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We Need To Stop Glorifying Single Mothers
Written By : John Hawkins

So yesterday, I tweeted this, “Single mothers shouldn’t be vilified, but they shouldn’t be glorified either. They’re people who made bad life choices.” Naturally, I was deluged with comments from angry single mothers and a few single dads, too. You see, we have an unwritten rule in this country that says, “Single mothers have it hard so no matter what people really think, they can’t ever speak a negative word about them.” When people get that oversensitive about a topic, it’s a good bet that there’s a lot of uncomfortable truth that people are thinking, but aren’t willing to say out loud. When I run across a topic like that, I love to talk about it because I’ve already heard every insult in the book five times over, so all the wailing and gnashing of teeth isn’t going to do anything except produce more great pieces of hate mail that I can read to my friends for their amusement.

All of that being said, even though that Tweet was largely correct, it was also a LITTLE too broad and generalized. That’s how it goes on Twitter, where you only have 140 characters to work with. On there, you can’t throw in dozens of caveats about widows, women who were raped, people whose husbands unexpectedly started using heroin one day and turned into junkies, or the other assorted exceptions to the rule. So, let’s get that out of the way: This does not apply to every single mother. Not EVERY single mother got that way via bad life choices.

Now, let’s get down to it. First off, as I noted, “Single mothers shouldn’t be vilified, but they shouldn’t be glorified either.” Let me just add to that: I do not think, in any way, shape, or form, that single moms are bad moms. To the contrary, judging by the single moms I know, they actually work harder to try to take care of their kids than most moms do in two parent families. Granted, that’s not because they’re better people; it’s because parenting is a two person job and they’re trying to fill both roles all by their lonesome. It’s extremely tough for them to do that, which I think most single moms would acknowledge. Single mothers tend to struggle more financially and they do miss having a dad around to help with the kids, bring in more money, help soothe their frayed nerves, give second opinions, be a rock, and do all the things that men do to help make a happy home.

Of course, single dads have it tough, too, but as a society, we put single moms up on a pedestal and we don’t do the same for single dads. The courts always give the mom preference over the dad, TV shows lionize single moms, but rarely single dads, and we generally treat moms like they’re the better parent by default. So even though single dads who take care of their kids are as important as single moms and care just as much for their children, they’re not looked at the same way as single moms. So, since single moms are much more common and are treated differently, they’re the ones we should focus on.

The problem we have in dealing with single moms in this country is like that old story about the man fishing by the side of the river. Suddenly, the man sees someone in the water, being swept away by the current. He dives in and manages to drag the person to safety. Then, just as he gets out of the water, he sees 2 more coming; so he jumps back in the water and with heroic effort, he saves them both. Unfortunately, this keeps going all day long, the man is saving some people and others are drowning, and eventually he gets exhausted. So, he decides that he just can’t do any more and he goes home. As he gets up the road about half a mile, he finds that the bridge has been out and that people have been falling in the water there all day long. So, he blocks off the bridge and nobody else falls in.

Because most of us know single mothers, know how hard they’re working, and wish them well, we do what we can to support them and build them up. That’s very understandable and it undoubtedly does some good. However, because we’re constantly talking about how wonderful single mothers are, we’re also making the option look a lot less scary than it should be to young girls — and that’s a very bad thing for them and for society.

The fact of the matter is, no matter how much a single mother loves her child or how diligent she tries to be, it’s unlikely that she’ll be able to do as good a job of raising her child as a mother and father could have done in her place. People hate to hear that, but it’s true. Incidentally, this isn’t me just talking off the top of my head. Statistics bear this out and show that many of the problems we have in our society, when you look a little deeper, are really caused by the number of out-of-wedlock births we have in this country,

From the FBI: 63 percent of all suicides are individuals from single-parent households. From the Centers for Disease Control: 75 percent of adolescents in chemical-dependency hospitals come from single-parent households. From the Children’s Defense Fund: more than half of all youths incarcerated for criminal acts come from single-parent households.

Here’s more from Ann Coulter (Much more here)

As I describe in my new book, “Guilty: Liberal ‘Victims’ and Their Assault on America,” controlling for socioeconomic status, race and place of residence, the strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison is that he was raised by a single parent. (The second strongest factor is owning a Dennis Kucinich bumper sticker.)

By 1996, 70 percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. Seventy percent of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents and child murderers involve children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced.

Again, as I noted, it’s important not to vilify single mothers. Those devastating statistics are not a result of their being bad people or not loving their children; those numbers are a result of the situation that they’re in.

Having kids outside of wedlock creates a lot of poverty for women, it leads to some of them having to leech off of their fellow citizens with government programs, and it’s really bad for their kids. So, if you’re a single woman and you get pregnant, what are your choices? You can kill your own baby with an abortion or you can have all those negatives come into your life along with a child. Choosing to have the child is the right choice and children do bring a lot of joy into people’s lives, but young girls need to be aware that they will be far better off if they don’t get pregnant outside of wedlock in the first place.

Superficially, we send this message. The problem is that it’s a mixed message. They may hear, “Don’t get pregnant” in school or church, but Hollywood promotes promiscuity at every turn, talks about single mothers like they’re saints, and our government financially rewards people for having children out of wedlock. You may say that the amount we pay out for welfare and food stamps is so small that it shouldn’t be an incentive, but you can directly trace the explosion of illegitimacy in this country back to the decision to allow unmarried mothers to collect welfare.

So, maybe instead of doing everything we can to make single motherhood easier, we should focus on doing a lot more to discourage single motherhood. Maybe Hollywood could start to regularly show the consequences of sexual promiscuity (Bond. James Bond…and I guess I should probably mention I have herpes before this goes any further). Maybe liberal feminists could stop talking about how great it is to have “sex like a man” while they get angry about “slut shaming.” Maybe they could admit that “slut shaming” is good for everybody concerned, including the slut, because it might lead to her ceasing to act like a slut. Getting rid of no fault divorce would also be very helpful and so would disallowing welfare and food stamps for kids born outside of wedlock, although it would be very difficult to put those Genies back in the bottle. It’s also a shame that there’s no “shame” associated with being a single mother anymore. We were better off as a country when it was considered to be disgraceful for a woman to get pregnant outside of marriage.

Does all of that sound horrible? You may think so — but, how horrible is it balanced against the suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents, high school dropouts, poverty and drug addiction created by having so many single women who are trying to raise a child without a father?

At the end of the day, this isn’t about blaming people, shaming people, or pointing a finger. It’s about trying to help as many people as possible live a better life. Yes, it’s better to become a single mother than to abort the baby and, yes, a child is a wonderful thing, but how many parents are hoping their child gets pregnant at 17? Most people wouldn’t wish that on their worst enemy. We need to do a better job of communicating that, we need to stop promoting single motherhood like it’s the most wonderful thing in the world, and we need to start talking more realistically and openly about what we can do to discourage single motherhood as a society.

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  • Ilikemonkeysya

    Is someone doing damage control?

    Also you condemn Hollywood for its promotion of promiscuity, yet you post the Annual Florida Bikini Booty Shaking Contest. Irony?

    • Anonymous

      I suspect it’s about site hits – not principle.

      • Oh you!

        Lets compromise our “Conservative Morality and Values” for site hits!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jayhoffer Justin Hoffer

      If morality is how we want the world to work, economics is how it actually works. I stole that from economist Steve Levitt, I highly recommend him. Evidentially, the money earned from making that post is worth more than John’s principles. Contrary to what many would like to believe, every single one of your principles has a dollar value.

      • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

        Economics and Morality are two separate issues. Morality is how we should behave, economics is merely how we earn money. That’s like comparing apples and… asteroids.

    • Anonymous

      Promiscuity and titillation are different animals. Hollywood once drew the line at tittilation but now things are different.

      Now if Hollywood reflects the values of the culture or leads the charge is another question altogether but that’s another topic.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. And when a single mother tries to do that, we get these Hollywood folks calling for a boycott on twitter. It’s not about glorifying being a single mother, it’s about telling teens…hey, this is difficult, it’s not glorious and it’s surely not easy. It’s the same with the ex-drug addict going to the schools and talking about the dangers of drugs. Are they glorifying the drug usage? No. They are attempting to dissuade students from that destructive behavior. Yes, we need not glorify being a single mother, but, who better to tell the story of the difficulties of being a single parent than….a single mother.

    • Anonymous

      There are rich single mothers and poor single mothers and one might have no problems while the other is simply making life a lot more difficult. I doubt the poor are watching Murphy Brown in the first place so the idea of promoting single motherhood seems a bit off-track to me although I agree with the original premise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shawn-Boyett/100001238012899 Shawn Boyett

    Babies don’t create themselves.

  • http://theatleeappeal.com/ David Atlee

    I wrote a similar article on my site the other day in reference to a couple similar articles – most notably one from The Florida Times Union which basically treated the single mother in the story as a warrior. Problem: She had something around 5 kids – no mention of how many of those kids were from different dads – and she was dirt poor. Just another typical sob story in which the person highlighted is in their particular situation by no fault but their own. I have no sympathy for single mothers who don’t know how to stop puking out kids when they can’t even afford food for themselves.

    theatleeappeal.com

    • Anonymous

      How about all those shows with families with a dozen kids. Crap, even a married couple is going to be overwhelmed by that. These are not life choices that folks should even consider.

      When society stopped mocking people that made stupid choices and said all choices were equal we doomed a large number of people.

  • Anonymous

    Look single motherhood and the breakup of the family are core communist party goals to corrupt the USA from within. How dare you try to interfere with the scoialist tsunami hitting America.

  • conservativeminority

    Caring too much Mr Hawkins. I applaud you for taking a compassionate conservative approach but in the end, is all about the morals and values we are taught by our parents. Hollywood is not there when the cute boy you like doesn’t like you back, family is.

    But in reference to your story, I know someone who abuses the system. All kids from different dads, I ain’t lying. A good friend whom I knew a long time. A nice girl but no secret, she’s dumb. She never worked in her life. And this is where your article comes into play: She’s the only parent. Let alone raising one child with one parent, imagine four from different dads. Insane! But that’s life in some instances. You become young and have socio-ecocomic problems either for not having a dad or mother. So what do you do? You do things that dissemble your own theorem of life. You start living the opposite of what’s necessary to achieve a higher opportune for an individual.

    My mother dislikes the “social generation” because it encourages kids to become dependent and attached. And is true. T.V now idolizes popularity and loveliness, Hollywood cool and hip, friends style and fashion, etc. And no secret, that’s very bad. Everywhere you see is materialized. Name me one thing on TV that’s morally healthy? And no, no, I’m not talking about Obama’s kids book.

    The truth is family is the core of developing a long-lasting mental state of health. Religion and communities come together as a collective unit to stay attached with one another. That’s religion. In the end, parents teach us to be more self-regulated in order to distinguish from right and wrong. Is how we can interact with our civil society and make us better as a family but most importantly, for our children.

    As a child, I hated my dad taking me to his job and did blue-collar work but he taught me about hard work. Is the future baby, I said to myself. Blue-collar work is dead. I actually said that 15+ years ago. And look at me now, if it wasn’t for him showing me, I wouldn’t understand the meaning of reward and punishment. And my parents were strict. My mom had me reading the Bible. And I would say I’m a good person but for others, I can’t speak for them but I can say this: Not all morals are created equal.

  • Anonymous

    What does it say about where we as a society are going when saying getting knocked up without a father for the baby is a bad thing somehow warrants catching flack?

    • Anonymous

      Moreover, what does it say about our society that merely failing to praise single mothers is itself considered disrespectful or insulting?

      • StanW

        Because, to Leftists, tolerance is not enough. It has to be acceptance and praise. They never seem to stop at merely having their views tolerated.

  • Don_cos

    more great pieces of hate mail that I can read to my friends for their amusement.

    Don’t forget us. We enjoy reading them also.

    • Spikey

      Yep

  • http://conservativebootcamp.com Martin Hale

    On this topic, for me it’s very much about the ‘why’ of having so many single parents. What’s happened in the past fifty years that so many people seemingly have lost the ability to establish, nurture and maintain adult relationships which in their turn provide the support for raising children? A few of the “usual suspects” always turn up in any discussion of the subject – availability of easy divorce, rise of feminism, complexity and pace of modern life, poverty, changing sexual mores, decline in morality, reduced importance of religion, fragmentation of communities, impersonalisation of life due to technology, etc.

    Personally, I think it’s global warming, the Tea Party, big corporations, George Bush and Sarah Palin which have caused it.

    /sarc

    Seriously though, it’s something that we collectively better fix if we hope to survive as a society which carries traditional American values forward.

  • Cary

    I agree with everything that you’ve said here. The one thing that I would add is that we also need to be encouraging single women to give their children up for adoption – for the benefit of the child. I speak as one who was born to a divorced single mother in 1967 and adopted into a two parent family who was not able to have their own child. This was undoubtedly a great sacrifice by my biological mother, but I have no doubt that I am better off today for it.

    Post Roe, there is a good chance that I wouldn’t even be born today, though we are gradually making progress on the life issue. But we also need to hold up the two parent family as the ideal. I realize that this will not always be possible, but it should be seen as preferable when possible.

  • Gayunemployedmexican

    This might be true but it’s not really a fair comparison. Most single mothers are probably disproportionately poor or minority. Given that statistically most black children will at some point in their life end up in prison, and that number goes higher up if they are poor, we have to ask which variable is doing the work. Coulter needs to control for racial status and money and then get back to us with the statistics. Are the children of middle class white single moms also much more likely to go to prison?

    • Anonymous

      “Given that statistically most black children will at some point in their life end up in prison”

      And where is this statistic? I want to know where you got your numbers.

      • Leghound69

        Maybe the Data showing 70% of Ghetto dwellers have a jail record before their 18th birthday.If all the fine Christians could have Bastard Grandchildren and a daughter making serious money giving speechs of Don’t do like I did and get rich,YOU keep your panties on!the problem would go away.

      • Leghound69

        Maybe the Data showing 70% of Ghetto dwellers have a jail record before their 18th birthday.If all the fine Christians could have Bastard Grandchildren and a daughter making serious money giving speechs of Don’t do like I did and get rich,YOU keep your panties on!the problem would go away.

  • Gospace

    One minor nitpcik- widows are not single mothers. Aid for Families with Dependent Children used to be known as Aid to Widows and Orphans. Used to be that an unwed mother couldn’t get any kind of public charity. In the late 50′s or early 60′s the government decied that single mothers were the same as widows. That’s when the explosion of unwed motherhood started.

  • Anonymous

    If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. – Ronald Reagan

    The simplest of economics. Artificially lower the price of an activity, and you’ll get more of it. We subsidize single parenthood, so we get more of it.

    There’s also a reason why high-level “feminists” support promiscuous sex and the teaching of faulty birth control methods while at the same time declaring pregnancy to be the most horrible thing that can happen to a young woman. They know that once a woman walks through the doors of an abortion clinic, they’re likely a liberal for life.

  • Anonymous

    Shunning worked well in the past. It will still work. Is it cruel? Yes, absolutely. When I was a child a girl who became pregnant out of wedlock was shunned. To be truthful the guy was not shunned but was considered a “low life”. What were the results? Guys and girls were scared to have a child out of wedlock. The amount of illegitimate children was drastically less than now. It was much less a burden on our society.

  • Anonymous

    Shunning worked well in the past. It will still work. Is it cruel? Yes, absolutely. When I was a child a girl who became pregnant out of wedlock was shunned. To be truthful the guy was not shunned but was considered a “low life”. What were the results? Guys and girls were scared to have a child out of wedlock. The amount of illegitimate children was drastically less than now. It was much less a burden on our society.

  • Oh you!

    You make so many generalization fallacies in your posts. That totally invalidates your arguement.

    On a seperate note, does anyone know the amount of education Mr. Hawkins has? Im assuming not much other than a highschool degree or he would state somewhere about any other education he has had.

    • Anonymous

      Flagged for personal attacks.

      • Ilikemonkeysya

        Those aren’t personal attacks? i am pointing out fallacies? And that was an honest question, not an attack?

        • StanW

          You are denegrating the edutation of a person you do not know, because he hasn’t posted his credentials?

          Well, you have not posted yours either. Therefore, you are a nerdy 6th grader who gets beat up by the girls in your class, and then wets your pants and runs away crying about it.

          But that isn’t a personal attack!

          • Oh you!

            See i didn’t go as far as to say that. I just said i assumed he had a highschool degree. I still would like to know his education.

          • StanW

            Then ask instead of assuming.

            Oh, and stick to one posting name.

          • Anonymous

            You assumed based on the false premise that anyone with a college education would go around promoting it. Therefore, you were denigrating him personally by implying he is uneducated.

          • Anonymous

            You assumed based on the false premise that anyone with a college education would go around promoting it. Therefore, you were denigrating him personally by implying he is uneducated.

          • Anonymous

            You assumed based on the false premise that anyone with a college education would go around promoting it. Therefore, you were denigrating him personally by implying he is uneducated.

          • Oh you!

            Also flagged for personal attacks ;)

          • StanW

            I said it wasn’t a personal attack. I used the exact same logic that you did.

            So are you admitting that yours was a personal attack, or are you admitting to being a pathetic liar?

            I’m thinking, “All of the above”!

          • Oh you!

            See there were no negative implications with my post. Yours on the other hand… thats a different story.
            How is having a GED a bad thing?

            Also way to resort to ad hominem.

          • StanW

            Seriously? You think it is fine to denegrate someone, but when the exact same thing is done to you, it is an attack?

            That is pathetic and hypocritical.

          • StanW

            Seriously? You think it is fine to denegrate someone, but when the exact same thing is done to you, it is an attack?

            That is pathetic and hypocritical.

          • Anonymous

            Do you have any idea how childish you sound when you play the “you big ol’ meanie! You flagged me? Well…well…how about i flag you??!!!” game?

            You people are pathetic.

            TR

          • StanW

            And the really funny part is, I never flagged him. I rarely use the flag option any more. I prefer to let the idiocy of Liberals stand and be ridiculed.

          • Oh you!

            I didn’t denegrate him. Its common to ask of someones cualifications when you are supposed to trust there opinion. Also i love how i am getting flagged so much, yet no one is responding to my argument about his fallicies.

          • Oh you!

            Well was he not making personal attacks on me? Is that not reason for flagging? i can disagree with the reason they flagged me for and so can he.

          • Anonymous

            Also i love how i am getting flagged so much, yet no one is responding to my argument about his fallicies.

            What are we supposed to respond to? At no point did you even attempt to prove your “argument”. You merely stated it and acted like it was already magically proven.

          • Anonymous

            Also i love how i am getting flagged so much, yet no one is responding to my argument about his fallicies.

            What are we supposed to respond to? At no point did you even attempt to prove your “argument”. You merely stated it and acted like it was already magically proven.

    • Anonymous

      Flagged for trolling, and sock puppet posting.

      Pick a screen name and stick to it…otherwise you look like a troll. Sock puppet posting is generally (with good reason) considered to be prima facia edivence of troll status.

      TR

      • Oh you!

        Sorry i honestly don’t know how this name thing works. Not trolling though

    • DrEvil

      Education level is irrelevant to the argument. I have know Phds who were morons. And I have know people who barely graduated High School who were brilliant. You are just looking for an excuse to dismise his claims without actually discussing the substance of the claims.

      Have an Evil day

      • Oh you!

        No… i just wanted to know out of curiosity, see i disproved his argument with my first statement.

        • Anonymous

          Actually no, you didn’t. All you did was say that his argument was disproved. You didn’t bother to actually disprove it.

          That’s called an “ad lapidem” fallacy, by the way.

    • DrEvil

      Education level is irrelevant to the argument. I have know Phds who were morons. And I have know people who barely graduated High School who were brilliant. You are just looking for an excuse to dismise his claims without actually discussing the substance of the claims.

      Have an Evil day

    • Anonymous

      You make so many generalization fallacies in your posts.

      No he doesn’t. You can’t just state it and make it true.

      That totally invalidates your arguement.

      Again, wrong. An argument comes in three parts: premise, logic, and conclusion. Even if John’s logic was faulty (which it wasn’t) it doesn’t automatically invalidate his premise or his conclusion, or the argument as a whole.

      If I tried to argue that people shouldn’t do drugs by saying “I will hurt you if you do drugs” does that invalidate the argument that people shouldn’t do drugs? Of course not.

      On a seperate note, does anyone know the amount of education Mr. Hawkins has? Im assuming not much other than a highschool degree or he would state somewhere about any other education he has had.

      Sorry, what? Exactly how does the fact that he doesn’t pompously state his education level in every other post indicate that his education is limited? Furthermore, even if his education was limited, why would it matter in the least? More education doesn’t magically make you more right.

      Weren’t you just now accusing John of engaging in logical fallacies?

  • Oh you!

    Okay what level of education does Mr. Hawkins have?

    • Anonymous

      And that is relevant how?

      • StanW

        It is justification for his previous attack on Mr. Hawkins, and it is a diversion to allow him to keep from discussing the topic at hand.

        • Oh you!

          It was originaly a side note. No one responded to my comment on the actual article, just made a big deal out of that question.

          • StanW

            Because it was a moronic question that had NOTHING to do with the article.

            Perhaps you should let ot go and move on, child!

          • Oh you!

            So its moronic to ask someones qualifications/education level on a topic they are speaking on? You just proved who the sheep are.
            Wow… and im the child.

          • StanW

            Let’s review what you wrote, shall we…
            …does anyone know the amount of education Mr. Hawkins has? Im assuming not much other than a highschool degree…

            You weren’t asking for qualifications, CHILD. You were denegrating Mr. Hawkins for not being educated enough for you.

            Ask BEFORE assuming.

          • Anonymous

            So its moronic to ask someones qualifications/education level on a topic they are speaking on?

            Yes, it is. Haven’t you ever heard of the appeal to authority fallacy?

          • Oh you!

            So lets say he had a degree in political science thus QUALIFYING him to be trusted speaker.
            And AGAIN what is wrong with a GED? You seem to be the one denigrating.

          • StanW

            YOU are the one that said Highschool. You never mentioned GED so stop trying to divert the discussion.

            You assumed instead of asking. You made a mistake and got called on it. Now you are whining about it.

            I can see why you switched names before. All the credibility of this one has been used up. Time to move on CHILD!

          • Oh you!

            Yes the GED thing sorry about that, it was a moment of confusion. But still I ask and i still get attacked by you? I did not make mistakes in my last post. I pointed out fallacies in both you and the articles arguments. Now it is really sad if you follow mr.hawkins blindly without questioning certain things, kinda seems sheep-like wouldn’t you say…
            Also i don’t see where i have changed my name?

          • StanW

            It is pointless to continue this discussion. You refuse to see what you have done, and you even compound it with your continued personal attacks; “Now it is really sad if you follow mr.hawkins blindly without questioning certain things, kinda seems sheep-like wouldn’t you say…“.

            You may now eat static!

          • Oh you!

            So i can’t make personal attacks but you can?
            And you refuse to see what you have done.
            I love it how you don’t defend following him blindly though ;)

          • DrEvil

            Hawkins has 4 Phds, 12 Masters, and 9 BAs. Does everything in his column now make perfect sense and do you agree with everyword which flowed from his golden pen? If not why not? If not then what difference does it make. A compelling argument is just as compelling regardless of who makes it unless someone is swayed by the illusion of implied authority. Just so you know, I’m not really a Dr I just play one on the internet.

            Have an Evil day

          • Oh you!

            Well first I pointed out how he does not make a compelling argument at all because it is all based off of a generalization fallacy.

          • Anonymous

            No, son, you did not do that. Stating something without proving it is not an argument. If you think John made an inappropriate generalization, prove it. Show us the generalization and explain why it is wrong. That’s how it works in a real argument.

          • Anonymous

            No, son, you did not do that. Stating something without proving it is not an argument. If you think John made an inappropriate generalization, prove it. Show us the generalization and explain why it is wrong. That’s how it works in a real argument.

          • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

            Well first I pointed out how he does not make a compelling argument at all because it is all based off of a generalization fallacy.

            If you have a specific logical problem with his argument, then address that rather than an ad hominem attack on the man himself.

          • Oh you!

            See it was a question. I geuss no one here understands what an ad hominem attack is.

          • Anonymous

            I geuss no one here understands what an ad hominem attack is.

            Actually I have a feeling you don’t know what an ad hominem attack is. You seem to think it means “calling people names” so as long as you don’t explicitly call John a name you haven’t committed an ad hominem fallacy.

            Also, you don’t seem to understand the concept of logical fallacies in general, considering you keep making them over and over again.

    • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

      See it was a question. I geuss no one here understands what an ad hominem attack is.

      If by “no one here” you mean “at my keyboard” I agree. You brought that up as an attack on Hawkins attempting to smear him rather than bring up a substantive argument in disagreement with his post. You claim it was illogical, then didn’t offer the slightest argument why, but instead brought up his education.

      That’s classic ad hominem attack. It means you have no argument.

  • http://twitter.com/cmbrannen Christopher Brannen

    Ultimately, the hate is because your pushing so hard against the lack of morality that is increasingly crippling our country. Keep doing what you do. The medicine is good for them even if they don’t like it.

  • NotALibertarian

    Actually, villification did more to prevent single motherhood than anything. Young girls who knew they would be looked down upon by their peers for being “loose” decades ago were a lot less inclined to be sexually active.

    It would be nice if the “kinder, gentler” way worked, but it is a utopian delusion. Stigmatize pre-marital sex, and there will be a lot less of it.

  • TheMartha

    Now we are supposed to stop praising motherhood. What will be next – apple pie?

    • StanW

      That is NOT what was said, nor is it the topic under discussion here.

      Must you display your idiocy everytime you post?

      • TheMartha

        It is exactly what is being discussed – an attack on motherhood. Usually (I thought) praised by conservatives. What’s next – will abortion be suggested?

        • StanW

          SINGLE mothers, you idiot, not motherhood, but a very specific subset of all mothers.

          Try to keep up!

          • TheMartha

            I don’t discriminate against mothers, stan-lee. They may be white, native, black, wealthy, poor, married or single. They can even be conservative. Mothers are the most wonderful of people. Every mother deserves the best assistance in raising a child.

          • StanW

            And no one BUT YOU is even suggesting otherwise, RealPolitik.We are talking about SINGLE mothers, not all mothers. Either join the discussion or STFU!

          • StanW

            And no one BUT YOU is even suggesting otherwise, RealPolitik.We are talking about SINGLE mothers, not all mothers. Either join the discussion or STFU!

          • TheMartha

            I don’t discriminate against mothers, stan-lee. They may be white, native, black, wealthy, poor, married or single. They can even be conservative. Mothers are the most wonderful of people. Every mother deserves the best assistance in raising a child.

          • Oh you!

            Jesus christ you love your ad hominem

          • Oh you!

            Jesus christ you love your ad hominem

          • StanW

            Either participate in the discussion or shut up!

          • TheMartha

            Yes, stan-lee does. It seems he can not fathom that an attack on motherhood is what is being discussed here. It makes not a jot of difference if a mother is single or not – the woman has had a child (usually praised by conservatives) and should be praised for raising the child. Should be encouraged to do the best she can.

          • Anonymous

            Like I said above, you don’t know what an ad hominem fallacy is.

          • Anonymous

            Like I said above, you don’t know what an ad hominem fallacy is.

          • Oh you!

            I really hope you aren’t the poster boy for the conservative party.
            Can someone explain to me how exactly being a single mother is wrong? Unless they got knocked up and it was there own fault give me a reason why they are so bad?

          • StanW

            First, single motherhood isn’t wrong, it can happen to any mother for a variety of reasons. What is wrong is women that go into it deliberately.

            The point of the article, which you are deliberately ignoring, is that single motherhood ahouls not be thought of as nobel or something to be desired.

            “I really hope you aren’t the poster boy for the conservative party.” – I guess ad hominem attacks are only bad when others do it.

          • Anonymous

            You mean you actually need someone to give you a reason why depriving a family of half its income, putting twice the burden on one parent, and cutting a child off from one of their two main role models is a bad thing?

            Really?

          • Anonymous

            You mean you actually need someone to give you a reason why depriving a family of half its income, putting twice the burden on one parent, and cutting a child off from one of their two main role models is a bad thing?

            Really?

          • bibble

            Heavy generalizations there samurai, not unlike the OP’s original tweet. I know plenty of single mothers who easily make an entire household worth of income on their own. There are also plenty who allow and encourage contact with the other role model…at least as many as there are who don’t. Can’t argue one person picks up twice the responsibility, but if you consider it a burdon, you probably shouldn’t have had a kid in the first place, single or not.

          • Tr0ll

            Lol @ liberal win

          • Anonymous

            Heavy generalizations there samurai

            You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

            I know plenty of single mothers who easily make an entire household worth of income on their own.

            Which refutes my point…how exactly? Does removing a second parent from the equation somehow not remove half the household income? Does it somehow not put all the burden for running the household on one parent?

            I know some drug users who have managed to avoid overdosing to death. I guess by your logic, that makes drug abuse okay.

      • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

        I’m pretty sure that yes, this troll cannot help but display how idiotic they are.

        • Tr0ll

          Lol @ grammar fail

    • Anonymous

      You mean we’ll all get apple pie if we stop praising single motherhood? Awesome.

  • LS

    The only thing more shameful than the man who won’t come forth and be a father to his child is the mother who thinks he’s not necessary in the first place.

  • http://www.wordaroundthenet.com Christopher Taylor

    I agree, its wrong to by default demonize single mothers (since single fathers tend to get away with just bailing on the pregnant mom, like Bristol Palin’s douchebag boyfriend). But as others have said, the social pressure of looking down on pregnant unmarried women did tend to discourage it from being so common. Treating it as a blessed event or nothing special has been pretty bad for girls and society in general.

  • Jestsay

    how can one help as many people as possible live a better life while simultaneously shaming (and blaming) a certain subset of citizenry?

    • Anonymous

      …Did you seriously just ask that question?

      Shaming people who make bad choices is exactly how we prevent others from making the same bad choices. I am honestly flabbergasted that you don’t understand that.

      • Jestsay

        ..coz its not about people its about single moms

        • Anonymous

          So, what, single moms aren’t people? What the heck are you even arguing here?

      • TR0ll

        Lol @ psychology fail

        • Anonymous

          Sorry, I don’t speak “illiterate dumbass”. You’re going to have to translate that into some sort of English.

          • Tr0ll

            Lol @ feeding the trolls

        • Anonymous

          Sorry, I don’t speak “illiterate dumbass”. You’re going to have to translate that into some sort of English.

    • Anonymous

      …Did you seriously just ask that question?

      Shaming people who make bad choices is exactly how we prevent others from making the same bad choices. I am honestly flabbergasted that you don’t understand that.

  • Howe

    Ha.
    Common conservative argument, applying their own morals to the rest of society.

    CONSERVATIVES KNOW BEST <3

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