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Geithner’s Spin: Auto Bailout A Success
Written By : Warner Todd Huston

At the Detroit Economic Club today, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner tried to claim the auto bailout is a success.

It certainly doesn’t seem like a success for the taxpayers. GM stock is about $30 today, and unless it gets up to $54, the taxpayers lose money on the deal. Why would it go up? You want to fight high gas prices by buying a Volt? How does $41 grand a pop sound? And still GM loses money on every one it sells even at that price. Not only that but we are seeing that government subsides for electric cars is good tax money wasted in any case.

It doesn’t get any better. Worldwide, U.S. cars aren’t selling worth beans and domestically, GM is lagging because people who hate the bailouts won’t support it with their car-buying dollars any more than they did with their votes last year when they kicked out every incumbent they could find who’d been for it. And GM still has all its old problems, too, like those big fat union pension obligations. Sadly, nothing that caused GM’s financial trouble has been fixed.

But the spin continues. Last December, Geithner said the auto bailouts were “investments,” which “will show a positive return, not a negative return.”

As the 2010 midterms proved, the people know better. They know government can’t run an automobile company and they know the deal was mostly political payback to the UAW, the biggest culprit in why GM and Chrysler were in trouble in the first place — not that company execs did themselves proud, either.

People didn’t believe Geithner when he said we’d make money on the deal, and they were right. Today’s speech was more of the same, and it still won’t fly.

Geithner, Obama and the rest of the gang that brought us this monstrosity may or may not actually still think they kept the economy from chaos by the bailout, but they’re just believing their own scare tactics if they do.

As George Mason University Professor Todd Zywicki pointed out in depth, a normal bankruptcy would have worked just as well. Sorry, Timmy. Your spinning wheel is getting us nowhere.

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  • Anonymous

    I bet you don’t think too much of the $trillion+ investment in Iraq either.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      1 Trilion to liberate an opressed people is a whole lot better than….

      5 TRILLION borrowed from the chinese and then BLOWN on a bunch of failed companies retard!

      Not to mention that it took 6 years to spend a Trillion in Iraq and the whitehouse clown wasted 5 Trillion in 2 years so give it a rest commie.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      1 Trilion to liberate an opressed people is a whole lot better than….

      5 TRILLION borrowed from the chinese and then BLOWN on a bunch of failed companies retard!

      Not to mention that it took 6 years to spend a Trillion in Iraq and the whitehouse clown wasted 5 Trillion in 2 years so give it a rest commie.

      • Anonymous

        The projected budget for FY-2009 was nearly $one trillion when Obama was sworn into office in Jan 2009, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were only funded thru March 2009. Bush considered a stimulus in his last yr, but he decided to leave the stimulus up to the next president. By the way, what part of Obama’s 2009 stimulus didn’t you like? One third of his stimulus was tax cuts, mainly for small businesses. Didn’t the FOX news talking heads inform you of that FACT! Here is a description of his proposed tax cut, which was passed as part of the Obama stimulus:

        http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111279694652423.html

        Yup, I know, the wsj is a manipulative commie newspaper, now owned by FOX news. I guess non of those tax cuts trickled down to you.

        PS, Ms. Hart, didn’t you complain about my using “astronomy” to prove a point about the “greenhouse effect” and global warming? I guess you were referring to my liberal references to Carl Sagan’s last book. Carl Sagan was an astrophysicist and cosmologist. Many climate research scientists have the same backround. In fact, two of the most prominent and most quoted (by the conservatives), anti-global warming scientists are Sally Baliunas and Willie Soon. Both are Harvard astronomers astrophysicists. Baliunas and Soon don’t even deny global warming. They just don’t think the warming is causedby solar variability and not by CO2. You can find their 2003 paper on the web.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

          The projected budget for FY-2009 was nearly $one trillion when Obama was sworn into office in Jan 2009,

          1 Trillion when the idiot came into office……

          4 Trillion with HIS current 2011 budget….

          THAT would be a difference of THREE trillion more you moron…..

          And yes I did laugh at your idiotic attempt to use astronomy to prop up your globull warming cult!!

          No Co2 = No plants

          No Plants = No oxegen

          No oxegen = NO People

          No People = No Co2

          I dont need astonomy to tell me something that simple commie.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

          The projected budget for FY-2009 was nearly $one trillion when Obama was sworn into office in Jan 2009,

          1 Trillion when the idiot came into office……

          4 Trillion with HIS current 2011 budget….

          THAT would be a difference of THREE trillion more you moron…..

          And yes I did laugh at your idiotic attempt to use astronomy to prop up your globull warming cult!!

          No Co2 = No plants

          No Plants = No oxegen

          No oxegen = NO People

          No People = No Co2

          I dont need astonomy to tell me something that simple commie.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

          The projected budget for FY-2009 was nearly $one trillion when Obama was sworn into office in Jan 2009,

          1 Trillion when the idiot came into office……

          4 Trillion with HIS current 2011 budget….

          THAT would be a difference of THREE trillion more you moron…..

          And yes I did laugh at your idiotic attempt to use astronomy to prop up your globull warming cult!!

          No Co2 = No plants

          No Plants = No oxegen

          No oxegen = NO People

          No People = No Co2

          I dont need astonomy to tell me something that simple commie.

        • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

          Tax rebates are not cuts, and the bulk of the stimulus was giveaways on leftist dream plans like green energy. You guys seem incapable of understanding we have a memory and know what was done and how.

      • Anonymous

        The projected budget for FY-2009 was nearly $one trillion when Obama was sworn into office in Jan 2009, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were only funded thru March 2009. Bush considered a stimulus in his last yr, but he decided to leave the stimulus up to the next president. By the way, what part of Obama’s 2009 stimulus didn’t you like? One third of his stimulus was tax cuts, mainly for small businesses. Didn’t the FOX news talking heads inform you of that FACT! Here is a description of his proposed tax cut, which was passed as part of the Obama stimulus:

        http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111279694652423.html

        Yup, I know, the wsj is a manipulative commie newspaper, now owned by FOX news. I guess non of those tax cuts trickled down to you.

        PS, Ms. Hart, didn’t you complain about my using “astronomy” to prove a point about the “greenhouse effect” and global warming? I guess you were referring to my liberal references to Carl Sagan’s last book. Carl Sagan was an astrophysicist and cosmologist. Many climate research scientists have the same backround. In fact, two of the most prominent and most quoted (by the conservatives), anti-global warming scientists are Sally Baliunas and Willie Soon. Both are Harvard astronomers astrophysicists. Baliunas and Soon don’t even deny global warming. They just don’t think the warming is causedby solar variability and not by CO2. You can find their 2003 paper on the web.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      1 Trilion to liberate an opressed people is a whole lot better than….

      5 TRILLION borrowed from the chinese and then BLOWN on a bunch of failed companies retard!

      Not to mention that it took 6 years to spend a Trillion in Iraq and the whitehouse clown wasted 5 Trillion in 2 years so give it a rest commie.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      1 Trilion to liberate an opressed people is a whole lot better than….

      5 TRILLION borrowed from the chinese and then BLOWN on a bunch of failed companies retard!

      Not to mention that it took 6 years to spend a Trillion in Iraq and the whitehouse clown wasted 5 Trillion in 2 years so give it a rest commie.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      1 Trilion to liberate an opressed people is a whole lot better than….

      5 TRILLION borrowed from the chinese and then BLOWN on a bunch of failed companies retard!

      Not to mention that it took 6 years to spend a Trillion in Iraq and the whitehouse clown wasted 5 Trillion in 2 years so give it a rest commie.

  • Anonymous

    How about a little truth for a change:

    Geithner: Auto bailout will lose money, but save jobs

    “For the first time, Geithner directly acknowledged that the U.S. government will lose money on the auto bailout, but he was sure to explain that the Obama administration’s intent was never to maximize profits, but to save jobs, as explained in a Detroit Free Press report.

    Geithner even went as far as to admit what most already knew, adding, “We’re not a private investor. Our job is to protect the country,” when referring to the expected financial losses and jobs saved.”

    http://www.leftlanenews.com/geithner-auto-bailout-will-lose-billions-but-save-jobs.html

  • Anonymous

    How about a little truth for a change:

    Geithner: Auto bailout will lose money, but save jobs

    “For the first time, Geithner directly acknowledged that the U.S. government will lose money on the auto bailout, but he was sure to explain that the Obama administration’s intent was never to maximize profits, but to save jobs, as explained in a Detroit Free Press report.

    Geithner even went as far as to admit what most already knew, adding, “We’re not a private investor. Our job is to protect the country,” when referring to the expected financial losses and jobs saved.”

    http://www.leftlanenews.com/geithner-auto-bailout-will-lose-billions-but-save-jobs.html

  • Anonymous

    How about a little truth for a change:

    Geithner: Auto bailout will lose money, but save jobs

    “For the first time, Geithner directly acknowledged that the U.S. government will lose money on the auto bailout, but he was sure to explain that the Obama administration’s intent was never to maximize profits, but to save jobs, as explained in a Detroit Free Press report.

    Geithner even went as far as to admit what most already knew, adding, “We’re not a private investor. Our job is to protect the country,” when referring to the expected financial losses and jobs saved.”

    http://www.leftlanenews.com/geithner-auto-bailout-will-lose-billions-but-save-jobs.html

    • StanW

      Because we are all interested in what a TAX CHEAT has to say about financial matters.

      Piss on Geithner!

    • StanW

      Because we are all interested in what a TAX CHEAT has to say about financial matters.

      Piss on Geithner!

  • http://www.vega.com Vega – The Smart, Sexy Liberal

    It was a success. I know no one here can admit it, because it would do serious damage to your ideology. But the facts are facts. Sorry.

    • StanW

      Coming from a poster than can never admit they were wrong once you have taken a position, that is hilarious.

      Vega, you are a tool!

    • Anonymous

      By what standard?

      Ford did just fine without the bailout and GM is only scrapping by because their biggest competitor (toyota) has had a bit of an issue lately.

      So unless you believe Obama created the earthquake/typhoon that has devastated our japanese competition then he really doesn’t get credit for this.

      • http://www.vega.com Vega – The Smart, Sexy Liberal

        GM isn’t “scrapping by”, that’s a myth.

        • Anonymous

          At some point you’re going to have to assign numbers to these claims.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

      Sure thing clueless….

      Buy @ $54.00 then sell @ 30.00 therby losing $24.00 on every share, that’s “success” for a dumb commie like you and odumbo.

      • http://www.vega.com Vega – The Smart, Sexy Liberal

        Your info is all wrong, as usual.

      • http://www.vega.com Vega – The Smart, Sexy Liberal

        Your info is all wrong, as usual.

    • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

      I know you really really want it to have been successful, but it wasn’t. When GM needs another bailout in a few years, you will swear up and down that the first one worked, too, I bet.

    • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

      I know you really really want it to have been successful, but it wasn’t. When GM needs another bailout in a few years, you will swear up and down that the first one worked, too, I bet.

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  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    I’ll trust Tim Geithner’s judgement on economic issues when he learns how to pay his own damn taxes.

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