same?

            And how could their wonderful Imam say that American policies were “accomplices” to 9/11? Refusing to allow Israel to be wiped off the face of the Earth is an “accomplice” to the murder of thousands of innocents?

            Are you saying our policies had nothing to do with 9/11? It doesn't mean our policies are not righteous, but they did figure into it. Am I now a traitor because I speak the truth?

        • Mrschwols

          Or this place NOT being built serves as an example of WHY moderate Muslims NEED to speak out against that crazy spew.

    • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

      Denial of the Koran's teachings is just plain stupid, and blindly believing the claim of 'peaceful' muslims is naive. The rest of your post is just clap trap, hoggo.

    • CoolCzech

      NO, actually the opposition is based on a simple assumption that we the non-Muslims of the USA are due the same fundamental respect and sensitivity that Muslims and other aggrieved minorities continuously and annoyingly demand of US. I wouldn't support the construction of a church at the sight of a mass killing of mostly non-Christians perpetrated in the name of Jesus (not that this happens, oddly enough). That's because I have at least an ounce of sensitivity and common sense.

    • Christopher_Taylor

      The proposition is: Muslim were driving the airplanes that crashed into the World Trade Center

      You should have stopped there, because that's where the real opposition ends. The rest is your bitter projection on others because its easier to argue against a false opponent you invent: a “straw man.”

      Well you're getting straw all over the place here. Try to confront what we say and believe rather than what you want us to, because it makes you feel better about yourself.

    • Mrschwols

      It seems to me that Mayor Bloomberg could prove his religious tolerence more by helping to FUND a Mosque in a NY neighborhood that doesn't already have 20 mosques.

  • Noway2no

    The constitution is not a sucide pact! To stop the enemies of the republic from creating a rallying point is exactly the kind of right reserved to the “states or the people, respectively”.

    • D-Vega

      And the state and people of New York have made their decision.

      • StanW

        And the peace-loving New Yorkers that don't want this monstrosity there, that are repulsed that Muslims can get a mosque built in record time whirl Christians churches are fighting the city to rebuild? What about them, Vega?

        Oh, that's right, even if they are in the majority, they don't matter, because they disagree with you.

      • tblrk2006

        No they didnt. The liberals in power did. The same way you purchased votes to get obama and co crap passed.

        • Christopher_Taylor

          Yeah, if you can believe polls, the greater majority of New Yorkers actually oppose this building. They never got a chance to vote on it.

          • D-Vega

            You want a referendum on any house of worship being built, or just the muslim ones?

          • Mrschwols

            Yes, just like every community in America does. Every day. It's called a zoning commision and yes it tells Christian, Jewish, Buddist, Churches that there building is too large, too close, too much parking, and a thousand other things. It IS appropriate for a local community to regulate the use of property. If NYer's think that this street will become impassable for the constant throng of protestors in fromt of the Mosque, then perhaps the Zoning Commision, should take that into account.

      • Christopher_Taylor

        Does that make it right, or wise, or proper? What an asinine argument.

  • Toastrider

    Let's turn it around.

    Would it be respectful to build an Oppenheimer Building in Hiroshima, Japan?

    Hell, no. It'd be insulting and offensive.

    Look at what they're calling it: the Cordoba House. That's not a coincidence, folks. That's a blatant slap.

    The majority of New Yorkers are saying 'no', while Mayor Bloomberg, fresh off his latest attempt to ban all forms of personal self-defense, pisses all over the memory of what happened nine years ago.

    This is going to end badly, mark my words. They may get it built, but they may not enjoy it for long.

    • Mahatma

      Oppenheimer Building *

      * Not a house of worship.

      • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

        Not relevant, this is a community center with worship space, ask Vega.

  • forager

    building a mosque at groud zero would be akin to building a wal-mart on a native american burial ground. quit with the double standards, and stop generalizing about muslims; just remember all the massacres done in the name of christianity. a mosque should be built at ground zero to serve as a permanent reminder to americans to stop being ignorant hypocrites.

    • http://www.patriotpost.com bthewolf

      I'll stick to facts, thanks. Islam preaches death to non-believers, tells muslims it's ok to lie to infidels, and commits massacres everyday. Islam history of violence has not changed in 1400 years.

      Christian massacres haven't been sancioned by any church since the middle ages.

      Why don't you stop being an ignorant tool?

      • Mediumheadboy

        Not ignorant. Stupid. There's a big difference.

    • Christopher_Taylor

      OK lets say that's equivalent (it isn't, even if the Indians were massacred by white people, due to cultural differences, but let's play along). Would you support Wal*Mart building that structure in that place?

      Yeah. I thought not.

    • StanW

      All of the Christian massacres? Care to enlightening us. My bet is that you have to go back a few centuries to find them.

  • Mazen

    Hey, you gun nuts ever wonder what was before that second amendment you like so much.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    Damn those constitutional amendments and the freedom they give.

    • Christopher_Taylor

      Not a single person is arguing that they should not have the RIGHT to build a building there, only that it is indecent, triumphalistic, and filled with mockery for the victims of the terrorist attack on 9/11 to do so, and thus, the community of New York should oppose that construction. Its like the Klan building a permanent burning cross monument five feet from Martin Luther King jr's grave, and calling it a tribute to racial tolerance and reaching out between different faiths.

      Just because someone is free to do something does not mean they ought to or it is right to do so.

    • Julius Henry

      Zoning commisions ALL over the Country pass rules and regulations restricting the building of Churches, additions to churches, and regulate the use of land in general to meet the needs of the community. The 2nd amendment applies to the FEDERAL government, not state or local. Local communitees, (through zoning commisions) often decide that a mega church should be 3 blocks further down the road or have a shorter steeple. Since almost 2/3 of the local community (New Yorkers) oppose the ground Zero mosque it would be appropriate to move it.

  • joe six-pack

    It will NOT be a mosque. It will be an embassy.

    Islam has a foreign policy, an economic policy and a legal system with jurisprudence that goes back 1400 years. Islam is fielding an army to defend its 'waters' and 'Muslim lands'. The Pope cannot enforce the Catholic Church's rule against abortion. Yet Islam CAN enfoce it's own laws, as it is doing all over the world today.

    The reason that we have professional armies is to prevent and end this B.S.

  • MrSchwols

    I ask what is the purpose of this Mosque?
    If it is to bridge a gap between Mulsims and Americans, will it accomplish this goal? No it seems to be driving a wedge between us.
    If it is to show us that Islam is a reasonable religion, does it accomplish this goal? No it seems to show us that you, once again, can't be reasoned with.
    So once again what is the goal of this Mosque?

    • Julius Henry

      I have asked a similiar question to Mosque supports on facebook…it is never answered.

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